It might do

But it was also underwhelming to see

Excuse you, that fight was ******* intense. It's not just about the actual fencing. It's about the emotion portrayed through the characters during the fight. The prequels forgot that. VII is bringing it back to some extent.

It didnt come through for me
You can bring any emotion into a conflict but thats never what makes it intense, atleast not to me

Any combatant can be angry or upset
Even a skilled warrior can be confused, distraught, in pain

The fight just didn't have that urgency in it
Even with the planet cracking around them it felt like a pair of stroppy teenagers slapping at eachother with socks

What's your opinion of the fights from ep2 and ep3?

You gotta remember that Kilo got shot by Wookie's blaster, which they purposely showed off how strong it was, the other saber users never held a saber before and none of they hardly had any training, Kilo killed the other apprentices before they became Jedi Order so he didn't have much experience at all. So it's like backstabbing and shooting someone while they're sleeping and saying you won fairly and are the strongest (there were stormtroopers around him on the flashback)
Well at least that's what I used as an understandable excuse.

That's all well and good
But the fight was still lame, with or without reason

Well you can't expect them to top the CGI fights made
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gclxgy2A_M
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkBiYpD3SDc
We'll probably NEVER get anywhere close, unless we get some fighters like the RAID movie and add force attacks.

That sounds totally plausible
why not do that

Those werent stormtroopers, i belive they were the knights of ren.

Not to mention the fights in episode 4-6

lol are you seven? I can agree that the fight in ANH is "boring" and anticlimactic, but the scenes in Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi are filled with emotion and demonstrate the dynamics between Luke and Vader

What fights are your favorite? When little old cartoon Yoda is flipping around fighting Dooku/Sidious with nothing actually happening? Or is it when Anakin and Obi Wan fight in lava for like twenty minutes and do some stupid ass tarzan swings?

Mate, the nostalgia is the only thing that makes those scenes appear as great as you describe it, face it. Its not even a bad thing, but the fights in the newer episodes are simply much mroe fluent and dynamic, which is also due to newly available technic

Yeah it's all nostalgia, that's exactly why Empire Strikes Back is regarded as one of the best science fiction movies of all time. Forget the characters, plot, dialogue, motives, etc. because it's all nostalgia

Bro, we were talking lightsaber duels, not any of what youve mentioned there

But those go along with the lightsaber duels and make them even more enjoyable. They arent just action scenes. They have meaning and purpose because of these aspects

That may be, but thats not my point. Im talking about the quality of the fight, i.e. the choreography and "sportsmanship"

idk they were kinda meh but that can be forgiven
a weakness of the time, where coreographing violence was probably reserved for bigger brands of the era

I'll stand by this to the grave but, for all their faults, the prequels had the best lightsaber duels of the franchise

Bitch, dont get me started on the animated series

get started
get going even

Oh yeah, great choreography.
I liked them too, for all the whooshing and lights, but they look silly compared to the original trilogy fights.

Is there a cooler precognition duel move in Star Wars I missed?

everyone ***** on this part where they fling the lightsabers at each other, but the strike that comes right after is the bomb.

Like, stop.

Not really, they mostly look great.

I imagine the new series will wind up having something on par. 7 had a fantastic excuse, one so good I would even call it a reason; everyone that holds a lightsaber in that movie is very inexperienced, even Kylo Ren, who has never fought another Jedi before. Of course they are going seem inept; they ARE inept!

Of course they did, and I have no problem to say that Yoda entering the hall on Geonosis, then throwing away his walking stick and turns ******* was one of the best moments for me in the entire franchise

yaas

but the little spat between him and empy in the senate hall was one of my most memorable fights

Yes, but I didnt watch episode 3 until late, and when I did it was on some (completly legal) streaming site, and thus hadnt much effect on me

I liked it tbh
warts and all
honestly I was the worst and III the best of the 3
II was bland as **** in places and pretty alright in others

I liked II more than III in some aspects, the other way around in others. Really hard to tell what I like more. By the way, in all fairness, maybe the fighting in VII was not as good because the respective characters are storywise supposed to be pretty much amateurs, save for Kylo Ren, but still

