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How do you feel about child molesters? I killed ene. And I spent 17 and
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made the . Some people agree with me, and other people
disagree with me, but I know in my heartbeat I did the right thing."
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User avatar #2 - destismad (07/19/2015) [-]
Anyone happen to know some details about this? Who this man is and why the molester wasn't in jail and such?
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#4 to #2 - vorarephilia (07/19/2015) [-]
If it had been an accused rapist he killed, more people would ask for evidence (on here at least.) and we all know how quick police are to arrest someone on the suspicion of being a kiddy fiddler.

For all we know, he made an excuse to kill somebody.
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#68 to #4 - xurantar (07/19/2015) [-]
Or, twenty years ago, justice wasn't that bright.

The Dark Knight Kills Christmas (Original)
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User avatar #162 to #68 - labree (07/19/2015) [-]
i forgot about this video

god its hilarious
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#105 to #4 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
Seriously comment 68 is right mod, back then people got away with **** like that man.
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User avatar #163 to #105 - labree (07/19/2015) [-]
>>#68
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User avatar #294 to #4 - ninjagaiden (07/20/2015) [-]
The next step for a child molester is the capture and eventual torture/death/repeated rape of the child by the molester. I agree with this man and I'm glad he did it, in all likelihood, he did save a child's life.
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User avatar #201 to #4 - rossodonavanv (07/19/2015) [-]
Shut the **** up he said he's friends with the mom of a boy who was raped by the guy
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#234 to #201 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
oh right, let's just believe the murderer's story.

You are a ******* idiot
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#3 - zerosonaku ONLINE (07/19/2015) [-]
I don't condone the murder of another human being. however, if said human being is a KNOWN child molester, it is probably one of the better things to do.
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#198 to #3 - darcnessvoorhees (07/19/2015) [-]
I have a firm belief that crimes should be treated eye for an eye, a murderer should be killed, rapists should be raped (got enough criminals in jail to do that for us) and serial killers should be killed....slowly...tortuously, kept alive only to watch themselves die. But again only those who deserve it
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User avatar #313 to #198 - moldybreadcrumb (07/20/2015) [-]
Yeah! Flashers should be flashed too!
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#316 to #313 - DrOhcysp (07/20/2015) [-]
some may be ok with this
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#236 to #198 - dillweed (07/19/2015) [-]
Screw you this guy deserves a medal
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User avatar #311 to #198 - jovanlisac (07/20/2015) [-]
"an eye for an eye makes whole world blind"
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#324 to #311 - captainreed ONLINE (07/20/2015) [-]
then we will kill each other in brail
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User avatar #378 to #311 - pokemonstheshiz (07/20/2015) [-]
"But what about the last guy? All he has to do is hide behind a bush! Ghandi was wrong" - Seven Psychopaths
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User avatar #375 to #311 - ninjaspartan (07/20/2015) [-]
Pretty sure I'd still be able to see from my other eye.
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#373 to #311 - anon (07/20/2015) [-]
That quote is stupid and wrong.
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User avatar #374 to #373 - ilovehitler (07/20/2015) [-]
Or, yknow, you're too simple to understand the truth behind it.
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User avatar #354 to #311 - vexille (07/20/2015) [-]
Then whoever loses their eyes first will no longer be able to hurt anyone anymore.
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#237 to #198 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
rapists being raped isn't the best idea... most of them might enjoy it, and some of them would be too strong to really rape.
Also apparently I've raped a bunch of women by saying "hi" to them, so I don't want a ton of people walking up and raping me.
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#326 to #237 - darcnessvoorhees (07/20/2015) [-]
I did say people who deserve it, the crime still has to be proven
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User avatar #381 to #198 - thinemother (07/20/2015) [-]
People do get wrongly accused you know. So what if a man gets found guilty of a rape he didn't commit.
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#343 to #198 - assantum (07/20/2015) [-]
That sucks for anyone wrongly accused of any of those crimes!
As does happen..
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#358 to #343 - darcnessvoorhees (07/20/2015) [-]
That's why you need more than just somebodies word that something happendd
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User avatar #44 to #3 - thatonesmartdude (07/19/2015) [-]
You "don't condone the murder of another human being."
Simple: Child molesters should not be considered humans.

Seriously, if I had the political influence, I would try to make it law that convicted child molesters lose the title of "human being" when it comes to their interactions with government and society. As a result, killing a child molester would not count under the definition of murder.
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User avatar #52 to #44 - stinkyhat (07/19/2015) [-]
The problem is not making such a law, it's false positives. As it is with child molesters, there is with rapists. When you can just point a finger at someone to ruin a life, **** can get out of hand very fast.

And now you would have replied "Well, I only meant the ones whom we know for sure" -- but that's not really what you meant with your post. You don't have and will never have political power because you don't seem to understand how problem solving works and the first thing you come up with for a solution, is to deal with a very real, very serious problem without thinking of the consequences when it backfires are creates two more.
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User avatar #77 to #52 - thegoblingamer ONLINE (07/19/2015) [-]
To people like that it's all about saying something to immediately gain recognition. He'd actually do well with voters because the majority of people don't have the sense, like you, to say "Hey, wait. You're stupid."
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#359 to #77 - anon (07/20/2015) [-]
Idealogically, he might make it, but financially? Hell no. Unless you're extremely wealthy, politics is impossible to enter nowadays.
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#74 to #52 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
If you wanna formulate a political agenda around this idea go for it.
I'll be waiting for your 10,000 page outline with it's required 127 loop holes and 32 tax cuts for dolphin farmers in Idaho.
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#109 to #44 - stalini (07/19/2015) [-]
>Seriously, if I had the political influence
And you will never have it because you have dumb teenagerish thoughts
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User avatar #82 to #44 - srskate (07/19/2015) [-]
But you're just demonizing the other. To solve a problem you need to actually look at its source. You could make mental health programs for pedophiles more available and accessible in order to try to help people with a mental illness, or you could just declare them "undesirables" and have them executed. like hitler.
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User avatar #112 to #44 - potatot ONLINE (07/19/2015) [-]
thats a terrible ******* idea
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User avatar #229 to #44 - waterbottlemanboy (07/19/2015) [-]
And then hide, when it immediately goes South, because of your horrifically childish idea for dealing with serious criminals, an idea clearly designed without the slightest semblance of foresight. With how many people are already falsely accused of Rape and Molestation, let's take away one of the last things protecting them, and give new rights to the least fit individuals for the task, so many innocents killed, so little murderers convicted. But what'll happen to you, when you're seen directly responsible for the deaths of thousands? The child molesters barely killed their victims, and they were all murdered, so you must also be worthy of the same punishment, if not much, much worse.
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User avatar #97 to #44 - hetzerdk (07/19/2015) [-]
another problem is you are considered a child molester in front of the law if you **** a underage girl after she lied to you about the age. I dont want to sound protective for childmolesters, but i imagined just myself in my described case.
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User avatar #76 to #3 - rhetoricalfunny (07/19/2015) [-]
Can you really call a child molester human?
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User avatar #118 to #76 - ilovehitler (07/19/2015) [-]
Yes. Doing otherwise makes it too easy to forget that everyone is capable of awful things.
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User avatar #205 to #118 - sachonebeef (07/19/2015) [-]
I agree with you, ilovehitler...
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User avatar #150 to #76 - minorian (07/19/2015) [-]
Totally depends. There's the sick ***** who kidnap children for pure pleasure, and even those that make a trade in it, but there's also the people, who actually have a mental problem, and should be treated with treatment instead of pure punishment. How much blame would you put on a person with OCD for the environmental damage, because he/she can't stop washing his/her hands?
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User avatar #225 to #150 - hoponthefeelstrain (07/19/2015) [-]
it's actually pretty common for children who are continually molested to grow up and become molesters because that's what they feel like all sex is supposed to be.
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User avatar #277 to #247 - hoponthefeelstrain (07/20/2015) [-]
Retrospective clinical case note review of 843 subjects attending a specialist forensic psychotherapy centre.

