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funpunk (01/10/2016) [-] 
Hillary Clinton said that she admires Merkel. I realize that not all refugees are bad and everything, but I don't want to see America end up like Germany. Or worse; Sweden.
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somehowaddicted (01/11/2016) [-]
My girlfriend thinks anal is sinful without being Christian... :/
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
I dated a christian girl for about two years. the most we ever did was hardcore make out or whatever you want to call it. I stuck around because I really liked her and we had lots of fun together, but it didn't work out in the end. a year later I get with this girl in my sister sorority, and to make a long story short, I ate her ass two months into dating.
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hirollin (01/11/2016) [-] Well sir, then you'd be dating a Catholic. Haha no but seriously, if you dated a "Christian" girl you wouldn't be having sex till your wedding night.
Apparently after that, statistically they are the biggest freaks in the sack out of all cultures. I don't have a source to back that up, I just remember reading a study that said that conservative sexually repressed Christians are the kinkiest in the Western world. May be total bs, but w/e.
But if you're dating a Christian girl who has sex before marriage, you are pretty much just dating a girl. Or a hypocrite, w/e.
Apparently after that, statistically they are the biggest freaks in the sack out of all cultures. I don't have a source to back that up, I just remember reading a study that said that conservative sexually repressed Christians are the kinkiest in the Western world. May be total bs, but w/e.
But if you're dating a Christian girl who has sex before marriage, you are pretty much just dating a girl. Or a hypocrite, w/e.
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beasert (01/11/2016) [-] She was the first girl I had sex with. I didn't want to mess things up in bed so I studied. Not chan-style threads, but sex doctor kind of stuff.
It paid off big for her because, for a guy with no actual experience, I quickly figured out how to work some magic between the sheets.
She, however, was a different story.
She liked to talk big about wanting to try this or that in front of her friends. I'd be there a lot of times, and once in a while I'd say, in front of all of them "I'd try that with you." There would always be a look of horror on her face. Later when we'd have sex, 9/10 she back down, and the 1/10 would be a tone down.
Anal never came up (which is fine by me), but oral was out of the question (giving it, at least), she didn't like being on top (frees up my hands for other things, gives my shoulders a break), wanted to keep her clothes on as much as possible, and anything outside was missionary was almost always shot down.
She had an idea to watch porn together. She thought it was going to look like something from HBO. She quickly learned otherwise. I knew it was going to be a first for her, so I let her pick the search terms. "Boobs" was her choice. We watched a video of a couple doing doggy-style and it was apparently to gross to finish.
Her crowning achievement was when I found out she didn't know how girls masturbated (because genitals are "dirty").
After a while I'd play movies in my head to keep myself occupied during sex.
It wasn't all bad; that big talk would usually be accompanied by big presentations before the act, but the follow through was generally lack luster. I didn't even keep any of her nudes.
It paid off big for her because, for a guy with no actual experience, I quickly figured out how to work some magic between the sheets.
She, however, was a different story.
She liked to talk big about wanting to try this or that in front of her friends. I'd be there a lot of times, and once in a while I'd say, in front of all of them "I'd try that with you." There would always be a look of horror on her face. Later when we'd have sex, 9/10 she back down, and the 1/10 would be a tone down.
Anal never came up (which is fine by me), but oral was out of the question (giving it, at least), she didn't like being on top (frees up my hands for other things, gives my shoulders a break), wanted to keep her clothes on as much as possible, and anything outside was missionary was almost always shot down.
She had an idea to watch porn together. She thought it was going to look like something from HBO. She quickly learned otherwise. I knew it was going to be a first for her, so I let her pick the search terms. "Boobs" was her choice. We watched a video of a couple doing doggy-style and it was apparently to gross to finish.
Her crowning achievement was when I found out she didn't know how girls masturbated (because genitals are "dirty").
After a while I'd play movies in my head to keep myself occupied during sex.
It wasn't all bad; that big talk would usually be accompanied by big presentations before the act, but the follow through was generally lack luster. I didn't even keep any of her nudes.
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alexsilkwood (01/11/2016) [-] man that sucks, at least she keep your expectation low to enjoy more in the future I guess.
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
thats because many of our european users are witnessing the death of europe
wouldnt you be pissed if it was your country overruned with ******* and *********** because "le equality and non racesm we gota open our borders xdd"?
wouldnt you be pissed if it was your country overruned with ******* and *********** because "le equality and non racesm we gota open our borders xdd"?
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chaoticlaw (01/11/2016) [-] This isn't the death of Europe. It's been through far worse, I assure you. I lived in Russia for a good few years when I was younger, and it was pretty **** even without the extremists.
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asotil (01/11/2016) [-] Not really sure if you can call Russia Europe
I mean geologically it's part of Europe, yes. But that **** you went through in Russia was at most the Russian Average. The rest of Europe is used to nothing being wrong and nice cushy lifestyles without crime or being told their incorrect by the government, Europe is actually kinda ****** now. Russia is just calling it Tuesday and sending more jets to Ukraine
I mean geologically it's part of Europe, yes. But that **** you went through in Russia was at most the Russian Average. The rest of Europe is used to nothing being wrong and nice cushy lifestyles without crime or being told their incorrect by the government, Europe is actually kinda ****** now. Russia is just calling it Tuesday and sending more jets to Ukraine
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chaoticlaw (01/11/2016) [-] To be honest, I did live in Kapotnya, which is arguably the worst district in Moscow. But even then, I traveled quite a bit and a good portion of the continent was pretty **** . The better areas were admittedly very nice and had few problems to deal with, but that's apparent in any societal hierarchy, which is present in even America.
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alcoholicsemen (01/11/2016) [-] its like they know whats going on in the world have some sarcastic remark ready to repost
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chaoticlaw (01/11/2016) [-] Not meaning to be a prick, but can you type that again.
I don't understand your meaning.
I don't understand your meaning.
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alcoholicsemen (01/11/2016) [-] i'll be honest i didnt proofread
put 'and' after world
other than that i got nothin
just saying we might be reposting stuff without knowing whats going on
put 'and' after world
other than that i got nothin
just saying we might be reposting stuff without knowing whats going on
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chaoticlaw (01/11/2016) [-] Oh, I gotcha. That's certainly a problem here, but it's not like it's much different elsewhere.
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alcoholicsemen (01/11/2016) [-] as long as it doesnt stop me from making tacos on tuesday
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vorarephilia 
(01/11/2016) [-] What I hate the most is it literally serves no purpose other than to piss people off.
I didn't laugh. It doesn't change the immigration policies, and frankly at this point Germans either are fine with the status quo or aren't and won't be changing their mind. Over here in the states I can't vote on a president until I think march which is when the primaries take place, and officially vote in November.
I didn't even get a half chub.
So all this post does is remind me that bad stuff is happening. And I don't like being reminded about things I have absolutely no power over. What am I supposed to do about rape thousands of miles away? Send an angry letter to a government I am not a citizen of?
So now I'm slightly irritated about German Immigration policies and at op for reminding me of said immigration policies.
And to top it off, OP's avatar reminded me of 2 girls 1 cup.
concentrationcamp, I hope you stub your toe on a piece of furniture in the near future.
(01/11/2016) [-] I didn't laugh. It doesn't change the immigration policies, and frankly at this point Germans either are fine with the status quo or aren't and won't be changing their mind. Over here in the states I can't vote on a president until I think march which is when the primaries take place, and officially vote in November.
I didn't even get a half chub.
So all this post does is remind me that bad stuff is happening. And I don't like being reminded about things I have absolutely no power over. What am I supposed to do about rape thousands of miles away? Send an angry letter to a government I am not a citizen of?
So now I'm slightly irritated about German Immigration policies and at op for reminding me of said immigration policies.
And to top it off, OP's avatar reminded me of 2 girls 1 cup.
concentrationcamp, I hope you stub your toe on a piece of furniture in the near future.
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blackmageewizardt ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] I want to be fair here:
Barelly anyone is agreeing with Merkel, she did that on her own, ignoring the other 100 People that would have actuelly an word in this. If you look through german media, you will notice countless articles (unless made be lefty or righty jornalists) who describe that an big part of the Parlament where and are not happy with how Merkel is doing atm, Seehofer one of the biggest critics on it.
The goverment is already building up constructive ways to deal with all this, planning already some laws to make sure immigrants would have to stay at an certain place instead of going to the bigger Citys and so on.
We Germans had went through rougher stuff, the decline of economy, our Country got 2 times destroyed in an row and rebuilded itself, the building of an wall and it´s end, the fears of what would happen if US and UDSSR would blow each other up, that **** ain´t gonna take us down, you need bigger **** to happen.
In the end it´s like this: Where i live (roughly an small "markt" with 5000 People) we got around 1000 immigrants and you know what? Nothing, thats right i barrely notice this People, i just see them often Standing in line at the local super markets with me, buying some cheap **** to make something to eat.
Firefighers haven´t come yet, Police hasn´t come yet. You here often People complain who got for some reason an good bunch of ****** immigrants and some other **** that though it could sneak in.
We talk about almost an Million People moving into an Country, OF COURSE there will be **** Happening, **** will be exagerated and **** will be talked, thats ******* normal.
So yeah, as often most Germans sit there, accepting what happens right now with Status quo, because taking it down now would just Play in someones Hands, and from to time complain about it. Same **** , different year, if i would Count up how ******* normal that is, we would sit here until the next day.
Barelly anyone is agreeing with Merkel, she did that on her own, ignoring the other 100 People that would have actuelly an word in this. If you look through german media, you will notice countless articles (unless made be lefty or righty jornalists) who describe that an big part of the Parlament where and are not happy with how Merkel is doing atm, Seehofer one of the biggest critics on it.
The goverment is already building up constructive ways to deal with all this, planning already some laws to make sure immigrants would have to stay at an certain place instead of going to the bigger Citys and so on.
We Germans had went through rougher stuff, the decline of economy, our Country got 2 times destroyed in an row and rebuilded itself, the building of an wall and it´s end, the fears of what would happen if US and UDSSR would blow each other up, that **** ain´t gonna take us down, you need bigger **** to happen.
In the end it´s like this: Where i live (roughly an small "markt" with 5000 People) we got around 1000 immigrants and you know what? Nothing, thats right i barrely notice this People, i just see them often Standing in line at the local super markets with me, buying some cheap **** to make something to eat.
Firefighers haven´t come yet, Police hasn´t come yet. You here often People complain who got for some reason an good bunch of ****** immigrants and some other **** that though it could sneak in.
We talk about almost an Million People moving into an Country, OF COURSE there will be **** Happening, **** will be exagerated and **** will be talked, thats ******* normal.
So yeah, as often most Germans sit there, accepting what happens right now with Status quo, because taking it down now would just Play in someones Hands, and from to time complain about it. Same **** , different year, if i would Count up how ******* normal that is, we would sit here until the next day.
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blackmageewizardt ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] Gosh my grammer is **** this day, i need my coffee
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distortedflare ONLINE (01/10/2016) [-] They really are a savages I have no hatred for muslims who respect western society and are open minded but the rest of them that stick to their religion can **** off.
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thegreenrecon (01/11/2016) [-] I mean the intentions of a faith are worth only what the people who subscribe to said faith do with it.
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alfonshister (01/11/2016) [-] what >>#162 is saying is that just because you call yourself something doesn't mean you ARE it.
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distortedflare ONLINE (01/10/2016) [-] Given you are being a close minded prick right now, you are hardly in a position to judge. Nice to know people that come from a bloody and violent country and religion, can be more open minded and tolerant than your ass.
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
It's pretty much as you said above. It's basically all about their willingness to adjust their religion around modern society. A Muslim who believes in and follows their holy book as law and absolute truth will be an absolute piece of **** human being. The same can be said for people who follow Christianity as law and absolute truth.
They might be good starting points to get your behaviour and morals from, but the only way that you can not be a barbaric, ****** person like most people were some thousands of years ago when the books were written is if you filter all that through modern values and morals.
