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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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User avatar #1 - kierano
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Why does everyone carry a ******* knife?
#25 to #1 - anon id: 3113d5d4
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Everyone runs faster with a knife.
User avatar #57 to #1 - owemiegawd
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i carry one all the time, its a really useful tool for opening ****, and self defense should it get to that (unlikely) you know what they say, better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it
User avatar #58 to #1 - ViperTheLoud
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Everyday I've either got a Cold Steel Voyager or a Boker Automat Kalashnikov 74, depending on where I'm going. Same reason I keep a crowbar and jack in my car. They can save your dumb ass when you **** up.
User avatar #71 to #1 - thegayman
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I carry one just in case I buy something I need in the moment and can't get the packaging open
#181 to #1 - prohibullion
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I really doubt that's what they use them for, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.
I really doubt that's what they use them for, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.
#274 to #181 - anon id: ef83ee32
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You deserve more thumbs. I really enjoyed what you did there.
User avatar #276 to #274 - prohibullion
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aw shucks
thanks, anon
#11 to #1 - docvolto
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Because everyone's carrying a ******* knife.
Because everyone's carrying a ******* knife.
User avatar #190 to #11 - iamnuff
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good ******* point.

If anyone but me has a knife, then i should get one too.
#74 to #1 - tjocksnorris
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its from /b/ they're trying to be edgy, and most of these are years old
User avatar #3 to #1 - puppyfood
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Because it's a useful tool, and in last ditch effort, it can be used for self defense.
User avatar #63 to #1 - ebbiecandie
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as someone that has to walk to work, I find it comforting to carry a knife on me
#92 to #63 - anon id: 15a179b7
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people who carry knives are statically more likely to get stabbed though
#97 to #92 - anon id: b6a3c939
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People who are anons are statistically more likely to talk ******** though.
#32 to #1 - iyr
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Why wouldn't you?
#134 to #32 - shadowgandalf
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... I'm sad to say, that iin Denmark, it recently became illegal to carry knives in public.

ITT: ******* potatoe sweden politics bled off on our own.
#9 to #1 - gwailo
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#36 to #1 - myitems
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#121 to #1 - skyrmix
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#6 to #1 - tksparty
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Most of the knives there are part of a larger tool. I carry pic related about with me, today I used it fix a grills necklace.
User avatar #2 to #1 - whitelapras
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because usa is sketchy as ****
#264 to #2 - anon id: 32018e3d
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What's that sound? Oh, it's the voice of an insecure European.
User avatar #278 to #1 - XxXRoxasXxX
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Because stabbing things is helpful
#93 to #1 - aibu
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Because they're all a bunch of pussies, unable to disarm someone with weaponry, and too afraid to suckerpunch a bitch.
User avatar #161 to #93 - spearpwi
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Would genuinely enjoy watching you disarm a guy with a knife. (I've always enjoyed the colour red...)
#255 to #161 - aibu
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It's really nothing but self defense.. You learn it in both Taekwondo and Kickboxing.(the only ones I've tried)
User avatar #265 to #255 - spearpwi
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So you've never actually seen someone get attacked with a knife then, a real knife I mean? Trust me, anything they showed you about deflecting at the wrist or grabbing it when they're nice and close doesn't take in to account the fact that they're gonna squirm and twist and slash the **** out of your hands and wrists. I was being stupid in my earlier comment, please for the love of sense don't actually try to use hand to hand combat on a guy with a knife, you will bleed.
#271 to #265 - aibu
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If I shall bleed, so be it.
I DEMAND TO FIST THEE, OH UNHOLY KNIFE BITCH!
User avatar #272 to #271 - spearpwi
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Well it's your blood, just play it safe lil *****.
User avatar #252 to #1 - garymotherfingoak
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Because the person who made it only chose those pics to make it seem cooler
User avatar #19 to #1 - cozer
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Because they're useful? Who knows when you might need to stab a ****** or open an annoying package.
#8 - sinery
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>Firearm instructor/medic   
>Shoot first, ask questions later
>Firearm instructor/medic
>Shoot first, ask questions later
#128 to #8 - anon id: aecc9d9a
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shoot first, ask questions while shooting
User avatar #34 to #8 - Daeiros
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it's a good business strategy.

teach people to shoot, make money
heal the people your students shoot, make more money
User avatar #37 to #8 - imadethistopost
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*BANG*

"oh my gosh are you ok?"

