Last Meals of Innocent Men

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#3 - anon (12/19/2015) [-]

presumed innocent 1993
still executed 1998

"Murica

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#191 to #3 - burgonyasalata (12/20/2015) [-]

yeah that really rubbed me the wrong way

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#171 to #3 - dfgthree (12/20/2015) [-]

Ah yes, America. The only place in the world that does stupid things. Everywhere else, a pure paradise on earth.

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#184 to #171 - gorillabutts (12/20/2015) [-]

America is supposed to be the "world leader" in being progressive and free. There's a reason why the UN and other huge businesses are stationed there. But while a chunk of the country is still stuck in the ******* dark ages, you kind of wonder what good the country is for. I mean, **** , it's businesses before people anyways. I don't see why they should follow some actual laws when the government already hates it's own citizens. But that's just my 2 cents.

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#174 to #171 - urs (12/20/2015) [-]

They were all executed in the US.
Europe only has 1 country with capital punishment but does conduct a very rigorous investigation on criminals. **** off americunt.

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#185 to #174 - stupro (12/20/2015) [-]

Which one? Turkey?

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#188 to #185 - orangelightning (12/20/2015) [-]

belarus

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#196 to #185 - alkamer (12/20/2015) [-]

Not even they do that any more I'm afraid.

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#197 to #196 - stupro (12/20/2015) [-]

Afraid?

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#199 to #197 - wizlock (12/20/2015) [-]

Gay sex?

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#201 to #197 - alkamer (12/20/2015) [-]

For various reasons. For once, even they don't do it while America still does. and for second, they outlawed it when they needed it most, thus causing a major terroristic organisation to re-grow and spread.

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#202 to #201 - stupro (12/20/2015) [-]

How would a law that allows capitol punishment prevent terrorist?

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#203 to #202 - alkamer (12/20/2015) [-]

Long short story, death penalty outlawed just before capturing the leader and his inner circle of the terrorists. If they could wait a little longer, headless snake would die, know what I'm sayin.

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#189 to #187 - stupro (12/20/2015) [-]

Turkey is considered to be both Europe and Asia, like Russia.

So Lukashenko retained capitol punishment. I didn't know that.

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#198 to #174 - tommygentz (12/20/2015) [-]

America also has a rigorous investigation, it's actually more expensive to be put to death than life in prison because of how many times you're able to appeal. I'm strongly against the death penalty but I'm sure Belarus makes mistakes too

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#216 to #174 - slayerdog (12/20/2015) [-]

That kind of talk will get you killed.

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#217 to #216 - urs (12/20/2015) [-]

I don't know why that video made me laugh a little.
But why would it get me killed, when I stated the truth of this post?

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#218 to #217 - slayerdog (12/20/2015) [-]

It's the " **** off americunt."

Joke was that we could kill you in America.

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#176 to #171 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

Being passive aggressive and trying to defend yourself even though it literally happened in America so what are you trying to prove.

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#127 to #3 - orangesarenice (12/20/2015) [-]

B...But this is only happens in other countries right?7

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#118 to #3 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

American freedoms are best freedoms.

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#180 to #3 - dorg (12/20/2015) [-]

I want to call the prosecutor and ask his/her opinion on the matter. Assuming he/she has not already killed them self.

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#9 to #3 - anon (12/19/2015) [-]

HOW can this ******* happen?

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#12 to #9 - thebballin (12/19/2015) [-]

For real though, how? I'd really like to know more about how he was proven innocent, but still executed.

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#15 to #12 - dogsonalog (12/19/2015) [-]

It's not that he was proven innocent, he was PRESUMED and in this case probably was innocent. He signed a confession to murder of a police officer, but later went on to say he was tortured and influenced. Many others came forward later on, which is why he is "presumed" innocent.

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#18 to #15 - ompalomper (12/20/2015) [-]

so how the bloody **** could they go through with the execution? don't you have that whole rule about having to be proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt?