"Results Among 747 males the risk of being a perpetrator was positively correlated with reported sexual abuse victim experiences. The overall rate of having been a victim was 35% for perpetrators and 11% for non-perpetrators. Of the 96 females, 43% had been victims but only one was a perpetrator. A high percentage of male subjects abused in childhood by a female relative became perpetrators. Having been a victim was a strong predictor of becoming a perpetrator, as was an index of parental loss in childhood."

bjp.rcpsych.org/content/179/6/482

being sexually abused does not cause someone to sexually offend and that the majority of boys who are sexually abused do not go on to commit abuse.
www.livingwell.org.au/managing-difficulties/addressing-the-victim-to-offender-cycle/

it's a pretty controversial topic because it's nature vs. nurture. Where they raised this way or are they simply twisted/handicapped people born this way.
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#283 to #277 - noutvissers (07/20/2015) [-]
You actually showed up with references and proper education.
Well done hoponthefeelstrain for not being a total cunt.

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User avatar #286 to #283 - hoponthefeelstrain (07/20/2015) [-]
thnx when I made the original comment it was just something we talked about in a pscyh class, there's no definitive proof as some studies find correlation and others don't, insisting that child molesters are just plain and simple bad people. So people can really take from it what they want.
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User avatar #288 to #277 - lateday (07/20/2015) [-]
Thanks for answering. I figured as most psychosocial phenomena, there's way too much factors to account for to be completely certain about one cause.
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User avatar #296 to #288 - hoponthefeelstrain (07/20/2015) [-]
yea of course. that whole "the same water that boils the potato hardens the egg" saying is true, it really depends on the person. The ones molested could have turned out to be molesters no matter what. But you weren't being a dick asking for a citation, it's a really cool topic to want info on and fair to be skeptical, honestly I wish this site would ask for citations more often.
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User avatar #266 to #247 - lordogames ONLINE (07/20/2015) [-]
pretty commonly known*
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User avatar #265 to #247 - lordogames ONLINE (07/20/2015) [-]
Honestly, in this context, you wouldn't really need the citation. I feel as though it's pretty common for those types of things to happen (Get bullied, become the bully) so it's the same principle, just in a different way.
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User avatar #287 to #265 - hoponthefeelstrain (07/20/2015) [-]
I actually provided some citations if you want to read up on it.
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User avatar #292 to #287 - lordogames ONLINE (07/20/2015) [-]
Nah, I would assume it's just the same affect of the oppressed becomes the oppressor. But that's respectable you gave the citations that were asked for.
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#231 to #76 - thehistorylover (07/19/2015) [-]
**thehistorylover used "*roll picture*"**
**thehistorylover rolled image**Yes. Humanity does not equal goodness. You can be a child molester and still be a human. You'd just be an evil example of humanity.
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User avatar #95 to #76 - stealingbikes (07/19/2015) [-]
I sure as **** don't.
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User avatar #139 to #95 - labree (07/19/2015) [-]
>>#118
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User avatar #185 to #76 - amuter (07/19/2015) [-]
Yes, "human" is nothing but a technical term tho.
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User avatar #86 to #3 - redknull (07/19/2015) [-]
We have enough people in the world, molesters, killers, inbreds, let em die.
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User avatar #102 to #86 - muffincannibal (07/19/2015) [-]
Aw come on man! Daenerys Targaryen is inbred. And she sure as hell can't die yet.
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User avatar #138 to #102 - minorian (07/19/2015) [-]
She's beautiful, has dragons, a powerful plot line, is fighting for a greater good, but I still can't seem to give a damn about her. I think her story line is boring, and that she doesn't actually feel like a good person at all. Whenever she opens her mouth, she sounds like an arrogant child that just wanna get what she wants all the time.

Nothing beats the **** tier-ness of Bran's story line tho. When that old fart said "YOU WILL NEVER WALK AGAIN... BUT YOU WILL FLY", **** sounds like it's a line from a stoner comedy
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#239 to #138 - averagewhitekid (07/19/2015) [-]
I straight up almost pissed myself laughing at the BUT YOU WILL FLY line
I love me some GOT, and some of the stories are amazing, but god damn Bran's has not been one of them
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User avatar #244 to #239 - minorian (07/19/2015) [-]
Me too, man, me too. I initially hated Bran for his story line, but now I just see it as a comedic break.

Also, people have told me that what he meant by that was that Bran would learn to warg into birds. How ******* misleading is that? We already now he is the best Warg they have heard of, because of his ability to control humans, so wasn't it already obvious that he could control freakin' birds too? Not even mentioning that if that's him flying, then it must also be him walking, when in landbound animals. Then again, it's better than him actually doing the superman, while his legs flap behind him. I was hoping for him to get a dragon of his own, or some other cool mystical creature to aid him.
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User avatar #254 to #244 - averagewhitekid (07/19/2015) [-]
I'm thinking he takes over one of the dragon's minds whenever they roll up on Westeros, but I dunno
It would be pretty fukin gay to just have it end up being birds. Unless its like a huge flock of birds, like thousands of them. Then it might be pretty swagadeliumptious
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User avatar #256 to #254 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
Perfect ending; Bran wargs into Drogon and bites Daenerys' head off, while just at the same time, the other two dragons rip him in two
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User avatar #262 to #256 - averagewhitekid (07/20/2015) [-]
Then, Tyrion gets on one of those dragons, rides to castle black and finds a revived Jon Snow, and the two of them end up ruling on the iron throne for the rest of time. With Davos and Bronn as their King's guard of course.
Oh and Cersei gets shot with a canon to the cunt
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User avatar #268 to #262 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
That sounds ******* perfect, but you can't forget about Podrick gettin' all the bitches, bruh

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User avatar #270 to #268 - averagewhitekid (07/20/2015) [-]
Oh **** yeah, how could I forget that glorious ************
Yeah he gets to **** Brienne in the end as well. 5 bucks on it
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User avatar #272 to #270 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
That's a sex scene that will cause even more outrage than when Sansa got raped. Jesus Christ, how horrifying to even think about, but God damnit do they deserve each other. Maybe the only 100% "pure" characters in the show.

Oh, man, I wanna see the Hound again so badly. He might just be my favorite character.

Also, a question: what do you think of Arya? Her quips with the Hound and Jaqen H'ghar was some of my favorite moments in the series, but I think it's way too serious now, and a bit irrelevant to the main plot, and I was really disappointed, when her relationship with Jaqen turned out to just be with some random dude.
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User avatar #290 to #272 - averagewhitekid (07/20/2015) [-]
Brienne really needs to have someone get up in that womanhood, and its either gonna be Pod or Jaime, and I dunno if Jaime is gonna actually make it to the end in my opinion.

