There's no way to bring back true Dire Wolves. The real ones (not Game of Thrones) were not much bigger than today's modern Gray or Timber wolves. The main difference is that they had bigger heads, but shorter legs. Think of a wolf mixed with a large Corgi.
Well any predator will scavenge any opportunity it gets, because it's just nature's way of not having to expend so much energy to get a meal. The Dire Wolf was a capable hunter - it just wasn't nearly as fast or adept as the modern Gray Wolves.
They were less muscular and less powerful, but had much longer legs. They essentially starved the Dire Wolf into extinction. That's one way you can tell a wolf from a dog - they have long legs, HUGE paws, and narrow chests with cow-hocked ankles.
I may be getting a pup from this beautiful girl...very soon. c:
Well the alternative would be this female instead. Both are high-content wolfdogs.
I'm definitely getting a pup from one of them, but I haven't fully decided which litter I want a pup from yet.
Also, did you ever read the books? I haven't yet, but apparently, Nymeria isn't extinct at all. She reverted back to a wild state and there were stories told of a "she-wolf the size of a horse" leading an enormous pack that wipes out entire troops. I have a feeling she may come back into play at some point, especially if she is still loyal to Arya.
Well yeah you're right. Arya Stark has to abandon her so he isnt killed. Fast forward a long while and Arya is out and about avoiding various people and Nymeria starts following her with her pack to keep trouble at bay. Im guessing you know about the whole warg thing,
I actually didn't know she began following her. That's interesting. If it's within reason, I really hope they officially reunite - at least in the show, if not in the books. Arya is a ******* badass, she'd be unstoppable with a true adult dire wolf at her side - especially one who has survived on her own in the wild and leads a pack. Can't wait for tonight's episode.
I have to wait untill they come out on friggin box sets over here -_-
And yeah i remember reading how Arya saw Nymeria in a dream killing a bunch of ******** that were out to catch Arya. And later in another wolf dream Nymeria is following her steps and even comes across Catylyns Starks body. . They better meet up, at least one not heart crushing moment needs to happen in it
But yeah she's a real bad ass already that would be pretty epic
Lol dont worry about it
I dont look into that kinda thing much. Im uber paranoid about my computer catching something or getting caught or whatever, even though i know there isnt much chance, just a worrier >_<
Need to get back into the books again, think i have one or two left to go, got half way through the last one then lost the bastard.
So I might be being really dense right now, but are you saying that all of the kids can take control of their dire wolves, not just Bran? . And I'm not sure if you read the books (if you have do NOT tell me), but what do you think the significance of Bran being able to take control of people is? And also, what do you think abut him needing to get to that one tree that he keeps having visions of is?
I could talk for ages about this freakn show, though.
From what I understand, the "Warg" ability is in the Starks' blood. That is why Dire Wolves can bond with them but won't with anyone else. Other than that, I do not know, and no I have not read the books. I do occasionally peruse the Game of Thrones Wiki, though.
Yep, I spent a good hour and a half just looking through random pages on there, it's good stuff.
If the Warg ability is in their blood, why is it only Bran that has been able to use it? The whole controlling people thing is also really interesting, I'm not sure where they are going to go with that.
I truly could not begin to tell you. I like the show, but I haven't read the books and the first time I watched the series, I didn't understand much of it at all so I've been meaning to re-watch them again from the beginning. I would suggest searching for this question on Game of Thrones forums, or asking yourself. c:
That is actually a "Northern Inuit Dogs". They are basically Alaskan Malamutes mixed with German Shepherds, not wolfdogs at all.
The breeder who supplied the animals for acting seemed pretty ignorant and said her dogs were used in "Game of Thorns" more than once.
They look kind of silly in comparison to real wolves - which were used in Season 2 and onward of Game of Thrones. I know the breeder of those and they are superb high-content wolfdogs.
Yes indeed, they knew. They used adult dogs to portray wolf puppies, although even a young wolf looks nothing like that dog - case in point, here is a young adolescent wolf pup. They do look different from the adults, but not dog-like at all.
The main goal for the Northern Inuit Dogs was trainability, because real wolfdogs (especially high-contents that look like real wolves) are NOT the easiest to train.
Notice that the real "dire wolves" aren't actually shown very often in the show anymore, and when you see them, it's not for more than a minute or two at the most.
And an adult wolf, for comparison. This is an Arctic though, and true Arctics are actually quite rare. Most are just misrepresented white dogs. An easy way to tell is that true Arctic wolves are born dark gray and turn white as they age.
Yeah i can kinda see it now, the inuits look kinda blockier/more angler, plus they have those mahoosive ears.
