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#15 - Ruspanic (08/20/2015) [-]
I've seen worse-looking women.
#28 to #15 - redeadhunter (08/20/2015) [-]
Sorry, I couldn't help myself
Sorry, I couldn't help myself
#43 to #28 - fancys ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
I laughed harder at this than I did at the actual content.
#3 - mrbobert (08/20/2015) [-]
First thing to make me laugh all day. Thanks op
#443 to #3 - fatbasturd (08/31/2015) [-]
is this how a fly sees?
#247 to #3 - captainstinkypinky (08/21/2015) [-]
full sized for ya
#1 - ldnelson (08/20/2015) [-]
That's no moon...
#366 to #312 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
just pointing this out, but "only a sith deals in absolutes" is an absolute
#6 - rockergamer ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
it's gonna be a couple decades before people won't be able to see your old masculine/feminine side

so I guess we're just letting the idiots to the beta testing

and i'll be damned if people honestly think he looks like a woman
User avatar #229 to #6 - starblood (08/21/2015) [-]
"he"
why are you like this
#273 to #229 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
found the mentally ill tranny
#336 to #273 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
This website has people defending pedophiles and it calls others mentally ill. that's the funny part right here.
User avatar #385 to #336 - mcmanybucks (08/21/2015) [-]
funnyjunk
#394 to #336 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Because it's offensive, if people get upset about something it has a high chance of being an entertaining joke.

And besides offence is always taken never given no one forces you to get upset about something that someone said online you do that all by yourself.
#406 to #394 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Lol at people thumbing this down he's right.
#446 to #229 - anon (09/08/2015) [-]
srsly go suck a dick, its a mental disorder. humans aren't meant to feel like they're opposite sex sorry transsexual people on fj but its true. (if its not just a stunt to create more PR for the Kardashian family)
#369 to #6 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
My facial recognition for male and female is long gone.
User avatar #390 to #6 - nowthatsedgy (08/21/2015) [-]
when bruce/caitlyn jenner was 65 when they got the sex change, the older age would've had a part to play in why (she) looks masculine.

youth would've covered that.
User avatar #85 to #6 - yzerboy (08/20/2015) [-]
In a couple of decades we will hopefully have the means to correct the irregularities in their brains to make it so they feel good as who they are, instead of having to change into someone else.
User avatar #270 to #85 - nobleneon (08/21/2015) [-]
or, you know, you could just let people do what they want.
User avatar #272 to #270 - yzerboy (08/21/2015) [-]
When you want to make pancakes and someone says they hope the waffle iron will be delivered soon, do you also assume making waffles will become mandatory?
User avatar #275 to #272 - nobleneon (08/21/2015) [-]
umm
what?
User avatar #277 to #275 - yzerboy (08/21/2015) [-]
In my original post I said I hoped for a new technique to become available. Then you replied in a way that gave me the impression you were thinking that I thought this technique should replace current day gender reassignment surgery, when I did not say so.
So I made a comment where you start out with one thing, in this case batter, which you can only use in one way, making pancakes, then a new option appears, making waffles, and I ask if this new option would suddenly be the only option left.

Not the best of metaphores, but give me a break, it's 5 AM.
User avatar #279 to #277 - nobleneon (08/21/2015) [-]
Ah ok, I was confused for a bit. Alright, fair enough.
User avatar #99 to #85 - crazyeyedbioll (08/20/2015) [-]
This ******* guy wins all right here. Why the hell should we perfect gender swapping when we could just fix you so you're comfortable with what you were born with?
#251 to #99 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Por que no los dos? People should have the choice, even if someone else who is completely uninvolved in their lives will disagree with it and believe their own opinion is correct for everyone.
User avatar #121 to #99 - dummerbaztard (08/20/2015) [-]
Homosexuality too?
Since that's a brain defect too by that logic
User avatar #123 to #121 - crazyeyedbioll (08/20/2015) [-]
for homosexuality you dont have to physically change who you naturally are and become some gross manwoman freak now do you?
#384 to #123 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image** "Man woman freak" /r/edgi #triggered
#151 to #123 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
Fair enough, but by your logic, why don't we overwrite everyone's personal preferences? O? You don't like your nose and want a nose job? We'll just erase your desire for a new one. You have confidence issues regarding your penis size? Let's eliminate that too. O, you have a horrible disease that's going to kill you and you're depressed about it? Let's remove the part of your mind that makes you sad or upset so you can accept it.