They might be good starting points to get your behaviour and morals from, but the only way that you can not be a barbaric, ****** person like most people were some thousands of years ago when the books were written is if you filter all that through modern values and morals.
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distortedflare ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] Exactly. This dude may be from a different place and religion but he is a beta virgin like all of us.
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djpharaoh (01/11/2016) [-] Your comment makes no sense at all. You're calling muslims savages, then you say you don't hate the ones that respect the society they reside in....but then if they "stick to their religion" they can **** off.....
Seriously who dropped you on your head when you were younger? Or do your parents, who failed at raising an educated child, never talk about it?
Seriously who dropped you on your head when you were younger? Or do your parents, who failed at raising an educated child, never talk about it?
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ayehateyawrflaws (01/11/2016) [-] To be fair, it's not the religion itself that's at fault here, its their twisted interpretation.
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distortedflare ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] That is true but as a whole even the ones that don't belief in bombing places will still stone a girl to death for being raped or disown or even kill children that leave, marry outside the religion. Hell not to long ago a muslim family killed their daughter in an honor killing because she decided she wanted to go to University not only that but was dating a guy that was christian.
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ayehateyawrflaws (21 hours ago) [-] Again, thats a twisted interpretation. Although the Quran has a lot of out of date rules and practices, it's still has remained pretty accurate for a lot of things.
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alfonshister (01/10/2016) [-] Sticking to Islam and respecting other societies don't contradict each other.
Stop implying the opposite.
Stop implying the opposite.
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
Except for that western values and islam contradict eachother very much, which lead and still leads to an unprecedented formation of parallel societies within Europe right now.
Ignoring that and saying that acceptance of immense homophobia, sexism and draconic punishment in arabian and overall muslim countries all over the world has nothing to do with Islam and those those thing always being in the same place is just coincidence is straight up ignorant.
"Stop implying the opposite"? Sounds like "Stop implying obvious patterns in the real world, I dont like you pointing out the reality"
Ignoring that and saying that acceptance of immense homophobia, sexism and draconic punishment in arabian and overall muslim countries all over the world has nothing to do with Islam and those those thing always being in the same place is just coincidence is straight up ignorant.
"Stop implying the opposite"? Sounds like "Stop implying obvious patterns in the real world, I dont like you pointing out the reality"
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alfonshister (01/11/2016) [-] My points were
"sticking islamic belief"
and
"respecting another society" or simply "the society you're living in"
My point is, in the Qur'an it states to stick to contracts you made, not to lie to other people, not to force anyone to a belief, and instaed of crying around when a country restricts your options to follow Islamic law, but leave the country instead and go somewhere where you can.
You can't come to Germany and force everyone to not allow gay marriage for example. You don't even have to, it's not your responsibility.
The problem is, no right-wing extremist is going to tell you about those verses and show that the criminal and raping immigrants are acting AGAINST Islamic law.
that's why people should be really careful with generalizations. It's a pretty important issue nowadays.
"sticking islamic belief"
and
"respecting another society" or simply "the society you're living in"
My point is, in the Qur'an it states to stick to contracts you made, not to lie to other people, not to force anyone to a belief, and instaed of crying around when a country restricts your options to follow Islamic law, but leave the country instead and go somewhere where you can.
You can't come to Germany and force everyone to not allow gay marriage for example. You don't even have to, it's not your responsibility.
The problem is, no right-wing extremist is going to tell you about those verses and show that the criminal and raping immigrants are acting AGAINST Islamic law.
that's why people should be really careful with generalizations. It's a pretty important issue nowadays.
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
Islam, like Christianity is an extremely missionary religion, with Saudi Arabia financing new mosques and forcing their wahabism into Europe. Why are you denying the reality?
That theoretically it wouldnt have to be this way doesnt change anything that the reality looks completly different
That theoretically it wouldnt have to be this way doesnt change anything that the reality looks completly different
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alfonshister (01/11/2016) [-] Islam is defined by its sources, not by the retards who say they are acting in its name and have no actual idea
Sources are Hadith and the Qur'an. Everything else is manmade culture.
Sources are Hadith and the Qur'an. Everything else is manmade culture.
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anon (19 hours ago) [-]
>Defined by it's sources.
>Multiple clear cut examples that apostasy should be punished with death.
>Brutal archaic punishments like cutting off hands and feet
>Multiple examples of war and murder justified as 'Allah's will'
It's a brutal, archaic, dogmatic religion and you saying that people who do these terrible things in Islam's name do not follow Islam is just wrong. There's plenty of justification for terrible ******** in that book and in the Bible. Basically what you're saying is "These Muslims don't follow MY interpretation of the faith so therefore they are not true Muslims." well they could say the same thing about you, because a lot of the **** they do can be justified through the Quran.
>Multiple clear cut examples that apostasy should be punished with death.
>Brutal archaic punishments like cutting off hands and feet
>Multiple examples of war and murder justified as 'Allah's will'
It's a brutal, archaic, dogmatic religion and you saying that people who do these terrible things in Islam's name do not follow Islam is just wrong. There's plenty of justification for terrible ******** in that book and in the Bible. Basically what you're saying is "These Muslims don't follow MY interpretation of the faith so therefore they are not true Muslims." well they could say the same thing about you, because a lot of the **** they do can be justified through the Quran.
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alfonshister (01/11/2016) [-] Now we're to discussing history.
I have some knowledge about that stuff, but i'm afraid it's too limited to give a detailed and comprehensive answer.
It has something to do with The Middle Eastern leaders not letting the truth be spread peacefully and forcing the inhabitants to live in delusion and not as god wants them to.
I have some knowledge about that stuff, but i'm afraid it's too limited to give a detailed and comprehensive answer.
It has something to do with The Middle Eastern leaders not letting the truth be spread peacefully and forcing the inhabitants to live in delusion and not as god wants them to.
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
Ahahahahaha
Every single scholars could interpret this context on the situation in Europe and rightfully justify a Jihad against the West
>Now were discussing history
But doesnt the Hadith say so? And, as you said the
>Sources for Islam are Hadith and the Qur'an
Now what?
Every single scholars could interpret this context on the situation in Europe and rightfully justify a Jihad against the West
>Now were discussing history
But doesnt the Hadith say so? And, as you said the
>Sources for Islam are Hadith and the Qur'an
Now what?
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alfonshister (01/11/2016) [-] wrong. As long as you're in a country you're bound to its laws. I mentionned that before.
And there is no war going on. Neither Germany nor Sweden nor any other country in the World is invading Syria.
Only a terrorist will ignore the verses in the Qur'an that tell you how to be peaceful and keep your contracts.
And you're using that word "Hadith". I don't know what you think it means, it's about what the prophet said and did. I just gave you one reason for his actions. Would have to look for the others.
And there is no war going on. Neither Germany nor Sweden nor any other country in the World is invading Syria.
Only a terrorist will ignore the verses in the Qur'an that tell you how to be peaceful and keep your contracts.
And you're using that word "Hadith". I don't know what you think it means, it's about what the prophet said and did. I just gave you one reason for his actions. Would have to look for the others.
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hingerbinger (01/11/2016) [-] Trust me dude, there's no point in trying to defend Islam on this site, I've tried too many times but no one here wants a legitimate discussion. A lot of people think that if they diss religion that makes them Bill ******* Nye
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dickticklerluv (01/11/2016) [-] the irony of that is it just separates people more and causes them to show hostility towards another. Not just with Islam and the west but all of the other social issues. At times where we have to overcome the hatred and madness in the world there are those who want to follow their own agenda of what they think is right but in fact hurts each other more.
might sound like a childish dream but it'd be all the better if we could look at one another as people and not as enemies and that goes for everyone.
might sound like a childish dream but it'd be all the better if we could look at one another as people and not as enemies and that goes for everyone.
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deathstare (01/11/2016) [-] You speak as if Islam was the only warring religion in it's time. Know this, when the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was leading the nation of Islam, all wars were retaliatory. They were either in defense, or to free Muslims that were being treated with injustice in another land. There was the message sent, "Stop oppressing our people, or we will free them", whoever ignored the warning, was attacked. The wars were the most civilized as well. The Muslims did not burn any books, trees, or houses. They did not kill women, children, the elderly, or any man who was fleeing. They did not attack out of anger. If you were about to strike down your enemy, and he spat at you, you should not kill him at that time, because it's no longer a kill for your religion, but of your anger.
Before you try to quote history at us, try to learn the history yourself.
Before you try to quote history at us, try to learn the history yourself.
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alfonshister (01/11/2016) [-] wrong.
Kick out criminals, keep an eye on the people you let in
My point with generalizations is that
feminazis complain about all men being the same,
fedorists complain about all women being the same
extreme rightwings complain about all immigrants being worthless criminals,
white supermacists complain about blacks being generally inferior
Dindus complain that all whites are privileged racists
Kick out criminals, keep an eye on the people you let in
My point with generalizations is that
feminazis complain about all men being the same,
fedorists complain about all women being the same
extreme rightwings complain about all immigrants being worthless criminals,
white supermacists complain about blacks being generally inferior
Dindus complain that all whites are privileged racists
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
But ignoring obvious patterns for the sake of tolerance is just dumb. Why are you constantly avoiding answering whenever you get involved in this kind of discussions lately? How is the Sharia supposed to merge into western society? Isnt the mass rape an arabic/islamic problem that got imported into Europe with the muslims?
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alfonshister (01/11/2016) [-] Not Islamic.
According to Islam having sex out of marriage is (if it can be proven) to be punished with 70 whiplashes in public, if the guy is actually married and cheats on his wife or the other way round and several conditions are met it can go up o the death penatly.
And the Sharia doesn't have to merge int the Western culture. This is a democratic continent, if the majority is for a law it gets passed, if not, everything stays the same.
And there is seriously no reason for anything to change at the moment. There are no laws restricting your from practicin your belief.
According to Islam having sex out of marriage is (if it can be proven) to be punished with 70 whiplashes in public, if the guy is actually married and cheats on his wife or the other way round and several conditions are met it can go up o the death penatly.
And the Sharia doesn't have to merge int the Western culture. This is a democratic continent, if the majority is for a law it gets passed, if not, everything stays the same.
And there is seriously no reason for anything to change at the moment. There are no laws restricting your from practicin your belief.
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
Problem being that muslim minorities ignore the societal law and practice their fascistic Sharia. What are you even trying to reason away? Stoning a girl to death for the crime of being raped? Someone stole an apple, so naturally his hand has to be cut off?
What are you trying to reason away next, genocide?
And with any major Abrahamitic Religion its easy to interpret the scriptures so that any nonbeliever doesnt even count as a human and thus rules dont apply to the filthy infidels. Why do you keep on denying the Islamic reality? If such a high amount of strong-faithed Muslims doesnt follow those rules that are only your westernized interpretations of the Quran, the major part of the muslims worldwide would probably say that you are not a real muslim wouldnt that mean that Islam is a gigantic failure, that might have actually worked If only it werent for this meddling reality?
What are you trying to reason away next, genocide?
And with any major Abrahamitic Religion its easy to interpret the scriptures so that any nonbeliever doesnt even count as a human and thus rules dont apply to the filthy infidels. Why do you keep on denying the Islamic reality? If such a high amount of strong-faithed Muslims doesnt follow those rules that are only your westernized interpretations of the Quran, the major part of the muslims worldwide would probably say that you are not a real muslim wouldnt that mean that Islam is a gigantic failure, that might have actually worked If only it werent for this meddling reality?
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alfonshister (01/11/2016) [-] Now you're just wrong. Your examples violate Islamic law
It's WRONG to murder a girl for te deeds of someone else, hell, that's so basic it feels silly to write this down . I know you're referring o what happened in Saudi Arabia. But as i said, it's a dictatorship of retards. Nether the king nor his now dead father could even speak arabic properly without grammatical errors in every second word. It's just pathetic.
Or cutting the hand for stealing.
That rule only applies when, like, 10 criteria are met, some of them being
>the person mustnot have been in NEED
>the stolen good must have been of actual value, nothing silly
>the thing must have been kept safe, not lying around publicly so everyone could have taken it
>the guy stealing must be Muslim
>must be of certain age
>must have heard of that law.
