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#20 - madcoww
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The thing is, though, is that it is entirely possible to recover with that few people, provided there aren't actually any hereditary diseases or such. Considering they are astronauts, it's unlikely that they would have more than a single recessive gene of one, and that too would be very unlikely with thirty astronauts, considering rarity of such diseases.
The most effect it'd have in the most ideal solution is cutting down the gene pool to a bare minimum. Our species could still recover.
#6 to #1 - qualjyn
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In the video they relate amongst other to the lack of an oxygen and food source... So it's not really so much about the lack of numbers.
User avatar #8 to #1 - martycamp
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What would happen would be that they'd be perfectly fine... for the first few generations. But eventually, the inbreeding would kill us off. Mutations would occur in the germline, even if there weren't any dangerous alleles to begin with. And probably more frequently than they do on Earth, because they aren't as shielded against cosmic radiation. Eventually, some of them would start dying, or not live as long, or just become "less fit". 30 isn't a viable population size, not to mention we don't know how many women there are. It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that there would be more men than women up there. What if there were only 5 women? Then everything would happen that much quicker.

But the real thing that would probably kill us is disease. The brilliant thing about our immune systems is that, even if a new "super-bug" appeared and wiped out a large proportion of the population, our immune systems are different enough that a reasonably large population somewhere would survive. During inbreeding, this variation would disappear. We can see it in cheetahs - they are so genetically similar, I believe that there's a 50% for any given individual to be a valid tissue donor to any other one. Any disease that can infect one has a near-certain chance to infect another too.
User avatar #9 to #8 - mitchr
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True. Of course, in space, this would be a somewhat smaller problem; I bet they sterilize everything they send up.
Of course, that doesn't account for any viruses they already have, or such- can't sterilize the inside of a human body. But it'd minimize the issue.
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To have no significant future damage through inbreeding you need about 1000 people to repopulate, that way everyone is far enough apart genetically both initially and following on for generations they won't become freaky mutants.
To have no significant future damage through inbreeding you need about 1000 people to repopulate, that way everyone is far enough apart genetically both initially and following on for generations they won't become freaky mutants.
#30 to #10 - anon id: f03689bf
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That's actually not true. Inbreeding only increases the likelihood of a birth defect by a few percent, and would result in babies more frequently because the parents are so genetically compatible.
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I fail to see how that points out that what i said isn't true. Whilst the chance of birth defects may not increase by massive amounts, it still increases, and you still need 1000 people to reduce the chance of birth defects back down to normal.

And surely having more children would only increase the chance of having children with birth defects?
User avatar #11 to #10 - mitchr
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Perhaps so, but that doesn't mean it's not possible to repopulate with a much smaller number.
User avatar #12 to #11 - eddymolly
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Of course its possible, but in a few generations, you'll start to get problems.

As I said, 1000 is the minimum for no inbreeding problems. You can do it with less, but you run the risk
#13 to #12 - mitchr
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Yeah. This would, after all, be assuming that everyone could man up and get over having sex with their sisters for the continued existence of the human race.
User avatar #14 to #13 - eddymolly
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Well assuming the 30 or so people repopulating aren't related, then only there kids would have to get over the family banging, and if you raised then to find that perfectly normal, it wouldn't be a problem at all
User avatar #15 to #14 - mitchr
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Yeah. But at the same time, how hard would it be to do that? Kids inherit the values of their parents, more or less, so it'd be extremely hard.
User avatar #16 to #15 - eddymolly
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Not really. If you told them from a really young age and it just happened around them, they'd be fine with it. Like kids swearing when there parents do it, its just what they've observed
User avatar #17 to #16 - mitchr
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Are we really discussing the plausibility and moral issues of incest in the event of a cataclysm?

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Well, I suppose that's really the only time when you CAN discuss it, really.
#18 to #17 - eddymolly
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Yes we are, and its not the only time...
Yes we are, and its not the only time...
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#23 to #1 - anon id: a0b9ff63
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they will run out of food. they have no farming on the moon
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Considering they have thirty astronauts there, it's likely that there is already a moon base. If a moon base was created, it's also very likely that they'd have farming there instead of sending up a rocket or shuttle every few months to bring more food, which would cost billions upon billions of dollars.
User avatar #86 to #24 - yusay
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Not really. The money to fund it would more than likely be made back on mining. The thing we want to go back to the moon for.
User avatar #88 to #86 - mitchr
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Yes, however it would be far more efficient to create a farm there, increasing the profits massively.
User avatar #89 to #88 - yusay
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Not really.
User avatar #90 to #89 - mitchr
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No? They already would have living quarters either way, so there's at least a short-term base set up. It's just a matter of adding another section to the base, adding to water supplies, so on.
User avatar #92 to #90 - yusay
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There's pretty much no reason for it if you're just going to be cycling these people off and sending out/receiving supplies on a regular basis. It would be a pretty massive waste of money.
#71 to #1 - golbot
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What if theyre all dudes...
#72 to #71 - mitchr
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Unlikely. Possible, but unlikely.
Now, if they were sent up there as a possible backup plan, then there'd likely be 27 woman and three men.
#75 to #72 - golbot
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Then the 3 dudes would end up killing themselves from the stress caused by living with 27 women.
User avatar #76 to #75 - mitchr
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Don't kill the joy. He's happy. Look at his face, so excited. Do you want to kill that pure, unadulterated delight?
User avatar #7 to #1 - joiik
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but they would not have food and oxygen
User avatar #2 to #1 - orikanyo
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Humans are surprisingly adaptable, just a factory of supplies really.
User avatar #3 to #2 - mitchr
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Yes, and that, I think, is what distinguishes us from anything and everything else. Look at Mass Effect- Krogans have multiple organs in case one gets damaged. And four testicles. Four. Turians, meanwhile, have a massive military structure that is designed to efficiently and methodically destroy any threat to Palaven without a moment's worry. The Asari are a race of alien amazonian women who all have bitchin' psychic powers. The Protheans could communicate through direct nervous contact- without even using words, they communicated through their skin.