Anyway, back on topic, transgenders have brains that don't resemble their birth sex, so for transwomen their brain is partially or fully feminized. You're advocating that you physically change how they think to mirror that of the sex they were born with by rewriting pretty much everything about them. I think most would rather kill themselves than see that fate. I think a brain is more important about who you are than anything else.

User avatar #155 to #151 - crazyeyedbioll (08/21/2015) [-]
you brought in so many completely different things. I think people should be comfortable with their bodies. Do you really need a bigger dick because you're so insecure? or a smaller nose? Something life threatening is way different though. Being trans is a mental disorder that makes you hate yourself because you arent the sex you want to be. that isnt natural, that isnt you, its a ****** in your brain that makes you miserable and depressed
#171 to #155 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Characteristics of transgender brains typically resemble their gender identity. As a guy, a real transgender is going to be more effeminate, emotional, prefer girl toys to boy toys, and he's not going to fit in with a group of guys. He's going to get frustrated when his friends don't want to listen to him talk about his feelings or his hair. Men and women think differently. If that isn't the case, how come there are so many jokes about guys being totally confused by girls? If you fix their mind, you are effectively saying you want to make them think like men.

Now, there is a sub-category of transgenders who are actually fetishistic and are really transitioning for sexual reasons around becoming a women. Those tend to be sexual cross-dressers too. That one might better be cured that way, I'll admit, but it should still be voluntary.
User avatar #386 to #171 - zombienurse (08/21/2015) [-]
Vigilum

This guy knows what he's talking about
User avatar #407 to #386 - vigilum (08/21/2015) [-]
The only thing I'm not sure I knew, or.. well, realized, is the balancing hormone thing
And the XXY thing, I think? my memory is stupid
#180 to #155 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Also less than you think has to do with being comfortable with your body. Many transwomen transition, knowing they will always stand out and look like men in dresses. They transition because of the hormones and their balancing effect on their female minds.

Getting on the hormones as a transgender puts your mind at ease. You don't feel out of place, your mind can properly express its emotions, and overall, it improves your happiness. They don't care about whether they are attractive, they need estrogen so their brains function how they are designed to function.

Finally, a transgender who transitions in puberty, or even their early 20s is going to look comparable to a cis woman, especially with more androgynous features to begin with. Moreover, a transgender woman has soft skin like a girl, can lactate like a girl, thinks like a girl, and even orgasms like a girl. The only difference between them is the lack of an ovary and vagina. O, and by the way, XXY is an intersex condition that is often a cause of transgenderism (and it affects 1/1000 males). One of my friends was XXY and had some internal female organs, but otherwise looked like any other male. She's now transitioned and frankly, she was never male to begin with even by chromosomes, though you would have lumped her in as one until she started hormones.
#371 to #121 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
transexuals are actually mentally ill though. Homosexuals are not.
User avatar #140 to #121 - obanesforever (08/20/2015) [-]
Even homesexuals can be comfortable in their own bodies.
User avatar #152 to #99 - twiceasfun (08/20/2015) [-]
Because damn near all trans people would choose to transition over being "fixed." and since it's not actually a mental illness, it's not something to be fixed.
User avatar #157 to #152 - crazyeyedbioll (08/21/2015) [-]
But it is a mental illness. the belief that girls are born into male bodies and vice versa is just tumblr SJW ********* . the science of it is it is a mental disorder
User avatar #164 to #157 - twiceasfun (08/21/2015) [-]
Dude, the apa researched it for a good long while and years ago, before sjw's become prominent, it was declared not to be a mental illness. It even says, "it is important to note that gender non-congruence is not in itself a disorder" in the most recent update of the dsm. A state of dysphoria/depression due to being trans is an illness, but being trans is not, and not all trans people have gender dysphoria, it's actually a much smaller percentage than most assume. And a person with dysphoria will actually be advised against hormones/surgery by their doctors until it has been resolved to try to ensure mentally unstable people aren't making these decisions
#372 to #164 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
DSM is a political game. Most Psychologists will admit being trans is an illness but they can not officially put it in the DSM due to SJW reasons. It has been up for debate for years now.
#337 to #157 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Citation? I mean, if you're gonna make claims, back them up. Unless you're no different than the SJW stuff you're bashing, the only difference here is who's calling who dumb.
#349 to #343 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
So I'm guessing you haven't checked comment 183? Because your "source" is a laughable news article, while the other comment has laid out multiple sources for this.