Also, the prosecutor has to prove that those criteria are met.
The problem is that the media will never tell you the whole story. Because then things would be boring
I'm not saying those actions are reasonable, I'm actually showing you that those things are illegal by Islam, that it's not some inhumane terror as some people imagine.
"Any nonbeliever doesn't count as human"
Bruh, practucally everyone is a nonbeliever before converting. And there ARE rules defined, why do you say there aren't? There are or nowadays, were because of the dangerous situation Christian and Jewish families living since before Islam in Syria, with their churches and synagogues. Careful with wrong statements bro.
And what i'm saying isn't westernized. It's taught to me from my father who was taught in a mosque in the midst of damascus from ca. 1955 to 1975. So much to westernization.
And don't come and tell me that OTHERS will tell me that i'm not a real Muslim. that majority you're talking about is not living a "different" version of Islam, but just not caring about its laws LIKE, no regular prayers, taking drugs,. The idea that the majority of Muslims wants to eradicate the West and kill people is absolute ******** .
The problem is that the most stupid people cry the loudest.
"If a high amount of strong faither Muslims
doesn't follow those rules"
First of all, then they are not strong faither Muslims
Second, the people who want to destroy Europe and the West are a stupid tiny minority. But as i said, they make the news, not the millions and millions of innocent people practicing their belief. That's boring.
It's WRONG to murder a girl for te deeds of someone else, hell, that's so basic it feels silly to write this down . I know you're referring o what happened in Saudi Arabia. But as i said, it's a dictatorship of retards. Nether the king nor his now dead father could even speak arabic properly without grammatical errors in every second word. It's just pathetic.
Or cutting the hand for stealing.
That rule only applies when, like, 10 criteria are met, some of them being
>the person mustnot have been in NEED
>the stolen good must have been of actual value, nothing silly
>the thing must have been kept safe, not lying around publicly so everyone could have taken it
>the guy stealing must be Muslim
>must be of certain age
>must have heard of that law.
Also, the prosecutor has to prove that those criteria are met.
The problem is that the media will never tell you the whole story. Because then things would be boring
I'm not saying those actions are reasonable, I'm actually showing you that those things are illegal by Islam, that it's not some inhumane terror as some people imagine.
"Any nonbeliever doesn't count as human"
Bruh, practucally everyone is a nonbeliever before converting. And there ARE rules defined, why do you say there aren't? There are or nowadays, were because of the dangerous situation Christian and Jewish families living since before Islam in Syria, with their churches and synagogues. Careful with wrong statements bro.
And what i'm saying isn't westernized. It's taught to me from my father who was taught in a mosque in the midst of damascus from ca. 1955 to 1975. So much to westernization.
And don't come and tell me that OTHERS will tell me that i'm not a real Muslim. that majority you're talking about is not living a "different" version of Islam, but just not caring about its laws LIKE, no regular prayers, taking drugs,. The idea that the majority of Muslims wants to eradicate the West and kill people is absolute ******** .
The problem is that the most stupid people cry the loudest.
"If a high amount of strong faither Muslims
doesn't follow those rules"
First of all, then they are not strong faither Muslims
Second, the people who want to destroy Europe and the West are a stupid tiny minority. But as i said, they make the news, not the millions and millions of innocent people practicing their belief. That's boring.
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anon (22 hours ago) [-]
Well, but other mosques teach other things. Now, who is right?
Must be the ones that taught your father I guess youre a muslim too, making you incredibly biased in this discussion, as you wouldnt even accept that you were wrong If it hit you in the face. I know that Im biased too, doesnt make my statement any less true , right? Everyone else is just wrong. The whole of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Iran with their scholars that studied Islamic rights on universities are wrong, If only they had visited that one mosque in Damascus they might have learned the undisputable truth.
Fact is, Islamic countries practicing the Sharia are gigantic ********* . Those are the only countries in the world practicing confessional wars right now.
I dont want violent muslims in my country because "in theory, they should actually be peaceful". Islamic terrorism and fundamentalism are imported problems, big problems too, and now and then someone like you shows up, and after every single terrorist attack you will be like "No, everything but the one constant pattern in this (Islam) is at fault, Im a muslim, so listen to me"
Must be the ones that taught your father I guess youre a muslim too, making you incredibly biased in this discussion, as you wouldnt even accept that you were wrong If it hit you in the face. I know that Im biased too, doesnt make my statement any less true , right? Everyone else is just wrong. The whole of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Iran with their scholars that studied Islamic rights on universities are wrong, If only they had visited that one mosque in Damascus they might have learned the undisputable truth.
Fact is, Islamic countries practicing the Sharia are gigantic ********* . Those are the only countries in the world practicing confessional wars right now.
I dont want violent muslims in my country because "in theory, they should actually be peaceful". Islamic terrorism and fundamentalism are imported problems, big problems too, and now and then someone like you shows up, and after every single terrorist attack you will be like "No, everything but the one constant pattern in this (Islam) is at fault, Im a muslim, so listen to me"
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deathstare (01/11/2016) [-] Raping is not a part of Islam. Raping and forced wedlock is a culture started because some dude a long time ago decided he wanted a harem or something. There are very few cultures that treat women bad. Those are the rednecks of Islam. Unfortunately, like any group of individuals, the worst are always shown the most, because the good ones never do anything negatively newsworthy. Think "Westboro Baptist Church."
Those that rape women will burn in hell, simply said. In Islam, we cannot have sex out of wedlock, and you need a consenting lady to even get married. None of that, "Marry my daughter, don't worry if she says no, she'll grow to like you" ******** . If she says no, the wedding is cancelled, period.
Now, if the man and women agree to marry, and the parents say no for no reason, guess what, the parents have no say.
TL;DR: I'm a Muslim, and I expressly hate people that rape or mistreat anyone, be it man or woman. It is NOT a part of religion. We Muslims are meant to treat even war prisoners as if they were our guests. If we treat our enemies with respect, why would you think we treat our allies with disrespect? The rapers are the rednecks of our kind, following made up fantasy religions.
Those that rape women will burn in hell, simply said. In Islam, we cannot have sex out of wedlock, and you need a consenting lady to even get married. None of that, "Marry my daughter, don't worry if she says no, she'll grow to like you" ******** . If she says no, the wedding is cancelled, period.
Now, if the man and women agree to marry, and the parents say no for no reason, guess what, the parents have no say.
TL;DR: I'm a Muslim, and I expressly hate people that rape or mistreat anyone, be it man or woman. It is NOT a part of religion. We Muslims are meant to treat even war prisoners as if they were our guests. If we treat our enemies with respect, why would you think we treat our allies with disrespect? The rapers are the rednecks of our kind, following made up fantasy religions.
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cptsweatpants (01/10/2016) [-] You cannot be muslim and respect western society. Same as you cannot be Christian and respect the muslim society. You can be a 21st century person with a working brain and learn to tolerate and live together, but the two societies do not mix. They have values and morals that are direct opposites. It simply cannot work. Live and let live is the motto. And in Europe's case, live and let live somewhere else.
The issue with immigrants is not in particular that they are muslim, but that they are uneducated monkeys with previous century mindset and a twisted disinformed view of europe's society. They cannot even begin to comprehend what we have here and how it works, neither will their children. With a bit of luck maybe their children's children will start to. But by then we'll all be lying with our throats slit. Unless we finnaly show them the force, the one thing universal to all cultures. And the one and only thing these "barbarians" will understand.
The issue with immigrants is not in particular that they are muslim, but that they are uneducated monkeys with previous century mindset and a twisted disinformed view of europe's society. They cannot even begin to comprehend what we have here and how it works, neither will their children. With a bit of luck maybe their children's children will start to. But by then we'll all be lying with our throats slit. Unless we finnaly show them the force, the one thing universal to all cultures. And the one and only thing these "barbarians" will understand.
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cptsweatpants (01/11/2016) [-] You are right. It is not my place to say. (Un)luckily, the absolute majority of key muslim leaders does that for me.
Should you and your wife/girlfriend/mother/sister whatever go on a holiday into a muslim country, you will not be allowed to behave or move freely outside of designated tourist zones and she will have to be wearing covering clothes at almost all times. Considering when muslims and their wifes come here they are free to act however they wish, that tells me more about muslims respecting our values then I could ever want to know. They do not think we are tolerant and progressive for allowing them to act and express freely within our society. They think we are weak, and that that weakness should be exploited. Such is the simple truth we refuse to see.
Until the muslim world frees itself from shackles of religion like the western world did two centuries ago, and general, secular, all-gender education becomes a thing we cannot treat them as the same people, because they simply are not.
Not that I advocate treating them like animals, but we need to be cautious when dealing with them, keep our distance and most importantly we cannot expect that people who have not had even what we consider the basics of education, can come here and live with us the same as we do.
Should you and your wife/girlfriend/mother/sister whatever go on a holiday into a muslim country, you will not be allowed to behave or move freely outside of designated tourist zones and she will have to be wearing covering clothes at almost all times. Considering when muslims and their wifes come here they are free to act however they wish, that tells me more about muslims respecting our values then I could ever want to know. They do not think we are tolerant and progressive for allowing them to act and express freely within our society. They think we are weak, and that that weakness should be exploited. Such is the simple truth we refuse to see.
Until the muslim world frees itself from shackles of religion like the western world did two centuries ago, and general, secular, all-gender education becomes a thing we cannot treat them as the same people, because they simply are not.
Not that I advocate treating them like animals, but we need to be cautious when dealing with them, keep our distance and most importantly we cannot expect that people who have not had even what we consider the basics of education, can come here and live with us the same as we do.
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Shiny ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] How can the Islamic world be secularized without concepts of secularism being introduced, though? Modern theocracies like Saudi Arabia and Iran aren't merely tolerated by foreign nations, they're encouraged because they are of use economically. It is expedient for leaders to keep people in the dark because a superstitious populace is a pliable, controllable one, and if the Middle East is in a state of constant war... well, Metal Gear Solid 4 will partially become real.
I agree wholeheartedly that we need to be careful when letting people in from volatile places, Islamic or not. But unfair prejudice against them is a real thing that is itself an affront to Western values.
I agree wholeheartedly that we need to be careful when letting people in from volatile places, Islamic or not. But unfair prejudice against them is a real thing that is itself an affront to Western values.
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cptsweatpants (01/11/2016) [-] Aye, in many ways the west keeps pouring oil onto the flame, that's why I mentioned the keeping of distance. They do not want our meddling and we cannot help them anyway, the step from religious to secular states and from dictators to democracy is something every society must do itself, you can't force it on people. Sadly we do need their resources. Politics is a bitch. All the more reason to keep all the mess strictly contained in middle east and not let it spill over however.
Yes, it is unfair and prejudiced and a billion other things. But to them. They are not us. They did not build Europe with their sweat and blood. That was us. And with the same resolve we need to protect what we have. Our people need to come first, that is the only logical and stable way to keep your society together. Otherwise, what and who are we doing it all for. We need to remember who we are, we need to draw the line and stand firmly by it tart waving some flags again. We need to be unfair and harsh. That is the only way forward.
When Hungary as the first country in europe closed their borders they recieved a tremendous of flak. Yet no one had the right to say a thing. Hungary is hungarian and if they did not wish unhcecked hordes of foreigners on their soil then that is within their full right and no one can say a thing. Who then decides what should go on within a country other than it's people. The citizens are the highest authority and everything that is done should benefit them in the first place. Many european countries seem to have forgotten this simple thing. Funnily enough the only voices of reason in this mess that is the migration crisis are Hungary, Czech Republic, Poland And Slovakia. All countries that have been occupied and divided many times over in both recent and distant history, all countries that have had to constanly fight for their right to exist and their identity. Just about the only few countries in the european countries with some sense of national pride and identity still left within the general public.