"well steve, as it now turns out, it isn't actually a sure thing that he did commit that murder."
"wait, really?"
"yupp, they suspect he was repeatably beaten until he "confessed". you know how it is with cop-killers, they "take turns" interrogating"
"well **** , guess he's being freed then."
"woah, lets not get ahead of ourselves here"
"wut"
"well, he DID confess and it WAS a cop he supposedly killed"
"so? he could be innocent!"
"but do we have proof of that?"
"...so he needs to prove his innosence, not we need to prove his guilt?"
"basically"
"... eh, **** it. i have a bet on his last meal. i heard the pool is like 3 grand now"
"same"

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#139 to #18 - ayyylien (12/20/2015) [-]

he signed the confession, they wont care if you're innocent or not
pic related it's the judge/cops fw they find out someone's innocent but they signed a confession

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#159 to #139 - newall (12/20/2015) [-]

Fortunately, it doesn't work like that.

A confession signed under duress is void in law. So there's no reason for him to have been executed. But America's execution laws used to be... questionable, at best.

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#32 to #18 - thebballin (12/20/2015) [-]

Yeah thats what I thought too, thats why the whole process takes forever, so things like this don't happen.

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#39 to #18 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

Thats how it is in america. If you get charged with something and cant prove that you DIDNT do it then you did it. Thats it.

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#62 to #39 - bann ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

No....I dislike our justice system but that's just straight up wrong. That's, by my understanding, the way some countiries like China do things, but in the US you're innocent until proven guilty.

That's also why it's so easy to "sue" someone...because the defendant doesn't have to do **** . Hell my boss was sued and he never even showed up to the hearing because he knew the suit was ******** . So he didn't show up, the judge heard the guys case and threw it right out the window, like pretty much EVERY lawsuit in the states. 90% go to court, but the majority don't go anywhere and jsut cost people money.

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#43 to #39 - wrpen (12/20/2015) [-]

Well, no, actually. That's literally one of the bill of rights amendments, the right to a fair trial, which in America means that if there is no physical proof that you are involved with the crime, which admittedly would include just being in the nearby area during the crime, you are one hundred percent incapable of being found guilty.

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#96 to #43 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

... unless it's a rape case.

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#124 to #39 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

spot the yuropoor

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#117 to #85 - billycakes (12/20/2015) [-]

But its not proof if its forced out of him through illicit means to prevent himself from being subject to further harm. Its even been proven that when interrogating terrorists in guantanamo bay torture doesn't ******* work.

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#214 to #18 - parishailsatan (12/20/2015) [-]

Oh believe me, **** that "Proving innocence" ******** . I got fired from my management position where I used to work because I couldn't prove that I didn't sexually harass another employee. They didn't bother trying to prove that I did at all and when I filed a counter claim after my termination apparently there was evidence found that she *********** the whole thing. She got fired but I never got my job back.. Still fighting for the appeal to at least get the Harassment charge removed

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#14 to #12 - thefates (12/19/2015) [-]

No the problem is he wasn't proven innocent. He was tried and found guilty. New evidence must have shown he was not in fact guilty but he was already on Death Row. He was presumed innocent with no way to get him out because you can't be put on trial for the same offense twice.

There are systems in place to help stop this sort of thing from happening now.

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#34 to #14 - Norway (12/20/2015) [-]

Double jeopardy means you can't be prosecuted for the same crime twice unless new evidence is found that is vital to the trial, so he was guaranteed a new trial if new evidence was found that proved his innocence

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#45 to #34 - wrpen (12/20/2015) [-]

The U.S. Double jeopardy clause only states that the same event cannot be the cause of two separate trials, such as a man being murdered or a burglary, including the time and location of the crime as distinct identifiers of a particular event. For example, a man tried of assaulting a woman placed into a coma cannot, if proven innocent, be tried for murdering the woman should she succumb to her wounds a month after the incident. If the woman were to awaken and the man be there to then assault her back into a coma, he may be tried again.

New evidence does not apply after the trial, at least not in the U.S., regardless of whether it would then prove him guilty or innocent. It was, in fact, considered to grant him a retrial by the Supreme Court, but this consideration was decline by a five judge majority.

Out of nine.

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#46 to #45 - Norway (12/20/2015) [-]

I should have specified he is guaranteed a new trial in appellate court if new evidence is found

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#42 to #3 - sinonyx ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

"Leo Alexander Jones (April 13, 1950 – March 24, 1998), a black man, was convicted of the sniper killing of white police officer Thomas Szafranski, 28, and sentenced to death.

The crime occurred on May 23, 1981 in Jacksonville, Florida. The main witness against Jones later recanted. Two key officers in the case had left the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office under a cloud, and allegations that one of them beat Jones before he supposedly confessed had gained credence.

