Let the battle commence. . who would Win in a barfight, and wha?. Sauron, heres why. Let the battle commence who would Win in a barfight and wha? Sauron heres why
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#34 - theshade
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Sauron, heres why.
Sauron, heres why.
User avatar #73 to #34 - bjornkrage
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yeah, i'd probably wager on the demigod, too.
#54 to #34 - mondprinzessin
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also, Sauron has the best buddies to watch his back
User avatar #66 - Vandeekree
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It would be an eternal conflict of immortals. Vader can't die in it because he is the chosen one, destined to bring balance to the force. Sauron can't be killed because the ring can only be destroyed in mount doom. And Valdemort can only be killed if Harry dies and is destined to be killed by Harry.

So then the only way for one to win this fight is by TKO. Sort of sending the other running. It all depends how fair the fight is and how much they know about one another. If Vader knows that death comes out of Voldi's wand then he could force push it away before it could be used. In the same way, if he knew that the ring on Sauron's hand was his weak spot, he could probably manage to cut it off with his light saber(he has a lot of hand cutting off experience after all)
The same goes for Voldemort. If he knows that his enemies are all close combat, he might be able to get far enough away and just hurl spells.
Sauron is the hardest one to actually judge sense he's kind of mysterious in his powers. There's no way to tell if the killing curse would work on him or what kind of magical powers he really has. Also there's know way to know how well the force would work on him or if he is even too "heavy" for Vader to toss around. Though his main weapon tends to be his deceptions and manipulations of the mind. It's a matter of debate how well Sith Lord discipline and Dark Lord wards would handle mental attacks.

In my opinion, the brawl would start with Vodlemort hitting the biggest guy first(Sauron) with a killing curse, it wouldn't work. Vader would see the spell and rip the wand to him, break it, and then Voldi would turn tail and run. At that point it's Vader vs Sauron. Sauron simply wouldn't be able to hit Vader sense Vader can predict his moves and his light saber would slowly cut even his armor to pieces, eventually the ring would get cut off and Vader would go have a beer.
User avatar #70 to #66 - riverofchex
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Well reasoned. You may enter Ravenclaw tower.
#77 to #66 - anon id: 21fba418
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Sauron can't die. Literally cannot die. His spirit can be trapped to the point of him not being able to interact with the living, but he wouldnt die meaning vader would end up dying sooner or later, same with voldy since voldy still ages, and sauron would be the last one alive.
User avatar #80 to #77 - Vandeekree
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That's what I said, the ring would get cut off his fingers and his body would fail but only that body, he could still later be made into a huge tower with a giant flaming eye at the top or something.
#72 - krawkkk
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alcoholism wins........ It always does
User avatar #2 - themedianoche **User deleted account**
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Sauron is like a Fallen angel in LOTR mythology so i'd say there's not much a mortal and a human wizard can do...
#3 to #2 - rimjobmcgee
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I agree unless avada kedavra would work on him. The Voldemort has it hands down because he can easily kill at a great range, he can even take the ring via accio and destroy it likely with the monster fire thing spell that destroys horcruxes since the ring basically is a horcrux
#40 to #3 - astarothaufromage
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Nope, magic doesn't work on the ring and the only way to destroy it is melting it in the fire from which it came. This isn't just mount Doom, because mount doom's fire has teh same origin as things like higher dragon breath but that fire spell won't work. Neither would avada kedavra since that only works on regular human beings and not even on creatures like dementors, and of course not on the ring. I'd say voldy loses first because of his bad reflexes compared to the other guys, plus he Vady could force choke him and keep his wand away.
User avatar #52 - rubixium
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Obviously Voldemort would lose because he would be slurring his words so badly he wouldn't be able to cast any spells.
User avatar #59 to #52 - CallMeCrisco
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I think Volde is practiced enough for non-verbal spells...
#38 - aeogar
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The pic didnt say kill, it only said win. And since sauron obviously has the superiour strength we can conclude that he would simply murder vader and torture tom untill he begs for death, and just keep on keeping on until he screams "shire baggins!"
User avatar #39 - pnix
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depends wheter sauron is wearing the ring or not.. both sauron and voldemort cant die, cuz their souls ar placed in objects (sauron's in a ring and voldies in 7 horcruxes).. so, first dies vader.. i think it is much more easier to destroy one ring for voldemort than 7 horcruxes for sauron, because voldemort can do magic **** and ******* teleport.. voldemort wins i guess..

