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#13 - DrDanny (01/08/2016) [-]
Mama mia thats a spicy meata ball
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User avatar #70 to #13 - advice (01/09/2016) [-]
a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... but they have an olive garden
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#1 - tryg (01/08/2016) [-]
Don't forget to shout at the top of your lungs when you use the force lightning
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User avatar #27 to #1 - lazycloud (01/09/2016) [-]
I love that bit. gets me so pumped
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User avatar #24 to #1 - novus (01/09/2016) [-]
palpatine's No Can't tell me what to do
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#21 - asasqw (01/09/2016) [-]
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Don't forget to heavily use cybernetics and drugs to make your reflexes on par if not better than jedi
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User avatar #86 to #21 - mranldestroyer ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
all of these looks silly
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#87 to #86 - asasqw (01/09/2016) [-]
Well me and 46 others like it
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User avatar #89 to #87 - mranldestroyer ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
im glad im not a manchild like the 46 others and you
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#91 to #89 - asasqw (01/09/2016) [-]
If it means I like Star Wars:Clone wars than I'll take it
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User avatar #50 to #21 - michaelrock (01/09/2016) [-]
best starwars animation if you ask me
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User avatar #51 to #50 - michaelrock (01/09/2016) [-]
i always did love general grievous
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#2 - anon (01/08/2016) [-]
and then some faggot comes and states you cant use force **** on other jedies.
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User avatar #3 to #2 - alwaysscaroused ONLINE (01/08/2016) [-]
well you can't, and there is also the fact that force users read each others mind's when they fight
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User avatar #4 to #3 - angelious ONLINE (01/08/2016) [-]
force users have a limited ability to predict future.

thats why prolonged combat with a force sensitive is dangerous, and thats why people like hk suggest sporadic actions when fighting a force user since those are harder to predict.
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#52 to #4 - puttman (01/09/2016) [-]
Hk for the win you meat bag
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User avatar #72 to #3 - Mr Unsmiley (01/09/2016) [-]
Uh
Are you sure
Cause there was that time Yoda threw Sidious across the room
Or when Dooku Force choked Obi Wan
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#78 to #72 - anon (01/09/2016) [-]
The first thing a jedi is taught is to put up a force wall or barricade of some sort but they can become distracted and lose this protection
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User avatar #97 to #78 - skalias (01/09/2016) [-]
Not anymore. Woo Disney
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#7 - jokervsbatsy ONLINE (01/08/2016) [-]
Well the opponent has got to be a real ******* incompetent fighter for most of them to work (or a non force user).

I also like how the Sith finishers are mostly douchbag-gey. For a cult that relies that heavily on Power in all it's forms, it would be surprising to not use it and try to win through theatricality and deception.
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#17 to #7 - anon (01/08/2016) [-]
"If the opponent does exactly what you want him to, here's how to win!"

I didn't need a series of crappy pictures to tell me that.
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#82 to #7 - anon (01/09/2016) [-]
These are intended mainly as jokes, not to be taken seriously.
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User avatar #8 - gazra (01/08/2016) [-]
From what I remember the Jedi consider it dishonorable to turn their light-sabers on and off to gain an advantage so most of these techniques would never be used by them only the Sith.
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#9 to #8 - blevs (01/08/2016) [-]
nah, it takes a few second before you can turn them off and on again, there is like one dude that has mastered the art
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#10 to #9 - windlordvaati ONLINE (01/08/2016) [-]
According to the saber comp from asloth that it was frowned upon, but also wasn't widely practiced regardless.

I always found some portions of the dogma as a little silly. Its okay to warp someone's mind to avoid confrontation, using the ultimate form of deception to bend them to your will, but avoiding prolonged and potentially dangerous fights with deceptive melee tactics is off-limits? Its not like turning off your saber is a gateway drug to force lightning.
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User avatar #65 to #10 - labree (01/09/2016) [-]
ive never heard that it was frowned upon to turn your lightsabers off
it might be deadly though, if you were to turn it off at the wrong moment its all over
then you have the fact that you could simply shorten the blade rather then turn it off to achieve the same effect

also, its not really "Bending them to your will" most jedi use a much lighter form of it then the sith do
more of a force persuade of sorts.