A retired police officer, Cleveland Smith, came forward and said Officer Lynwood Mundy had bragged that he beat Jones after his arrest. Smith, who described Mundy as an "enforcer", testified that he once watched Mundy get a confession from a suspect by squeezing the suspect's genitals in a vise grip. He said Mundy unabashedly described beating Jones. Smith waited until his 1997 retirement to come forward because he wanted to secure his pension.

More than a dozen people had implicated another man as the killer, saying they either saw him carrying a rifle as he ran from the crime scene or heard him brag he had shot the officer. Even Florida Supreme Court Justice Leander Shaw, who formerly headed a division of the state attorney's office, wrote that Jones' case had become "a horse of a different color". Newly discovered evidence, Shaw wrote, "casts serious doubt on Jones' guilt".

Shaw and one other judge voted to grant Jones a new trial. However, a five-judge majority ruled against Jones and Jones was executed by electric chair one week later, on March 24, 1998, at the age of 47."

he was already out of trial and convicted before most evidence of his innocence came out, and apparently once you've been found guilty is a hell of a lot harder to convince the appeals court that your innocent and to give you another trial

most likely... black in the wrong place at the wrong time

thebballin, ompalomper you were damn near right

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#48 to #42 - wadethegreat (12/20/2015) [-]

Yea, I live right next to Jacksonville I live right next to the city and no one really talks about how crime ridden AND Corrupt iy used to be and still kinda is.

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#125 to #48 - confusedasian (12/20/2015) [-]

Jacksonville? Panama City is pretty close to it. It's not like that over there is it? I'm thinking of moving over there for some jobs.

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#178 to #125 - wadethegreat (12/20/2015) [-]

The surounding areas arent that bad, and neither is jacksonville
It used to be much worse

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#177 to #125 - professorbob (12/20/2015) [-]

As a PC native, I can tell you that I've never heard of anything like that happening around here. If somebody gets arrested, 9/10 times it either involves drugs or spring breakers. So as long as you avoid the public beaches around spring break, it's a nice town.

And FYI, if you ever decide to go to the beach in PC, I recommend you go to one of the state parks rather than the public beaches, it's pretty cheap and is lot cleaner and less crowded.

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#211 to #177 - confusedasian (12/20/2015) [-]

Noted.

Going to move because I heard the IT jobs over there are pretty good and high in demand.

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#60 to #3 - thesecretbear (12/20/2015) [-]

Unfortunately many police departments use interrogation methods that have been proven to lead people to false confessions.
They want a perp, and many of them don't care who it is.

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#89 to #60 - darkoyan (12/20/2015) [-]

that's why all lawyers say "DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE EVER" they'll use everything you say against you in court... and i mean ABSOLUTELY everything

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#92 to #89 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

There should be a civil disobedience movement that encourages people to stop talking to policemen you consider rude.

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#205 to #92 - xxsikoticxx (12/20/2015) [-]

It doesn't even have to be a rude cop, they could just be playing the "good cop" in order to get you to say what they want you to say.

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#155 to #89 - quantumranger (12/20/2015) [-]

That's great and all, but particularly uncaring or perhaps corrupt police officers have been known to keep people in holding for hours and hours (i'm talking upwards of 15-18 hours) without allowing them to contact or receive counsel. It's hard to not to talk to the police when they are the only people you see for maybe a day or more, and every time they see you they put the screws on you.

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#220 to #155 - darkoyan (12/20/2015) [-]

it's hard, but you have the right to remain silent, you MUST hold it

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#128 to #89 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

Theyll use everything you say... and make up the rest

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#135 to #60 - Bforbacon ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

Real talk though, right now anyone reading this:

NEVER ******* TALK TO THE POLICE
ALWAYS REFUSE SEARCHES

Especially if you actually did something wrong
Don't be an "am I being detained?" fag but for real don't just roll over.
That is all

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#95 - lordsaucy (12/20/2015) [-]

>asks for 6 slices of toast
>given 3 that are cut in half

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#13 - crlmsonhazard (12/19/2015) [-]

If innocent people were killed shouldn't the prosecutor go to jail for murder?