Plus, not the first time I've seen "someone important makes claim". Some guy claimed a mental illness wasn't real while on his deathbed with no evidence, and everyone jumped on that boat.
User avatar #352 to #349 - crazyeyedbioll (08/21/2015) [-]
Dude's a ****** liscensed medical psychiatrist. I think he has plenty say in this.
#449 to #352 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image** Check around what he's saying lady. The article is misusing its sats. It relies too heavily on the beliefs of one specific medical professional to stand as a good picture of what all psychologist believe. It's just not good evidence to support your claim. It doesn't dig deep enough into the evidence that supports the doctor's claims.
#176 to #103 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Is....I-Is that a dude?
User avatar #179 to #176 - severepwner (08/21/2015) [-]
Go find out. Masturbate and see if you're ashamed or not.
User avatar #248 to #179 - drbrainbleach (08/21/2015) [-]
I'm always ashamed. The test did nothing
#197 to #176 - Vercingetorix (08/21/2015) [-]
Gold medal decathlon 1976
#194 to #176 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
The face sets off a warning flag in my head. Not entirely because of the appearance of the masculine jaw structure but also because of the look on the face. That is the face of someone who is screwing around and is in on a joke. I can feel it. Not like that goshdarn it!

Of course the context is clearly cluing me in to look for why it's a guy.
#245 to #194 - phanteon (08/21/2015) [-]
you want dicks dont you anon
#308 to #103 - necrova (08/21/2015) [-]
You made me gay
User avatar #378 to #308 - toncheky (08/21/2015) [-]
Nothing gay about liking feminine features be it on a man or a woman.



faggit
User avatar #379 to #378 - necrova (08/21/2015) [-]
I mean, I pop boners when I look at girly looking guys. probably because im bi, i was joking about not being gay previously to seeing this
User avatar #380 to #379 - toncheky (08/21/2015) [-]
Oh cool.
User avatar #311 to #308 - severepwner (08/21/2015) [-]
Nothing gay about girl dick.
#325 to #311 - necrova (08/21/2015) [-]
well then you made me like girl dick
User avatar #377 to #103 - liero (08/21/2015) [-]
Bruce Jenner take note
that's how you transgender.
User avatar #368 to #103 - teratorn (08/21/2015) [-]
Name,please.
#364 to #103 - butiloveu ONLINE (08/21/2015) [-]
This is from a cosplayer girl. She is from France and you can find her under the name Clef.
Pic related, Clef is on the left side.