Recently my country accepted thousands of refugees from Ukraine. Formerly czechs who have moved there in bulk in the 19th century. As they were caught in the middle of the conflict many requested repatriation and we aggreed to take them back paying for everything including their trip. They came here, were grateful to be here, started to re-learn the language as afast as they could and are slowly beggining to blend in. There were never any problems related to these people, despite us not introducing any form of indentity or background checks. Those were real and actual refugees.
Similarly many churches have a program where the church and it's flock adopt a christian from the war torn areas of middle east. They collect money to help them with their expenses, and volunteer to spend time with them to assist with shopping and introduce them to our way of life. No problems with any of these either. It is only the muslim "refugees" coming through us on their way to germany we have more issues than we can think of with. False documents, utter disrespect of authority, vandalism, death threats to state officials, littering... Not to mention we offer them all state asylum as per our law seeing as they claim to be refugees seeking help, but they all refuse it. They have no interest in our help. Their only interest is the german money. Last year we have brought over 3 muslim families with a military special because their children were sick and in need of medical treatment that could not be provided in any of the facilities available in middle east. One of those families never even bothered to go to the hospital and immediately ran into germany. And that was the whole family, not the usual young single good-for-nothings.
I used to be much much more liberal in my opinions not too long ago, I even aggreed with the idea to integrate the many refugees coming in then already, albeit in moderation. All that changed when I saw how they act.
Yes, it is unfair and prejudiced and a billion other things. But to them. They are not us. They did not build Europe with their sweat and blood. That was us. And with the same resolve we need to protect what we have. Our people need to come first, that is the only logical and stable way to keep your society together. Otherwise, what and who are we doing it all for. We need to remember who we are, we need to draw the line and stand firmly by it tart waving some flags again. We need to be unfair and harsh. That is the only way forward.
When Hungary as the first country in europe closed their borders they recieved a tremendous of flak. Yet no one had the right to say a thing. Hungary is hungarian and if they did not wish unhcecked hordes of foreigners on their soil then that is within their full right and no one can say a thing. Who then decides what should go on within a country other than it's people. The citizens are the highest authority and everything that is done should benefit them in the first place. Many european countries seem to have forgotten this simple thing. Funnily enough the only voices of reason in this mess that is the migration crisis are Hungary, Czech Republic, Poland And Slovakia. All countries that have been occupied and divided many times over in both recent and distant history, all countries that have had to constanly fight for their right to exist and their identity. Just about the only few countries in the european countries with some sense of national pride and identity still left within the general public.
Recently my country accepted thousands of refugees from Ukraine. Formerly czechs who have moved there in bulk in the 19th century. As they were caught in the middle of the conflict many requested repatriation and we aggreed to take them back paying for everything including their trip. They came here, were grateful to be here, started to re-learn the language as afast as they could and are slowly beggining to blend in. There were never any problems related to these people, despite us not introducing any form of indentity or background checks. Those were real and actual refugees.
Similarly many churches have a program where the church and it's flock adopt a christian from the war torn areas of middle east. They collect money to help them with their expenses, and volunteer to spend time with them to assist with shopping and introduce them to our way of life. No problems with any of these either. It is only the muslim "refugees" coming through us on their way to germany we have more issues than we can think of with. False documents, utter disrespect of authority, vandalism, death threats to state officials, littering... Not to mention we offer them all state asylum as per our law seeing as they claim to be refugees seeking help, but they all refuse it. They have no interest in our help. Their only interest is the german money. Last year we have brought over 3 muslim families with a military special because their children were sick and in need of medical treatment that could not be provided in any of the facilities available in middle east. One of those families never even bothered to go to the hospital and immediately ran into germany. And that was the whole family, not the usual young single good-for-nothings.
I used to be much much more liberal in my opinions not too long ago, I even aggreed with the idea to integrate the many refugees coming in then already, albeit in moderation. All that changed when I saw how they act.
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Shiny ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] It sounds like you have a lot of personal animosity towards them. I'm not European so I don't know how the situation exactly is, but I have heard a lot about people that say they used to be socially liberal until they saw how life "actually works", but this sounds like going from one kind of ignorant to another. All mainstream dialogue is ahistorical because even people who say they hate the history of their nations rarely know the complexities behind current events. These people are indoctrinated with anti-Western propaganda since birth, it's not inherent in Islam, regardless of whatever sect they arbitrary follow in it; it is the social engineering of the Saudi family, of the Iranian caliphate, etc, all people using faith as a tool to maintain power.
I absolutely agree that native Europeans should not be expected to suffer for it, but the government will never admit anything significant was their fault, and god knows the EU loves their oil bux.
I absolutely agree that native Europeans should not be expected to suffer for it, but the government will never admit anything significant was their fault, and god knows the EU loves their oil bux.
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cptsweatpants (01/11/2016) [-] I do. I did not use to have. I do now. Many europeans are now beggining to understand just how is it that Hitler was ever allowed to come to power, because we're getting dangerously close to that state. We are too far in for any simple measures to be taken. What needs to be done now is harsh and uncompromising. And even that is damn near angelic compared to what would have to be done about 10 years later, and there will always be someone crazy enough to do it. Any sensible people with a bit of foresight see this, you hear the voices rising from many politicians, or writers more and more, "let's cut off a few fingers before we have to cut the whole arm" sadly they are branded radical and racist and dismissed.
The situation here in europe is becoming critical. The citizens are being straight up lied to, the goverments attempt to control us via popular media, political corectness is being used as an excuse for shameless censorship, any criticism is dismissed as racism. The people are starting to radicalize, I myself being a good example, what used to be violent marches of skinheads and the radical right wing became public rallies of thousands of people, we are getting desperate, the politicians act out in complete oppossite to the public wishes. If you told the average european that you are going out to teach them immigrants some manners he won't join you yet, but he might just lend you a bat. What is now animosity and caution will be straight up hate soon enough.
And it's only getting worse. We didn't like them before, but after what happened in Koln and the whole of germany, and not just there, on new years... let's just say the tension is quickly increasing. Thousands of people robbed, hundreds of women sexually assaulted, rapes including underage girls. And what did the authorities do? No more than a couple dozen arrests were made that night, On the first of january the police reported there were no issues or unrest going on the previous night while the social media were alrady blowing up with what the **** is going on. It wasn't until 3 days later that the news and politicians finnaly reported on the thing, straight up lying and denying any connection to the "refugees". It wasn't until 5 days later that they admitted some of them were asylum seekers. It is only now that they are beggining to admit that all the perpetrators were in fact immigrants. When PEGIDA organized a rally to protest it was quickly dispersed with pepper spray and water cannons, with dozens of arrests being made. Where was police action like that on the new years eve? Even the ranking police officers rebelled and have spoken out en mass that they have been ordered to cover up the events of new years eve. We are being manipulated like sheep while our countries are being sold out. It's bad here in europe and it's only getting worse, we're on the track right for some sci-fi dystopia and if things continue the way they do we'll be there in no more then 10 years. Only this time there won't be stars with Jude on them, but half-moons with Muslim. Do I want that? Absolutely not. But I'd rather have that than have my daughter wear a burqa.
The situation here in europe is becoming critical. The citizens are being straight up lied to, the goverments attempt to control us via popular media, political corectness is being used as an excuse for shameless censorship, any criticism is dismissed as racism. The people are starting to radicalize, I myself being a good example, what used to be violent marches of skinheads and the radical right wing became public rallies of thousands of people, we are getting desperate, the politicians act out in complete oppossite to the public wishes. If you told the average european that you are going out to teach them immigrants some manners he won't join you yet, but he might just lend you a bat. What is now animosity and caution will be straight up hate soon enough.
And it's only getting worse. We didn't like them before, but after what happened in Koln and the whole of germany, and not just there, on new years... let's just say the tension is quickly increasing. Thousands of people robbed, hundreds of women sexually assaulted, rapes including underage girls. And what did the authorities do? No more than a couple dozen arrests were made that night, On the first of january the police reported there were no issues or unrest going on the previous night while the social media were alrady blowing up with what the **** is going on. It wasn't until 3 days later that the news and politicians finnaly reported on the thing, straight up lying and denying any connection to the "refugees". It wasn't until 5 days later that they admitted some of them were asylum seekers. It is only now that they are beggining to admit that all the perpetrators were in fact immigrants. When PEGIDA organized a rally to protest it was quickly dispersed with pepper spray and water cannons, with dozens of arrests being made. Where was police action like that on the new years eve? Even the ranking police officers rebelled and have spoken out en mass that they have been ordered to cover up the events of new years eve. We are being manipulated like sheep while our countries are being sold out. It's bad here in europe and it's only getting worse, we're on the track right for some sci-fi dystopia and if things continue the way they do we'll be there in no more then 10 years. Only this time there won't be stars with Jude on them, but half-moons with Muslim. Do I want that? Absolutely not. But I'd rather have that than have my daughter wear a burqa.
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Shiny ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] Now I think you're being pretty ******* paranoid, because even by lenient estimates, the situation still hasn't reached anything close to "critical mass", so to speak. It absolutely could, and this should be prevented, but nothing inhumane will be required. You should have been vetting and identifying them from the get-go, and getting rid of the entrants that commit crimes.
What's missing here is wondering what the ulterior motives are on part of the government and IMO, it's plain and simple neoliberalism, an attempt to flood the job market with young, fighting-age males without education and much lower standards for living. Automation is killing existing work and the native populace doesn't want to work for pennies like a useful idiot. Political correctness is a useful lens for analyzing how control is maintained, but it does not explain reasoning. What could the government and corporate investors possibly have to gain from it? Even people who demand such language policing in their own lives only want to avoid actual change while still feeling good about themselves, and the crisis definitely qualifies as change.
What's missing here is wondering what the ulterior motives are on part of the government and IMO, it's plain and simple neoliberalism, an attempt to flood the job market with young, fighting-age males without education and much lower standards for living. Automation is killing existing work and the native populace doesn't want to work for pennies like a useful idiot. Political correctness is a useful lens for analyzing how control is maintained, but it does not explain reasoning. What could the government and corporate investors possibly have to gain from it? Even people who demand such language policing in their own lives only want to avoid actual change while still feeling good about themselves, and the crisis definitely qualifies as change.
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cptsweatpants (01/11/2016) [-] I feel like I should point out the root of the issue for clarity. We do not have a problem with them because they are not like us. We have a problem with them because they do not WANT to be like us. They come here, yet they do not want to live in Europe. They want to live in Saudi Arabia with benefits.
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cptsweatpants (01/11/2016) [-] I wish I was being paranoid. i think on that myself pretty often. Then I go and read the news and I'm all set in my ways again. It's hard to convey if you're not here to soak the situation in yourself. As I said the media is being heavily manipulated, so little of the actual truth gets out. We ourselves barely get to know what's going on. I expect the rest of the world knows even less.
Aye, we should have been, but didn't I just talk about that? Even a mention of any sort of border control got you branded a racist and your opinion automatically dismissed. When Hungary finnaly said they've had enough of that **** they got ostracized by everyone except the Visegrad Four. Nobody even bothered to introduce any sort of border control. Basically every standing law that european union has about border control is being violated and very little is being done about it. The immigration laws and rules are so bent, impractical and chaotic that they are practically begging to be exploited. A dude without papers shows up in germany, says he lost them, makes up a name and origin and ta daa welcome to europe. And that's perfectly legal apparently. We cannot even send the criminals back, there is nowhere to send them back to. What authorities in Syria or Libya are there to take them over? How do we even know what their origin is anyway since none of them have any sort of valid papers?
There might be something like that somewhere at the bottom, or used to be at least. It's what officially started up the policy of open arms that's destroying us by now. We were drunk on equality and being open minded, wanting to take immigrants in, erase borders, take the European Union even further, thinking we could all live a better life together. I did say I shared in that train of thought before this whole thing too. We had no idea what were getting ourselves into then. The whole sharade has been taken over by leftist radicals and idealists who see the world through pink glasses since then. They are literally just letting them in for the sake of letting them in. When the swedish minister responsible for immigration had to announce they can't take any more in she actually broke down and cried. Her country is spending enormous funds on benefits, there is a housing shortage, swedish women can't walk past asylum centres without getting raped, sometimes even twice in a row, by different migrants (I'm not kidding this actually happened), majority of the immigrants has failed to find work even after months in the country, and the stupid cow feels sorry she can't take any more in. That's the kind of **** we have to deal with here. But god help you if you tell them to wash their hands after they take a **** in the shower, because that's racist. This also happened in one bavarian town where the mayor dared to print out a leaflet to combat the increasing hygiene crisis.