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#131 to #13 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

Theres A law in America now that the prosecutors can't get blamed even for willingly and knowingly charging an innocent man

Happens all the time
I think it passed under w Bush

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#88 to #13 - norkasthethird (12/20/2015) [-]

jury is always right bruh

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#16 to #13 - marioslmg ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

But then the people could be afraid to report in stuff, because it could be wrong and get punished...

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#21 to #16 - crlmsonhazard (12/20/2015) [-]

the prosecutor

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#22 to #21 - marioslmg ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

Well how do you know if he didn't? Search it up.

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#55 to #22 - brobathehutt (12/20/2015) [-]

Because prosecuters don't go to jail for pulling **** like this. There's a lot of famous cases of prosecutors going out of their way to try to keep innocent people in jail because winning a court case for them makes it easier for them to get up in the system. They really need to give prosecutors severe punishment for their ******** .

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#132 to #55 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

In America are you kidding
I'm with you but the people here are fantastically stupid...or straight up conniving and evil

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#138 to #132 - brobathehutt (12/20/2015) [-]

Prosecutors are the conniving evil type most of the time, or both. If you know a man is innocent but try to keep him in jail to further your career you seriously need to be arrested. If you chose the job of prosecutor for career instead of for doing the right thing you deserve to be in jail when you inevitably do **** like this.

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#28 to #13 - roninneko (12/20/2015) [-]

The prosecutor cannot decide on an appropriate sentence. That is the duty of the judge to decide in most cases. And what if the prosecutor won because someone ****** up on finding a critical piece of evidence for the defense? You can't kill someone for doing their lawful job.

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#5 - arkis (12/19/2015) [-]

This **** is the ONLY thing I have against the death penalty, there is always that damn chance someone is innocent, if things could be 100% then I would see no problem with offing horrible people rather than wasting tons of money and potentially allowing them out to repeat what ever horrible **** they did before.

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#101 to #5 - fusileer (12/20/2015) [-]

I don't really understand how, but isn't there an internet fact floating around that says the death penalty is actually more expensive than a life sentence?

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#112 to #101 - firesky (12/20/2015) [-]

Here's a study about it:
www.law.seattleu.edu/Documents/korematsu/deathpenalty/The_Economic_Costs_of_Seeking_the_Death_Penalty_in_WA_FINAL.pdf

If you have the option of appealing death sentence like it is in the US death penalty is about 1 mio. $ more expensive than life long because of court costs and so on. Incarcaration costs 300k more for life long than for death penalty.

If it's a death penalty like in Saudi Arabia or China it probably is cheaper than a life long sentence. Alltough I wouldn't bet on it either because I doubt they spend anywhere as much on incarcaration with their prison standards.

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#150 to #112 - admiralen ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

How the **** can it cost a million dollars to off a guy?
I could hire a ******* hitsquad for 10 grand...

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#160 to #150 - quantumranger (12/20/2015) [-]

It's not the cost of the execution itself, but the cost of the constant appeals and court time.

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#137 to #5 - houseofbrick (12/20/2015) [-]

I think that if there is sufficient evidence that you committed a crime (say, like robbing a bank while shooting up all the tellers/guards/customers but dang-it you forgot to put on your mask and you dropped your wallet with your identification on camera), then I think the death penalty should not only be enforced but embraced and carried out swiftly.

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#156 to #5 - trithai (12/20/2015) [-]

I've heard that the death penalty is more costly than keeping someone in jail for life, since the whole process for getting someone proven guilty enough for the death sentence costs a ton.

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#213 to #5 - talldumbdork ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

On the opposite spectrum, in California you could walk into a preschool and mow down 40 kids in front of a video camera, smiling at it and giving it a close up, and either get insanity charges, endless appeals, or life in prison with 3 meals a day. Definitely not all states are the same. In my opinion, it's about moderation. Saving death penalty for horrendous crimes that have incredibly small doubt, and more hard evidence. So while a guy who likely did a murder isnt killed but gets life with chances at appeals, but the guy who does a massacre infront of cameras gets a fast pass to hell.

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#123 to #5 - bigmanfifty (12/20/2015) [-]

Human life is sacred

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#136 to #123 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

Until it gets born

You'll never see a pro life person protesting a war

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#182 to #136 - elsanna (12/20/2015) [-]

>You'll never see a pro life person protesting a war

What does that have to do with anything?

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#183 to #123 - rakogoki (12/20/2015) [-]

nothing is sacred, some things we just like more than others so we put greater value on them.