"no you just ******* shot me, you ponce!"

"yes now let me help you, i'm a medic."
User avatar #96 to #37 - envinite
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Such is life in BF2 multiplayer
#4 - fatbutler
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OCD my ass, that VW key is slightly askew.
#35 to #4 - anon id: c8ee8d9c
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Also, the earplugs aren't even with each other.
#258 to #4 - malvolio
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mfw i notice
mfw i notice
User avatar #5 - samlusiewski
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Lot of knives and guns.
Plus, that librarian looks like she's going to war against hello kitty
User avatar #256 to #5 - warzon
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I'm okay with this.
User avatar #73 - metalmind
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So pretty really everybody in the USA is armed.
Seriously, that's crazy.
#107 to #73 - romanlettuce
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is this the first time you ever seen a firearm? are u gonna be ok? baby needs lullaby to calm down?
#118 to #107 - turtletroll
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Comment Picture
#119 to #118 - romanlettuce
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User avatar #120 to #119 - turtletroll
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What is your problem
User avatar #183 to #120 - toosexyforyou
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You started by calling him an edgy scrublord and then went on to say "what is your problem" when he calls you a faggot?
User avatar #185 to #183 - turtletroll
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He used a picture saying "Bunch of slack-jawed faggots around here" and then said that we're babies.

He didn't need to do that at all
User avatar #186 to #185 - toosexyforyou
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He didn't even direct that towards you? Why did you but in feel like you needed to act offended?
User avatar #187 to #186 - turtletroll
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It was directed to everyone who thinks that everyone being armed is kindof crazy.

Which is also me
User avatar #188 to #187 - toosexyforyou
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Well you're not doing your cause justice by acting like a twat. Never seen anyone but into the argument like that and acting like they're the victim.
User avatar #189 to #188 - turtletroll
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Really?

He calls most of europe faggots and pussies and I say don't be edgy and all of a sudden im the twat?
User avatar #191 to #189 - toosexyforyou
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When did he call most of Europe faggots and pussies?
User avatar #193 to #191 - turtletroll
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The first comment was a guy saying he thought it was crazy that most people carry guns.

Most people in Europe would find that crazy too. He then says were slackjawed faggots and babies that are scared to hold a gun apparently.
User avatar #196 to #193 - toosexyforyou
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Well you're a bit confused so I'll clear it up for you. Rommanlettuce called people who are irrationally scared of guns as pussies. He call you a faggot. And I'm European and calling you a bitch. Any questions?
User avatar #199 to #196 - turtletroll
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How is saying "So pretty really everybody in the USA is armed.
Seriously, that's crazy." Being a pussy?
User avatar #202 to #199 - toosexyforyou
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He took it out of context and all the anger he had built up over passed arguments led him to be outraged by a sentence.
User avatar #203 to #202 - toosexyforyou
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past*
User avatar #224 to #203 - turtletroll
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What kind of excuse is that? So you agree it was a stupid thing to say. Then you go call me a twat when you agree that what he said was dumb?

I think you're the confused one
User avatar #286 to #224 - toosexyforyou
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You seem to think that I'm either with you or against you which totally sounds like you're a girl. Quit acting like such a bitch.
User avatar #304 to #286 - turtletroll
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I think you're going a bit far with this.

I haven't done anything for you to get mad so whatever
User avatar #122 to #120 - romanlettuce
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People insulting and criticizing those they don't even know only because of their decision and initiative to arm themselves.

Losers who think like this have no concept of weapons uses and the implications of weapons carry by the general public.
User avatar #123 to #122 - turtletroll
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All he said that it's pretty crazy that so many are armed in America.

A lot of people in Europe aren't armed and it's strange to us. Don't turn this into something more then it is
#124 to #123 - romanlettuce
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You have no idea what this is. It's pathetic to see your irrational fear circle jerk over a few small handguns.

You're the retard turning this into "something more than it is" by insulting an entire country over a fun picture of EDC equipment. This was a cool post and it's being turned into a "**** america" thing.
User avatar #125 to #124 - turtletroll
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I wasn't insulting America. If I lived in America I would own a gun because everyone else does but next to nobody does here in England so I don't feel the need to own one.

