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payseht ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-] Work while in college?
There are programs here that aim at hiring students. They get cheap labor, we get years of experience before even finishing our "education".
There are programs here that aim at hiring students. They get cheap labor, we get years of experience before even finishing our "education".
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greyhoundfd (12/31/2015) [-] That's why you join stem. You're not going to get **** like "We want you to be a professional-level engineer right out of college."
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greyhoundfd (12/31/2015) [-] Competence is not the same thing as experience. Your firm doesn't want you to **** up and get someone killed or them sued, that is not the same thing as "We want you to have 10 years of experience just to join."
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greyhoundfd (12/31/2015) [-] Somehow I think that you're the one who hasn't done anything in STEM. The degrees exist for a reason, and they only demand a proof that you are competent. Whether it's a degree in engineering from an at least moderately prestigious school, or previous independent work that shows your ability, that's all they need. Now, if you show up at the door with absolutely nothing, then obviously they won't hire you, but that's not the same thing as as business job that demands you have ten years of experience just to get in.
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hueduebue (12/31/2015) [-]
Seems pretty accurate in places in the US. My girlfriend has a degree in visual communication and all. But most places want 3-4 years of experience out the gate. Or whatever like its fair enough companies want experienced workers but its ridicolous that they ask someone who has a degree in their field for work experience they simply cannot have in the time they take a degree. Like they are highly unwilling to train anyone up and give them work experiences. And that means a ton of people are falling on minimum wage jobs. Who otherwise have degree's in various fields. And imagine once the more experienced people dry up and suddenly theres a lack of work force. It can end up be very self destructing when it catches up. Because companies asking for such requirements for people who couldnt possibly have that kinda work experience before they finished their degree is stupid and will ultimately result in lower skilled/experienced workers in a field.
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vilememory ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-] That is because they don't care about the long term. It is only the short term they care about. Things like maintenance are expensive right now, why spend money now and risk not getting a bonus for being under budget when you can ignore it. Then hope it blows up so you can collect insurance money then just have the piece of **** repaired instead of replaced.
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robuntu (12/31/2015) [-]
Meh - I've done campus recruiting for computer science majors. Happens all the time - we get two resumes. One guy has a 3.4 GPA and seems smart. Another guy has a 3.4 GPA and seems smart.
Only, the second guy did a summer internship after senior year of high school, then worked part-time assembling PCs after school, then worked in the computer lab freshman year of college, then did an internship at some HR company writing SQL scripts, then moved from the computer lab to the universities help desk his sophomore year, then did some pretty cool opensource project that never got finished or made any money but seemed interesting, then did another internship his junior year.
The first guy is like, 'What the hell man, all these jobs want experience! I have a good GPA and a degree - why won't anyone hire me.'
The second guy is like, 'I went to the job fair and dropped my resume off with 8 companies. I got 8 interviews'.
High school/college kids are only in school like 32 weeks per year. And college kids have a huge amount of free time. A lot of them really do have a lot of experience.
Only, the second guy did a summer internship after senior year of high school, then worked part-time assembling PCs after school, then worked in the computer lab freshman year of college, then did an internship at some HR company writing SQL scripts, then moved from the computer lab to the universities help desk his sophomore year, then did some pretty cool opensource project that never got finished or made any money but seemed interesting, then did another internship his junior year.
The first guy is like, 'What the hell man, all these jobs want experience! I have a good GPA and a degree - why won't anyone hire me.'
The second guy is like, 'I went to the job fair and dropped my resume off with 8 companies. I got 8 interviews'.
High school/college kids are only in school like 32 weeks per year. And college kids have a huge amount of free time. A lot of them really do have a lot of experience.
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yugiohkris 
ONLINE (12/31/2015) [-] >32 weeks a year
Where the **** did you go to school?
Where the **** did you go to school?
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hueduebue (12/31/2015) [-]
From what i hear internship in america is very iffy. And sometimes companies don't make much afford to allow interns and its really hit and miss. Like for visual communication i kinda wouldn't think theres many that would allow a intern to do stuff like that. Also i can tell you now about free time its still pretty hard to get time to work some kinda internship at a place while at school. Many places want you almost all days minus holidays and weekends and internship is had to budge in. Its not a easy thing you can say what you say now but consider what options people have that are just getting degree's now. Some get lucky some don't sadly
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blahblahblahblaaaa (12/31/2015) [-] you'rea ll a bunch of lazy, excuse making slobs who deserve to wilt away in your parents basements like the soggy sacks of **** that you are
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anon (12/31/2015) [-]
nah they're meta gaming your mind into thinking youre **** so you'll accept the absolute lowest wage possible
be me, 32 and making 85k a year with no college education...working since I was 18. yes i was willing to work for 24k for 6 months... got bumped to 45k after they realized i wasnt worthless and then 65k after another year. if you have the confidence you can negotiate for more money, but you better have a another job offer to back that up. and i mean an offer in writing.
tl:dr? dont be worthless and you'll make decent living eventually.
be me, 32 and making 85k a year with no college education...working since I was 18. yes i was willing to work for 24k for 6 months... got bumped to 45k after they realized i wasnt worthless and then 65k after another year. if you have the confidence you can negotiate for more money, but you better have a another job offer to back that up. and i mean an offer in writing.
tl:dr? dont be worthless and you'll make decent living eventually.
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anon (12/31/2015) [-]
Accurate. I've seen job postings in the tech field that required more years of experience with a certain technology than years that actual technology had existed.
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volcanicdiarrhea (12/31/2015) [-] Actually saw a flyer for a job offer.
They wanted someone no older than 25, with at least 15 years of experience.
They wanted someone no older than 25, with at least 15 years of experience.
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anon (12/31/2015) [-]
must be al gore looking for global warming evangelists that know something without any rational reason (or evidence)
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crlmsonhazard (12/31/2015) [-] Even McDonald's is like this now. No idea how Im gonna survive until my sixties
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fappafappafap (12/31/2015) [-] Is every picture you comment with going to be Oolong from DB?
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crlmsonhazard (12/31/2015) [-] Yes. He pairs exceptionally well with my substantive bait