the issue with jedi turning their lightsaber off though is that it implies a much more aggressive and deceptive fighting style, which could lead to them taking the same shortcuts in the force, and in their actions
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#69 to #65 - windlordvaati ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
I mean, I get their reasoning, it just doesn't consistent. Call it what you want, they totally brain rape to get what they want, regardless of the intent or the reason. Qui-gon tried to use force of persuasion to trade Watto useless money for parts. They more or less try to force people to do stuff against their interests, in the interest of benefiting the Jedi involved. Altruistic or not, its not a very virtuous tactic. "shortcuts in swordplay" seems significantly less dubious than mind rape.
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User avatar #93 to #69 - emiyashirou ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
The jedi council didn't approve of Qui-Gon's methods though.
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#105 to #93 - windlordvaati ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
That is a fair point. I would cede the whole argument were it not for the jedi mind tricks that Obi Wan partook in, Episode 2 an 4. I pretty much discount episode 4 as evidence for anything because Lucas really didn't have future sight for the franchise at that point, but Episode II is a great example.

Instead of asking the alien to stop bothering him about death sticks, he manipulated his actions with the force. I think the council particularly disliked how Qui-Gon didn't bend to their will and acted on his own judgement and didn't collaborate well enough. I don't think the particular mind tricks were the contention they had with qui-gon.
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#74 to #8 - Dadhhg (01/09/2016) [-]
Lightsabers have to be made to turn on and off rapidly and repeatedly.

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The reason they work is that there is a cycle of energy, the energy stars at the hilt and circulates to the end of the lightsaber and back, the returning energy is recycled and used to emit more energy, this allows lightabers to sustain themselves on a tiny power supply, they only have to replace energy lost cutting things, not sustain the whole blade constantly. Early lighsabers didn't have this recycling ability, and needed back pack sized power cores to sustain themselves.

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But creating the blade takes a large energy input, this is why it is often slow, the amount of energy creating the blade is more than the reactor supplying it, to solve this most lightsabers have a capacitor, which stores energy from the reactor when the lightsaber is off, the capacitors allow further reduction of the power source, making the blade lighter, as capacitors are able to store energy in a much more compact form than a reactor that could supply it.

The reason lightsabers get shorted by certain materials, like cortosis, is because the material transfers large amounts of energy out of the loop quickly, the capacitor is depleted, and the blade fails. The same can be achieved by submerging non specialized lightsabers in water, or trying to cut through too much material too quickly.

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To make a lightsaber able to turn on and off rapidly you would need either a much larger capacitor, reactor, or both. And that type of thing makes the hilt larger, heavier, and more vulnerable to damage, Maul's hilt is twice the size because it needs twice the power to start and sustain itself, a lightsaber can't exceed the size it's capacitor and reactor can sustain, otherwise it shorts out and becomes useless.
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User avatar #44 to #8 - ScottP (01/09/2016) [-]
Who cares about honor when you're the one left standing?
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User avatar #68 to #44 - norkasthethird (01/09/2016) [-]
jedi certainly do
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#11 to #8 - anarchtree (01/08/2016) [-]
actually false

the sith hate that style of fighting because it is not a emotion filled style of fighting, you need to be utterly calm and strategic
like a jedi

Some jedi use it but not all
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User avatar #63 to #11 - mrsexmuffins (01/09/2016) [-]
Actually false as well

The jedi dislike the style because it's seen as deception, and jedi are typically against that

A minority of users from both sides
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#25 - darkbringer ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
GIF
I like to call this one the "Traitor Breaker"
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#59 - mrsixinch ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
GIF
>continue spinning
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User avatar #53 - tkfourtwoone (01/09/2016) [-]
That "Dewback Tail" is actually a legit move in historical sword fighting, IIRC

Except that you don't hit with the handle, but with the pommel. Although it's always better to throw the pommel to end your opponent rightly, of course.
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User avatar #54 to #53 - feedtehtrollz (01/09/2016) [-]
lightsabers don't really have a pommel because they don't need a counterweight for the blade, but yea I wish more swordplay in movies used old techniques, they're interesting to watch like the half-sword technique.
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#96 to #54 - tanitakavirius ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Yeah, of all the historical techniques, half-swording is the one that should be used with lightsabers.