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#65 to #5 - rakogoki (12/20/2015) [-]

the goal is to rehabilitate as well, like theres no way to be 100% sure a criminal can never become a functioning member of society again either.
personally i believe anyone can change, the hard part is knowing how to persuade them.

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#165 to #65 - asmodeu (12/20/2015) [-]

It's not always about the criminals themselves changing.
I mean, if someone steals food or money to pay for expensive medical treatment I don't really think it's their fault. They don't want anything extravagant, they just want to survive because their current job does not allow that or they can't find a job (I imagine homeless people have a hard time at that).

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#83 to #5 - hongkonglongdong (12/20/2015) [-]

That's kind of one of the main arguments, yeah. And it's been used by people for ever -- a medieval scholar wrote that horrible executions like burning or wheel-breaking should be outlawed purely because it was far better to see one hundred guilty men go on living than one innocent man be subjected to that punishment.

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#7 to #5 - sinery (12/19/2015) [-]

The death penalty should always be the most severe punishment, nothing more nothing less.
The problem is of course that it is irreversible so one would argue to only use it on those sure to be guilty.
However when you start adding doubt into the justice system, the system fails.

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#38 to #7 - gisuar (12/20/2015) [-]

there's always doubt in the system

that's why you're considered innocent until proven otherwise because of doubt
conclusion:
death penalty is retarded

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#37 to #7 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

The death penalty should ONLY be used when you're 100% positive that you have the right guy. And by 100% i mean video evidence of the crime. Not "We interogated (Tortured) him for 3 days straight and he confessed to the crime". Because at that point you say anything to make it stop.

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#40 to #37 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

I thought even video evidence could be not 100% at times either tho

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#84 to #40 - morphodite (12/20/2015) [-]

That's true; the video could have been tampered with. Or people may have a different interpretation of the video. There are too many things that can't realistically be accounted for with the death penalty. That's why it fundamentally doesn't work.

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#63 to #5 - sircontagious ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

i feel like the choice of death penalty vs life imprisonment should be up to the one who is receiving the punishment. i couldn't live inside a prison, i would go insane

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#1 - svensname (12/19/2015) [-]

this made me both depressed and hungry

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#111 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

Ask for a mcrib.

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#143 to #111 - dingdongz (12/20/2015) [-]

and a shamrock shake

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#10 - njall (12/19/2015) [-]

>pressumed innocent in 1993
<still executed 5 years later

How??

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#17 to #10 - spearpwi (12/20/2015) [-]

Read it again...

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#20 to #17 - ishallsmiteyou (12/20/2015) [-]

"Presumed innocent in 1993, Leo Jones was still executed in 1998"

are you dyslexic?

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#19 to #17 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

yeah i read it again and it said "presumed innocent in 1993, Leo Jones was still executed in 1998."

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#25 to #19 - kingderps (12/20/2015) [-]

"Leo Jones Florida Convicted: 1981, Executed: 1998
Jones was convicted of murdering a police officer in Jacksonville, Florida. Jones signed a confession after several hours of police interrogation, but he later claimed the confession was coerced. In the mid-1980s, the policeman who arrested Jones and the detective who took his confession were forced out of uniform for ethical violations. The policeman was later identified by a fellow officer as an "enforcer" who had used torture. Many witnesses came forward pointing to another suspect in the case."

www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/executed-possibly-innocent6th guy down.

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#134 to #10 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

75% or more of the area of America is filled with mouth breathing Neanderthal inbred pieces of walking **** who think Jesus was white, rode dinosaurs and would actually be a Republican ( a living bucket of lying ********* )

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#24 to #10 - froggernaught (12/20/2015) [-]

Presumed. Not proven. You see, here in America we do things differently with the way law is handled.
When your being judged for something it's guilty until proven innocent, not innocent until proven guilty.
Men are always judged more harshly for the same crime, even more so if the man is Black.
In divorce or child custody the woman is generally the party that wins what they want.
Don't get caught with drugs here either, that's a six month sentence there, for weed.
The mentality towards cops is that one should be afraid of them, or at least wary for different reasons.
When one goes to prison for any reason, that makes one a recorded felon, and that means no-one wants to hire them, which means they are more likely to resort to crime to survive, crimes that are usually worse than the original crimes.
This is a nation that fears cops, creates criminals, kills innocent men, relies on "proven science" to put people behind bars and much more.