Europe is very different from America so Metalmind was just saying that he finds it strange as someone from a different culture.
User avatar #126 to #125 - romanlettuce
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I'm glad to hear you would be interested in learning more about weapons in America but I think you misunderstand the tone of the original comment and it's partners on this post.

It's blatantly anti-liberty/pro-state and it's clear by looking at the popular posts here that others are teaming in to agree with those sentiments.

Unfortunately it's a popular sentiment here because you can see it manifest anytime there is an innocent EDC or tool/weapon related post.

User avatar #130 to #126 - turtletroll
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So pretty really everybody in the USA is armed.
Seriously, that's crazy.

That's all he said. You could say that not having guns are crazy and that's just what you believe and I wouldn't be offended by it

I the only gun i've ever seen is a air gun so everyone walking around with loaded weapons would be a shock to me too. It doesn't mean anything other then a culture shock that's all.
User avatar #135 to #130 - romanlettuce
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I highly doubt you'd excuse a similar remark about your country and people as "culture shock". Especially when it pertains to intrinsic human rights such as the right to self defense.

There's a rich history and science behind the reasons to carry weapons and seeing it written off as "crazy" just might be a little frustrating for people who study self defense and liberty.

Have a look at the other comments of this nature right here on this content. If you still can't see the poison that's being directed at these complete stranger's who include a firearm in their equipment then you're seeing what you want to see, not what's actually there.

#138 to #135 - turtletroll
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People have different opinions so what? Don't get offended that somebody somewhere else in the world where gun crime is virtually non existent doesn't understand the USA's standing with guns in their culture.

It doesn't effect you anyway if someone in europe disagrees. I agree that guns in America should be legal but I wouldn't let them be legal in the UK.

Different cultures.
User avatar #144 to #138 - romanlettuce
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They are against firearms ownership, a right once guaranteed in this country.

Organized force is the only thing that will prevent firearms ownership.

You might think those remarks are harmless, in your ignorance, but those remarks are direct threats of force against me and people who take responsibility for their safety here. A reasonable one would expect a reaction from a threat.

Helping to spread that "hoplophobia" or irrational "opinions" on firearms ownership is extremely dangerous.

I'm definitely not buying the "different cultures" argument either. What does that even mean? People deserve individual liberty and the right to protect their lives in every area of the world. It's clearly not my responsibility to ensure that but when I see irrational reactions and views on firearms ownership that is obviously born in ignorance I will call it out.

This is a really complex topic but it's one that is rooted in very basic human rights.
User avatar #221 to #144 - infernis
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Holy **** calm down.
Just because someone from Germany (where this guy is from) isn't used to everyone having knives and guns with them doesnt mean he's trying to take your firearms away or he's anti-gun.

I assure you, most Europeans (or anyone that's not American) don't care if and how many guns you own and what you do with them. Hell, you can shoot each other's heads all day for all we care.
User avatar #284 to #221 - romanlettuce
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You're ridiculous.
User avatar #292 to #284 - infernis
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Care to elaborate? From where I stand the ridiculous one seems to be you, for reasons explained above.
User avatar #302 to #292 - romanlettuce
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That's pretty scary that you can say that.

You just entertained the idea that me and my friends in the U.S.A. shoot ourselves in the head all day and you don't know why that might be ridiculous? maybe just a little bit?

I wish that you were right and that most didn't care about the U.S. and what we do here regarding firearms but this post alone has plenty of examples now of why that is not true at all. We're mocked and treated like idiots just when we share this post about things we carry every day. Taking the time to insult isn't really "not caring". Let alone suggested we shoot each other in the face over it.

User avatar #306 to #302 - infernis
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I did not entertain the idea nor did I suggest it, I used it as an analogy to explain how little the entire issue actually matters to us. You can trust me on that, I have never witnessed a debate about the USA and gun ownership taking place.

On the internet is a different story, because here people are actually confronted with it and can engage in discussions with Americans, who actually care about the issue.

For the most part you're not being insulted, people are just genuinely not used to this concept and it's hard to grasp for an European and understandably worries (for a lack of a better word) them.
You would be worried to if you lived in a place where guns are banned, wouldn't you?