It would increase the number of hand cut off by about 10% compared to the movies.
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User avatar #60 - Silver Quantum (01/09/2016) [-]
i'm a great star wars fan and all, but for a movie franchise that revolves around jedi, whose main weapon is a lightsaber, i find that 90% of all duels are seriously underwhelming, choreography is lame as hell and the lack of force pull/push attacks in conjunction with lightsaber combos is really disappointing.
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#19 - mytwocents (01/09/2016) [-]
create an army of troopers armed with laser guns excusively against an enemy that specialized on how to deflect them. despite a booty hunter showing how to elude this problen, keep that tactic for the next 50 years. priceless.
create an army of troopers armed with laser guns excusively against an enemy that specialized on how to deflect them.
despite a booty hunter showing how to elude this problen, keep that tactic for the next 50 years.

priceless.
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User avatar #64 to #19 - thempc (01/09/2016) [-]
there were way more battle droids and later rebel soldiers with laser guns than jedi/sith with lightsabers. mathematically, it made sense
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User avatar #49 to #19 - schneidend (01/09/2016) [-]
Lightsabers are uncommon, blasters are everywhere, and generally effective against everything. Jedi can be easily overwhelmed by enough blaster fire. Most don't have the skill to deflect automatic fire at all.
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User avatar #23 - ketchupshinobi (01/09/2016) [-]
These guys get more creative with lightsabers in 7 minutes than I've seen in the entire Star Wars movie franchise.
RvD2: Ryan vs. Dorkman 2 - High Quality
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User avatar #42 to #23 - gmarrox ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
This is actually what I imagine two skilled masters dueling would look like.
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User avatar #48 to #23 - schneidend (01/09/2016) [-]
Yeah, but a lot of their choreography is even lamer than Episode I's.
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User avatar #99 to #48 - skalias (01/09/2016) [-]
For what seems to be two skinny nerds, the choreography is pretty good.
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User avatar #66 to #23 - adu ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Several parts of this choreography suffer from the old problem of actors targeting the lightsaber instead of actually targeting the wielder.
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User avatar #26 - heartlessrobot ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Or keep an automatic slugthrower at your side and unload on their ass
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User avatar #29 to #26 - theasexualgamer [OP](01/09/2016) [-]
Make the slugs out of Pure Cortosis, like Cad Bane did.
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User avatar #30 to #29 - heartlessrobot ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Or anything. Since molten metal is just as deadly as non-molten metal when traveling over the speed of sound.
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User avatar #31 to #30 - theasexualgamer [OP](01/09/2016) [-]
Lightsabers disintegrate normal slugs. Cortosis shorts out the lightsaber.
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User avatar #32 to #31 - heartlessrobot ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Pretty sure they can't disintegrate 10 slugs a second.
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User avatar #33 to #32 - theasexualgamer [OP](01/09/2016) [-]
Considering they can block an Onslaught of Rotary Blaster Bolts, i think they can block slugs.
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User avatar #34 to #33 - heartlessrobot ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Slugs are harder to see, since they don't produce light.
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User avatar #35 to #34 - theasexualgamer [OP](01/09/2016) [-]
Jedi can usually sense them coming. Remember Luke training against the droid? He couldn't see them or the bolts.
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User avatar #36 to #35 - heartlessrobot ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
No but it also shot very slowly.
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User avatar #37 to #36 - theasexualgamer [OP](01/09/2016) [-]
But eventually you get much better.
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User avatar #38 to #37 - heartlessrobot ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Yeah but only so much is humanly possible. Even with the force.
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User avatar #39 to #38 - theasexualgamer [OP](01/09/2016) [-]
Humanly, maybe, but not Twi'Lik, Mandalorianly, Mace Windu-y fairly sure Mace Windu's race is " ************ ", but I don't know , etc
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User avatar #41 to #39 - heartlessrobot ONLINE (01/09/2016) [-]
Humans also have some of best reflexes of the races. And Mandalorian is a way of life, not a race. A Mandalorian is probably the one packing a slug-thrower and a lightsaber. Probably has two swords, a stun baton, a disrupter pistol, ion pistol, and two heavy blasters too.
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User avatar #77 to #32 - asasqw (01/09/2016) [-]
Jedi can boost their reflexes to near super sonic speeds, and cheat by looking into the future to know where to block
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#5 - anon (01/08/2016) [-]
I still like the idéa the post before said about lightsaber battles. As i qoute: Wouldnt it be easier to use the force to turn the enemies lightsaber off?
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#12 to #5 - windlordvaati ONLINE (01/08/2016) [-]
I've always seen the force as a broad, imprecise tool when used hastily or under duress. The force power comp said something about a particular sect of force users being able to accelerate rocks to bullet-like speed, as if that was a special thing.