Awesome photo's aswell, i think at that sanctuary i might go to has some arctics. On an unrelated note, noticed someone else around here walking a malamute now
As for how to tell wolfy-looking dogs from real wolfdogs and wolves, here are some excellent guides. I'm not sure if I've shown them to you before, but it's very obvious if you spend a while studying the differences.
We actually have a wolf sanctuary here that I never got to visit. Regrettably, my favorite animal there passed away.
His name was Istas Pejuta, meaning "Medicine Eyes" - the only known wolf to have ever had steel "blue" eyes, the color of storm clouds.
Yeah still got them bookmarked thanks
They were super helpful.
And i think this is the sanctuary i might be going to, still a bit confused on which one does what photography days.
Interestingly, they might not be Arctics at all - most wolves, of any subspecies, will turn white as they age. Some are naturally white or light-colored, but even/especially pure black ones will turn silver and then pure white, as do any brown or gray wolves. It's very interesting to see them in their late teen years, unrecognizable from their youthful selves as a white wolf. This one was born pure black before she began "phasing" to silver.
Every time they show one of those wolves die I get pretty sad, not gonna lie
Once they started showing the wolves all grown the first thing I thought of was buying one and raising it, haha. I was pretty disappointed when I found that they have been extinct...
Whelp, 15 minutes of google'ing... The common consensus is this is shopped.
Her hand looks like it's made out of wood, and her legs are huge. The wolf might be real though.
The original source facebook picture of this was taken down.
Did what I could ... I shall await the liver and nipple in the post.
Am I the only one that can't figure out why people think her legs are supposedly huge?
And the hand, as funky as it may seem, seems like it might be moving. Like the picture was taken while she moved her hand.
But god damn it, a deal was a deal. You'll get the pink-ish nipple from my back, and my liver.
The same size as an average German Shepherd, since this wolfdog isn't much bigger than one. It's the perspective of the photo that makes it look big; notice how the girl is actually quite a ways in the background. Wolves are still fairly large, though - about 90 to 120 pounds. Claims of 150+ should be regarded with skepticism because a lot of people like to lie and can't back it up with an actual vet scale on their weight.
It's not a wolf its an American Alsatian. It was bred specifically to look like the now extinct dire wolf. but it is thoroughly a dog they act pretty similar to German shepherds which is one of the breeds used to create them.
No, the "American Alsatian" IS another name for the German Shepherd Dog. It was another term for them after WWII, because people didn't like owning a "German" Shepherd, and eventually no one gave a **** anymore.
They do happen to come in the color Black. They were not bred to look like "dire wolves", but GSDs were indeed Wolfdogs just a hundred years ago, before generations of inbreeding which usually just compromises their hips and joints.
The animal in this photo is not a wolf; it is a high-content Wolfdog, also incorrectly called a "wolf hybrid" - because wolves and dogs are two types of the same species, rather than different animals.
It does NOT act like a dog, because it is not a dog. It is mostly wolf and will behave like one. They need special containment reminiscent of Doggy Alkatraz, and will suffer without a high-quality diet including a good helping of raw meat each day.
This color is called "Black Phase". All black wolves and most black wolfdogs WILL turn silver, and then pure white as they age. You can tell because a Black Shepherd (or "Alsatian") is jet black, and will not have ears with thick fur in them; nor topaz-orange eyes like a wolf.
Source: I have studied, researched, handled and worked with wolfdogs and "wolf-like" dogs for over a decade, and I study phenotyping which is the process of determining if a dog is part wolf and "how much" wolf is in a wolfdog.
If you want a real hoot, you should check out a new "breed" called the Alaskan Noble Companion Dog. Some of the animals they breed ARE dogs - but most are wolfdogs. In fact, they are high-content wolfdogs, meaning they are almost pure wolves.
The breeder is a LIAR who claims they are "pure dogs selectively bred to look just like wolves". I know other well-known wolfdog breeders who happen to know where this person got their animals, and they are indeed confirmed to be high-content wolfdogs from popular breeders.
It is not true, and if you get them DNA tested by the UC Davis Wolfdog Test (the only test to date that checks for wolf blood, despite what anyone else claims), the results DO show that they are wolfdogs.
Anyone who gets one of these animals and expects it to act "just like a dog", especially if they live in an area where wolfdogs are illegal to own, is in for a real surprise when their animal is confiscated by Animal Control and killed - because it is against protocol for any shelter to adopt out an animal "suspected of being part wolf". A lot of pure Huskies, Malamutes and even Shepherds and mixes die for looking too much like a wolf because shelter staff cannot tell the difference.
Please, please do NOT spread information you are not certain of.
And most of all, DON'T believe everything you hear. Just because someone says it doesn't make it true.
Sonos & fukyouto - so you can both read this as well.