I really want to see him again, he was really enjoyable to watch. I started this series literally just last week, so I had a lot of things spoiled for me, but his "death" was not one of them and that really disappointed me I genuinely hope there was a Maester behind that rock.

In my opinion, Ayra's story was my favorite all the way up until the last few episodes. I hoped that they had actually gone somewhere with that whole plot line at the house of the many faced god, but instead its been super slow. Jaqen isn't some random dude tho, pretty sure he is just the many faced god and his relationship with Ayra will still keep happenin in the next season. I hope she doesn't just end up being blind for the rest of the show or I will be sincerely pissed off.
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User avatar #310 to #290 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
So, you're up to date?? There's a few spoilers from last episode of season 5 in my comment, so care

Brienne 100p has Stannis trapped in some cave as her sex slave. Bitch was mad for his brother, so why not get the 2nd best thang?

Hmm, interesting theory, that Jaqen was actually the Many Faced God himself. I don't think so, sadly. I think it was just a "random" assassin that wore that particular "mask". That's exactly what made me sad; I was so ready for that assassin/apprentice relationship between Jaqen and Arya, but the mentor turned out to be a random dude and instead of having a fun mentor/student relationship, she's just getting all the fun sucked out of her by some S&M cunts with no humor
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User avatar #314 to #310 - averagewhitekid (07/20/2015) [-]
Oh yeah up to date, I just meant that a lot of things were spoiled for me since I waited so long haha

I am really betting on Stannis being alive as well. I think that he goes back to Castle Black, tells Davos what he and the Lady in Red did to his daughter, and then Davos shanks the **** out of both of them

I just think that he is controlling multiple beings and wearing whatever faces he wants, so that he is looking like Jaqen the whole time, but he has been the same guy underneath everyone he controls. But yeah, I was hoping that he would start training her to be a badass for season 6. Instead it looks like we'll be waiting till season 7 to see any big moves from her.
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User avatar #317 to #314 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
I was kinda 50/50 on Stannis being alive, when I saw the episode, but everyone else seems to believe he is alive and have pretty compelling arguments.

You did see how Arya learned how to use those "faces" too, right? They just use it to disguise themselves. I really don't think he will be personified, but maybe you're right. Now add to that training that she is blind now. Unless she gets some supernatural gift, I don't see how she will be relevant again for a long time, unless they do some kind of fast-forward **** for season 6. Maybe that's why they chose an actor that's way older than Arya is supposed to be.
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User avatar #388 to #317 - averagewhitekid (07/20/2015) [-]
Yeah once I saw that Brienne kinda thought about it for a second, and then it cut before she finished her swing, I just felt like he might make it. But I mean, I could just be dumb and he's definitely dead haha

Well yeah, but it seems like it would be kinda weird that all of those different "no ones" would have the same face of Jaqen and all remember the girl from before. I could see there being one episode where she goes through some trails as blind, and then at the end he'll give her sight back or something like that. But we'll see. They kinda skip ahead days, weeks, and months between some scenes, so I could see her coming back before the mid season.
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User avatar #389 to #388 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
I think you are right. There's no other reason that they wouldn't make a huge deal out of it... and as my sister said, if someone is gonna die in GoT, you are ******* gonna see it on camera. When did you last see a character death off-screen in GoT?

But he didn't have that face, when she first met him. I think the guy picked that face, because he knew she would be familiar with it, so as to ease her passage into the guild, or whatever you would call it.

Also, I don't know how much you know about the actors, but Arya's actor is actually FOUR years older IRL than in the series, and considering there hasn't been any sex scenes with her, and stuff like that, I can only see the reason as being that we are gonna see a flash forward of several years, but maybe they just felt the actor was great for the role regardless of age

Arya becoming a blind assassin sounds ******* awesome too, but that's gonna limit her number of "faces" to use, so yeah
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User avatar #393 to #389 - averagewhitekid (07/20/2015) [-]
Yeah, I really can't think of the last off-screen death of note. I suppose Myrcella kinda counts, but I mean you really saw her dying anyways with no hope of getting saved, so its whatev. Other than that, I can't think of a single major off screen death.

Fair point. Regardless I still think he is just one entity across all the no ones

Yeah I could see the series flashing forward a bit, but we'll have to wait and see.

I'm thinkin its gonna be like some big bunch of trails to make her so good she can do it blind, and then he gives her the sight back. Once again tho, just gotta wait and see. Pretty sure she is one of Martin's more favorite characters, so I doubt he is going to throw her to the side.
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User avatar #416 to #393 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
I think Arya's gonna stay around too, since George really has a thing for kids.

You can't count on what happens in the book at all tho. Jaime doesn't even go to Dorne, and Myrcella is actually saved by the queen of Dorne, who in turn loses her ear; a character that isn't even in the series.

I hope Arya stays blind, and that she doesn't join the order of the May Faced God. What I really like about Arya is that she is such a free rebel without that generic teenage rebellion **** . Having her tied down to such a strict order would ruin a lot of her character I think. It was already a pain in the ass seeing her just sweeping floors and bathing dead people for a whole season
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User avatar #417 to #416 - averagewhitekid (07/20/2015) [-]
Well yeah you already heard from Jaqen himself that the girl is never going to become no one because she doesn't want to become no one. But, I do think he likes her enough that he will restore her sight and allow her to leave the order. I don't think he ever had any plans to make her stay, since he knew she wasn't there to stay but to learn to kill her enemies.
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User avatar #257 to #256 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
Also, Olly gets raped by the Mountain in the background. Gotta stay to the topic of the original post!
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User avatar #267 to #257 - averagewhitekid (07/20/2015) [-]
Then The Hound comes out of no where and kills them both in the act, then proceeds to grab a few nearby chickens for a stew
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User avatar #245 to #244 - minorian (07/19/2015) [-]
*mythical creature

Well, I guess mystical creature works too, lol
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User avatar #318 to #138 - muffincannibal (07/20/2015) [-]
I like her, but you can't expect someone who was has abandonment issues, and was abused from a young age to be perfect. Although I think she will mature and expand her knowledge, after all she's like 16 or 15 at this point.
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User avatar #319 to #318 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
She's supposed to be 20 in season 5, bro. That's one of reasons I have this opinion; from season 1-3, I just saw her as a teenage girl with a whole lot of pressure on her shoulders, and how she would learn to deal with that, but she had been a leader for 5 years in the series, and she still acts like a spoiled little princess.
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User avatar #349 to #319 - muffincannibal (07/20/2015) [-]
How many mature 20 year old chicks do you know?
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User avatar #350 to #349 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
You got a point, but I still think she behaves worse than even the average 20 year old I know, and she has been leading people for 5 years. It seems like she is unable to see things from any perspective than her own, unless it's totally cut out for her. I was looking forward to seeing this girl become a women leading people, but I don't see any other character development than her being increasing stubborn and arrogant
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#325 to #319 - lazragoon (07/20/2015) [-]
The books start when she's like 12, but obviously we can't have a massive man ******* a 12 year old.
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User avatar #328 to #325 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Daenerys_Targaryen