Aye, we should have been, but didn't I just talk about that? Even a mention of any sort of border control got you branded a racist and your opinion automatically dismissed. When Hungary finnaly said they've had enough of that **** they got ostracized by everyone except the Visegrad Four. Nobody even bothered to introduce any sort of border control. Basically every standing law that european union has about border control is being violated and very little is being done about it. The immigration laws and rules are so bent, impractical and chaotic that they are practically begging to be exploited. A dude without papers shows up in germany, says he lost them, makes up a name and origin and ta daa welcome to europe. And that's perfectly legal apparently. We cannot even send the criminals back, there is nowhere to send them back to. What authorities in Syria or Libya are there to take them over? How do we even know what their origin is anyway since none of them have any sort of valid papers?
There might be something like that somewhere at the bottom, or used to be at least. It's what officially started up the policy of open arms that's destroying us by now. We were drunk on equality and being open minded, wanting to take immigrants in, erase borders, take the European Union even further, thinking we could all live a better life together. I did say I shared in that train of thought before this whole thing too. We had no idea what were getting ourselves into then. The whole sharade has been taken over by leftist radicals and idealists who see the world through pink glasses since then. They are literally just letting them in for the sake of letting them in. When the swedish minister responsible for immigration had to announce they can't take any more in she actually broke down and cried. Her country is spending enormous funds on benefits, there is a housing shortage, swedish women can't walk past asylum centres without getting raped, sometimes even twice in a row, by different migrants (I'm not kidding this actually happened), majority of the immigrants has failed to find work even after months in the country, and the stupid cow feels sorry she can't take any more in. That's the kind of **** we have to deal with here. But god help you if you tell them to wash their hands after they take a **** in the shower, because that's racist. This also happened in one bavarian town where the mayor dared to print out a leaflet to combat the increasing hygiene crisis.
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Shiny ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] If you don't know what the full picture is because it's being withheld, then maybe you're more afraid of the government orchestrating it than the refugees involved? They control who comes in and out, after all, so it does follow. It could be exactly what they want: it's hard to understand the nuances of a governing body you have no experience with, but you can see the guy in front of you plain as day.
"There might be something like that somewhere at the bottom, or used to be at least. It's what officially started up the policy of open arms that's destroying us by now. We were drunk on equality and being open minded, wanting to take immigrants in, erase borders, take the European Union even further, thinking we could all live a better life together."
No offense, but that sounds pretty stupid when political instability is a fact of life outside of the first world; I say this as someone most Americans would consider far left. There's a difference between being intolerant and pragmatic, even if some imbeciles think they're one in the same.
"There might be something like that somewhere at the bottom, or used to be at least. It's what officially started up the policy of open arms that's destroying us by now. We were drunk on equality and being open minded, wanting to take immigrants in, erase borders, take the European Union even further, thinking we could all live a better life together."
No offense, but that sounds pretty stupid when political instability is a fact of life outside of the first world; I say this as someone most Americans would consider far left. There's a difference between being intolerant and pragmatic, even if some imbeciles think they're one in the same.
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cptsweatpants (19 hours ago) [-] Yes, that is a large part of the problem.There's a difference between what is actually happening and what they tell us. I did say political corectness became an excuse for censorship. The press avoids every mention of the word immigrant, or the colour of the skin of the criminals. In a recent women trafficking case in the UK the press has taken to calling the accused asian, to hide the fact they are muslim Paki's. But the truth still gets around. We're being lied to and manipulated, and that is probably what scares us the most. This politically correct madness and europe's identity crisis have been going for some time, a calamity waiting to happen. Immigration crisis was just the catalyst.
It was pretty stupid. But we believed it. It was working here just fine, all of europe is on farily similar values, national borders were all opened, one could go anywhere else in europe and your only obstacle was the language. The public opinion in most countries was shifting towards becoming a federation, to stand up to the pressure from both US and Russia and form our own block of power. But then came the economy crisis, all that stuff with the mediterranen countries, it was a pretty ugly wake up. So then of course euro scepticism was on the rise, people started to ask, what exactly are we and where are we going with this union thing and nobody could give a decent answer. You hear politicians talking about "european values" but nobody even knows what those are, we slipped from an economical crisis right into an identity one, suddenly Katalania wanted it's own state, Bavaria further independence from Germany, UK back out of the union, Greece still wanted money and Brussesls started to advocate taking in all the migrants they found in the mediterranen sea and forcibly placing them around into all EU countries by introducing quota. Then the migration crisis started and it was like pouring petrol on a forest fire.
You have no idea how much of the political process in europe is controlled by activists and has various stupid rules and boundaries. Our diverse histories are both a blessing and a course. Germans cannot be against multi-kulti because that gets them branded nazis and that is punishable by law. The **** that gets commited here in the name of cultural enrichment is increbile. And it has no good reason. The swedish got to where they are because they voted their goverment full of feminists and "progressive thinkers" in order to distance themselves from their past of colaboration, the swedes felt like they had something to attone for. So over the years their government distilled into radical and naive leftists who believe that sweden has no culture of it's own that needs to be protected. That they needed the immigrants to culturally enrich them, that they need to take in as much as possible regardless of the economical situation or social consequences.. And the EU administrative is full of naive nut-jobs like that. They aren't voted for they merely apply for the job and the whole European Union deal naturally draws these types of people to it. Someone who thinks there is something wrong with what the european union is doing and it's direction is not gonna go work for it now is he... Treat as if we have feminazis in the government because that is kinda what we have going on. Things were good so no one gave two ***** about politics so it was taken over by activists who were the last to still care. And suddenly there's a crisis and these people who couldn't find their own arse to stick their head into even if you gave them written instructions are supposed to rule us and solve it. And we can all see in the news how well that is going. After the attacks in Cologne, the mayor of the city, she herself female, suggested that the solution is women dressing modestly, moving in groups and keeping men at an arms length at all times. God forbid the migrants are at fault. Oh nonono, our women are. These people are some sort of cultural cucks.
It was pretty stupid. But we believed it. It was working here just fine, all of europe is on farily similar values, national borders were all opened, one could go anywhere else in europe and your only obstacle was the language. The public opinion in most countries was shifting towards becoming a federation, to stand up to the pressure from both US and Russia and form our own block of power. But then came the economy crisis, all that stuff with the mediterranen countries, it was a pretty ugly wake up. So then of course euro scepticism was on the rise, people started to ask, what exactly are we and where are we going with this union thing and nobody could give a decent answer. You hear politicians talking about "european values" but nobody even knows what those are, we slipped from an economical crisis right into an identity one, suddenly Katalania wanted it's own state, Bavaria further independence from Germany, UK back out of the union, Greece still wanted money and Brussesls started to advocate taking in all the migrants they found in the mediterranen sea and forcibly placing them around into all EU countries by introducing quota. Then the migration crisis started and it was like pouring petrol on a forest fire.
You have no idea how much of the political process in europe is controlled by activists and has various stupid rules and boundaries. Our diverse histories are both a blessing and a course. Germans cannot be against multi-kulti because that gets them branded nazis and that is punishable by law. The **** that gets commited here in the name of cultural enrichment is increbile. And it has no good reason. The swedish got to where they are because they voted their goverment full of feminists and "progressive thinkers" in order to distance themselves from their past of colaboration, the swedes felt like they had something to attone for. So over the years their government distilled into radical and naive leftists who believe that sweden has no culture of it's own that needs to be protected. That they needed the immigrants to culturally enrich them, that they need to take in as much as possible regardless of the economical situation or social consequences.. And the EU administrative is full of naive nut-jobs like that. They aren't voted for they merely apply for the job and the whole European Union deal naturally draws these types of people to it. Someone who thinks there is something wrong with what the european union is doing and it's direction is not gonna go work for it now is he... Treat as if we have feminazis in the government because that is kinda what we have going on. Things were good so no one gave two ***** about politics so it was taken over by activists who were the last to still care. And suddenly there's a crisis and these people who couldn't find their own arse to stick their head into even if you gave them written instructions are supposed to rule us and solve it. And we can all see in the news how well that is going. After the attacks in Cologne, the mayor of the city, she herself female, suggested that the solution is women dressing modestly, moving in groups and keeping men at an arms length at all times. God forbid the migrants are at fault. Oh nonono, our women are. These people are some sort of cultural cucks.
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Shiny ONLINE (13 hours ago) [-] "Germans cannot be against multi-kulti because that gets them branded nazis and that is punishable by law."
I'm not gonna lie, it sounds like the EU neo-liberal sprawl and "safe" restrictions on free speech set you down this path a long time ago.
Political correctness in its modern sense is a symptom, not a disease. A government isn't going to do things that make people extremely upset--including minorities of any kind--to prevent people from being offended. It makes zero sense.
I'm not gonna lie, it sounds like the EU neo-liberal sprawl and "safe" restrictions on free speech set you down this path a long time ago.
Political correctness in its modern sense is a symptom, not a disease. A government isn't going to do things that make people extremely upset--including minorities of any kind--to prevent people from being offended. It makes zero sense.
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cptsweatpants (12 hours ago) [-] Yes, like I said Europe has been having a major identity crisis in about the past 5 years. This whole thing with the migrants came at a terrible time. Everyone agrees we need to defend european values, except no one can quite agree on what they are. It's like we still have the last couple lines of the equasion missing but the teacher is asking us to hand in the test already.
Indeed it doesn't, which is why it's so shocking that they are doing it. Like I said the government officials have straight up lied to us on multiple occasions and have been exposed. In fact in the wake of Cologne many government cover ups regarding migrants are suddenly surfacing. Now lying to people like that makes them terribly upset, I'm sure they knew that. yet they did it. To protect whom exactly? The ones who committed the crimes? Themselves to cover their enormous **** up? It is quite clear that it was in no way beneficial to the citizens, that's for sure.
Indeed it doesn't, which is why it's so shocking that they are doing it. Like I said the government officials have straight up lied to us on multiple occasions and have been exposed. In fact in the wake of Cologne many government cover ups regarding migrants are suddenly surfacing. Now lying to people like that makes them terribly upset, I'm sure they knew that. yet they did it. To protect whom exactly? The ones who committed the crimes? Themselves to cover their enormous **** up? It is quite clear that it was in no way beneficial to the citizens, that's for sure.
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cptsweatpants (01/11/2016) [-] But catholics and protestants do not stone each other for belonging to either church.
And the more important thing, the small percent willing to tolerate western society does not call the others non-muslim. They call them radicals. Radicals are not people who practise their religion incorrectly. They are merely people who practise it to the letter. And if you read the Quran you'll see that is the truth. The cutting heads off, the stoning, the taxes for other religions, slavery, the command to spread islam at all costs and with violenece, the option to lie about the nature of you religion when convenient... All those things. They are all written there within their holy books. And yes indeed, many such things are written within the bible too you could say. But we have not been doing them for 200 years now, meanwhile the muslims had no renaissance and enlightment age. Culturally they are still exactly the same they were more than a 100 years ago. Some enclaves even older than that.
And the more important thing, the small percent willing to tolerate western society does not call the others non-muslim. They call them radicals. Radicals are not people who practise their religion incorrectly. They are merely people who practise it to the letter. And if you read the Quran you'll see that is the truth. The cutting heads off, the stoning, the taxes for other religions, slavery, the command to spread islam at all costs and with violenece, the option to lie about the nature of you religion when convenient... All those things. They are all written there within their holy books. And yes indeed, many such things are written within the bible too you could say. But we have not been doing them for 200 years now, meanwhile the muslims had no renaissance and enlightment age. Culturally they are still exactly the same they were more than a 100 years ago. Some enclaves even older than that.