but if we must say only WIN not KILL... well.. while 2 are fighting, the third one wins i guess..
User avatar #45 to #39 - tehrealfluttershy
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But the ring can only be destroyed at mt doom. Sauron would **** voldy up.
User avatar #50 to #45 - pnix
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yea, but voldemort can teleport! )
User avatar #51 to #50 - lyiat
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And Sauron is omnipresent. Your point? You're pitting a fallen archangel against an ultimately mortal human warlock. Sauron is the general of the source of all evil.
User avatar #57 to #51 - pnix
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good point ;) i dont remember how it is exactly, but if Im right, then Sauron doesnt use any magical skills in combat, except the power of one ring in my opinion, that is a huge disadvantage against voldemort..
User avatar #58 to #57 - lyiat
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And your basing this off... what, exactly? He's the single most powerful being in Middle Earth now that Morgoth is gone (Except for perhaps Tom Bombadil), and his powers are specifically left to imagination for the reader. He's never explicitly been shown using them in the stories, though the movies had him destroying entire units of soldiers with every swing of his mace. He produced a ring that allowed him to dominate some of the most strong-willed people in the world. He can raise undead and command wraiths as the Necromancer. He has the all-seeing eye, which can see through any deception and any disguise. He supposedly had four forms which he took while fighting Luthien and Huan in The Silmarillion, which where a Dark Sorcerer, a Great Wolf, a Serpent, and a vampire "dripping blood from his throat upon the trees". It's also known that he has power over fire, and the capability of accomplishing massive scientific strides (beyond that of even the dwarves). He makes gunpowder in an age of catapults and trebuchet. He can alter reality through sheer force of will.

I'm sorry, I grew up with both Star Wars and Harry Potter. I love those series very, very dearly, but neither Voldermort nor Vader stand in even the same class as The Enemy, a literal personification of the Christian Devil.
User avatar #69 to #58 - pnix
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Today I have learned not to mess with a huge fan
too bad, I was at the wrong side this time
#81 to #69 - tehrealfluttershy
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Well looks like I didn't have to even type. I mean I know a **** ton of LOTR, but lyiat dominates my knowledge. My general argument is Sauron is literally a god, but damn, he just kept going.
#68 to #39 - mykoira
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well you can't kill Voldemort, but how says you can't do the Bane on him.
User avatar #36 - tiddycats
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One thing is certain:
The owner of the bar would lose.
User avatar #61 - thijsofbodom
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Sauron, he is immortal and he can blow away like 15 people in one blow so I guess he would be pretty hard to kill/beat
User avatar #62 to #61 - thijsofbodom
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but he will have to wear the ring under his ******* armor then the others won't know how to kill him
User avatar #4 - cryoticshell
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Assuming they all had the fullest power we've seen them to have in their respective movies, Voldemort. Here's why.

Vader is human, he can die, that's it.

Dark Lord Sauron has the ring, witch makes him almost immortal while he's wearing it, but it can be removed.

Voldemort is immortal while the Horcruxes exist, and with the "full power" rule above, there's at least one existing for him.

Anyone kills Vader, Voldy removes the ring with magic and kills Sauron.
User avatar #5 to #4 - sirzeel
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Voldemort: "AVADA KED..."
Vader moves his hand.
Voldemort: *cough cough".
Vader gets his lightsaber and literally unplug Voldemort's head from his neck.
Now we have an immortal head unable to talk [so unable to cast spells] and a useless body which can't even move since there is no spinal control from the head.

I don't think Mr.No-Nose has a chance against Vader.
User avatar #6 to #5 - cryoticshell
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And what doyou think Sauron's doing while that happens? He's not going to help kill Voldemort, someone's busy doing that. He's gunna go for the distracted one, Vader, who can't do **** against him.

Vader then dies, Voldemort's still alive because Sauron can't do **** against him, and same ending as before.

I'm not even a Harry Potter nerd, I like Star Wars better. Vader still has no chance against two near-god entities.
User avatar #8 to #6 - sirzeel
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Plus, if Sauron is going to help someone, will help the one who can easily kill later, as you said, to kill the one who can't do **** versus, always as you said.

I don't think you will help a gazelle who's fighting vs a lion and then face the lion to die.
User avatar #7 to #6 - sirzeel
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I don't really think Sauron is going to help Voldemort.
And for sure Voldemort doesn't stand a single chance in a 1v1 vs Vader, for the reasons above.

Not saying this because I'm more a Star Wars fan than a Harry Potter one, it's just a [my] logical conclusion.
User avatar #9 to #7 - cryoticshell
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Well your opinion is wrong.