Maybe i'm just cynical.

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#114 to #24 - itskennyandjosh (12/20/2015) [-]

**itskennyandjosh used "*roll picture*"**
**itskennyandjosh rolled image**You make it seem so awful here, but don't commit crime, don't be a ******* **** stoner in places where it's illegal, and you'll be fine

Also my sister was arrested for dealing drugs and doing it in a neighborhood that has a school close to it and she got hired by tons of places she's not the best worker but she still got hired, it's cause she doesn't look like a tattoed druggie who looks like they're gonna kill someone

But i do agree that the whole "the women always wins on court" **** is ******** , it needs to be equal

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#23 - mattaaa (12/20/2015) [-]

i would ask for these

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#58 to #23 - malinko ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

shack-n-bake?

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#36 to #23 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

i love me so chicken tendies

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#181 to #36 - shittingmangos (12/20/2015) [-]

Especially with a blowy joey

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#90 - sedativechunk (12/20/2015) [-]

There's an episode of Penn and Teller ******** ! on the death penalty, you should all watch it. Very thought provoking and the subject and good reasons why it's STUPID to execute criminals.

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#93 to #90 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

Why would I watch a retard act like he's smart?

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#94 to #93 - lazaman (12/20/2015) [-]

Well I just read your comment sooooo

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#59 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

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#210 to #59 - mysisterismywaifu (12/20/2015) [-]

Sooo in a situation like that, would the police take the guy to the ER or what ever and save their life, or would they just let him die? Like cause they will die anyway, so will they save the dude and kill them or just let them die?

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#223 to #210 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]

I'm no expert but I'm guessing they would do whatever was in their power to keep alive for the execution. Legal issues and all that.

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#107 - olibear (12/20/2015) [-]

Oh man. It's a shame these people had to die without knowing that they were innocent. I'd hate to die thinking that I killed somebody

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#66 - nicepeter (12/20/2015) [-]

What kinda ******** is this, there are only two slices of toast, he got cheated! You can't just cut two slices of toast in half and call four, at least give the man what he asked for.

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#80 to #66 - jimmytwoshoes (12/20/2015) [-]

four slices, together those make 2 pieces of toast, but cut in half makes 4 slices

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#30 - RandomMRTroll (12/20/2015) [-]

i would ask for peanut butter and jelly

im allergic

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can't deny bec of law

can't get satisfaction of killing me

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#31 to #30 - daiemio ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

Most states in the US have removed the last meal request due to people exploiting it.

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#33 to #31 - daiemio ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

Still, if I had to ask for a last meal Hrmm.. I would ask for a Diet Coke, and a package of Menthos, and save one in my mouth right before the chair, eat it, and just puke pepsi all over while they fried my ass, XD

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#44 to #33 - sptnfouroneseven ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

That actually sounds hilarious. So what crime are you comitting to get the death penalty?

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#78 to #44 - daiemio ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

I'm going to prank call Trump.

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#54 to #44 - Silver Quantum (12/20/2015) [-]

while installing software, clicking next on end user license agreements without actually reading the terms. i like to live dangerously

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#56 to #31 - afireinsidebrad ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

how the **** do you exploit it???

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#68 to #56 - ariangirl (12/20/2015) [-]

For example Victor Feguer was allergic to olives.
For his last meal, he requested a single olive with the pit.
He did because he swallowed the pit.
That's how you exploit it.

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#109 to #68 - joshlol [OP](12/20/2015) [-]

nice

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#70 to #68 - afireinsidebrad ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

cuz honestly, it sounds almost, not quite as much, almost as dumb as sterilizing the area before a lethal injection

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#69 to #68 - afireinsidebrad ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

i see, gave himself a reaction to postpone his execution, but at the same time, ****** was gonna die, sooo why not just execute him and be done with it?

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#108 to #31 - joshlol [OP](12/20/2015) [-]

exploiting how?

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#221 to #108 - daiemio ONLINE (12/21/2015) [-]

A lot of people orders a LOT of food, some orders which seemed even impossible for one man to finish, and then left it all uneaten.

Imagine some 30 chicken clubs just lying there once a prisoner is taken to the chair, the guards would have to finish it.