She's still 20 years old in the series. If they are gonna change the age, they should change her maturity too. There's absolutely no reason for them to stay true to her annoying teenage nature in the book, if they have already changed her actual age, and they change huge plot points from the book all the time anyway
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#370 to #328 - muffincannibal (07/20/2015) [-]
I still like her.
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User avatar #391 to #370 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
BUT UR WRONG, SHE B CUNTFACE NUMERO UNO
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User avatar #395 to #391 - muffincannibal (07/20/2015) [-]
So you're saying that I 'don't like her?'
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User avatar #415 to #395 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
Yes. You actually think she's a cunt too. You just don't know it yet. Trust me, I am an expert on your opinions
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#330 to #328 - lazragoon (07/20/2015) [-]
I agree in some ways, but she has been enormously abused and sheltered, a bit of suspended belief at her age is little to ask.
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User avatar #331 to #330 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
Totes McGotes, but it doesn't seem to be the focus, so she just comes off as an annoying cunt. Even with that in focus, I don't see the entertainment value in her story either way. If she had some kind of character development, other than becoming more stubborn, it would be different, but she doesn't seem to have.
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#333 to #331 - lazragoon (07/20/2015) [-]
I've started reading the books, so maybe I'm not the best person to debate this with. But so far I've quite enjoyed her. Planning on watching the season though, I'll definitely watch out for it.
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User avatar #334 to #333 - minorian (07/20/2015) [-]
I don't know anything about her in the books, other than she is much younger, so she might be a totally different person in those. At least she's younger, so her situation is much more understandable. Besides, you literally know nothing about her prior to meeting Drogo in the series
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#146 to #102 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
Daenerys is the result of what the norm for royal families to do during the time period Game of Thrones takes place. Also, I don't think that he's saying to kill the people who were born of inbreeding, but rather kill people who are ******* their sisters and family members
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User avatar #187 to #86 - amuter (07/19/2015) [-]
I wouldn't compare inbreds to molesters and killers.

They're just genetically unhealthy, sterilization so that their genes don't harm future generations the way it has done so to them is a better option if you really want something done with them.
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User avatar #15 to #3 - rhiaanor (07/19/2015) [-]
It's not murder if it's the removal of trash.
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User avatar #16 to #15 - iwillrulenorway (07/19/2015) [-]
although I would agree in this particular situation, thinking of certain people as trash is a slippery slope
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User avatar #35 to #16 - pkman (07/19/2015) [-]
If a person doesn't value the lives of others then should we value their life?
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User avatar #79 to #35 - thegoblingamer ONLINE (07/19/2015) [-]
"If a person doesn't value the lives of others then should we value their life?"
Dude. That made absolutely zero sense and is entirely hypocritical.
Person A doesn't value lives, so let's not value their life, much like how we were complaining about them not valuing anyone else's. Isn't logic great?
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User avatar #36 to #35 - iwillrulenorway (07/19/2015) [-]
because we're not monsters like them, or at least we try our best not to be
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#75 to #36 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
Sooo... We talking about another Colosseum full of convicted murders and rapists?
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User avatar #18 to #16 - rhiaanor (07/19/2015) [-]
Just because they're human doesn't mean they're worth anything. There is enough of us to sacrifice the worthless garbage among us.
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User avatar #147 to #18 - labree (07/19/2015) [-]
see we start doing that. then we start killing ALL the criminals
then we start killing people we just THINK are wrong
then we start killing people who dont believe in the same things as we do

and in a matter of 20-40 years that one statement has wiped out 70% of the population and anarchy insues

slippery slope
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User avatar #152 to #147 - thegoblingamer ONLINE (07/19/2015) [-]
Ahahahahahah. Exactly.
I can't stop myself from eating a whole bag of chips. I could never trust people with that kind of power .
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User avatar #156 to #152 - labree (07/19/2015) [-]
if i had full political power i probably wouldnt even be able to stop myself from doing all kinds of crazy **** . thats why i will probably never go into a political system of any sort.

its the reason why our political system is split in 3 seperate areas and in order to get a law passed it has to go through 2 of them i think, i dont really care about politics and we have members of all sides except for the harmful ones in our politics
sure its slow, but its the reason that crazy communist **** like hitler doesnt happen
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User avatar #160 to #156 - thegoblingamer ONLINE (07/19/2015) [-]
Oh yea. I like to think I'd be better than most if I had power because I recognize that it'd be bad for me to have.
I'd probably just do selfish things that don't really affect others.
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User avatar #337 to #147 - discarding (07/20/2015) [-]
You really like to argue don't you? I see you a lot
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User avatar #338 to #337 - labree (07/20/2015) [-]
yea a little bit.

mostly when people dont know what they are talking about.
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User avatar #339 to #338 - discarding (07/20/2015) [-]
I think I may agree with you at this point. I'm not so quick to assume the man that was killed was a child molester merely because his murderer said so.

In any case, I myself don't talk much, but I do see your icon around a lot. I think the most memorable time was during a debate on er...foreskin removal, I think?
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User avatar #342 to #339 - labree (07/20/2015) [-]
yea. i remember that. good times.
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User avatar #213 to #147 - iwillrulenorway (07/19/2015) [-]
I'm not talking about the slippery slope fallacy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope but rather that when a nation starts considering a group or class of it's people as subhuman or nothing more than beasts, bad things happen.

do they deserve it? some of them yes. I know when I hear about a pedophile in the news, I want rip his throat out with my teeth and ********* him with a hammer if that was legal/socially acceptable I probably would but I don't simply because if I could do that to people I think need to die, others who have differing opinions from me might, for example, decide that faggots are subhuman, immoral trash. and then demands the government to torture/kill them or hand them out so they can do it themselves.

and while both of those things are far from happening I think that's a good thing.
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User avatar #214 to #213 - labree (07/19/2015) [-]
that is the slippery slope fallacy though

if you can kill someone for raping someone
then whats to stop someone from killing someone for being gay

but yea i agree with you
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User avatar #228 to #214 - iwillrulenorway (07/19/2015) [-]
but hey, right now we do hear about paedophiles getting brutally murdered by fathers who catch them, and that's practically legal, at least they get heavily reduced sentences from people in the court who sympathise with them. and they certainly don't get and backlash from the community. some of them even got plenty of support.

so that specific situation isn't so bad in my opinion.

but you're right when it comes to my other comment, just because something applies in one situation doesn't meant It applies all of them.
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User avatar #170 to #147 - rhiaanor (07/19/2015) [-]
But what we are doing as a species, is allowing the garbage to live confortably in a prison, while innocents rot in hunger in other countries unlike our own.

