Well, now I have no idea what's accurate or not, and I'm not vested enough to parse the accuracy of any claims.
There are papers on both sides, and nobody cites legal sources, so it's buried in paperwork, somewhere.

Ah well. Is this what's important, anyway?

im gonna be honest, i never even knew irish slaves existed until recently. im only 19 but my school/college never told me about irish slaves, only black slaves. feels kind of prejudiced.

Irish are white.

There is no such thing as white slaves.

Even though the word "slave" comes from the word "Slav"....

I cringe every time I see this **** . You guys desperately want to believe that Irish indentured servitude was comparable to black slavery so that you can whine about black people some more. It's just not true - the same "slavery facts" comp pops up on this site every couple of months with all these supposed facts and figures that the blacks don't want you to know. Thing is, the only source is one author who has pretty much no academic credentials and is basically the only one making that sort of claim. It's pure propaganda, google that **** and all you will find is hardcore right wing sites and white supremacy sites. But it fit's so nicely into FJ's little make believe world where us straight white men have it harder than everybody else that it gets thumbs every time its posted, spawns comments like this, and just keeps on circulating. Everyone on this site is entitled to their own opinion, but pretty much everything I see posted about "Irish slavery" is hyperbole at its best and ******** at its worst.

<< You have sources?

Liam Hogan is probably the best source - he's an Irish scholar who has written or contributed on several op-ed pieces on the subject and has a book coming out later this year.

www.opendemocracy.net/beyondslavery/liam-hogan/%E2%80%98irish-slaves%E2%80%99-convenient-myth

www.thejournal.ie/readme/irish-slaves-myth-2369653-Oct2015/

They weren't ******* slaves. They weren't treated as property. There is no historical precedent for such claims, "Irish slaves" is a myth. I'm speaking to deaf ears here.

The only debate is whether or not they were slaves in America. Irish slavery was a very real thing in Europe for centuries, and one very undeniable example was when Oliver Cromwell shipped off thousands of Irish to work as slaves in (I want to say Barbados) working in the sugar cane fields and growing tobacco. They were treated as lesser beings. It's not brought up to undermine Blacks arguments as it is to join together with them and agree that everyone has suffered and slavery is not ******* okay - it's like ******* Black Lives Matter vs. All Lives Matter. We're not trying to undermine anybody, and the Black Lives Matter movement is creating a further divide between the races where as the All Lives Matter movement is trying to just bring everybody ******* together because we're all ******* humans.

And I bet you think all white people are millionaires and never go to jail for committing crimes?

I don't think they're all millionaires but they're a hell of a lot less likely to go to prison even for the same crime.

www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/18/chart-of-the-week-the-black-white-gap-in-incarceration-rates/

Black people go to prison for committing crimes.

Name one case where where they did not send a murderer or rapist to prison for being white.

Racist.

So you are saying black people are not capable of committing crimes?

Worst troll move ever.

This isn't really true though. I'm half Irish myself and I know all about how the Irish were treated in the earlier days of America. They weren't slaves though, or at least not in the same sense as African slaves. They were indentured servants. They were still treated like **** but not nearly as badly as African slaves. They were freed after they payed their debt for the crossing to America (generally after 7 years). Many chose this fate for themselves to escape famine or poverty though others were captured and forced into it. Not only were they freed after 7 years, their children were not forced into servitude nor were their decisions of who to marry controlled by their owner. While their treatment was certainly subhuman and deplorable, it was not nearly as destructive as generational slavery. It was really more similar to the form of slavery practiced in Western Africa in which people (sometimes prisoners, sometimes family members) were used as collateral for debt. Once the debt was payed, or after a certain period of time, the person was returned home unharmed. The Irish were essentially using their lives (for seven years) as collateral to escape to a new world where they could be free of British tyranny. While some were captured against their will, these were the minority, and the alternative was likely spending the rest of their lives in some debtors prison rather than becoming free men after 7 years. The treatment of the irish (and many other races for that matter) during the period of indentured servitude was certainly horrible, but it does not compare to people who were captured to become slaves for their entire lives, and for their children, and their children, and their children children children and so on to have a single day of freedom. 7 years is nothing compared to being born, living, and dying all as a slave. To never know freedom, to never know that freedom is even possible, is a far crueler fate.

******* racist go back to ireland whitey

But but they is white. ANd if white people enslave other white people then the white people that are enslaved still have privilege. Despite african slaves being valued more.

No, the English Language is based off everything (all other languages).

I know that.

Uh... the IRA?

No, but when was the last time that happened for anyone?

I dunno, 2012?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_for_slavery

Apparently blacks are not as successful as these crafty fellas:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_Conference

What language is that, anon lathyrusvii ?

I am not blocking you.

You are just a pussy and like to post as anon.

I just hate Filipino bakla that try to get me to send them dick pics via funnyjunk, silly lathyrusvii anon.

Same, me, again.

Yeah, btw. It's me.

You gotta keep up with the conversation.

He pointed out the IRA as a response to slavery, then asked when the last time anyone took up activism in response to slavery, and this is the answer to that question.

I don't think slavery was quite a racial thing in those ex-colonies.

I think it was. Segregation, whatnot... presumptions based on skin color...

Anyway. >> Where's this going?

Sure, but enslavement was just a thing colonial empires used to do. Only in the US was slavery based on race, and even this was a later development: pro-abolitionist sentiments were starting to hold root, so the slave trade used propaganda and us vs. them mentality to preserve their cash flow.

It all boils down to one thing: $$$

Yes of course. Washington, Jackson... Benjamin. It all makes sense; we're ALL slaves to little green men.

Green man is master race.

Little green men?

You can call a **** chocolate but it still smells.

unless you spray it with enough Febreeze odor-blocker

I may be reading too much into it, but anon's statement was to show the way by which the treatment of Irish people was justified. "Indentured servant" sounds a lot better than slave, just as "collateral damage" sounds better than "killed an innocent."

Well, aren't we all, really.