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Shiny ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] Violence between Catholics and Protestants was not only a historical fact, but a recent one. Belfast, anyone?
I agree that the religions are ultimately what motivates individuals to commit atrocities, but religious violence through human history can be traced back directly to material conditions and economic circumstances. The Crusades, for example, are a common target by anti-Christian fedoras, but wealth and debt were a substantial factor.
I agree that the religions are ultimately what motivates individuals to commit atrocities, but religious violence through human history can be traced back directly to material conditions and economic circumstances. The Crusades, for example, are a common target by anti-Christian fedoras, but wealth and debt were a substantial factor.
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cptsweatpants (01/11/2016) [-] The situation with the irish radicals is much more political then a simple case of religious unrest. They fought because thay wanted Ireland to Irish, not because the english were protestant. The difference of religion was just extra kindling for the already burning fire.
History is the key word here. We have long since moved on from that phase, the muslims have not, and as such don't even comprehend that we have and what that means. So in the end we have no option but to remember that europe was once christian and that our society is based on christian values. And that we have to defend ,uphold and build upon these values if we wish our children to live in a better world than we have. We are very much at war with the muslim world right now. Not with weapons, but with our values and morals and so far we are losing. Hell, right now, we are not even fighting back.
History is the key word here. We have long since moved on from that phase, the muslims have not, and as such don't even comprehend that we have and what that means. So in the end we have no option but to remember that europe was once christian and that our society is based on christian values. And that we have to defend ,uphold and build upon these values if we wish our children to live in a better world than we have. We are very much at war with the muslim world right now. Not with weapons, but with our values and morals and so far we are losing. Hell, right now, we are not even fighting back.
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Shiny ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] Thing is that the Middle East was on that track until being on said track meant no longer being an international oil reservoir, so the US and occasionally the UK put them in their place with more monarchism. Tehran used to be an avant-garde place before the Islamic revolution.
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cptsweatpants (01/11/2016) [-] It was always on the verge of the abyss, the US were just giving it a push here and there. It is important to note that even before they are muslims the middle east is still actually a tribal society. One tribe can rule the country and drive it towards progress, while the rest remain radical and wait for the opportunity to ocme down from the mountains and put the country right back where it was a hundred years ago. Why do you think peace can never be achieved in middle eastern countries? it's because they do not want peace. They bloody hate each other almost as much as they do us. Why do you think the revolution in Syria happened? It is nothing but a tribal war of the other tribes against the ruling Alavites and Assad. And as soon as Assad was weak enough to let go of the reins they started fighting each other as well. Then the religious radicals saw an oppurtinity and threw their lot into it. It was the same **** in Iraq, it was the same **** in Libya, it was the same **** in Egypt. These people might have 21st century technology, but half of them still mentally lives in the dark ages and it's gonna be some hundreds of years before that changes, if it ever will. In the meanwhile we need to make sure they do not drag us back down with them as they would very much like to.
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Shiny ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] The revolution in Syria happened because people saw Al-Assad as an imperialist sockpuppet. It might not be true, but it's based on real concerns about his regime. The appeal of Islamism was very niche in some of these nations before complaints over puppet leaders reached an apex; the socially conservative Muslims seized the opportunity to appeal to populism. And when violence became a political norm, the same justifications were there: we aren't invading their nations, so we aren't inhuman for doing it.
These people felt exactly the same as people in Europe do now. All they wanted is their countries to not be used for economic pillaging. And while people skeptical of immigration policies generally mean well, there is a very real reactionary clique in Western European politics. I doubt they will ever gain power, but the savagery is still there. It simply does not matter because it is obsolete as a form of thought.
These people felt exactly the same as people in Europe do now. All they wanted is their countries to not be used for economic pillaging. And while people skeptical of immigration policies generally mean well, there is a very real reactionary clique in Western European politics. I doubt they will ever gain power, but the savagery is still there. It simply does not matter because it is obsolete as a form of thought.
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cptsweatpants (01/11/2016) [-] You are simply incorrect there. It happened because Assad and the Alavites were in power and while they were, they were getting preferential treatment. The other tribes obviously objected to that and rebelled at first opportunity, the movement quickly fell apart on accounts of it's perpetrators hating each other as much as they do Assad. They never wanted a better Syria, all they ever wanted was to be in Assad's place. They never had a common goal, just a common enemy and as soon as his immediate threat was gone they turned on each other.
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cptsweatpants (01/11/2016) [-] "The majority of the syrian society" is what. As i just explained there is no such thing, only many minorities that hated each other. Syria was an assortment of tribes only held together by Assads dictatorship, the closest comparison I can give you is the USSR. Groups and ethnicities with little in common held together by sheer force. Such is the case for many middle eastern states, hence why the region is so unstable, as soon as the ruling power shows some weakness the whole thing falls apart.
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Shiny ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] Describing them as tribes is technically accurate, but this is because Syria is in the Fertile Crescent and these social groups are really, really ******* old. They are still involved in modern politics in the same way as any other political group. Some are pro-ISIS, others hate them, etc. if people in these tribes are savages, they are doing so either because of contemporary anti-Western indoctrination or a simple disregard for social norms.
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cptsweatpants (01/11/2016) [-] Brings us right around to the start. Like I said. In my opinion it's gonna be some time before these groups learn to live together and our meddling doesn't help at all, but sadly we do need their resources. That's what I say it's best to just contain the mess and not let it spill anywhere else. It's heartless I know, but to me it seems the best for us and in the end that's what ot's about. If there is another option I don't see it. My favourite question on the topic is what would happen to the middle east if someone came up with a technology that made oil obsolete.
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Shiny ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] I would argue that doing nothing would only let the Middle East build up into an ISIS power keg and that Western powers' hands have already been forced, but to each his own.
Your last sentence is interesting, though. My guess is that governments would be desperately bribed to cover it up for a time before it put the industry out of business.
Your last sentence is interesting, though. My guess is that governments would be desperately bribed to cover it up for a time before it put the industry out of business.
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cptsweatpants (01/11/2016) [-] Bombing ISIS is about as helpful as a winter coat to a dead man. There's already multiple groups just as radical as ISIS waiting to step right in after them, should they dissappear. At least we'd stop giving them reasons to hate us even more than they already do. And without the common enemy in the area they might just get around to sorting things inbetween themselves.
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Shiny ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] Well, ISIS only came to power because foreign intervention left a large power vacuum. People willing to pledge allegiance to their Wahhabist cult weirdness (even by Muslim standards) are treated as citizens of a self-declared nation complete with public services and civil defense. So filling in that power vacuum again may be necessary.
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orangesarenice (01/11/2016) [-]
Wait, i dont think the guys doing this are particularly religious.
Because back in "evil shariah law" they'd be killed and then called barbaric by the western world
Maybe that does not fit into the narrative of Funnyjunk.
Because back in "evil shariah law" they'd be killed and then called barbaric by the western world
Maybe that does not fit into the narrative of Funnyjunk.
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distortedflare ONLINE (01/10/2016) [-] **** you. it's Funny Junk, filled with idiots. who cares about grammar?
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funnyhard (01/10/2016) [-] That's jsut literally what happened in Germany and there are really ignorant Islamophile ***** who thumb this down?
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dantemp (01/11/2016) [-] No, it's not. I don't know of even one instance of actual straight up rape, let alone gang rape. There were "multiple instances of harassment and three cases that amount to rape", I thought our community didn't like labeling everything as rape. And I highly doubt that the police will not deal with the borderline cases. What the other side of the argument is trying to achieve is to not let extreme opponents to the refugees acceptance use it as a means to discredit the whole undertaking. And I'm very sad to see how easy it is for them...
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funnyhard (22 hours ago) [-] ' **** off'! What a mature response! Are you really that dense? The German police says they are SYRIAN citzens: one an accepted refugee, the other one seeking asylum. They knew their victims and raped them. So you say rape is okay?
www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/110970/3218826
www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/110970/3218826
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dantemp (22 hours ago) [-] I had to dig into the comments to find your sources (which you imply that are in my face, because of course you have to get personal to win an internet argument) and only saw one in german. I see that the article is saying what you are saying, but I can't read the details and I don't know which german newssite are credible, can you give me one in English?
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funnyhard (01/10/2016) [-] Hey theruinedsage, you retarded cunt, you can block me but you cannot block the truth. Check this out (translated from German):
4 Syrians RAPED 2 underaged girls (14 & 15 ages) SEVERAL TIMES in Freiburg (GERMANY) on New Year's Eve:
deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2016/01/07/freiburg-zwei-minderjaehrige-maedchen-von-4-maennern-vergewaltigt/
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German Police isn't allowed to publish refugee's crimes:
deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2016/01/09/hessen-und-nrw-polizei-darf-vergehen-von-fluechtlingen-nicht-oeffentlich-machen/
Thank God we have idiots like you who can only repeat the propaganda the mainstream media told them. Ignorance is bliss.
4 Syrians RAPED 2 underaged girls (14 & 15 ages) SEVERAL TIMES in Freiburg (GERMANY) on New Year's Eve:
deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2016/01/07/freiburg-zwei-minderjaehrige-maedchen-von-4-maennern-vergewaltigt/
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German Police isn't allowed to publish refugee's crimes:
deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2016/01/09/hessen-und-nrw-polizei-darf-vergehen-von-fluechtlingen-nicht-oeffentlich-machen/
Thank God we have idiots like you who can only repeat the propaganda the mainstream media told them. Ignorance is bliss.
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eratormortimer (01/10/2016) [-] Nice "sources" you have there.
www.vice.com/de/read/wie-serioes-sind-die-deutschen-wirtschafts-nachrichten-283
Basicly DWN is as good as a source for news as fox is
www.vice.com/de/read/wie-serioes-sind-die-deutschen-wirtschafts-nachrichten-283
Basicly DWN is as good as a source for news as fox is
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itssakamoto (01/10/2016) [-] >vice as a source
Might as well use huffpost and kotaku too
Might as well use huffpost and kotaku too
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eratormortimer (01/10/2016) [-] Have a ton more sources on the reliability of DWN
netzpolitik.org/2014/medienkompetenz-fuer-einsteiger-deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten/
www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/verschwoerungstheorien-der-kopp-verlag-macht-geschaefte-mit-der-angst-a-967704.html
even wikipedia de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Maier_ (Journalist)
even a really good youtube video www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J6qVDsv-kM
I just used vice because i think the article is pretty well written
netzpolitik.org/2014/medienkompetenz-fuer-einsteiger-deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten/
www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/verschwoerungstheorien-der-kopp-verlag-macht-geschaefte-mit-der-angst-a-967704.html
even wikipedia de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Maier_ (Journalist)
even a really good youtube video www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J6qVDsv-kM
I just used vice because i think the article is pretty well written
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funnyhard (01/10/2016) [-] >quoting its competitor spiegel.de
that's where I stopped reading your post, mane.
that's where I stopped reading your post, mane.
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eratormortimer (01/10/2016) [-] lol all news web sites are competitors. But if every other news website says DWN does not work journalisticly....
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funnyhard (01/10/2016) [-] >every other news website
Yeah, there were times 'when every other news website' told us there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq so it was ok to attack other countries. You don't even have your own opinion, mane. You just simply repeat what 'every other news website' writes and think what they want you to think.
Yeah, there were times 'when every other news website' told us there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq so it was ok to attack other countries. You don't even have your own opinion, mane. You just simply repeat what 'every other news website' writes and think what they want you to think.
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eratormortimer (01/10/2016) [-] nope, not really. I read a lot of news every day, and get my opinion by carefully weigh all of them. But there are facts for everything, and just ignoring them because "Some news portal I think is dumb" wrote about it is just stupid. Thats basicly the argument "Lügenpresse" from Pegida
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eratormortimer (01/10/2016) [-] I ignor them as you ignor spiegel.de . The other news sites you mention where a lot better
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catpisseverdeen (01/11/2016) [-] Could've sworn Der Spiegel came out and said they've lied about the Muslims before. Why should I trust them now?