Is being "humane" really right if it means giving more to criminals than to the needy?
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User avatar #173 to #170 - labree (07/19/2015) [-]
>while innocents rot in hunger in other countries unlike our own.
not just innocents
criminals rot in hunger in other countries too

>Is being "humane" really right if it means giving more to criminals than to the needy?
yes. it is. we arent animals and the moment we stop seeing ANYONE as anything less then a human or something we can just kill off like its nothing, its a slippery slope that leads to exactly what i said. suddenly its not just rapists, its embezzlers, its all criminals, its people of other religions, its people who do minor shoplifting.
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User avatar #174 to #173 - rhiaanor (07/19/2015) [-]
If people have any control over themselves that wouldn't happen, but I suppose that would be too trusting of the masses. They say that a crowd has the mentality of a 5 year old.
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User avatar #175 to #174 - labree (07/19/2015) [-]
the issue is with who is going to make the call to kill someone

if we give it to the masses then no one is going to get killed. because there are always people who believe death is immoral, and a jury is a collection of people. not just 1

if we give to 1 person then who replaces that person when they die?what are we going to vote?because that is yet again giving it to the masses
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User avatar #281 to #170 - bultar ONLINE (07/20/2015) [-]
What? Shut the **** up. Those are two different problems that you're trying to blanket. Poverty and crime are related, but Pedophiles and Poverty are not.
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User avatar #279 to #18 - bultar ONLINE (07/20/2015) [-]
To what end?
"If we kill undesirables we wont have undesirables."
Except there's always been people like that, since the dawn of humanity and will be tillt he very end, even in a Utopian setting.
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User avatar #80 to #18 - thegoblingamer ONLINE (07/19/2015) [-]
I don't think you understand the whole "slippery slope" thing.
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#46 to #15 - vladhellsing (07/19/2015) [-]
NOOOO! Not my anime!
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#215 to #46 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
GOD DAMN IT CANA STOP DRINKING ALL THE BEER
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User avatar #278 to #15 - bultar ONLINE (07/20/2015) [-]
Right, unless that trash is a person. You're not solving anyone's problems, here.
You do realize that given the right circumstance everyone, even you, is capable of amazingly disgusting and awful things.

Deeming someone "non-human" for something they've done is makes people lose sight of the fact that yeah this person is a human being and so are you. you should know that.
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User avatar #89 to #3 - theclaymore (07/19/2015) [-]
Kudos to this guy. I wish someone had killed the guy who Admitted to molesting me and then got off Not Guilty. He is a model and hero to us all.
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User avatar #197 to #89 - YourLordAndMaster (07/19/2015) [-]
If he confessed how was the verdict Not Guilty?
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User avatar #207 to #197 - theclaymore (07/19/2015) [-]
To this day me and my father don't know. Read what happened below. It's a nightmare and impossible to me.
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User avatar #221 to #207 - YourLordAndMaster (07/19/2015) [-]
Ahh I see now. I'm sorry that happened to you but he will get what he deserves. Time is a bitch and everyone gets their due eventually.
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User avatar #357 to #221 - theclaymore (07/20/2015) [-]
Thank you. Hopefully that is true
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User avatar #193 to #89 - leprechaunne (07/19/2015) [-]
Wait what
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User avatar #194 to #193 - theclaymore (07/19/2015) [-]
I didn't segue lol. The guy who molested me when I was a kid admitted he did it and still got Not Guilty when I took him to court 10 years later. I was saying I wish someone had killed him but instead his mom (my aunt) felt sorry for him and took him in. I wish someone had killed him like this guy killed the molester in question.
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User avatar #195 to #194 - leprechaunne (07/19/2015) [-]
Did he get a guilty this time?
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User avatar #196 to #195 - theclaymore (07/19/2015) [-]
No, I didn't take him back to court after they gave him not guilty. he confessed in a text message and I screen shot it and brought it to court. His lawyer said i could've photo shopped it and my dates didn't match up with when he moved but I was a kid when it happened and he was like 19 so I didn't know all the dates and stuff of when he was moving in and out of our house. Because of that they gave him not guilty. Then my dad called my aunt who said she knows the guy did it and that he confessed AGAIN but still nothing. so i gave up
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User avatar #200 to #196 - leprechaunne (07/19/2015) [-]
Sounds like it wouldn't be hard to get a recorded confession, he's obviously not careful. It's hard to live with that
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User avatar #204 to #200 - theclaymore (07/19/2015) [-]
Yeah. I guess that's a good idea. He moved away though so idk how I'd get near him. But if I could I honestly think I'd have no self control and hurt him. Just when I thought it couldn't get worse I faced a different type of defeat and humiliation in the court room when his lawyer said "she just wants attention, that's what children like her would do" and right after the judge dismissed everyone I was standing there crying and he told his lawyer "thanks for getting me off the hook I owe you" and she stood there shocked because she realized he'd done it. I don't want to try to get him in court again, it opens all the wounds. Sorry just like vented here lol the power of being anonymous online is soothing
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User avatar #148 to #3 - pillowmeister (07/19/2015) [-]
remember
murdering is not the exact same to killing
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#293 to #3 - JackThePornKing (07/20/2015) [-]
I DO condone the murder of another human being, and I approve of this dissenter.
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#108 to #3 - stalini (07/19/2015) [-]
So you do condone murder of another human being, just not in all cases.
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User avatar #20 to #3 - badgoodass ONLINE (07/19/2015) [-]
The problem with that is that there are cases where people get killed because someone said they're a child molester without actual proof
It's easy to ruin someone's life with that, so imo as long as your jurisdicial system isn't known for corruption it's innocent until proven guilty
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#64 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
i disagree, rather than killing him and spending years in jail he could have spent those years stalking him and catch him in act so police can jail him with proof, it is also possible he killed an innocent man
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#65 to #64 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
you don't kill a man if you're not 100% sure hes guilty
plus catch him in action, aka taking another victim? no, that's why batman is a villain, he doesn't kill one person to end thousands of murders
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User avatar #155 to #65 - fukkendragonite (07/19/2015) [-]
You do if you're a psychopath, which he may well be considering his lack of remorse or mental depreciation.
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User avatar #356 to #65 - rhc (07/20/2015) [-]
People are 100% sure of many things, but absolute confidence in an idea has nothing to do with whether it's true or not.
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#422 to #65 - anon (08/01/2015) [-]
"you don't kill a man unless your 100% sure he's guilty"

Wait so murder is completely ok because it's always justified in all cases? would you be so kind to let all the murders out and hand them weapons as a peace offering, remember if they kill you it's because you were 100% guilty.
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#230 to #64 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
I don't think that evidence acquired while staking someone would be admissible. Could be wrong on that though.
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User avatar #69 to #64 - BerryLicious (07/19/2015) [-]
So another kid gets raped just so police have more proof than they already had? Nah. Kill the ****** .
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#71 to #69 - lolollo (07/19/2015) [-]
Or you wait until its about to happen, and then have gotten there "just in time" to make a citizens arrest, where he can then testify in court.
Or you wait until its about to happen, and then have gotten there "just in time" to make a citizens arrest, where he can then testify in court.
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#73 to #71 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
It'd never work out.
You'd show up too late or too early.
Better to rid the world of filth than let it sit.
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User avatar #78 to #69 - distortedflare ONLINE (07/19/2015) [-]
he later hears that the kids said they made it up and fell guilty for a man dying for their lies. Cause kids never lie about serious **** .
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#7 - pokemonstheshiz (07/19/2015) [-]
This is literally the opposite of what the justice system is supposed to be. An individual should never be allowed to make that sort of judgement. The whole design is to ensure that judgement is decreed by a reasonably unbiased representative group of society. Not let some guy be the sole decider of another's life. What, the DA didn't have enough evidence to at least jail the accused, but this guy somehow just "knows" he did it so he should be allowed to kill him? Will some people not get the punishment they deserve with this system? Obviously, there's unfortunately no perfect system. However, these flaws are the price we pay to not allow people to just murder others based on whatever "evidence" they've deemed fit.