Yeah I understand that the two duelists are both soppy nerds who dont know what theyre doing, so maybe their fight was lame for story reasons

But the fact still remains, VII had the worst most pathetic lightsaber duels I'veseen in an official star wars production
And for reasons or no that's kind of disappointing

Eh, I didnt feel like that, but I can see where youre coming from. This way or another, we can both agree on that theres always room for improvement. Luke vs Snoke ultra fight 2018

that wont be a lightsaber duel though
that'd be a force battle

I mean luke's been living without his lightsaber for a decade or two
and Snoke looks like the kind of "I'm not getting up out of my chair if I can help it" kind of sith lord whos all about the dank dark magic ****

Maybe Luke trained with a stick?

He mightve
but given the dozy trance-like look on his face when Rey showed up, I doubt it

I bet he's just been meditating so hard he's been tripping off force-acid

He stood there since the day he arrived on the planet. He has no dialog in the movie because his only line wouldve been "Duuuuuuuude"

Skywalker is too damn true son
he's been skippin' the clouds

"Cloudcity" alright, he just came there to meet his homie Jamal Lando for the wares. In all seriousness I think there are some great duels to come, I think that should be the least of worries. Disney can afford the best choreographers of the world

dovahben, whats your problem

"Disney can afford the best choreographers of the world."
"Not to mention the fights in episode 4-6."

You see, the lightsaber duels in the original movies wasn't about the choreography, it was about the characters. Considering the Empire strikes back is one of the best films ever made by many, you may have missed the point entirely. The movies aren't just so that people can stare blankly at a movie screen for two hours waiting for the next action scene to come along. They're made for you to care about the characters and have a few more neurons working in tandem than the average kid. The confrontation between Vader and Luke on Bespin was the consequence of Luke disobeying Yoda, for Yoda saw that Luke was no where near ready to take on a Sith lord. Vader is talking the whole time during the fight, Luke is no match for him. That principle extends into Return as well. When Vader is taunting Luke, Luke bursts into an outrage, wailing on Vader with no grace or form, eventually slicing his hand off. It's about the emotion and why we even are in the theatre in the first place. Because we care about the characters. I don't really give a shred of a damn about Darth Maul because I had no idea why he was in the movie except to give the teenagers a lightsaber duel. That's where the prequels fell apart for me, they were all spectacle, no substance. I don't know about you but I like to be invested in a movie or series. But I could possibly tell by my quotes you don't really care for storytelling, which may be understandable; but will get my criticism nonetheless.

And i do care about the characters in the prequels, i do. I feel invested in every lightsaber fight in the saga because i enjoy the characters. My favourite duel is RotJ.

Also, if you wrote this by yourself im impressed but it sounds an awful lot like RLM rant on the prequels, so im assuming you copied it.

I've been MIA for a bit, but don't get me wrong. I love the ideas of the sith and jedi, conflicting with each other and eventually the Sith get the upper hand. I do like the fact that Anakin's major character trait is that is afraid of loss, which almost everyone can relate to, considering the rules of the Jedi. That's where I disagree with plinkett on occasions, the prequels expanded the lore, yet I beleive it could have been told more efficiently. Now I don't hate the prequels indiscriminately, Mcdiarmid killed it as emperor, and if Christensen were given the right direction and focus, he could have made a great "conflicted and morally confused" Jedi. It's the reason I like Kylo so much, I think Anakin should have behaved like him. Conflicting emotions with outbursts of adolescence and foolery. But I agree the clone wars should have had clones as villains as RLM suggested; no disrespect to a droid commander like you. But I honestly felt there was some wasted potential in the movies. I know Greivous was a badass in the cartoons but I'm thinking about the movie timeline. I'm open to dissenting opinions, because I like to discuss. I do, however feel Empire is one of the best movies ever made, even though the middle gets slow at points. Yoda was there to teach the audience about the force, even at my age it fills me with awe when I hear that clip on youtube or in the movies.

I drew inspiration from them, but the words are my own.

Impressive. I thought you just looked up a quote from the RLM reviews and copied them but if you actually wrote all this im impressed, even if i disagree.