Made that while installing Firefox.. . VIII! 'noidea/ tality, mm. You usually get what you pay for. Devs used to sell software. Now, nobody pays for software. Companies do, but consumers don't. If I'm going to pay for somethin Made that while installing Firefox VIII! 'noidea/ tality mm You usually get what you pay for Devs used to sell software Now nobody pays Companies do but consumers don't If I'm going somethin
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#5 - robuntu
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(08/14/2014) [-]
You usually get what you pay for.

Devs used to sell software. Now, nobody pays for software. Companies do, but consumers don't. If I'm going to pay for something, it's going to be a PS3 game that cost millions to make. A useful firewall utility or something - hell no.

Devs spend a lot of time writing a tool - but they realize all they are getting for their trouble is a few dollars per month. My app has 10,000 users per month, I make like $8. Not worth it.

If they bundle crapware with it, or get ads from 'less honest' places - you can make a lot more. If a user clicks on an ad, I get 0.01-0.02 cents most of the time. But if a user installs a toolbar, I'd get 0.30 to 0.40. And nobody clicks on ads anymore. A lot of people miss the toolbar.

That's why a lot of people do it. 100x the revenue is huge.
User avatar #14 to #5 - dongers
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(08/15/2014) [-]
People should start adding a donation link at the end of the instal then, so they pay what they believe the program is worth. Yes people will actually donate, a lot of people underestimate how many middle class people are on the internet who have disposable income and do nice things with it.
#24 to #14 - wagastragas
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(08/15/2014) [-]
so you could just buy the software then...
User avatar #36 to #24 - cannibalvegan
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No, I use Photoshop for example, but I will never pay 600 bucks for it since I would have to save up for about 6 months to afford it (This is the minimum time it takes so if I did that I couldn't spend a dime for 6 months.) so I pirated it instead. If I had the option to donate whatever amount I would like then I'd donate 10-20 dollars easily because I like the software and if that option was available regular consumer would be able to give money to the company as well without starving, but right now there are pretty much no casual user who is willing to pay that much for a single software so instead of donating a small amount they don't pay **** instead.

This would of course not work with companies, though since they are willing to pay because they have a bunch of money, but if the option of donating a little bit was there they would save their money instead of paying full price. Maybe if they had ads on the free version (The one you would donate to.) companies would buy the full software.
#25 to #24 - BloodyTurds
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Actually I've donated more to freeware, than I've purchased in software (this is including 2-3 windows licenses) Though I'm probably the exception. (if something isnt freeware I usually just ignore it)

Also putting a donation link in the installer, isnt quite the best idea, as most users want to try software before they consider donating.. but throwing one on the updater that pops up when theres a new update.. thats a good idea
User avatar #8 to #5 - sharknik
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(08/14/2014) [-]
I've actually gotten more donations from running a Rust server than for software dev
User avatar #10 to #5 - BwainPhreeze
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(08/14/2014) [-]
addy is that you?
User avatar #11 to #5 - yaybacon
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(08/14/2014) [-]
What app did you make?
#9 - grimfuck
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(08/14/2014) [-]
Watch out for extra "I Agree" buttons, if you read the wizzard you will see you are agreeing to install the malware
User avatar #21 to #9 - alphagex
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(08/15/2014) [-]
Also when it says install express (recommended) or Expert (Manuel) always go for manual cuz you can choose what to install and what not
User avatar #22 to #9 - dyalibya
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(08/15/2014) [-]
I was fooled once, I am now Extra very carefully cautious
User avatar #28 to #9 - tripscausedthis
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(08/15/2014) [-]
fixing this is most of my income.
#42 to #9 - Millybays
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(08/15/2014) [-]
Ive had wizards install adware despite me declining every single piece of **** ever.
User avatar #19 to #9 - xdeathspawnx
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(08/15/2014) [-]
seriously they aren't hard to spot. Just read the heading of the page before clicking netxt.
#20 to #9 - brisineo
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(08/15/2014) [-]
This.   
   
Take the time to at least skim read your installer wizard.  Look for three buttons instead of two, ("I Agree", "I Disagree", and "Cancel") look for logos or programs that AREN'T what you're trying to install, and hit custom install instead of recommended if it's free software.   
   
Probably takes an extra 30 seconds to a minute at most.  Laziness is how these things get ya.
This.

Take the time to at least skim read your installer wizard. Look for three buttons instead of two, ("I Agree", "I Disagree", and "Cancel") look for logos or programs that AREN'T what you're trying to install, and hit custom install instead of recommended if it's free software.

Probably takes an extra 30 seconds to a minute at most. Laziness is how these things get ya.
User avatar #13 - Das
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(08/15/2014) [-]
"Recommended installation"
User avatar #18 to #13 - instalation
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Can I be recommended too?
User avatar #29 to #18 - satansferret
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(08/15/2014) [-]
yes
User avatar #15 - ThatsSoFunnyHeHe
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(08/15/2014) [-]
>"Do you want to instal it automatically (Quick) or use Custom (Advanced)
>Select custom
>The only difference is I can now tell it not to instal some toolbar
#17 to #15 - lostmyaccounts
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(08/15/2014) [-]
i seen ones where the "Accept" button is for adware and you have to click "decline" to continue the install of the real program. very shady
User avatar #40 to #17 - tehlulzbringer
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(08/15/2014) [-]
yeah
you actually have to read that you're only declining to install some viruses and not the things you want to install
******* bastards
#1 - bahi
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(08/14/2014) [-]
just installed comodo firewall... it installs like 5 extra programs without asking... so 85% of the install is random **** instead of the firewall, gg
User avatar #16 to #1 - labree
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(08/15/2014) [-]
better then that, just get microsoft essentials, thats prolly the best anti-malware around, considering its made by a multi-millionare company like microsoft
#12 to #1 - fragman
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(08/15/2014) [-]
if you really need a client firewall for whatever reason and the built-in isn't enough (for whatever reason), try zonealarm.
User avatar #30 to #1 - securityexplain
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(08/15/2014) [-]
Comodo is just a bunch of bloatware. Stay away from it.
#6 to #1 - coughingboss
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(08/14/2014) [-]
It usually has an option for a regular download and custom. If you click custom you can usually unselect the other programs.
User avatar #32 - senseofpurpose
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(08/15/2014) [-]
Actually, Firefox installs a kind of malware too.
It's the Google search provider which is one of their sources of money.

Google pays a big chunk of money to Mozilla to provide Google Search as the default one
#43 to #32 - gitanisme [OP]
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(08/15/2014) [-]
Yeah I'd rather use bing.
User avatar #7 - dracolegacy
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(08/14/2014) [-]
thats what ninite is for
User avatar #35 - antiponiesuser
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(08/15/2014) [-]
what is a mvp?
User avatar #41 to #35 - auda
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(08/15/2014) [-]
most valuable player

In this and most context it can be accounted for as a good guy.
#31 - ultratoaster
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(08/15/2014) [-]
I <3 my browser
User avatar #37 to #31 - vampired
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(08/15/2014) [-]
you'd **** your browser =! you love your browser
#39 to #37 - ultratoaster
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User avatar #27 - tripscausedthis
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(08/15/2014) [-]
approximately 70% of my income is deleting and removing bogus extra software that people blindly install by bashing that next button. **** I love my job,.
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