The bigger point it, you could hit a saber with a blast of force, and it'd be like swinging a 4x4 at them. You'd be more likely to push the saber and their arm back rather than pressing the button on the saber.
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#15 to #12 - anon (01/08/2016) [-]
didn't Darth Vader force choke a bitch on a completely separate ship just by look at him throw a video feed?
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#16 to #15 - windlordvaati ONLINE (01/08/2016) [-]
That's episode 4. Honestly, I would say in Star wars in general, there are quite a few inconsistencies. Anakin was the chosen one, regardless.
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User avatar #57 to #16 - tkfourtwoone (01/09/2016) [-]
No, he's talking about Admiral Ozzel in Ep. V. And no, they were on the same ship, The Executor.
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User avatar #6 to #5 - theasexualgamer [OP](01/08/2016) [-]
Usually you can just turn it right back on.
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User avatar #14 to #6 - zacoren (01/08/2016) [-]
And in the split second before that they are dead.
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#98 - einsampibroch (01/09/2016) [-]
I have difficulty believing the techniques involving using the force directly on the other Jedi: aside from Force Lightning ('cos it's, y'know, lightning) wouldn't two Force-Sensitives of equal fortitude and mastery not be able to affect each other? Like, Shockwave would be impossible to accomplish because either you're resistant to being affected directly by the Force to be pulled, or the Force-User pulling you is vastly superior in Force Mastery, making your retaliatory Force push futile as it wouldn't affect him. Can a Master school me on this? On a similar note, can a Jedi use a Jedi Mind Trick on another Jedi? If so, what would the circumstances be? Thanks in advanced to whomever can answer my questions.
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User avatar #101 to #98 - hargleblarg (01/09/2016) [-]
In the expanded universe there's an explanation of force-shields (don't ask me for specifics, I just remember reading about it) for why people don't have massive force battles, but that's all been scrapped now so Idunno. Going purely by the films to answer the mind trick one, it's mentioned that mind tricks only work on the weak-minded, so a trained jedi wouldn't even be phased by an attempt.
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#102 to #101 - einsampibroch (01/09/2016) [-]
This does good to answer my question, what with the Force-Shield in the Extended Universe (It will always be canon to me). It just reinforces my initial take.
May the Force be with you.
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#85 - treak (01/09/2016) [-]
White text on ligh blue background...
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User avatar #75 - aejann (01/09/2016) [-]
The battles in Star Wars would be so much cooler (albeit shorter) if they did **** like this. Watching them flail their lightsabers at each other for ten minutes get boring.
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User avatar #100 - hargleblarg (01/09/2016) [-]
You know, I think this is why the prequels failed.

In the original trilogy it's mentioned by every jedi and sith that the force is more powerful than anything. "The power to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the force" "Size matters not" etc. This isn't shown in the prequels at all, in fact they go out of their way to trivialise the force (midichlorians). We go from a mystical all-powerful energy to symbiotic bacteria.

Now think to the jedi. In the original trilogy they were mystical and focused on use of the force. Obi-Wan only used his lightsaber in the cantina (very briefly) and in his fight against Darth Vader. Yoda didn't even have one and neither did the emperor. Did they need one? Hell no, one look at Yoda lifting an x-wing or the emperor using his force lightning and you KNOW they're powerful.

In the prequels though a jedi's ability was measured by their lightsaber skills. They were damn good to watch but to me this is where the prequels went wrong. 99% of the time the force was used in a fight (Obi-Wan jumping over Maul, Yoda vs Palpatine, Anakin jumping over Obi-Wan etc.) were odd and goofy because they had to fit in with a lightsaber duel. It's why spins and flips in a real fight are horrible tactical decision, you leave yourself wide open. In the now non-canon expanded universe there were explanations like force-shields etc. but if we go by purely the films the jedi are just people with nasty pointy sticks that glow in the dark, not mystical force-wielders.

The ONLY fight that even begins to demonstrate the direction the prequels could have gone is the force-battle between Yoda and Dooku, and even then it's replaced by the sheer spectacle of Yoda going ham with a lightsaber. Think how much better fights could have been if the emphasis was on using the force rather than a lightsaber.

UNPOPULAR OPINION TIME: It's why I liked The Force Unleashed. It had a big focus on using the force to empower your attacks and put your mastery over it against your opponent, with creative ways to attack and defend. The lightsaber combat was PART of the fight, NOT the emphasis.

I just feel the force was massive wasted potential in the films (though in the clone wars cartoon it was used pretty damn well, cartoon Samuel L Jackson force-punching robots was friggin' awesome) when they could have really been creative.
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