Just kidding, but why assume that Sauron's going to be helping Voldemort? He's already weakened, he's not much of a threat except that he's immortal. Kill the one that can die easily, leave the weak one for after.
#25 to #9 - pwnedomega
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"Your opinion is wrong"...
#26 to #25 - cryoticshell
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User avatar #11 to #9 - sirzeel
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You said Sauron can't do **** vs Voldemort.
So your mental chart is: Voldemort > Sauron > Vader.

If so, I don't see why Sauron should be willing to help someone who can't kill, instead of helping Vader [who can make Voldemort useless even if he can't kill him] and then killing him.
User avatar #13 to #11 - cryoticshell
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Why do you keep saying he's helping him?
User avatar #14 to #13 - sirzeel
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I'm answering to your first reply to me, where you said that he's going to help Voldemort [Cit. "Vader then dies", so Sauron helped Voldemort, otherwise Vader doesn't die vs Voldemort] and that then Voldemort, still alive, kills Sauron.

But this is not happening imho, for the reason i said before.

If someone is going to help someone, is Sauron helping Vader vs Voldemort, then Sauron trying to kill Vader.

I actually can't imagine who will win in this last fight.
User avatar #15 to #14 - cryoticshell
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And what doyou think Sauron's doing while that happens? He's not going to help kill Voldemort, someone's busy doing that. He's gunna go for the distracted one, Vader, who can't do **** against him.

Vader then dies, Voldemort's still alive because Sauron can't do **** against him, and same ending as before.

I'm not even a Harry Potter nerd, I like Star Wars better. Vader still has no chance against two near-god entities.




Exact copy. I said he's not going to help Vader.
User avatar #16 to #15 - sirzeel
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Yeah, and that's why I contest.

Either he helps Vader or does nothing while they fight.
User avatar #17 to #16 - cryoticshell
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Ok, so basically you're saying that if three people are trying to kill each other, person one incapacitating person two and person three killing person one so they can kill person two means that they're helping someone?
User avatar #18 to #17 - sirzeel
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You assumed the action of Sauron by asking the retoric question "And what do you think Sauron's doing while that happens?".
User avatar #19 to #18 - cryoticshell
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And you think that Sauron would just sit there eating popcorn while the two people he's trying to kill are in the unwinable battle that you described, Vader force-chocking an immortal to cut off his head.
User avatar #20 to #19 - sirzeel
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Why not?
I mean, the main purpose is winning the fight, so why don't let the other two killing each other and then fight the remaining one, who is, with all probability, tired?
User avatar #21 to #20 - cryoticshell
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Because Sauron doesn't do anything for the enjoyment of it, he does what he does to get **** done. That's how he works. If he just had fun with everything, he wouldn't be the same character.
User avatar #22 to #21 - sirzeel
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He's drinking some iced coke with lemon and a little umbrella.
I don't think it's the same character of the film/books.
User avatar #23 to #22 - cryoticshell
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So we're going by a fan made picture now?

In that case, why are they fighting at all? The basis of this that I described is the characters from their series, not this picture.
User avatar #24 to #23 - sirzeel
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The character from their series would never meet. They actually don't even exist in the others' universe. So yeah, if we want to discuss about this we need to begin somewhere, and since the post started talking about "barfight" [none of them either entered a bar] and showing them drinking gay ****, I assume logical to start from here.
#10 to #4 - anon id: 25094e37
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Darth Vader could potentially kill Sauron. He does have the force and a lightsaber, after all.
User avatar #12 to #10 - cryoticshell
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That's the thing, both of them can be killed fairly easily. With Voldemort, you'd have to first hunt down the Horcruxes, while you have an immortal wizard trying to kill you
User avatar #28 to #12 - darlingdo
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Keep in mind, this is a barfight.

Not a death match. Don't have to actually kill the person.
User avatar #31 to #4 - dancokacole
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The way I see it is that Sauron would win the bar fight, though not a death match. This is because Darth Vader will be too drunk to use the force properly, or have the hand-eye coordination needed to use the Jedi fighting style, Voldemort wouldn't be able to aim his wand if he can even mutter out the spells. Sauron would win in a basic bar brawl. When it comes to killing I think we can agree Voldemort surely would have to survive from the horcruxes alone as you stated.
#41 to #31 - mechathefourth
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He who must not been named is a dark wizard, a very very powerful dark wizard, I think he knows at least one spell to sober up, plus he can turn into smoke or what ever and fly around, plus he cant die he is immortal.
User avatar #42 to #41 - dancokacole
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We are talking about a bar fight, not killing one another.
#43 to #42 - mechathefourth
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Then it would be an easier win for nonose
User avatar #44 to #43 - dancokacole
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Nonsense, because if you recall spells need perfect recitation, without slurs or even the slightest mispronunciation. Also while drinking Voldemort's aim will most likely majorly suffer.