More of her cosplay-it.com/Clef#center
User avatar #365 to #364 - butiloveu ONLINE (08/21/2015) [-]
>>#311, >>#308, >>#347,
Not a boy, see >>#364
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User avatar #347 to #103 - ninjaspartan (08/21/2015) [-]
Well, knowing it's a dude kinda turns me off. Makes it pretty gay to be straight, I know.
#398 to #347 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Apparently it is a girl, they pulled a fast one on you sir.
User avatar #128 to #103 - floran (08/20/2015) [-]
name?
User avatar #159 to #128 - newfeliperuiz (08/21/2015) [-]
Kim Petras?
User avatar #168 to #159 - confusedasian (08/21/2015) [-]
>>#162,

No, some girl from France.
User avatar #172 to #168 - newfeliperuiz (08/21/2015) [-]
My mistake, but not even transgender?
User avatar #174 to #172 - confusedasian (08/21/2015) [-]
Unless you're talking about Kim Petras. She did get a gender change and is the youngest to do so. She's from Germany.
User avatar #173 to #172 - confusedasian (08/21/2015) [-]
Nothing to suggest so. Just a girl. Shouldn't really matter if she is trans or not, she looks nice and happy. I just leave it at that.
User avatar #175 to #173 - newfeliperuiz (08/21/2015) [-]
That's amicable, but I thought this comment thread was about transgender people not being passable
User avatar #184 to #175 - confusedasian (08/21/2015) [-]
He probably got (no pun intended) confused. There are times when people here that I've noticed will say how a girl has a penis, when in fact it actually is a girl.
User avatar #163 to #159 - floran (08/21/2015) [-]
looks like it

severepwner, that's a girl
User avatar #136 to #128 - severepwner (08/20/2015) [-]
I don't know what his name is.
User avatar #219 to #136 - relvel (08/21/2015) [-]
It actually is a her. No dick.
#117 to #103 - davvolka (08/20/2015) [-]
Sauce?
#137 to #117 - bagofshenanigans (08/20/2015) [-]
Some Ukrainian chick doing a Cosplay of Panty Anarchy from Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt.


Have some sauce: the-kirana.deviantart.com/
User avatar #142 to #137 - confusedasian (08/20/2015) [-]
That's not her. The women you posted has bigger eyes and uses a little more eyeliner at the top and mascara in her costume. Also I went through all her pictures.
User avatar #166 to #162 - confusedasian (08/21/2015) [-]
Yeah. clefchan.deviantart.com/art/panty-and-panties-2-202846386?q=gallery%3Aclefchan%2F5731713&qo=36

>>#103, Also, I see no indication that she is a male.

>>#128, And you because you wanted to know who.
#223 to #6 - Urfriedrice (08/21/2015) [-]
Just wait. By the time we get old, people are gonna identify themselves as dolphins or some **** . Society is going to accept it and we're gonna be labeled the new "closed-minded" adults.
#25 to #6 - cactusphalus (08/20/2015) [-]
couple of decades? welcome to the future then
#130 to #25 - UNIQUELOL (08/20/2015) [-]
Only Allah knows the outcome of this unfathomable future
#48 to #25 - ironsoul (08/20/2015) [-]
Yesssssssss
User avatar #54 to #48 - musclezglassez (08/20/2015) [-]
best movie ever man redline is life
User avatar #57 to #25 - kaisakuenkou (08/20/2015) [-]
I'm not sure of this particular case, but if hormones are started before puberty, than most masculine aspects haven't even developed yet, making the transition much faster/convincing
#295 to #25 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Obviously it will work well on dudes that already look like women but imagine Michael Shannon or Sean Bean or some other manly looking dude decided to do it. Results may vary a **** ton. Also fake tit technology has a long way to go, I can only see the cleavage and yet it's as clear as day those are fake as **** .
#373 to #25 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
He still looks like a dude with a wig. Seriously, look at the facial structure.
#285 to #25 - dillweed (08/21/2015) [-]
Not sure if I should have a boner because its a tranny or boner because its a girl
User avatar #120 to #25 - mrkanyeeast (08/20/2015) [-]
Who is this?
User avatar #132 to #120 - cactusphalus (08/20/2015) [-]
some "girl" I came across on Happn
#126 to #6 - floran (08/20/2015) [-]
be afraid, straight boy