Many times you are actually insulted, it's because there are people that don't like America. And the stereotype of the dumb, illiterate redneck with loads of rifles and shotguns is just too good to pass up on, for many.
User avatar #315 to #306 - romanlettuce
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That stereotype is overwhelming though. In the U.S. everyone is so vastly different because the country is huge and diverse so the whole European nationalist style attacks on us as stereotypical citizens makes no sense and is pretty damn insulting.

If the mockery wasn't so strong I would just be coming exclusively from the point that I want to help Europeans and everyone else entertain the ideas of individual liberty. It's a day of celebration of America's Independence today and many spend the day getting drunk and stupid as usual some people can use the opportunity to learn something about America. Just reading The Declaration should be an amazing experience for a European if they can ignore the stereotypes that are so well reinforced. I want to get along with European people instead of constantly having this nationalist dick war that is like playground games.
User avatar #146 to #144 - turtletroll
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The Metalmind guy was talking about gun ownership being crazy from a european standpoint.

And honestly I don't believe there is any chance of guns being banned in America so don't worry and try to be less offensive towards people who don't understand because it makes you look like the stereo typical "**** everyone else 'MURICA" people.
User avatar #149 to #146 - romanlettuce
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Wow, you really don't know much about this after all. I'm not trying to be offensive but this is the honest truth. Hear this out.

Firearms have already been banned in the United States. Over the past decade we just barely escaped an embarrassing "assault weapons" ban that was a frivolous disaster. Now most states have firearms ownership and carry sitting in a very dangerous legal grey area excepting maybe 2 states of the union.

Today several states are consistently initiating new legislation that effectively bans many many firearms and in some cases all firearms. It's already happening in the United States! Believe it or not. You'd really have to visit to understand the situation deeply but I think you'd be surprised at the situation.

There is so much more to the U.S.A. than just "'MURICA" but that meme itself is an example of the general ignorance about the American experience that prevails in the world.
User avatar #170 to #149 - turtletroll
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You were calling us faggots for not understanding Americas relationship with guns. And you're right I don't know much because I live thousands of miles away.

Calling someone faggots for not loving guns is literally about as 'Murica as you can get
User avatar #322 to #170 - romanlettuce
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I'm not even sure I completely disagree with your idea though.

I do honestly believe that the introduction of many small arms into common possession in all areas of Europe is just going to be a matter of time, legally or illegally. Especially considering future economic and political conditions that seem likely to spring in the coming years.

The stats make my head spin since there's no concrete way to tell what would actually result. I will stand firm on a position of individual liberty but I don't necessarily disagree with your claim. I simply don't know what would really happen.

The whole aggression thing seems unreasonable considering the nature of the mocking and stereotyping which was the initial character assault against these strangers and their gear. It's completely natural to react that way, I think. I just also want to present a reason that the insulting is absurd which can seem aggressive maybe
User avatar #331 to #322 - turtletroll
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The way I see it that there is way too many illegal guns in America to possible control and it would be taking away from those who aren't criminals.

I carry a pocket knife around but a gun seems a bit overkill knowing that there is a very very low amount of guns in the UK
User avatar #332 to #331 - romanlettuce
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That's one of the strongest arguments for the futility of preventing civilian firearm ownership in the U.S. The sheer presence of them. An illegal market in that climate of firearms possession would be a dream come true for cartels.

With technological advancements on the way such as 3D printing and related technologies the manufacture of firearms will become commonplace everywhere and it will then be a huge issue for innocent people who want to stay safe. At some point the knife won't cut it (lol). Also knife fights are horrible as I've been stabbed in one. I would have rather just pointed my firearm and ended the conflict like I had to do earlier this year against another knife happy wannabe assailant here. Unless you really have to protect somebody or go out strong I'd say just run away from a knife fight. that's when the gun can really be the equalizer that lets everyone see another day.
User avatar #313 to #170 - romanlettuce
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Because the people in Europe are humans too and I know well the mistakes of tyrannical practices and how they can be extremely horrendous. Europe should know this well but there's been a good deal of forgetting over there lately with the recent young generations.