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wilhelmwhiskey (01/10/2016) [-]
haha spiegel as a source
this magazin went down the hills years ago
they do not even allow comments on articles anymore
go to bbc, nytimes, washingtonpost, die welt, sueddeutsche, der standart, focus etc and look what the wrote
this magazin went down the hills years ago
they do not even allow comments on articles anymore
go to bbc, nytimes, washingtonpost, die welt, sueddeutsche, der standart, focus etc and look what the wrote
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Jowi (01/11/2016) [-]
The BBC has published an article where they interviewed the local police force who stated they had no reason to suspect it was the refugees who did the sex attacks
Funnyhard because CBA to write loads of answers.
You talk about unreliable news sources and then post ****** anti-immigration magazine based sources. Are either of you even from Germany to make a comment on whats happened or have you just received all your information from here and other websites?
Funnyhard because CBA to write loads of answers.
You talk about unreliable news sources and then post ****** anti-immigration magazine based sources. Are either of you even from Germany to make a comment on whats happened or have you just received all your information from here and other websites?
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wilhelmwhiskey (23 hours ago) [-]
yes i am from germany. the problem is, that most magazins do not inform people anymore but are trying to spin a narrative. spiegel.de for example has been critized a lot for this kind of behavior. even the ÖR (public broadcast stations) often do not report on specific topics. civil war in jemen is hardly reported on.
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funnyhard (01/10/2016) [-] They're just publishing the official statements of the German police and your 'source' is simply another pathetic attempt to discredit any competition on the news market that dares to speak against the mainstream media and its opinion they force upon everyone.
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eratormortimer (01/10/2016) [-] then i bet you can easily provide some other sources for the stuff you just posted
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funnyhard (01/10/2016) [-] here ya go -
official Freiburg police site:
www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/110970/3218826
local press:
www.badische-zeitung.de/weil-am-rhein/zwei-minderjaehrige-maedchen-in-der-silvesternacht-vergewaltigt--115923738.html
local attourney:
www.rheinneckarblog.de/07/die-maedchen-haben-grossen-mut-bewiesen/88788.html
all the links are literally in the articles I posted before - hence you didn't even read them only trying to talk **** .
official Freiburg police site:
www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/110970/3218826
local press:
www.badische-zeitung.de/weil-am-rhein/zwei-minderjaehrige-maedchen-in-der-silvesternacht-vergewaltigt--115923738.html
local attourney:
www.rheinneckarblog.de/07/die-maedchen-haben-grossen-mut-bewiesen/88788.html
all the links are literally in the articles I posted before - hence you didn't even read them only trying to talk **** .
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eratormortimer (01/10/2016) [-] Cool, these really are pretty good sources, thanks. So these guys are the same age as the girls + they where the girlfriends of them? Normally fj defends these guys and crys about feminazis trying to bring some poor dudes in prison lol
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eratormortimer (01/10/2016) [-] Lol please keep Bild out of this Bild is not even a real newspaper anymore, just tits on a lot of big pages. And I did not intend to degrade this, sry if it seemed like that. But this matter is a lot less scary if you know that they were the same age and thtese girls where the girlsfriends of the guys.
There is a huge difference between "4 Syrians RAPED 2 underaged girls (14 & 15 ages) SEVERAL TIMES in Freiburg (GERMANY) on New Year's Eve: "
and
"4 Teenagers and 1 man are accused of raping two girls"
There is a huge difference between "4 Syrians RAPED 2 underaged girls (14 & 15 ages) SEVERAL TIMES in Freiburg (GERMANY) on New Year's Eve: "
and
"4 Teenagers and 1 man are accused of raping two girls"
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gux (01/10/2016) [-] What we need to talk about is how to execute ******* traitor cucks like you, and get rid of these ******* refugees.
Media will do ANYTHING to cover up for these slimy assholes, i don't get why people still want to protect them after they **** up our countries.
Go to Syria if you like these assholes so much. and while you're there make sure you get decapitated you inbred ************ .
Media will do ANYTHING to cover up for these slimy assholes, i don't get why people still want to protect them after they **** up our countries.
Go to Syria if you like these assholes so much. and while you're there make sure you get decapitated you inbred ************ .
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erotictentacle ONLINE (01/10/2016) [-] I think its better to house the refuges that the government can't handle in households of people who support such mass-immigration.
Im sure then a solution will be found much quicker
Im sure then a solution will be found much quicker
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gux (01/11/2016) [-] Well, i have 1000 ******* migrants living in my small piece of **** town, that's like half the original population, i know how it is to have migrants ******* EVERYWHERE. you would think they would be grateful for having somewhere to stay eat etc, with questions barley asked.
But NO they piss on us for it, they don't give a flying **** if they cause problems for other people.
I've been living in this hole for 7 years, and just during the months they have been here, i have seen the cops and firefighters go to their ******* refugee homes more than i have during my 7 years of living here, they keep causing problems with the local traffic, harassing teenage girls, breaking in to the few stores and **** we have here. i've lost my ******* patience for them, so shove a cock in your mouth and shut the **** up, i see what they do EVERY single ******* day.
But NO they piss on us for it, they don't give a flying **** if they cause problems for other people.
I've been living in this hole for 7 years, and just during the months they have been here, i have seen the cops and firefighters go to their ******* refugee homes more than i have during my 7 years of living here, they keep causing problems with the local traffic, harassing teenage girls, breaking in to the few stores and **** we have here. i've lost my ******* patience for them, so shove a cock in your mouth and shut the **** up, i see what they do EVERY single ******* day.
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ekusas (01/10/2016) [-]
Funny how thats eactly what happend you fat inbred cuck of a *********** . Filthy racetraitor scumbag, i legit hope you choke in your sleep.
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
Massrape is not even on the same page of importance as gay marriage. Are you saying that we should just stop talking about it and accept it because you kinda dont care anymore? Congratulations, youre the perfect citizen
I dont know if you gave a thumb down too, Im just adressing you vicarious for everyone that did
I can understand If youre from some place where this whole thing is just not relevant, but I live in Germany, and I want this to be adressed as often as possible, because over here are going exactly as I described top
I dont know if you gave a thumb down too, Im just adressing you vicarious for everyone that did
I can understand If youre from some place where this whole thing is just not relevant, but I live in Germany, and I want this to be adressed as often as possible, because over here are going exactly as I described top
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Shiny ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] No, I'm saying a site like Funnyjunk isn't made for serious topics. People aren't debating like mature adults, they're circlejerking over preconceived notions while blocking anyone that disagrees with them. Look at all of the retards shouting "traitor cuck" and generally acting like Twitter feminazis.
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anon (01/10/2016) [-]
I would assume the thumbs down are not about rapes actually occurring in the country as a result of poor vetting of immigrants, but about the obvious intention of the artist to overtly imply that the religion directly promotes the action (since the artist takes makes to make the rapists as stereotypically Islamic as possible, rather than just street hoodlums), as well as not making any indication that the artist makes any distinction between the rapists and other Muslims and/or refugees.
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kewlkrayfish (01/11/2016) [-] Hahaha it's kinda telling how they use the word "asian gangs". Asian has become a sort of catch-all name for muslims in the british media, regardless of their country of origin.
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unfitninjuh (01/11/2016) [-] >anaconda
I bet the bitch-ass mudslime who wrote that down has a 3 incher (when erect, that is)
I bet the bitch-ass mudslime who wrote that down has a 3 incher (when erect, that is)
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machomustachio (01/10/2016) [-] I don't understand exactly what's going on in this picture.
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opummagnus (01/10/2016) [-] It's pointing out how immigrants that are going into Germany have a "cheat sheet" of translated sentences for sex.
No idea if it's true though
No idea if it's true though
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sideoffreedom (01/11/2016) [-]
its a total ******* schill, Syrians and Afghanis have no relation whatsoever
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unfitninjuh (01/11/2016) [-] So what does it say? Can you correct the translation error? Is there a translation error? Will Goku defeat Freeza before Namek explodes?
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tarekmig (01/11/2016) [-] >بده
one error, that is not even a legit word, probably was written by a child or some **** .
>أتعرى
That's not even directed to a female, but to a male, unless that guy is a faggot. And it kinda wrong too, means something like "Become nude"
>أفرد
wtf? it was probably a faggot who wrote it. that could only be directed to a male and means "spread"
>تعال
This is directed a male.... means "come here"
Also syrians would pretty much use "Neek" "نييك" " **** " rather than "أمارس الجنس" which means "To have sex"
Though slut is correct, but that is an easy word to get translation of.
one error, that is not even a legit word, probably was written by a child or some **** .
>أتعرى
That's not even directed to a female, but to a male, unless that guy is a faggot. And it kinda wrong too, means something like "Become nude"
>أفرد
wtf? it was probably a faggot who wrote it. that could only be directed to a male and means "spread"
>تعال
This is directed a male.... means "come here"
Also syrians would pretty much use "Neek" "نييك" " **** " rather than "أمارس الجنس" which means "To have sex"
Though slut is correct, but that is an easy word to get translation of.
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bakinboy (01/11/2016) [-] >release thousands of sexy goats into the streets
>rape epidemic solved
>rape epidemic solved
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donatelo (01/10/2016) [-] United States has an excess of feminists...export them to middle eastern countries in a Trojan Horse vagina so they can fight them from within.
seriously though Im not a femenist by any means but the way sand ******* treat their women is disgusting.
seriously though Im not a femenist by any means but the way sand ******* treat their women is disgusting.
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terranrollerskates (01/11/2016) [-] **terranrollerskates used "*roll picture*"**
**terranrollerskates rolled image**Interesting phrasing, anon. The dehumanisation process is well on its way, then. Not that I'm disagreeing with you, mind, its because of our ability to understand & cooperate with each other that we have our levels of civilisation & technology across the world, which is what defines us as humans, the dominant species on the planet. Frankly this whole bungling by european authorities is pathetic, & we need to set our goddamn boundaries as nations unless we let this atavistic filth run rampant across our populations. There is no one who gets off easy in prison for raping someone.
We need to be careful, though. Should we allow matters to proceed as they are, we're gonna be dragged into a war for an upper class across the west, & while we're gone, the internet as we know it will be ripped up & changed into something else. I mean, America's quite ****** with the TPP & I'm waiting for the stories for irradiated shrimp from the pacific making health matters dire for Americans in general, but Europe needs to get its act together & do to our enemies foreign & domestic what Iceland did to its bankers from the 2008 depression.
Anyway, I hope what I rolled was amusing.
**terranrollerskates rolled image**Interesting phrasing, anon. The dehumanisation process is well on its way, then. Not that I'm disagreeing with you, mind, its because of our ability to understand & cooperate with each other that we have our levels of civilisation & technology across the world, which is what defines us as humans, the dominant species on the planet. Frankly this whole bungling by european authorities is pathetic, & we need to set our goddamn boundaries as nations unless we let this atavistic filth run rampant across our populations. There is no one who gets off easy in prison for raping someone.
We need to be careful, though. Should we allow matters to proceed as they are, we're gonna be dragged into a war for an upper class across the west, & while we're gone, the internet as we know it will be ripped up & changed into something else. I mean, America's quite ****** with the TPP & I'm waiting for the stories for irradiated shrimp from the pacific making health matters dire for Americans in general, but Europe needs to get its act together & do to our enemies foreign & domestic what Iceland did to its bankers from the 2008 depression.
Anyway, I hope what I rolled was amusing.
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terranrollerskates (01/11/2016) [-] Yeah, I sort of unload when I get into commenting!
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scruffyguy (01/10/2016) [-]
White people are really starting to piss me off. I cant be mad at these arabs and blacks for acting the way they do, it's only natural for them. I'm mad at these white people because they are willingly letting themselves die out. They are malfunctioning in the most basic way possible. "I'm a European lol, now gibb me your fuggin daughter" "Haha, sure thing buddy! I wouldn't want to be a racist now would I? I remember back in kindergarten the teacher would read us this book about a little black boy whose white friends weren't allowed to play with him. That's way worse than having my country destroyed. Haha."