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#238 to #7 - usaisnotamerica (07/19/2015) [-]
I don't think anybody is trying to say that this is socially correct or that he shouldn't get jail for it. It just shows that this guy doesn't regret it because he feels he helped other people (which may be right). On the other hand, if he's complaining about his years in prison then that's a whole other thing I don't know about.
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#421 to #7 - ddoggdiggity (07/21/2015) [-]
This will probably be our downfall people will get tired of the leaders of the world and is not gonna end well
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#28 to #7 - walmartysnextghost (07/19/2015) [-]
Technically this is exactly how a Justice system is supposed to work. Basically every person on earth starts out with the right to do anything they're capable of doing to another person, and we join a legal entity to attach consequences to some of those actions. As a person Technically unless someone physically stops me there's nothing to prevent me from killing anybody I want except the threat of going to prison/being killed. This man decided that he was going to exercise that capability and accept the associated consequences. An ideal justice system is a numbers game specifically because it ISN'T perfect. Basically a perfect justice system automatically eliminates anyone who commits any crime because they've broken the contract they entered into by joining a society, and thereby creates maximum criminal deterent, if you're alive you've followed the rules. An IDEAL justice system has appropriate deterrents to prevent people from breaking the law and hopefully rehabilitate behavior that detracts from society, but doesn't overstep what is necessary for people to regulate themselves. This man decided that 20 years of his life was worth the elimination of that man and he gave it up. The justice system did it's job perfectly.
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#107 to #28 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
go back to your uncivilized hobble, you ******* barbarian
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#248 to #107 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
Too bad everything he said was accurate. Where in that did he say he favored vigilante justice over the current court system despite its flaws?
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User avatar #199 to #166 - relvel (07/19/2015) [-]
First Nipton, then the Strip, and now FunnyJunk. Stop following me.
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#38 to #7 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
Yes, it's the opposite of what a justice system is 'supposed' to be. But laws have to be interpreted and applied by humans, so mistakes are made. Innocent people are judged guilty while guilty men walk free. Where is the justice in that?
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#49 to #38 - pokemonstheshiz (07/19/2015) [-]
let's just remove humans from the process then

if you think allowing some random guy to decree justice is somehow less fallible, you should probably get your head checked
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User avatar #159 to #49 - labree (07/19/2015) [-]
robots?

nah im ******* with you

thats how we get skynet.
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User avatar #377 to #159 - pokemonstheshiz (07/20/2015) [-]
The image I used is from the show Psycho Pass, in which a giant computer system is used to determine guilt or innocence by analyzing a person's mental state
Spoilers: the computer system turns out to actually be run by a large number of human brains as a collective machine, confessing that only humans can determine justice, since morality is a human creation
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User avatar #390 to #377 - labree (07/20/2015) [-]
thats awesome, im gonna have to watch that.
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#227 to #49 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
No, it's completely fallible, and in a perfect world vigilantes like this man would have no place. But we don't live in a perfect world. I'm not defending this man, he still committed a crime and was punished for it. If you think the western 'justice' system isn't a complete failure, you're the one who needs to have your head checked.
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#364 to #227 - anon (07/20/2015) [-]
I totally will defend his choice. He was so sure of his conviction that he spent 17 years of his life in prison to kill a kiddy fiddler. Not a whole lot of people would take that risk, even if they were sure and this dude had walked free numerous times from other offenses.
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#362 to #227 - anon (07/20/2015) [-]
"If you don't accept my worthless opinion, then you've gotta get your head checked."
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User avatar #151 to #7 - defeats (07/19/2015) [-]
And that is why he spend 17 years in prison...
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#183 to #7 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
The justice system in America doesn't really work anyways, though. If you have enough money, you can get yourself out of a great amount situations. Just look at that rich kid who drove drunk and killed a few people. He didn't even go to prison. I'd agree with you if the justice system worked, but it doesn't.
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User avatar #186 to #7 - doctorprofessornv (07/19/2015) [-]
I was going to post something to this effect, but I'm glad to see someone else already brought the point up. I think you really hit the nail on the head.

OP, sticky this man.
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User avatar #321 to #186 - jouten (07/20/2015) [-]
seconded
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User avatar #216 to #7 - alcantara (07/19/2015) [-]
Eh, we're living in an age where a set of DNA samples, and a set of birth certificates that show the mother was 10 when she gave birth, whilst the father was 24, is not enough to prove statutory rape; the dna samples and some simple math is not enough, if you don't have someone willing to corroborate - the Justice system is far from perfect, so yes, you can know that someone is a child molestor, without a conviction to say so.

Funny story, I'm the kid they got the third DNA sample from.
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User avatar #218 to #7 - jesusisagoose (07/19/2015) [-]
on a completely unrelated note, do you know what movie the WebM is from?
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User avatar #340 to #218 - shmochra (07/20/2015) [-]
I think it's from law abiding citizen.
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User avatar #341 to #340 - jesusisagoose (07/20/2015) [-]
thanks, i believe i have seen it somewhere before
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#263 to #7 - nytor (07/20/2015) [-]
While generally speaking I'd say you're right, we really don't know the circumstances. All we know is that the DA had tons of reason to be putting this guy under heavy surveillance and was doing absolutely nothing about it. While we can't know for sure, that seems to indicate that there was some serious corruption going on.
In small rural towns the justice system can get seriously ****** up. In those communities they're used to keeping secrets and family loyalty is everything. There's a myriad of cases of it being a "public secret" that someone is engaged in some ****** up **** but they're a family member of one of few cops in the town so they're left completely alone. **** , for an example of this happening in an even bigger town, look at that Steubenville mess a few years back. It was well-known that the town's football team was constantly breaking the law and doing awful **** but it was all covered up since football was life to the people who should have been protecting the town. Things only got even sort of dealt with when a video of the football team raping a girl got put on the internet and brought outside attention to that ******** .
While I really can't condone vigilante justice, I also can't condone horrifying miscarriages of justice that arise from corruption. It's a difficult situation and one that I can't bring myself to cast judgement on without having been involved in it and knowing all the facts.
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User avatar #320 to #7 - jouten (07/20/2015) [-]
Thanks for this. That' exactly how I feel. No matter how right this man thinks he is, vigilantism is always wrong. So that man was rightfully punished.
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User avatar #8 to #7 - Silver Quantum (07/19/2015) [-]
some people are simply more driven by their own moral code and sense of justice, which doesn't always coincide with the way the system does things. like you said, there's no perfect system, so some people aren't willing to wait around for that to change. so they take justice into their own hands without any regard for their own selves and there isn't much anyone could do to educate them otherwise.
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User avatar #9 to #8 - pokemonstheshiz (07/19/2015) [-]
But by no means should we support that behavior.