Seems such a waste that people have to be complete dicks even in the face of death instead of reconciling with a modicum of respect for a "LAST MEAL"

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#57 to #31 - malinko ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

they actually put a limit on of $100

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#76 - asasqw ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-]

"A cake containing a presidential pardon"

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#2 - xgeneration ONLINE (12/19/2015) [-]

**xgeneration used "*roll picture*"**
**xgeneration rolled image**
That second to last picture was ****** up.

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#154 to #2 - supercookieduster (12/20/2015) [-]

**supercookieduster used "*roll picture*"**
**supercookieduster rolled image** fluffy

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#163 - MisfitsFan (12/20/2015) [-]

I dont see how they could eat all of that, knowing they're seriously about to die. My stomach would be in knots and food would be the last thing on my mind. Especially knowing you're innocent? Oh man, I bet that's the worst feeling ever

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#175 to #163 - mrevitcartta (12/20/2015) [-]

I would think that the years they were on deathrow before the actual date would help to sort of accept it.

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#192 to #163 - anon (12/20/2015) [-]

They've probably given up man. Once sentenced to death it doesn't happen the next day, inmates on death row usually wait months or even years to be executed. Being stuck in prison, knowing every second you are closer to being executed, they probably gave up man.

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#161 - amsel (12/20/2015) [-]

Just as an FYI, most of these "presumed innocent" comments do not mean "he didn't even do it!"

David Spence, for example, committed other crimes around the time of the Waco killings, and was already in jail for 90 years at the time of his indictment. He was found guilty based on forensic evidence (bite marks on the victims that matched his dental record) and a "jailbird" testimony (aka a person in prison heard him admit to his guilt). Both of those are no longer considered indisputable evidence, so in a trial today he would have been likely to have been found not guilty unless other evidence was presented. Therefore he's "presumed innocent" based on modern standards.

Claude Howard Jones was in and out of the prison system his whole life. People saw him walk into a liquor store around the time of the shooting, and his description matched eyewitness reports of the person walking out after the gunshots were heard. He was believed to have had two accomplices, both who pled guilty and testified that Jones did the shooting. Other friends who were not involved signed affidavits that Jones took credit for the killing, saying he did it because "[the clerk] was gay." He was also known to be a particularly violent work of trouble while in the prison systems. Later DNA analysis of a crucial piece of evidence (a strand of hair found at the scene that indisputably would have placed him there) was found to not be his. Again, by modern standards, he would likely have been found "Not Guilty" unless something else could place him indisputably at the scene of the liquor store.

Ruben Cantu was believed to have broke into a house under construction with a friend, robbed the two occupants, and shot both as one reached for a concealed weapon to defend himself. One of them died and the other survived. The surviving tenant, as well as the accomplice, both identified Ruben Cantu as the shooter. There was not originally enough evidence, but Ruben Cantu was caught a few weeks later, having shot an off duty police officer four times outside of a bar (which is not disputed). The murder case was reopened against him. To this day, the accomplice admits to having committed the crime, however around a decade after the crime, he recanted his claim that Cantu was with him, instead blaming another mutual friend of theirs. The victim has also recanted his positive identification of Cantu. A judge as recently as 2007 has issued a report claiming that Cantu would still have been found guilty based on the mountain of evidence against him, while the prosecutor had a change of heart (which may well be political in nature, as he now opposes the death penalty altogether).

Leo Jones (black) was believed to have shot a police officer (white). He was found with two rifles of matching caliber to the wound under his bed, one of which had definitive fingerprints. He confessed to the killing, stating he did it to get back at the police for racist brutality. He later recanted the confession, claiming that it was forced out of him. The police officers involved admitted to torturing the living **** out of Jones to get the confession (in 1997, before his sentencing in May of 1998). Many saw a man who does not fit Jones' description fleeing the scene with a rifle. This has led many to believe that Jones was innocent. He was still denied a retrial in May of 1998 and executed a week later.

Cameron Todd Willingham was blamed of starting a fire to kill his three children. He and his wife were both out at the time of the fire, and police investigations noted that an accelerant was used throughout the house. Again, a "jailbird" witness claimed that Willingham admitted to the crime while in prison (though later recanted). Many pointed to psychologist and psychiatrist testimonies, claiming that Willingham was a serial wife abuser, tortured domesticated animals, and exhibited sociopathic tendencies (some of which are ridiculous by today's standards - such as liking Iron Maiden)...

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