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scruffyguy (01/10/2016) [-]
I'm not that pessimistic. Even if the majority of these white people dont react to their demise, there will be some who possess the necessary instincts to survive. It's a sad thought though that these people could be so depressed that they'd commit collective suicide.
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scruffyguy (01/10/2016) [-]
Dont know what to say. The lady you posted is mixed greatly. I assume you realize that? Anyways, lift weights and I'm sure you'll like white women more.
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
There's nothing wrong with the willingness, it's different when you demand that entire culture change to suit those who claim to only come there for what the culture offers. They're bringing in a bunch of uneducated third worlders who were raised to hate Western society and forcing Europe to change for them. Even worse is that they come in and want to install THEIR political viewpoints into the society; imposing Sharia Law
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gigabowzer (01/11/2016) [-]
Problem is in Germany you can get arrested for expressing even a bit of disapproval of something that is seen as multicultural.
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scruffyguy (01/11/2016) [-]
If there's a will there's a way. The particularly bold among the Europeans have already been burning down asylum centers with nobody in them, gotta clarify
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hoponthefeelstrain (01/11/2016) [-] So arabs and blacks are just uncultured savages? If you want to keep your bloodline pure than do it, but if your daughter or son wants to have babies with someone of a different color then they're allowed to, it doesn't make the other person a rapist/murderer. Racemixing isn't your thing? That's fine. The problem isn't their skin color but the culture and religion they come from that prevents them from wanting to assimilate.
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blackmageewizardt ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] Anon, what about culture and Religion did you not ******* understand you imbecile moron?
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scruffyguy (01/11/2016) [-]
holy **** lol. race is far more than skin color. do you honestly believe they got their culture from nowhere? they made it. it is intrinsic to them. Their genetics determine what ideas they come up with.
Arabs and blacks DO commit more murder and rape than white people per capita. I dont call them rapists because I dont like them, I dont like them BECAUSE many of them are rapists.
Arabs and blacks DO commit more murder and rape than white people per capita. I dont call them rapists because I dont like them, I dont like them BECAUSE many of them are rapists.
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hoponthefeelstrain (01/11/2016) [-] it's not their genetics that determines their culture... that means you could take an african child out of africa and raise him in italy and he'd do the same cultural things his ancestors did without being taught. They commint more crimes because they're typically the ones in poverty. You know the only reason the white race has been so successful is because they had animals that could be domesticated and land that could be farmed right? After having a surplus of food they could focus on other things, in impoverished African countries finding food is still top priority.
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scruffyguy (01/11/2016) [-] "You know the only reason the white race has been so successful is because they had animals that could be domesticated and land that could be farmed right? "
Are you stupid?
Do you realize that at one point all the animals Europeans eventually domesticated were all wild?
Do you realize that animals are, in fact, domesticated in Africa?
Do you realize that Africa has vast swaths of farmable land?
Do you realize that many successful nations don't have very much farmable land?
<Here's some Africans not doing any farming apparently.
Are you stupid?
Do you realize that at one point all the animals Europeans eventually domesticated were all wild?
Do you realize that animals are, in fact, domesticated in Africa?
Do you realize that Africa has vast swaths of farmable land?
Do you realize that many successful nations don't have very much farmable land?
<Here's some Africans not doing any farming apparently.
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blackmageewizardt ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] Oh? Did you ever try to domesticait an Lion? Is an ****** idea.
Domesticaiting the ancestor of the cow though was not that hard, you can easly see that everywhere in the world, where human had Access to usefull and easly tameble animals, had an giant Advantage in building great civilizations.
Domesticaiting the ancestor of the cow though was not that hard, you can easly see that everywhere in the world, where human had Access to usefull and easly tameble animals, had an giant Advantage in building great civilizations.
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scruffyguy (19 hours ago) [-] Yep, no cows in africa.
Many people in Africa actually do have domestic cattle.
Also, lions used to live in Europe up until 400 AD.
Many people in Africa actually do have domestic cattle.
Also, lions used to live in Europe up until 400 AD.
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blackmageewizardt ONLINE (19 hours ago) [-] Agypts? Forgot about that guys that builded 4000 years ago gigantic monuments without any advantaged machinery? Who are perfectly geometrical builded and so neatly done that you can´t even push an thin knife between 2 4-ton Stones?
Also how are lions usefull but for hunting purpose? Not even considering the today housecat came not from lions.
Also it needs an mix of animals easy and usefull when domesticaited and of an place with great potential for agralculture.
- Agypt had the Nil to deliver great amount of Food, with cows to also maitain this gigantic fields.
- Europen cultures had an well timed season plan which allowed great amount of agralculture, combined with many animals who where easy to domesticait and who had lots of Advantages (sheeps, cows, Dogs, pigs, ducks, chickens, ect.)
- Chinese have GIGANTIC fields aviable to produce Rice even in earlyest times, explaining why they are one of the oldest existing cultures on this planets, as they also have an good amount of usefull animals for domestication.
How about we take now some expample though that is interesting? South and middle america.
The Inkas had just 1 well domesticaited and usefull animal: Lamas.
They had to terraform entire hill lands and mountain ranges, just for plantation, they where able to build great Citys on mountains!
Other South American tribal tribes that where able to do the same? None, no other tribe in South America was able to create such monuments.
Then come the Mayas and Aztecs in middle America.
The Mayas seemingless had just 2: Dogs, and Turkeys, builds gigantic pyramids in the middle of the jungle and manages to have intensiv agralculture.
And then the Aztecs, this guys are Special, they used nothing, neither wheel nore animals to maintain their effectiv agralculture, building their Nation up to such an Level. But they are an exception.
The rule is essential this: You can´t have 1000 cows, without an land that supports great amount of agralculture (you know, like a savannah).
When you have an good Piece of dirt on which **** grows, and have animals to help you maintain this fields and give you usefull resources, you are pretty much destined to create an big culture.
Also how are lions usefull but for hunting purpose? Not even considering the today housecat came not from lions.
Also it needs an mix of animals easy and usefull when domesticaited and of an place with great potential for agralculture.
- Agypt had the Nil to deliver great amount of Food, with cows to also maitain this gigantic fields.
- Europen cultures had an well timed season plan which allowed great amount of agralculture, combined with many animals who where easy to domesticait and who had lots of Advantages (sheeps, cows, Dogs, pigs, ducks, chickens, ect.)
- Chinese have GIGANTIC fields aviable to produce Rice even in earlyest times, explaining why they are one of the oldest existing cultures on this planets, as they also have an good amount of usefull animals for domestication.
How about we take now some expample though that is interesting? South and middle america.
The Inkas had just 1 well domesticaited and usefull animal: Lamas.
They had to terraform entire hill lands and mountain ranges, just for plantation, they where able to build great Citys on mountains!
Other South American tribal tribes that where able to do the same? None, no other tribe in South America was able to create such monuments.
Then come the Mayas and Aztecs in middle America.
The Mayas seemingless had just 2: Dogs, and Turkeys, builds gigantic pyramids in the middle of the jungle and manages to have intensiv agralculture.
And then the Aztecs, this guys are Special, they used nothing, neither wheel nore animals to maintain their effectiv agralculture, building their Nation up to such an Level. But they are an exception.
The rule is essential this: You can´t have 1000 cows, without an land that supports great amount of agralculture (you know, like a savannah).
When you have an good Piece of dirt on which **** grows, and have animals to help you maintain this fields and give you usefull resources, you are pretty much destined to create an big culture.
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hoponthefeelstrain (01/11/2016) [-] Yes and countries in africa have malls, it's not all 100% desert and death. But the plants that they can grow usually aren't as nutritious and take much longer to plant than plants native to Europe. I don't remember the name of the plant but if I remember correctly, it's a cousin to barely but it's not as high in protein and takes more energy to plant because it has to have the tops cut off and the root replanted. And I don't mean that the animals were wild, but the type of animals, farm animals, big 4 legged herbivores who have a pecking order. If you control the leader you control them all, they produce milk to eat during famine, mature quickly so they can have lots of babies, pull plows, carry loads of material etc etc. Africa has some herbivores yes but most are very skiddish and don't have a set leader.
They have elephants but an elephant is pregnant for close to 2 years and can only have one child at a time, they're also very stubborn. The other herbivores are very skiddish because of the extreme amount of predators. They also have hogs, but they're not very useful but for their meat and they also have tusks.
Even lots of poor countries in africa have cattle, but the cattle constantly have to be moved and hearded to find clean sources of water, and with no reliable source of water means you can't farm.
They have elephants but an elephant is pregnant for close to 2 years and can only have one child at a time, they're also very stubborn. The other herbivores are very skiddish because of the extreme amount of predators. They also have hogs, but they're not very useful but for their meat and they also have tusks.
Even lots of poor countries in africa have cattle, but the cattle constantly have to be moved and hearded to find clean sources of water, and with no reliable source of water means you can't farm.
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ragged (01/11/2016) [-] Dude, I'm hear to browse black tweets and dick jokes. Why you gotta stir **** up?
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malinko ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] you know what, most people that are pro-gun are in fact not anti-background checks. I love guns. I own guns and its my right to do so, but I wouldn't want a felon to own one. So im fine with the back ground check I had to go through. Because I am a good citizen who doesn't commit violent crimes.
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WutsAtroll (01/10/2016) [-] you mean you don't really get arrested if you try and protest gang rape? Thanks for pointing this out, you must be really culturally enriched
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WutsAtroll (01/11/2016) [-] and my point is that this is a political cartoon and shouldn't be taken as a literal representation of reality. And still, just because they're arrested doesn't mean that people aren't demonized for speaking out against the immigration.
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bioconstriculative (01/11/2016) [-]
>France allows mass Muslim immigration with no checks; 150 people die
>Germany allows mass Muslim immigration with no checks; 1000 people get raped
Seriously, **** these people. How long are we going to keep letting third world extremists into the west? This has gotten far out of hand, it's time to close the borders to Muslims, at least for the time being. Slovakia has the right idea.
>Germany allows mass Muslim immigration with no checks; 1000 people get raped
Seriously, **** these people. How long are we going to keep letting third world extremists into the west? This has gotten far out of hand, it's time to close the borders to Muslims, at least for the time being. Slovakia has the right idea.
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filipasalucard (01/11/2016) [-] Because WE cant do anything... Those who direct our fate are letting this
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zombiemanic (01/11/2016) [-] okay, I tried to skip past this, but this picture just did it for me, I ******* hate refugees and all this controversy, I reckon it's about time something is to be done, regardless of what it is... a global culling of said refugees would be very appreciated.. and I personally think to a point you'd get away with it too.. **** them and their style of living, ******* sand ******* .
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scruffyguy (01/11/2016) [-]
Thats deep. No, really though; if their countries' dont want them Im pretty sure there's nothing they can actually do if we send them back. They can not accept them, but thats really not harming us.
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lipidregent (01/11/2016) [-] >Kill them all
And miss out on all those subjects for human experimentation?
And miss out on all those subjects for human experimentation?
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anon (01/11/2016) [-]
I will be the first man to die a monster if I ever hear of this happening in Canada, there will be no mercy Gorgonites
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applesaucers (01/10/2016) [-] Not sure if this is the original but it appears to be the whole picture uncropped and uncensored if that was what you were looking for. i.imgur.com/0GoZo6p.jpg
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lebarricuda ONLINE (01/11/2016) [-] Nah, someone said this political comic was based off an actually event that happened a few days ago in Germany.
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cackrel (01/10/2016) [-] **cackrel used "*roll picture*"**
**cackrel rolled image**It's simple.
Treat those that are criminals like criminals and punish them severely.
**cackrel rolled image**It's simple.
Treat those that are criminals like criminals and punish them severely.
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joethebeast (01/11/2016) [-] Maybe this is why Mein Kampf just hit German bookstores again... Someone trying to kick start the Reich mentality and end this ****