for the reckoning is coming
User avatar #139 to #126 - confusedasian (08/20/2015) [-]
She lost weight in the process. Cool.
User avatar #148 to #139 - nottheoatmeal (08/20/2015) [-]
He*
User avatar #367 to #148 - gabikak (08/21/2015) [-]
*It
#339 to #148 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Funny part is by doing this, you sound no different than the SJWs that demand you use their pronouns.
User avatar #200 to #148 - thetoxicketchup (08/21/2015) [-]
*I'm a dick
#208 to #200 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
*I have never heard of chromosomes before
#216 to #208 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
*I have difficulty understanding the difference between sex and gender, don't care about the feelings of others because I'm edgy, and am a general *******
User avatar #233 to #216 - thetoxicketchup (08/21/2015) [-]
That's exactly it, it's these bandwagonning faggots who've never had a social interaction with an LGBT person in their lives thinking they're ******* edgy. It's not even funny, just sad and pathetic.
User avatar #344 to #233 - ninjaspartan (08/21/2015) [-]
LGBT

Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transexual

Transgender is different. Sex and gender are different according to transgenders. Transgenders are not transsexuals. Transgenders are not LGBT. Being and identifying are two different things. Being is scientifically and still politically correct. Identifying has to do with self-acceptance, not the need for acceptance from others, and has nothing to do with scientific evidence. And no, before you say it, topic specific university classes are not scientifically backed by national science policies either. Anyone can back whatever bandwagon they want without being close minded about it, all the transgender phenomenon is is a movement of hormonally based feelings who inwardly do not accept the gender they were assigned biologically. There is no political correctness to be had. Not now, and not in the next few decades if there is any such thing as a god.
User avatar #209 to #208 - thetoxicketchup (08/21/2015) [-]
It's about showing some common courtesy & respect, and not being an asshole.

I don't give a **** if a person was born male or female, I call them what they want to be called because it's polite.
User avatar #263 to #209 - drtrousersnake (08/21/2015) [-]
I prefer the pronouns "my pimp", "my pimp's" and "my pimp's self"

A line needs to be drawn somewhere, and some of us choose to be more close minded than others and have every right to be as long as we treat them like everyone else.
#292 to #263 - confusedasian (08/21/2015) [-]
>some of us choose to be more close minded than others


You're correct that people have every right to be ignorant if they want, but that doesn't give them a free pass to be an asshole.
User avatar #297 to #292 - drtrousersnake (08/21/2015) [-]
So we believe that if someone has a Y chromosome then they are male. Man we are such assholes if we treat them like normal people but refuse to use their preferred pronouns because we don't conform to their way of thinking about "gender".
User avatar #302 to #297 - confusedasian (08/21/2015) [-]
"I'd like it if you talked to me using female pronouns."
"No sorry. You were born a guy, I'm going to keep calling you by male pronouns."

You don't think that's a little rude? If a woman wants to be a man and goes through the surgery, why is it so hard to use male pronouns? (I switched it around because it's not just male to female. There are female to male. I don't know, keep it fresh I guess.) It doesn't take effort at all. You know the expression "A little kindness can go a long way."?

How about this as another example. Let's say my name was Alexander. I ask you if you can call me Alex instead. Are you going to just ignore my small request because that's not my real name?
User avatar #327 to #302 - drtrousersnake (08/21/2015) [-]
I have no problem calling Mr. Jenner by the name Caitlyn. If he wanted to spend money mutilating his penis, while I don't agree with his decision it was his to make. Honestly I find the idea of a "transgender" to be kind of sexist.
If it's alright for a man to be gay and if it's alright for a man to dress in drag and if is alright for a man to act in a way that's normally attributed to women, why do they need to refer to themselves as a transsexual. Also does doing one or more of these things make a man any less of a man? While a feminine man might not fit the macho man schema, he is still a man.

