At this point I dont think its about assuming people have seen it
I think it's about not giving a **** about star wars and spoilers
Not that I personally side with this sentiment but there's almost a feeling of "Who cares, its star wars, you might aswell know exactly what happens before you evne see it cause its star wars"
I dunno i don't think that attitude changes over time. Either you had that at the release or you wont have it i assume. It's more like the people who care watch it early and now we have passed the time where people who don't care that much have watched it aswell. Leaving the ones who haven't watched it but still care as a small minority which makes us wonder why they haven't watched it if they care.
Speaking in metaphors:
If you and your family make plans for going to the restaurant and by the time you are there which is 10 minutes before planned and they are already half through the food you would be annoyed but if you are 30 minutes late you kinda lost your right to complain. Doesn't mean you didn't want to eat together but at least the blame isn't with your family as in the first case.
**nuclearchurro used "*roll picture*"** **nuclearchurro rolled image** The best way to avoid any spoilers is to avoid any content related to the story. It's not that hard.
>Kylo Ren gets mad
>Breaks **** using saber
"Omg, ******* edgy, whiny cunt, worse villain EVER!"
>Vader gets made
>Force chokes random, helpless people
"Wow, what a badass! Don't **** with this guy!"
correct me if I'm wrong but isn't (or wasn't) vader in constant pain 24/7 because of the suit?? I think it would be a tad more justified than the **** fits Kylo has, that and his only two family left hated him and he was constantly being manipulated by the emperor - after all if you think about it, Vader only wanted what was right for Luke and Leia once he found out they were alive but got ****** up by sidius into going darkside?
Again, tell me if I'm wrong, please.
I don't remember exactly but I believe Vader's suit had a way of keeping him from feeling the pain related to his injuries; he just hated having to rely on it and it made him incredibly uncomfortable so he had special meditation chambers built where he could remove his mask.
>Choking innocent people = "controlled"
The only difference is that Vader's tantrums require less movement.
A child bashing a toy against the ground when mad isn't any worse than squeezing the toy to damage it.
Like I said, it's brutal, but controlled. He kills the guy, and then he feels better. Not controlled would be grabbing everybody in the room and force-snapping their necks at once.
That is not controlled at all you ******* dolt.
How in the **** is breaking some random guy's neck because you're mad controlled?
If your child gets mad, then finds someone's cat and kills it, is that ******* controlled?
Not saying it doesn't, but buddy-boy up there is trying to make it out like any time Vader gets pissed, he takes a deep breath and chokes someone calmly. It doesn't work like that.
Certainly not every time he gets pissed off, but he does choke someone to death while promoting someone to their position, not even missing a beat. That has a bit more class than going ham on a bank of computers. That said, I love Kylo's outbursts because that it was Sith are about; unleashing their anger and passion.
I don't think the 'classiness' of an outburst should be considered. Even if Vader had a full blown rage fit, his armor made him slow and inflexible, so it wouldn't have had the sharp stoccato'd nature of Kylo's outbursts anyway, making them all appear deliberate and 'classier'. That aside, I also really like Ren's character, and can't wait to see him progress into a full blown badass. He's not a sith tho
You do not at all understand what the word "controlled" means.
Concentration camps were a controlled method of imprisoning and killing Jews.
Slavery was a controlled method of oppressing "inferior" people.
Darth Vader quickly and efficiently killing somebody was a controlled method to lower his anger.
Just because something is bad doesn't mean there is no control.
That's not what I'm saying.
If his anger was controlled, he wouldn't lose it and kill people out of nowhere.
His tantrums and Kylo's are the same things, they're destroying things that are on their side, Vader just makes less movements.
Once again, it's like a child smashing a toy against the ground vs squeezing the toy until it breaks.
Having just came from watching Empire Strikes back. You barely ever hear Vader raise his voice. He simply gives no ***** about excuses and deals with incompetence the Sith way. Killing the incompetent fool.
Kylo has hissy fits like an 8 year old would after being told he can't get a toy from Toys R Us. That's the issue everyone has. We don't want our Sith to be whiny bitches we want them to be resentful hate machines that kill their own men for failure.
Remember that time Vader woke up after his surgery and threw a tantrum so powerful it destroyed all the robots and surgical equipment that just saved his life just with the sheer force of his rage and sadness?
And remember how the dude he choked was an important officer in the Imperial Military? An Admiral I believe?
Also, remember how Anakin killed an entire village because he was pissed off?
It's most likely because he took his mask off, Kylo was very intimidating prior to his reveal, but he lost that once he removed his mask (which was intended).
I don't know, I kinda like his character. Sure he's whiny, and possibly autistic but he's showing a good "I don't know who I am or what I want to be" struggle. I'm just hoping Disney doesn't **** it up in the next movie, because then he will be just a whiny little **** .
He's no more whiny than Luke was in a New Hope. At least Kylo whines about fairly important struggles...who he is, who he wants to be, the struggle between the light and the dark, etc. Meanwhile we had Anakin who whined about sand and not being treated like a god at age 16, and Luke who just couldn't stick around because power converters were too important and his parents made him do chores.
I'm thinking he's going to be full Darth Vader focused dickishness in episode eight and then by the end of episode nine he'll probably be redeemed. But for episode eight he'll have no qualms with his evil. At least that's my guess based on Snoke saying he was going to finish his training, having killed his father and gotten defeated and wounded I'm guessing he'll have less confusion.
It's true, if you think about it. What are all these people motivated by hate and thumbs on FJ ever going to amount to? What will be their legacy? What will happen when even the memory of their legacy returns to the dust from whence it came?
What is popularity and rage and indignation if not impermanence, seeming so important for but a moment and then all who stirred in its wake lie down and never wake again.
Kylo is an autistic edge lord robot in true /r9k/ fashion. He is also what happens when a kid who plays pretend as Darth Vader by swinging a bat around in my backyard grows up and develops actual force powers.
don't try to justify the sittyness of te movie. Prior to this comp, I had block the stupid speech of the imperial du-, first order gude from my mind. It was THAT cringy.
Master Chief whined when? Vader didn't whine, sure he was angsty in 2/3 but some of that **** was justified like the slaughtering of the Tusken Raiders. Spiderman is a bitch, and when did Price ever whine? He was nothing but a stoic ******* badass...
At what point was the tantrum? Like between what episodes or during? And Price didn't tantrum. He was pissed that *********** betrayed them. And I'm thinking Chief might've threw some stuff around in frustration but that's not a HUGE childish tantrum
Super soldier that destroyed an alien super weapon, four times over, in fact
Goddamned space witch He's darth ******* vader
Took out Several symbiotes, several DNA spiced mutants, and survived a StG fall
A ******* veteran that fought in a damn near 10 year war
Step up, ***** .
I found his character endearing in his own way, and I'm curious to see how he develops. He was pretty badass Freezing a blaster shot mid-flight will do that for you, and he was mentally and physically obviously not at the top of his game in the last battle . I saw him as an unstable young man with identity issues who was still struggling with who and what he wanted to be and who was easily corruptible as a result, kinda like modern neo-nazi youghts or Isis recruits The fact the first order is basically space ISIS with Nazi imagery sure helps . Sure, he's a bit whiny, but the fact his actor managed to give a convincing portrayal unlike the prequels sure helps.
I think Kylo is one of the best villains around at the moment. Sure as hell better that pretty much all MCU villains. A few of my friends were initially turned off by Kylo once he took the helmet off but I loved it. He's just a naive short tempered and violent boy on his way to villainy