You might not think it but even from Europe the opinions can be far reaching into the minds of people in the U.S. You'd be amazed how many people here already think Europe is god tier when they review the conditions of the U.S. Our lands are no longer as far apart as they have been in the past with things like the internet. Ultimately I would like to protect the European brothers and sisters by supporting their own chances to promote individual liberty. It's not a randomly thought up or arrogant position it's only that I have been fortunate to be able to study well the practice of government through America and it's history and the lessons are very dear. It should be that way even for foreigners because the U.S. really had great ideas with it's government for the people. So much can learned and gained from studying it as opposed to maintaining misconceptions about 'murica.

User avatar #314 to #313 - turtletroll
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The thing is that nobody in europe wants guns because we have 0 gun crime.

400 people were killed with guns in the UK last year. In America it's close to 30,000. Just to say again but I would own a gun in America and I would defend that right but never in Europe.
User avatar #319 to #314 - romanlettuce
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I can't reply to the correct comment, but this works.

That's a good point about the different natures of the crime statistics that I looked into. The violent crimes are fairly differently categorized and there is some pretty stupid things in the Home Office violent crimes. More accurately judging specifically by the major crimes of murder, injured assault or robbery the numbers of ALL of the UK are much closer to 2 times that of the U.S. as opposed the inflated 3.5 I suggested earlier. Even then, this is still very objective data that cannot be very reasonably used in criminology but can still make some simple points.

The point that can be clearly made is that the U.S. isn't particularly as much more violent than the UK as many would have you believe. We can judge this well by focusing only on very specific crimes since you showed clearly how unreliable it can be to focus on umbrella terms.

Robbery alone is twice as much in the UK while sexual assault is twice as much in the U.S. per 100,000. These are UN numbers that report assault and threats to be very closely ranked together in the U.S. and U.K.

Reviewing the more reliable statistics it seems even more interesting what would happen if the UK had common weapons ownership again. I still think that homicide rate would certainly increase based off of the similarity in assaults the the U.S. but the numbers we can't account for are the crime stopped with firearms and the criminals homicided with those firearms.
User avatar #321 to #319 - turtletroll
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I think it's okay to just agree to disagree.

But you might want to come off a little bit aggressive next time. It doesn't help get your point across at all
User avatar #316 to #314 - romanlettuce
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From the "Home Office" of England since they keep statistics similar to the FBI here in the U.S.:

In Wales, the charge of "violence against a person" has a rate of 1361 per 100,000 people. 3.5 times that rate of the United States. Knowing that trend, gun ownership would almost certainly increase the murder rate in England. That's unfortunate, but the numbers we cannot easily look at are the amount of murders and violent crimes that gun ownership would STOP.

The excessive firearm crimes you see in the U.S. happen almost exclusively in our big cities where firearms are illegal anyway. It's madness and a land of gangs in these cities where they are almost allowed to be this violent and murderous. Those murders are almost exclusively handguns as well. If you guys had rifles in Europe that would make an almost insignificant change in the murder rate but would very likely serve for a lot of home protection scenarios.

These are just some thoughts to consider since making a fair estimate of the effect of gun ownership in a country such as the UK would be a very complex research project. Like the U.S. we'd probably see much more gun crimes in the metropolitan cities, especially if gangs were encouraged, but mostly positive effects everywhere else in the country.
User avatar #317 to #316 - turtletroll
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Those facts aren't accurate at all

“In the UK there are 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people. …The US has a violent crime rate of 466 [violent] crimes per 100,000 residents.”
Some advice for Mr. Swann: when you see statistics that look unbelievable, you probably shouldn’t believe them, at least until you dig deeper into the data. Based on these figures, it appears that Britain is over 4 times more violent than the US, and since this is all he gives you, that is exactly what he leads his viewers to believe.

What Swann either doesn’t know, or simply doesn’t bother to tell his viewers, is that the definitions for “violent crime” are very different in the US and Britain, and the methodologies of the two statistics he cites are also different. (He probably simply doesn’t realize this: it appears that he lifted his data wholesale from a story in the Daily Mail, without checking it–something you might expect a fact checker to have done.)

First, it should be noted that the figures Swann gives are out of date: in 2010, according to the FBI, the reported rate of violent crime in the US was 403 incidents per 100,000 people–the 466 figure comes from 2007. Second, and more importantly, the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports defines a “violent crime” as one of four specific offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.