TL;DR If Mr. Jenner wants to get into make-up, hey, power to him. although I am really tired hearing about Caitlyn Jenner's new TV show every time I press OnDemand
#330 to #327 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
You don't agree with Caitlyn (Formerly Bruce) Jenner's ******* decision?
Exactly what does that even mean? You had a conversation with Bruce before his decision and said, "Nah man, this is stupid."
>He, his, him
>"I have no problem"
That's just ******** .
User avatar #436 to #330 - drtrousersnake (08/25/2015) [-]
I don't agree with mutilating his dick so he can feel pretty but he has the right to do so.
#411 to #327 - confusedasian (08/21/2015) [-]
I see the ads on my youtube videos. **** dude I just want to listen and watch music videos. I'm not interested in some tv show documentary thing.
#409 to #302 - whiteusername ONLINE (08/21/2015) [-]
Bruce still has a penis though....women don't have penises. That's a scientific fact.
#410 to #409 - confusedasian (08/21/2015) [-]
I can't argue with that, but is it really a big deal? It's a small change from using one name/pronoun to another name/pronoun. You can call Cait/trans people whatever you want as long as you're not an ass about it. I'm sure trans people will understand that not everyone understands/sees eye to eye with them. And I'm not being sarcastic. It's just like an "okay" kind of thing. You respect their feelings and they respect yours.
User avatar #428 to #410 - whiteusername ONLINE (08/22/2015) [-]
I usually just ignore them when they are in the wild. It's my opinion that if they want to be called a woman they should go through the whole process before they start trying to force me to see them as one.

They will still be a man, but at least they will be a man with a vagina.
whoa man
User avatar #320 to #297 - Shiny ONLINE (08/21/2015) [-]
Transgenderism has nothing to do with chromosomes, though. Just saying. It's not an opinion, it's a truism.
User avatar #212 to #209 - thetoxicketchup (08/21/2015) [-]
Please, by all means vote me down if it makes you feel any better. I just think it's a bit malicious to intentionally misgender someone for the sake of insulting them. God forbid someone think people should be treated with respect. It's not like we're talking about tumblr users here.
#218 to #212 - saxmo (08/21/2015) [-]
Would you call a person with multiple personality disorder a "personality party bus" just to make them feel better about their disorder?
#296 to #218 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
why does anyone even care? why do you care? is this really something to argue about? does this cause your death if you don't make someone happy by referring to someone how they prefer to be referred to as? if it's a disorder, why do you have to shame them for it? does this AT ALL harm you? in any goddamn way? keep your goddamn piece, negativity helps noone.
#300 to #296 - valigar (08/21/2015) [-]
And so that I can give you my green thumb, because I agree
#333 to #296 - saxmo (08/21/2015) [-]
Did i shame them? Where in any of my comments have i said anything shameful or demeaning about them. I live in the real world and understand that happiness is not more important than the truth. More than anything im concerned about them. You are what you are born with. If im a black man then me bleaching my skin and cutting off my penis doesnt make me a woman. Sure i might look like one but putting a small cat on the hood of your car doesnt make it a jag. I honestly want them to seek out help for their condition.

Nice gif btw. i chuckled
#408 to #218 - whiteusername ONLINE (08/21/2015) [-]
>personality party bus