Just one of the reason it's good to be able to know the true difference between dogs, wolfdogs and wolves...and why you should never believe people when they claim their "pet wolf" acts just like a dog and is a good pet. Because chances are, it IS just a dog that happens to look a little wolf-like to someone who hasn't studied the differences. Wolves and wolfdogs are amazing animals, and can make a wonderful companion to someone willing to make the sacrifices to accommodate them into their lives...but they are not, and never will be "good pets".
Not a problem. I'm always happy to help educate anyone who might like to learn more about wolfdogs or wolves. They are amazing animals, but spreading false information that they make great dogs is actually really harmful to the animals people get without being prepared for them.
If anyone wants a "pet wolf", they should get a Shepherd, or perhaps a Husky or a Malamute - both of which are quite difficult for most owners.
If, in about two or three years after that you think you're up to the challenge, consider a "LOW content" wolfdog - almost all dog, but with a little bit of wolf in it. They will have an exotic look and they WILL be more challenging than a normal dog, but not so much so that they don't make good pets if you're devoted to taking good care of them, and perhaps setting aside your own wants and goals in order to do so.
This is my low-content wolfdog. She is almost all Siberian Husky but with a bit of German Shepherd, Alaskan Malamute and Gray Wolf. She's an amazing dog, but still wouldn't make a good pet for everyone. I can explain why not, if anyone is interested in hearing.
Sorry, I completely forgot to answer the second half of your question; because the first is so much more important to be honest.
Wolfdogs tend to live an average of fifteen years, give or take - which beats the average "big dog" life expectancy of 12 years on average.
High-contents and pure wolves who live in captivity, with good care, can live into their late teens or early twenties - I've known a few Ambassador Wolfdogs in person at a rescue group who were 18 and 19 before they passed away, respectively. Amazing animals.
These are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. My low-content (pictured above) is NOT as severe as much of this; which is why I strongly recommend getting a Shepherd, Husky or Malamute; and if you are up to a bigger challenge, then a LOW-content wolfdog. They can look very wolf-like; even with pure huskies and malamutes you will frequently get asked if your dog is a wolf, or part wolf.
With a low-content, people will know your dog is part wolf and many will think it is a pure wolf. It is your job to be honest and explain the differences, because "misrepresentation" can cause a great deal of harm, both to people and especially animals.
I can't take my dogs anywhere without at least one person inquiring about if they are part wolf - in fact, many think they know better than me and will even argue that my dogs has more wolf in them than I think they do! My dogs are "low/no" (little to no wolf blood) and they look like huskies and husky mixes, so that's saying something.
Anyone who actually studies the differences will know the truth, but most people genuinely just can't tell.
I'm very glad they aren't mid or high-contents. They would be practically unmanageable, especially as all of mine are indoor house pets who sleep on my bed with me.
Of all wolfdogs, Lows will make the best companion animals for people.
- Unlike dogs, they were NOT bred for thousands of years to be accepting and obedient of humans. They can be trained, but if you think a Husky or a Malamute is challenging compared to any "normal" dog (which they are), any true wolfdog will be ten times more difficult.
- They are major escape artists. Houdini himself would be standing there, jaw agape, scratching his head in awe if he could see one of these animals left alone.
They can climb or even simply jump six foot fences with grace; you have to have a climbing prevention - as well as a dig guard around the entire perimeter, because they can and will dig out in a matter of minutes.
If you don't have a genuinely "wolf-proof" enclosure, you WILL lose your wolfdog. It's just a matter of time, because all they'll do all day is plot how to get loose so they can go exploring. It is not in their instincts to be contained by barriers, but it's essential for their safety - they will NOT be content to roam freely around your home, staying on your property and coming back for meal times.
Once they're gone, they're gone for good, and it will be a very painful death sentence because no wolfdog (or even pure wolf) raised in captivity would be able to survive in the wild. They'd be shot, hit by cars, attacked by other animals (including wolves) or just starve and die.
- They have a lot of energy and they are destructive. They can chew right through drywall in no time, demolish flooring down to the concrete, and they will do so out of boredom, loneliness, or just natural curiosity.
- They shed. A lot. Each day, you could stuff a large pillow case with the clumps of fur that fall out of them - this is not an exaggeration. They always do this at least once or twice a year. More dog-like ones will require brushing to prevent mats and skin infections. Higher-contents won't mat, and may be too skittish to let you approach, let alone brush them.
- They are noisy. You may think their howls are beautiful. Your neighbors may not. At 5 AM, you may not be too fond of them either.
- They typically cannot be "off-leash" trained. Especially wolfdogs mixed with huskies and malamutes, they are bred to run and explore and they will do so, whether you accompany them or not. If they decide to take off, you probably won't ever catch them; they are very fast. Consider that they can chase down a deer, or run 1100 miles in 9 days, and imagine trying to catch up.