Not to mention, if the dude really did molest those kids, there's very little way he wouldn't have been arrested and probably convicted. Ain't no unbiased group of peers when it comes to pedo cases
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User avatar #10 to #9 - Silver Quantum (07/19/2015) [-]
well obviously we shouldn't support it but i have a feeling our opinions wouldn't have changed the mind of someone like him to kill a known pedo
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User avatar #11 to #10 - pokemonstheshiz (07/19/2015) [-]
this comment wasn't directed at him, I doubt he is on funnyjunk
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User avatar #12 to #11 - Silver Quantum (07/19/2015) [-]
i mean the opinions of whomever
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User avatar #13 to #12 - pokemonstheshiz (07/19/2015) [-]
It's nice to seem someone use "whomever" appropriately
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#19 to #7 - kanedam ONLINE (07/19/2015) [-]
while i respectyour view, i got to say from my own experience that the justice system simply is so ****** up that it would be quite a mistake to count on it completely.

its about laws and right, and not about justice anymore.
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User avatar #37 to #19 - pokemonstheshiz (07/19/2015) [-]
I'd say it's more laws that are ****** up, not the judicial system itself
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#81 to #7 - yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (07/19/2015) [-]
The holocaust was legal so technically hitler didnt do anything wrong
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User avatar #258 to #81 - cuzsunny (07/20/2015) [-]
Legal only under Nazi law.

Because they could Nazi the error of their ways
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#114 to #81 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
the holocaust was no near from legality
auschwitz was held in secret
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User avatar #88 to #7 - yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (07/19/2015) [-]
also, I love how you made this point with the gif of a character who made a deal with a murderer / rapist to pad his case closure numbers WITHOUT CONSULTING HIS CLIENT (the victim of said murderer rapist
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User avatar #376 to #88 - pokemonstheshiz (07/20/2015) [-]
it was actually on purpose. I forgot the characters names actually, but Gerald Butler wound up showing he really had no end goal. He put up this front like he was trying to solve corruption, but after getting his revenge, all he really ended up doing was killing more innocent people. He had a point, but confused justice with his own lust for vengeance
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#32 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
probably because there wasnt any evidence that he was a kiddie fidler, the real child molester might out there having a laugh about all this
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User avatar #41 - testaburger (07/19/2015) [-]
What if he didn't do it, though?
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#66 to #41 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
what if he did though? i mean the guy was accused of multiple times and he was friends of a mom and im sure he wouldn't have gotten involved if he had the slightest doubt, you just dont kill a man without being 100% sure
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#113 to #66 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
"THIS MAN RAPED ME"
*Innocent man* "uwotm8?"
*Innocent man arrested*
*Innocent man killed by whiteknight cunts*
Anon - "the innocent man completely deserved because he could have been a rapist better safe than sorry lolololo:^)xDXD"

You're ******* retarded.
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User avatar #67 to #66 - testaburger (07/19/2015) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wrongful_convictions_in_the_United_States
It happens.

And this guy wasn't even convicted.
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User avatar #308 - charagrin (07/20/2015) [-]
I hate to be that guy, but 3 cases, no convictions, could it not be possible the guy was innocent? I am all for capital punishment once someone shows they cannot be trusted to be a part of society, but for all we, and this "hero" knows, the guy was innocent. The legal system is slow, inneficient, and does not always work, but it works far better than people wandering around randomly killing people who "may" have done something wrong.
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User avatar #345 to #308 - uwbymannen (07/20/2015) [-]
Good point. There are some things that is missing from the story which makes the reader not able to know whether his actions was right or not. He may be wrong at what he did, and he may also have been right.
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User avatar #348 to #345 - charagrin (07/20/2015) [-]
I agree completely, but if I have to choose between a man who "might" have molested some kids, or a man who DID commit cold blooded calculated murder on impulse, well....
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User avatar #29 - theluppijackal (07/19/2015) [-]
Hey this time I can actually say this is an unpopular opinion, judging by the comments below

What he did was wrong.

The death penalty does not work either to deter crime or make it cheaper on tax payers. Nor does it offer the criminal a chance to redeem himself. That's what prison should be about in America, redemption. But no, just lock them up, maybe give them a 5 hour job or whatever and let the revolving door of the prison system do its work.

That, and the whole system is set up to avoid vigilante justice. The whole system is set up to have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
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#240 to #29 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
go home, you're too smart for the internet
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#30 to #29 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
Pretty sure when we had the death penalty we had less criminals.
Because they were dead.

Prisoners don't 'redeem' themselves though. They may say they found Jesus or some **** to get out early on good behaviour but they don't actually change.
The only ones that might not re-offend are the petty criminals who decide they didn't like prison.
The murderers, rapists, pedophiles etc. don't change because there's nothing to change.

You can't lock someone in a hotel and expect them to apologize and become happy, productive members of society. And that's what prison is, it's a hotel with comfy beds, cable TV, gym equipment, college degrees, video games and such.

My father left prison as a fully qualified electrician and was given a fully furnished apartment all for free. Why would they 'reform' when they get rewarded for what they do?

Your idea of redemption doesn't work and if anything makes it worse.
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User avatar #31 to #30 - theluppijackal (07/19/2015) [-]
>Your idea of redemption doesn't work and if anything makes it worse.

That's why America has the highest re-incarceration rate in the world, right? Because we don't focus on redemption while Eurofag prisons do?

www.dropoutprevention.org/engage/incarceration-within-american-and-nordic-prisons/
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User avatar #128 to #29 - serotonin (07/19/2015) [-]
As I understand it he dint want to deter crime. He just wanted to stop serial child molester from molesting...which he (if he was really child molester) pretty much achieved by killing him
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User avatar #178 - policexplain (07/19/2015) [-]
How did he know the guy did it? If the DA had three cases on him, the guy was being investigated and charges would have eventually been filed. "Weren't doing anything" in this case means that they weren't acting as quickly as he thought they should. Well, who the **** is he? Somebody who talked to a friend and then, based only on that one piece of evidence, decided to take another man's life.

The definition of murder is the unlawful killing of another human, with malice aforethought. This is murder, 100%, cold blooded murder.
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User avatar #251 to #178 - syntheticdoll (07/19/2015) [-]
"Ye we have that guy there, he molests kids, let's wait a few days/weeks, what can go wrong during that?"
Not acting immediately risks another child to become a vixtim too.
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User avatar #384 to #251 - policexplain (07/20/2015) [-]
Maybe. It's a man who was accused of molesting children. But we don't know any facts, we only have one side of the story, which is given to us by a murderer nearly 20 years after fact.

Further, if you can't arrest somebody before you have sufficient evidence for the charges. In addition, you don't want to arrest a person until you have the greatest number of charges available. The number and severity of the charges affects the bail, which a good investigator wants to be as high as possible to prevent the guy from getting out and fleeing. Investigations of this type are often a calculated risk. If you move too soon, you tip your hand, and the bad guy gets away, if you move too slowly, the bad guy commits another crime.
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User avatar #295 to #251 - lateday (07/20/2015) [-]
I am not familiar with how the justice works in the US, but I feel it is common sense to have a man investigated for child abuse to be, at the very least, under surveillance.
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User avatar #387 to #295 - policexplain (07/20/2015) [-]
Not really. Surveillance is resource intensive and is potentially a violation of civil rights. If there is enough evidence to establish probable cause that he actually committed the crime, there's no need for surveillance, you'd just arrest the guy. Child molestation cases are difficult for many reasons, in large part because there is frequently no evidence-- aside from the testimony of a child, which often doesn't come to light until long after the fact.
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User avatar #351 - mrjweezy (07/20/2015) [-]
^^THIS IS SOCIAL JUSTICE.^^
Not that you hurt my feelings crap the media eats up.
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User avatar #414 to #351 - testaburger (07/20/2015) [-]
This is murdering a man who wasn't convicted of anything.