Humans? We didn't give up. Regardless of what happened, we fought on. It's true in fiction, and it's true in the real world, too. I don't think we'll ever be made extinct. We might die in a supernova, or freeze in the cold universe that awaits us in the dark future, but we won't give up against anything, ever.
#33 to #3 - newforomador
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That reminded of this Humanity **** Yeah story.
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That was... pretty badass, actually. Got any more of those?
#35 to #34 - newforomador
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Currently, I have 35.
#36 to #35 - newforomador
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This is a continuation of that one.
User avatar #38 to #36 - mitchr
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Feel free to drop more of these on my profile.

Please. This is amazing.
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#39 to #38 - newforomador
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I'll just do a dump of them all right here, that way everybody can see them.
User avatar #47 to #39 - mitchr
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That works too, thank you.
#70 to #38 - newforomador
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This one here is the last one I have. I'm pretty sure that bitchpleaseshutup has some more that I haven't posted yet.
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This one here is my personal favorite
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User avatar #77 to #54 - mitchr
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Okay, yeah, thanks to you I'm gonna go reinstall Spore now.
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User avatar #96 to #95 - mitchr
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Ooh, lovely. Thank you good sir.
User avatar #97 to #96 - bitchpleaseshutup
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Sorry for being late sorry for being Canadian
User avatar #98 to #97 - mitchr
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No worries there. And hey, canadians seem like pretty awesome people. Nice and polite, as opposed to a lot of people down here below you. Not all of us Americans are impolite, of course, but still.
But yeah, this shall be wonderful, thank you.
User avatar #99 to #98 - bitchpleaseshutup
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I actually live in the US and consider myself an American.
User avatar #100 to #99 - mitchr
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Ah. So solely a joke. Still, though. Canadians seem pretty alright.

But yeah, there aren't too many polite people anymore. Well... to be exact, there need to be more. And of course it needs to be seen as politeness and not flirting.
User avatar #101 to #100 - bitchpleaseshutup
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Stop flirting with me! God, can't a girl have a conversation with at least one decent guy? sarcasm
User avatar #102 to #101 - mitchr
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What I am referring to is a post I saw earlier saying that a coworker filed a sexual harassment complaint for his having complimented her shoes.
The "feminists" quotes because they really are just putting the cause back more than anything crossed with politeness equals idiocy.
User avatar #103 to #102 - bitchpleaseshutup
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Jeez you pig! She had every right to file the claim! more sarcasm, sorry if I'm annoying you sorry for being canadian
User avatar #104 to #103 - mitchr
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No, not at all. I love sarcasm. Actually not sarcasm.
User avatar #105 to #104 - bitchpleaseshutup
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Just wondering do these ----> this have a specific name
User avatar #106 to #105 - mitchr
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Spoiler tags, I think.
User avatar #4 to #3 - orikanyo
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its in our nature to survive, one way or another, we somehow manage to wiggle through.
User avatar #5 to #4 - mitchr
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And damn right we do.

And that is why no tyrant rules forever- to rule a tyrant must destroy hope. That is not possible.
#22 - spatialstatus
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_zHHwH2JSQ
Here's a animated version, done by the "Gone with the Blastwave" creator.
I like it even better than the comic. I think it's the soundtrack that really does it for me.
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is it good
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it is great
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I mean it tells you to not let go but what do they do, they don't ******* listen
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I can't see how this movie does not end badly so I don't really want to watch it...
#80 to #25 - defacedcreeper
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I just saw it.

Houston, we have a feel
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Let me guess, she flies away and slowly dies from running out of oxygen?

That's really all I can assume can happen, no way in hell she could possibly be rescued.
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no
she rescues herself
#81 - errdayimfjing
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IF that's the case, then what the hell do these crop circles mean?!?
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''Good luck trying to figure this one out, assholes.''
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Aliens have rotating dicks that double as fans.
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Had to be done
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That was actually kind of awesome and deep.
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