- Most are not cuddly or affectionate. While they may enjoy being petted and scratched on their own terms, they usually won't be clingy or codependent like a dog will. A wolf or wolfdog is "loyal" in other ways when they consider you to be part of their pack; such as they may trust you and only you if you bond with them.
- They are NOT good in public or with strangers. It is not uncommon for them to literally wet themselves in fear, or even panic and purge their anal glands and release rancid diarrhea just because people they don't know are walking close by.
They are not naturally aggressive, but they could definitely fear-bite if someone tried to touch or grab them and they couldn't get away. Even with careful socialization at an early age, most higher-contents (and even plenty of mid-contents) will still be shy and timid.
- They have a high prey drive. This is not "aggression", but rather the desire to hunt and catch small animals. Even in play, they are very big and very powerful, and that can be dangerous if out of control.
Your home and neighborhood could quickly become a cat-free zone unless carefully raised with small animals as a puppy, and even then it's best to only let them interact with supervision just to be safe. Likewise, small dogs might find themselves on the menu too.
Essentially, wolves and dogs are the same species - just two drastically different types of the same animal. I once heard the excellent quote: "Wolves and dogs speak the same language - they just have different accents."
For one thing, wolves are remarkably more intelligent than any breed of dog. Their heads and brains are bigger in proportion to their bodies. Many liken their intellect to that of a small child, comparable to birds, dolphins and primates.
They have a problem-solving mind and they probably will outsmart you many a time; so you may have to be content having a "friendship" bond more than any kind of "dog and master" love.
The short answer is, yes, a wolf can absolutely love you. In fact, if you raise them from puppies (especially if you bottle-feed them so they imprint on you as a sort of surrogate parent), they may very well love ONLY you, aside from their canine companions - because they do need other dogs or wolfdogs as pack mates too.
Will they "love" you enough to overrule instinct, and stay by your side wherever you go without a leash or fence, just because they want to be with you? No. They are not 'pets' in that sense, and that's a recipe for disaster to expect them to behave like the "wolves" you see on Game of Thrones.
Will they love to the point of guarding you from strangers (again, like on Game of Thrones)? Absolutely not. They would expect you to protect them instead.
So yes; you can love them, and they can love you. But your relationship would never be the same as it would with a Labrador or a German Shepherd - and for people who are truly devoted to sharing their lives with such an animal, the fact that they are so different is a rare, special and wonderful thing.
Do you think that they love can love us the same amount as dogs do, but since their instincts are stronger they aren't going to resist certain temptations just because they want to be with you? Is that the jist of what youre saying?
I think that description would be very well-said, yes indeed.
Wolves have a very strong pack-animal mentality and if they view you as a part of that pack, then yes, they will love you like one of their own and be very attached to you.
It is a bond that is unlike any you will have with a dog or another human.
But in the end, they are not dogs, and loving a human will never make them fully behave like one.
This is mostly in reference to higher-content animals, though, which are much closer to pure wolves than mids or especially lows, which tend to be much more dog-like in appearance and behavior and thus make the best pets.
That doesn't mean you can expect them to be easily trainable or obedient and act like a golden retriever, though, because the vast, vast majority will not. In other words, keeping one in an unfenced area without a leash is a fast ticket to losing it.
About 95% of people who "want a wolf" (or wolfdog) have no business owning anything other than a German Shepherd, much less a Siberian Husky or an Alaskan Malamute or especially a true wolfdog of any content level.
Fortunately, there are very many great alternatives. Sable-colored German Shepherd Dogs in particular can look very wolf-like (to the point many people can't always tell if they are pure shepherd or have some wolf in them) and they tend to be very easy to handle for any devoted dog owner, as most GSDs are.
Here are some good websites about learning "how much" wolf is in a wolfdog, if any, just in case you might like to check them out.
Just for a quick comparison, here is a real mid-content wolfdog around 50%; mixed with Malamute and Husky. They look much different than any malamute or dog you will ever see.
Sorry, but that's definitely not the case. She is absolutely gorgeous, but she is almost all Malamute, with a unique "off-standard" facial mask - a "low/no" content; meaning little or no wolf blood.
She might even be mixed with Husky or Shepherd too, especially judging by her markings and ears.
Beautiful, but most people can't tell a "half wolf" from a pure dog. An animal who is really 50% wolf will definitely look like a wolf, no doubt about it. That's actually a good thing because a real "mid-content" wolfdog would NOT make a very good pet. They are typically shy, skittish, aloof, do NOT crave or desire human affection or interaction, are almost impossible to contain in a home or yard without a very secure climb-proof and dig-proof enclosure (about 9 feet tall or higher) and generally aren't the best pets.
Your girl definitely has an exotic look to her, even if she's mostly or pure dog. She's very pretty.