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User avatar #2 - ghm (01/22/2014) [-]
my xbox one loads **** fine. I have no idea why people act like it's **** . also I have a computer that runs **** frame rates and even ******* settings.
User avatar #271 to #2 - tkfourtwoone (01/23/2014) [-]
Well that's why people call you "special"
#75 to #2 - anonymous (01/22/2014) [-]
Unless you are dumb you can build a computer today that will run all modern games on AT LEAST medium, but more likely than not high settings for under the price of an XBO or PS4.
User avatar #202 to #75 - opticmonkey (01/23/2014) [-]
There is no way a 500$ computer could run games as well as a console. You may be able to build a computer for that price that has the same specs as a console, but the computer would be slower because there are a lot more background processes that slow the computer down.
#81 to #75 - skorchy (01/23/2014) [-]
I hate this argument right here.
I don't expect the average Joe to be able to build a computer. ******* , I know a decent amount of information about technology and I probably couldn't. Does that make me dumb? No. Different people understand different things.
#154 to #81 - icefall (01/23/2014) [-]
If you don't want to build it, pay 10 bucks to some dude to do it for you. No knowledge needed.
#6 to #2 - lycoris (01/22/2014) [-]
That means you have a ****** computer, bro.
#273 to #6 - zipptyzooptimeboop (01/23/2014) [-]
I hate to sound uneducated, but can I ask what a good computer would be? I've never really gone and checked out the specs on a computer when I've bought one, and I don't really know what to look for.    
   
I see people insulting each other while talking about various computer features and parts that I don't really get, so I've always felt a bit too embarrassed to ask.  All I really want is a crash course in how to figure out WHAT it is I want a computer to have and how to make sure what I'm getting what I want. I also have seen people talking about building a computer, and while that sounds interesting, I know nothing about that either, so I wouldn't even know where to start on something like that.
I hate to sound uneducated, but can I ask what a good computer would be? I've never really gone and checked out the specs on a computer when I've bought one, and I don't really know what to look for.

I see people insulting each other while talking about various computer features and parts that I don't really get, so I've always felt a bit too embarrassed to ask. All I really want is a crash course in how to figure out WHAT it is I want a computer to have and how to make sure what I'm getting what I want. I also have seen people talking about building a computer, and while that sounds interesting, I know nothing about that either, so I wouldn't even know where to start on something like that.
#296 to #273 - twentyandahalf (01/23/2014) [-]
What makes a "good" computer is subjective. It all depends on what you're looking for. I'll assume you want your computer to be good for playing games and break down what specs you need to be looking for.

Processor: The basic unit of processor quality is its clock rate, usually measured in GHz, or billions of processes per second. Your processor does some hard number crunching in addition to overseeing all the programs on your PC. The higher the clock rate, the faster your computer will be overall. My processor gets around 3.6 GHz. Some get more, others get less, and it's usually a tradeoff with price. For a gaming PC, I wouldn't recommend anything under 3.0.

RAM: RAM acts as a "workspace" for your computer. Any program that's running keeps its information in RAM. The more RAM you have, the more programs you can run simultaneously without encountering slowdowns or crashes. It's measured in bytes (usually gigabytes). RAM also has a "clock rate" like a processor, but all you need to make sure with that spec is that it is compatible with your motherboard. I recommend at least 4 gigabytes.

GPU, or graphics card: Graphics cards are harder to pin down in terms of performance, but again, clock rate is key. Graphics cards usually also include some amount of RAM specifically for storing graphics information. Like clock rate, the higher the better. Here's a link to relative performance of some high-end gaming graphics cards: www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html. I own an Nvidia GTX 480.

Motherboards: The motherboard is the backbone of the computer; a bunch of sockets to plug all the other components into. The biggest thing about motherboards is that they need to be compatible with all your other parts. If you buy a computer out of a box, you know the motherboard is compatible; if you're building your own, however, you need to find that out yourself.

Finally, www.newegg.com/ is your one-stop shop for anything you need to build your own computer.
User avatar #330 to #296 - Mortuus (01/23/2014) [-]
Are you enjoying your space heater, or did you put a water block on it?
#297 to #296 - twentyandahalf (01/23/2014) [-]
If you're a complete newbie ant computer building, this video is a great place to start: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw Goes over all the components, what they do, and what you should look for in a way that isn't limited to 2000 characters. If you do choose to build, be aware that an increase in performance will also be met with an increase in price. My computer (just the stuff in the case) cost somewhere around $500 - a bit more expensive than going to Best Buy and picking one up in the box - and it's a relatively tame build performance-wise. You can easily splurge well up to a couple thousand if you want the absolute cutting edge of technology in your build.