The British Home Office, by contrast, has a substantially different definition of violent crime. The British definition includes all “crimes against the person,” including simple assaults, all robberies, and all “sexual offenses,” as opposed to the FBI, which only counts aggravated assaults and “forcible rapes.”
#282 to #170 - romanlettuce
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Do they have university in Europe? There might be classes where you can learn basic argument structure. You'll need it because this is going to cut it.

You're consistently making things up into a logical fallacy and insult called the "strawman". I never claimed what you're leading onto here. "Faggots for not loving guns"? I was attempting to explain why these anti-American opinions were ridiculous, exaggerated and dangerous to you using reason and basic principles but you're resorting to this disingenuous **** regardless.

I'm not surprised but damn does that get repetitive and annoying.
#295 to #282 - anon id: 5821d669
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>Anti-American opinions are ridiculous

Just hear yourself talking. You are as delusional and indoctrinated by your American freedumbs as they come.
User avatar #311 to #295 - romanlettuce
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Yep those opinions are widespread and I think some have a valid basis but that can only be determined case by case of course.

Now..Life without arms will never exist. There will always be armed it seems. What can change is who is allowed to have them. When it changes from people to state only arms ownership there is tyranny and exploitation is guaranteed.

I'm a traveler here so life without my own arms probably wouldn't be a life that lasts very long. I don't want to stop exploring because I can't handle a threat on the road. That would be awful.

Some of those countries may do just fine without the weapons culture the U.S. has. But this is true of the time of peace, stability and growth. The coming years may see less of all of those things and opinions would change quickly. Ultimately, small arms ownership is about individuality and respect for life of the innocent.

User avatar #297 to #295 - romanlettuce
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Wrong.

"these Anti-American opinions" was the full context of the quote that you so generously neglected. When it comes to firearms possessio,n this is an American freedom that is based in reason and respect for the governing man.

The "lol 'murica burger" isn't going to cut it here. It actually makes you look pretty damn stupid to continue to use it to this point.
User avatar #305 to #297 - turtletroll
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Why are you so mad that people in Europe can't understand the concept of everyone being armed?
#303 to #297 - anon id: 5821d669
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Well, the world is full of Anti-American opinions concerning all kinds of things.

The things is, you're acting like a life without arms is not worth living and keep going on about how anti-gun everyone is, when in reality they are just not used to the concept because the whole debate is non-existent in their countries and they do just fine without it.
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I'm in military service in europe and in my opinion it is nuts that civilians are armed like that, instead let the professionals protect.

since when did a civilian with a gun stop another nut civilian from doing a massacre? also most likely said "vigilante" would probably hurt other people as well in his/her adrenaline rush.
User avatar #290 to #275 - romanlettuce
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Anyone in my town could out shoot you as a "professional". I would bet on that. The men here have used more firearms and for longer periods of time than you could even comprehend.

You might have fired 100 rounds more than most people in your country but in a land where there are still a few men around that is not going to impress anybody. A tyrannical and ridiculous point of view.
#296 to #290 - anon id: 5821d669
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>anyone not carrying weapons in public for whatever reasons is not a man

Oh wow.
#300 to #296 - romanlettuce
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Wow, that's a biggin'!
Crikey, look at 'em!
User avatar #136 to #73 - mortolife
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It's just normal for us. It's not abnormal for someone to ask if someone's got a knife in public if we need something done that can be solved by said knife.
User avatar #10 - ljxjlos
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Seriously, in which ******* place does ****************** wear at least a knife or even a ******* gun with them?
Around here, I heavily doubt that you´ll find more than 1 knife when searching 20 people...

seriously, what the hell...
#113 to #10 - romanlettuce
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User avatar #12 to #10 - warmbuns
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"Murica

#26 to #10 - anon id: 0e64e38f
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Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
#41 to #10 - littlegreenmen
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Don't count on it. Everyone I know, male or female, carries some sort of knife. Most ladies also carry pepper spray and bulldog knuckles. Many also carry a gun (if licensed). I always carry a knife, sometimes 2. I also either carry a gun in my pocket or on my hip (yes, I'm licensed).
The rule is, don't ever assume someone is not armed 'cause you can't tell by their looks.
User avatar #43 to #41 - ljxjlos
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I´m hundred percent sure that nearly noone I know carries a knife. I do, sometimes, but not for self-defense, but because I like carving when I´m bored...usually you get looked at as a weirdo, when you do, around here. Especially considering that I´m not even hundred percent sure that you´re allowed to carry knifes bigger than swiss knifes around here. Buck Knifes are illegal, I know that for sure.

