This thing called empathy, you might have heard of it. While you were probably born a white citizen of America, there are also people who were not that lucky. And after they fled from a country where they get most likely shot for no reason (think Syria and) take a journey through all of Europe to arrive at their destination and get told that they are illegals.

It's not that, it's wasting a **** load of money on a 1900 mile wall when 40% of illegal immigrants come via airplane and Trump always evades answering how he plans on deporting 11 million people (which will cost even more money)

Build a really big catapult and launch them back over.

Okay that's totally not a waste of money. I'm down with that

We could just firebomb mexico sterile. I mean, that would stop the problem flat-out.

Thar takin' ar jabs, ar maney, and ar wimin

morals.

yall r tripping. people think its wrong morally to kick people out who are already here and make em go back to wherever they came from. thatd be ****** up but whatever happens idc

Ah yes, because breaking immigration laws is known as a moral thing to do.

They're called ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS for a reason, as in; they are occupying the US illegally without approval of the government

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idgaf about morals im down to kick them out but im saying thats why their are people who think its wrong to kick them out because it wouldn't "be right"

thank you.
"just throw out the illegals". what a short sighted and naive sentiments.
multiple difficult steps with questionable methods, tons of issues, and unpredictable repercussions.

No

yeah, kicking people out of the US would make us look bad and nonprogressive, which has been a big factor recently.

absolutely nothing. in fact people that don't think this are all retards

Nothing is wrong with stopping immigration. The problem is that people hop over the border and get knocked up as quickly as possible to make sure they get to stay here.

they don't stay here. they kick illegals out, they don't care if they have kids. This is ******* stupid

lol no they don't

LOL, yes they do. I've know of a few people who have gone through that

not where i am

here they basically forclose your house for no reason and then give to a family of illegals on welfare

you've probably heard of that happening once, and you think they do it left and right. I've known quite a bit of illegals, they can barely get jobs and afford housing. Also, i was under the belief that you needed papers to receive any sort of welfare

If the kids are born on US soil, they are granted US citizenship immediately.
Trump wants to (Rightly) change that.

what that makes no sense? so then how would other americans born here be considered american? Do I have to have american parents and be born in america to be considered a natural born citizen? Aren't presidents supposed to be natural born citizens too? If we change that rule then a lot of things will change

why wouldn't they be citizens?

If their parents are both illegals, why should their kid be granted american citizenship?
**** that, the kid should be considered a dependent of his parents, only getting citizenship if both parents have citizenship already.

what happened with all that "people should't be accounted for their ancestors errors" and what not you people are always going on about. It's not the kid's fault where they are born.

No, it's not. It's their parents' fault and they hold responsibility for the child, not the state. Allowing instant citizenship to someone born in the US just because they were born in the US is an archaic, over-simplified, heavily exploitable principle that Mexicans have evidently held nothing back in terms of actively taking advantage of, and Trump wants to change that.

It's not the kids fault, it's their parents, who shouldn't be illegally in a foreign country.
After a certain point, you have to stop worrying about semantics, they don't belong here, and if they aren't going to take a citizenship test then they can just leave.
The parents should be trying to make the best life for their kids, not using the kid to make their life easier.

citizenship test? you have to go through a ******* of stuff go be a resident first, which costs a lot of money

Are you saying it's stupid to kick them out? Or are you saying our conversation here about it is stupid?

the convo is stupid. they have been doing the **** that's pictured here for a long time

Having been more occupied with foreign issues I must've heard an anecdote that mislead me. Could you provide a citation that shows this as fact so I can read up on it/

It's considered inhumane, and since there are so many Mexicans legally living in the US, you get a lot of sympathy from them because they know how it was like trying to get the **** out of Mexico, so they get upset when they hear about people trying to come here for a better life and being kicked out. That's what it sounds like on paper usually. Problem is that a lot of illegals do cause trouble, while at the same time others stay quiet, get their papers later on, and live normal lives like it's nobodies business. While I am certainly for giving people a chance for a better life, I am definitely not for letting a massive wave of immigrants in, because that will be difficult to manage.

the problem is that while they come here for a better life they make our lives ******

They're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists and some, I assume, are good people, but I speak to border guards and they're telling us what we're getting.

Yeah, that too. I am trying to be as neutral as possible about this **** . But honestly if you come here for a better life, then great! Good for you! Live a good life here and be happy! But don't do it at other people's expense.

Far as I can see the problem might come when what determines an illegal expands or changes to suit the needs of the finger-pointer