This is vigilantism, bordering on lynching.
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#54 - bothemastaofall (07/19/2015) [-]
This is what ******* gets me.
We see scumbags every day on Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, and the myriad of AAA movie titles and video games, and in each scenario we live for the time when bad guys get what they deserve.
Why do we not want such ****** human beings dead in real life? Evey day you root for them to die horribly on your television set. Criminals are those people in the real world, and the world would be so much better if people like molestors and mass shooters were shot on sight. Instead they're left to roam free, or have millions spent on their incarceration.
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User avatar #55 to #54 - shinyarmor ONLINE (07/19/2015) [-]
looks like braum
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User avatar #61 to #54 - infinitereaper (07/19/2015) [-]
The war on drugs is ******* stupid. Hizenberg did nothing wrong.
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User avatar #90 to #61 - bloodrocutation (07/19/2015) [-]
you mean heisenberg?
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User avatar #289 to #54 - bultar ONLINE (07/20/2015) [-]
Because Tv =/= Real life? Holy **** .
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User avatar #157 to #54 - serotonin (07/19/2015) [-]
Ordinary people are like wilder beasts and criminals are hyenas. There is like 500.000 wilder beasts for each hyena and they could straight up just exterminate hyenas if they all went after them. But no, they skulk around and when hyenas attack they are just grateful that it wasn't them that got eaten

Also there are many examples of people taking law in their own hands. In mexico ordinary people take arms and organise militias that fight drug cartels. Also in Mexico there are vigilante groups that attack and kill what they suspect are possible child molesters. Once Mexican police agent was burned alive because they saw him all the times near kindergarten watching play ground from a far. He was following one of parents but vigilantes thought he was watching kids and he was burned alive inside his car.
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User avatar #353 to #157 - fjaddictftw [OP](07/20/2015) [-]
*wildebeest
sorry, but you know now.
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User avatar #418 to #353 - serotonin (07/20/2015) [-]
Dont mind. Not native speaker and I cant bother to check every single word I say/write.
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User avatar #344 - kdawwwg (07/20/2015) [-]
i dont get to say this often but , swell with oregon pride.
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#70 - numbmind (07/19/2015) [-]
**numbmind used "*roll picture*"**
**numbmind rolled image** Without a trail for all we know he killed a innocent man...
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#116 to #70 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
AND YOU KILLED A GRAMMAR NAZI WHEN YOU SAID "A INNOCENT MAN".
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User avatar #208 to #116 - numbmind (07/19/2015) [-]
**numbmind used "*roll 1, cah question*"**
**numbmind rolls Tonights main event, _ vs. _.**
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User avatar #209 to #208 - numbmind (07/19/2015) [-]
**numbmind used "*roll 2, cah answer*"**
**numbmind rolls Projectile vomiting.**
**numbmind rolls Suicidal thoughts.**
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#181 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
"To this day, I still say I made the right decision. Some people agree with me, and other people disagree with me, but I know in my hearth that I did he right thing."
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User avatar #253 to #181 - manholefreddy (07/19/2015) [-]
Stalin did nothing wrong.
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#60 - infinitereaper (07/19/2015) [-]
See that's the problem with the world
People say things like "justice is blind" like it's a good thing.
But that's the problem
People get away with crimes, OJ and that mother, rich executives and corrupt judges.
People get jailed and imprisoned for petty crimes.
Everything is ******* sick and diseased and distorted.
And do you want to know why!?

Because justice is blind
and when ustice is blind there is no justice
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#91 to #60 - fillytickler (07/19/2015) [-]
Misinterpretation: The Post.
The phrase simply means that you won't be judged by your skin colour, sexuality, creed, race, religion, or anything else. "Lady Justice is blind" simply means she won't judge your character or who you are. To Lady Justice, you're just a name, and all she knows about you are the facts brought forth in court.

People who are guilty get away with it for two reasons. A good lawyer who manages to convince the judge to wean the sentence in exchange for something else (not money. Community service, reperation money to the family, a confession, etc), or because there's not enough evidence against them. The latter is the case with OJ and that mother (Casey Anthony?) where the former is the case with rich people. They confess and make plea bargains, because they're not idiots.
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#143 to #91 - infinitereaper (07/19/2015) [-]
I know what it is supposed to mean, I'm iterating what it actually ends up meaning.
It's word play on the phrase. "blind justice".
It really ends up being blind. I don't see any justice in that.
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User avatar #169 to #143 - timmywankenobi (07/19/2015) [-]
it seems like your real beef is with the injustice of the class system which allows rich people and women to get away with crimes.
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User avatar #177 to #169 - infinitereaper (07/19/2015) [-]
My "beef" is with injustice. Period. I don't think people understand what justice actually is anymore. If a person kills a criminal who got away it is nothing less than justice. The man in this post should be considered a hero, not a criminal.
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User avatar #210 to #177 - timmywankenobi (07/19/2015) [-]
execpt we have no evidence he killed the right person.
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User avatar #142 - Einsty (07/19/2015) [-]
From this post I read that the killed person was never convicted and is therefore considered innocent. Did it cross his mind that the person could have, even by an off chance, be actually innocent?
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User avatar #203 to #142 - idoliam (07/19/2015) [-]
Except Oregon is retarded. I lived next door to a child molester as a kid and we were a block away from my middle school. By law, a sex offender cannot live within 2000 feet of a school. There is very little supervision unless it's an extreme case.
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User avatar #161 to #142 - sanguinesolitude (07/19/2015) [-]
well given that the mother of one of the boys raped was a friend of his, the kid probably had a pretty good idea who raped him, and told.
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User avatar #302 to #161 - wthree (07/20/2015) [-]
Considering that he was a friend of the mother of one of the boys who was molested, of course he had perfect insight into the case!

Why even bother having investigations when we can just ask some guy whose a relative of teh victim for the answer?
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User avatar #305 to #302 - wthree (07/20/2015) [-]
*some guy whose a friend of a relative of the victim.
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User avatar #168 to #161 - Einsty (07/19/2015) [-]
Might have been. If a tumblr post can be believed at all that is.
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#99 - llamasattack (07/19/2015) [-]
is no one going to over the fact he looks like trevor?
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#101 to #99 - anon (07/19/2015) [-]
Hold the **** up he resembles someone else more
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#72 - ddoggdiggity (07/19/2015) [-]
Be straight up rorshach
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User avatar #176 - timmywankenobi (07/19/2015) [-]
The correct title for the post should be "injustice" since this guy kill the accused before he went to trial because he felt the police were taking too long , Also how would a civilian know the details of a on going police investigation as he claims " I knew the police were doing anything " to my knowledge the police don't discuss open cases or surveillance details with civilians especially ones so close to the accuser.

He fought the law and the law won.
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#363 - isolovegames (07/20/2015) [-]
Street justice is best justice. Stories like this give me ******* hard on's. Though I don't usually like using the term "street justice" it's very fitting for the situation.
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User avatar #366 to #363 - ellwood (07/20/2015) [-]
women give me hard ons
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