On the other hand, if building just isn't for you, go online and do your own research. Don't trust me; I'm just a random guy on the internet. Use Google to figure out what some good specs for a gaming PC should be. Make sure to visit online stores like Amazon in addition to actual retail stores. There's a deal out there waiting to be made that fits your budget and gives you the performance you need.
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User avatar #8 to #6 - ghm (01/22/2014) [-]
It works fine I just don't have a $300 video card.
User avatar #70 to #8 - mussyo (01/22/2014) [-]
Casual
User avatar #57 to #8 - lfunnymanl (01/22/2014) [-]
that's your ******* problem get a $300 video card and atleast a $200 cpu
User avatar #23 to #8 - skateabuga ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
You're just stupid then. In order to play ball you need the ball, bat, a field and much more. Beats the **** outa stick ball too.
#11 to #8 - blancka (01/22/2014) [-]
It may work fine, that doesn't make it a good computer. Your point was that the xbone is faster. It's not faster than good PCs. No console is or likely ever will be again.
#238 to #11 - anonymous (01/23/2014) [-]
xbone xD
#34 to #11 - anonymous (01/22/2014) [-]
Well, that's kinda the point isn't it? I mean when people say PC they mean good PCs, but my laptop is a PC all the same. "PC gaming" is relative to what you're willing to pay for it.
#86 to #34 - blancka (01/23/2014) [-]
If that's the point, who ever made that point probably shouldn't be around points, they'll probably get hurt.

You can't say "consoles are faster because i'm willing to spend more on a console than i am on a PC". It's been shown time and time again that shopping around you can easily get a PC that's faster than a console for cheaper, and that's not even taking into consideration that you could simply buy parts and upgrade your PC.

Seriously, did you think the point through at all? I mean, even if it cost a bit more than a console (and i do mean a bit, not a lot) it would kind of make up for itself through the games themselves being cheaper. I primarily play Mobas and MMOs on my PC, so i get a ton of value for money there, being that almost all mobas are free, and the sub MMO is a thing of the past outside of wow and final fantasy. Then there's steam sales...

With the amount of BS consoles throw at you with what you can and can't do, mandatory updates and lacklustre sales, there is no reason to get one outside of exclusives. Back when the x360 and ps3 were released, it would cost an ungodly amount of money to get a PC of such power. That's no longer the case, and likely never will be again. This isn't necessarily bad, it depends how console makers react. They basically have to pump out high quality exclusives often enough or cut the ******** and make a games console, not a media machine.
User avatar #190 to #86 - tonyxx (01/23/2014) [-]
I second this, I spent less cash upgrading my PC than I would buying the new consoles. I could run star citizen with this.
#182 to #86 - anonymous (01/23/2014) [-]
Nevertheless, a $400 PC is not a "good PC", is it? It is, however, a standard console.
#68 to #34 - xxhadesflamesxx ONLINE (01/22/2014) [-]
a lot of good games are either old enough to be run on decent machines or made by indy devs so they don't require a lot of resources here are some of them
Older total war games
Mount and blade warband
starbound/terraria/minecraft
any paradox game
etc.
#84 to #68 - dawdawdwa (01/23/2014) [-]
******* yes!
Might I also add Kerbal Space Program to the list.
#85 to #84 - xxhadesflamesxx ONLINE (01/23/2014) [-]
and with all the mods for all of those games its like buying more than 1 (depends on the amount of mods) for the price of 1
User avatar #248 to #85 - psykojet (01/23/2014) [-]
I remember seeing a Star Wars mod for one, and it looked lore correct so I am going with yes.
#301 to #248 - xxhadesflamesxx ONLINE (01/23/2014) [-]
and fuedal japan and 2 fantasy mods, and with gunpowder fantasy and new mechanics, and the british isles in the dark ages, and a lotr mod for the original mount and blade
and a hyrule mod for medieval 2 and a lotr mod with submods and stainless steel
I could go on if you want
#5 to #2 - anonymous (01/22/2014) [-]
*Cough* 720p *cough*
User avatar #9 to #5 - ghm (01/22/2014) [-]
*cough* 1080p *cough*
better frame rates than ps4, and streams in 1080p.
games that are sized up to 1080p look the same and run better than ps4.
#36 to #9 - anonymous (01/22/2014) [-]
Thou art misinformed.
#10 to #9 - blancka (01/22/2014) [-]
Except no games on it support 1080p yet, and it's lt's a weaker system than the ps4.

Seriously, both of them have **** libraries right now, but the xbone is weaker, more expensive and there was that **** MS tried to pull to basically remove any rights you had in relation to purchased games.
User avatar #324 to #10 - luciferiam (01/23/2014) [-]
Forza is 1080p 60fps ...sigh
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