And tbh, it doesn´t matter if you have a license. A knife is okay, but carrying a gun wherever you go is pretty ****** up...
#45 to #43 - littlegreenmen
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"And tbh, it doesn´t matter if you have a license. A knife is okay, but carrying a gun wherever you go is pretty ****** up..."

Explain why
User avatar #51 to #45 - ljxjlos
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Well, a gun is a deadly weapon with only one defense - having a lethal weapon yourself. When there are thousands and thousands running around wielding those things - well, you can´t deny that that´s a pretty damn ****** up system, can you?
#52 to #51 - littlegreenmen
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You better learn some facts instead of just stating opinion. Go read "More Guns, Less Crime" by J. Lott for a starter.
User avatar #54 to #52 - ljxjlos
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Go look into other countries statistics. I can barely speak for Germany, but we do pretty ******* perfect without guns...Guns might be justified close to the mexican border, elsewhere it´s just ****** up...
#89 to #54 - anon id: 9f8f45fb
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Versuch besser nicht mit Amerikanern über sowas zu diskutieren, besonders nicht übers Internet.

User avatar #361 to #89 - ljxjlos
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Keine Ahnung, warum ich es immer wieder versuche
#222 to #89 - anon id: 46dc4257
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We Americans love a good argument and to debate points of view. We just expect it to be done with logic and not random opinion.
#60 to #54 - littlegreenmen
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Once again, you are just stating opinion, not facts.
User avatar #360 to #60 - ljxjlos
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Nope. Facts. Germany is pretty much gun-free...and pretty much incredibly safe. That´s a fact.
User avatar #59 to #10 - owemiegawd
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in canada alot of people do, atleast the people i know, small knives and stuff are normal, not as a weapon but as a tool
User avatar #153 to #10 - asumfuck
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I don't wanna be this guy who because its usually some faggot who is trying to sound tough, but every single person i know either conceal carries or has a knife on them when they go out.
User avatar #176 to #10 - mephiblis
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I'm not from the US and i carry a knife everywhere i go. 99% of the time it's for cutting strings/packages/whatever needs to be cut, or even use it for screwing a loose screw since you know, the knife is the most important tool humans have and is basically the thing that helped us evolve from cave dwelling, sister ******* cavemen swinging sticks. And it would be much better than nothing for that 1% of the time where a madman tries to **** you up the ass or a stray dog attacks you at 2 am.
User avatar #14 to #10 - galgawine
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I wear a knife all the time, it's just handy to have with you and makes you feel safe as a bonus. It's one of those things where whenever I don't wear one I always find myself in a situation where I need it so I just always have it.
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I sure hope you've been trained in how to use it, otherwise you're very likely going to end up stabbed with your own knife.

Personally I'd rather go into a fight unarmed, possibly because I've been trained to fight both armed and unarmed opponents, but a knife instantly raises the threat level from "I need to beat him" to "Oh ****! I need to kill him!".
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for me:
knife as tool > knife for self defense

i have one on me. not in school. where i live i'd have no ******* chance to even open it if it comes to fight. Gypsys are only stronk in numbers. if it's only one, it's enough to give him a look. if not, he'll be the one with broken bones
#22 to #10 - tittylovin
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The United States of Freedom, ******.
#207 - Fwimble
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20/M/Ethiopia
User avatar #291 to #207 - tehubernation
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Still the richest man in the village.
#227 - Soilwork
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User avatar #232 to #227 - ishallsmiteyou
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that made me laugh far harder than it should have.
User avatar #79 - huszti
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people carry so much stuff, meanwhile me
22/M/Student
-wallet
-keys
-phone
User avatar #94 to #79 - ichies
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The golden trio. Anything above that is expendable and potentially just for the sake of euphoria and sucking owns dick then showing that to the world, I guess.
User avatar #29 - brokensocialscene
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in case you ever have to shoot a hurricane
User avatar #283 to #29 - bitchpleaseshutup
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looters
User avatar #69 to #29 - moetron
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In the event of a hurricane, throw a flashbang.