well done
User avatar #220 to #218 - thetoxicketchup (08/21/2015) [-]
If that's what they wanted, sure.
#225 to #220 - saxmo (08/21/2015) [-]
It is foolish to let the inmates run the asylum.
User avatar #236 to #225 - thetoxicketchup (08/21/2015) [-]
It's more foolish to just sweep them under the rug and pretend they're not there.
User avatar #237 to #236 - thetoxicketchup (08/21/2015) [-]
Or that they don't matter. These are human beings we're talking about.
#298 to #237 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
you are not pretending they are not there, you are not calling them a thing either, calling them he is still recognizing them as humans. that i dont give a crap about what gender they want to be but arent is another thing.
User avatar #351 to #237 - ninjaspartan (08/21/2015) [-]
Pardon you, but since when did the respect of a transgender who hasn't even transferred genders yet matter above the respect of a cis member that simply doesn't accept the ideas? This is what causes religious debates. If a religious man or woman can shrug their shoulders at an atheist who says he doesn't believe in a god, a transgender can respect the mentality of a cis member who does not identify THEM with what they identify themselves. It's never been disrespectful to call a straight white male a girl out of jest or for any other reason you can think of off the top of your head, and the idea that transgenders can be offended by being called the very gender that they know they were ASSIGNED yet don't believe they are is not offensive, it's just another trigger word like "black" and "gay." Not a swear word, or in any way crass. Just another word that's always used in a context that can seem offensive but doesn't have to be. Except the biggest difference is that gender labels are even more rare cases, if at all.
#331 to #236 - saxmo (08/21/2015) [-]
Reply to both of your comments. I never said they didnt exist or they arent there. quite the opposite really. I see their existance but i want more than anything to give them help. When a man on the side of the road has a flat tire you stop to help or at least offer help because hes having a struggle and its the decent thing to do. These people are confused and have astronomically high suicide rates. I dont want anyone to kill themselves especially when its preventable or at least treatable.
#397 to #212 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
All I saw was "please by all means vote me down" did I click the right thumb?
#203 to #139 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
He*
#450 to #139 - anon (09/16/2015) [-]
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image**You'd be surprised what happens when you give someone hope. I went on HRT and dropped 45 pounds in 8 months.
User avatar #451 to #450 - confusedasian (09/16/2015) [-]
HRT gave you hope? Or do you mean like, it like gave you encouragement to change your health? That's nice though. Good on you.
#213 to #126 - anticitezenone ONLINE (08/21/2015) [-]
see in this girl's face she was born with feminine features, since she has soft round cheeks and a heart face shape. As a man this person would have been considered rather feminine in the face if they had lost weight. Caitlyn is not so lucky, she has masculine features such as a rectangular face and thin lips. Some trans people look the part, others don't, it's a matter of genetics and luck i suppose. Maybe if she had face surgery to round those edges people could accept the change a lot better. People trust their eyes
User avatar #334 to #126 - makethingsworse (08/21/2015) [-]
Nope. I don't believe you. This an elaborate ruse to male me question the truths I hold dear and I will not allow it, sir!
#374 to #126 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
He is still a dude in a ******* wig.
#204 to #126 - aoeui (08/21/2015) [-]
>it was real in my mind
90% of trannies are ugly as **** dude. the other 10% still sound like men
User avatar #258 to #204 - floran (08/21/2015) [-]
unless they start really young, if they go hormone manipulation when still like 14yo then voice stays feminine.
User avatar #289 to #258 - aoeui (08/21/2015) [-]
when I was 14 my voice wasn't remotely feminine and my body was already beyond matured. I think you mean more like 11 or 10
User avatar #293 to #289 - confusedasian (08/21/2015) [-]
"I wasn't like this. Therefore no one else was."
User avatar #294 to #293 - aoeui (08/21/2015) [-]
or most males were you androgenous cuck
User avatar #299 to #204 - valigar (08/21/2015) [-]
*9 percent
Never forget the unicorns
Transgender Miss Universe Contestant Interview with Barbara Walters: Jenna Talackova Exclusive
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#74 - lmOldGreg ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
Bruce Gender
#16 - CrimsonHazrad (08/20/2015) [-]
You guys will jerk off to traps, futanari, etc but are still transphobic for some reason.
#116 to #16 - stalini (08/20/2015) [-]
>transphobic
Good way to spot a retard like you
User avatar #141 to #16 - gloriouschad (08/20/2015) [-]
I wouldn't say we're transphobic. Maybe some people are but most of us aren't. We just hate faggots.
User avatar #27 to #16 - lulzdealer ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
I'm not afraid, I just refuse to acknowledge it as acceptable behavior.
User avatar #61 to #27 - labree (08/20/2015) [-]
wait
being transsexual isnt acceptable behavior?
gender fluidity and stuff is ******* stupid as ****
but saying that trans-sexuality isnt an acceptable behavior is seriously pushing it.
#96 to #61 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
hahaha why dont you love meeeeee

**** you
User avatar #62 to #61 - lulzdealer ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
Yeah, I don't think it's acceptable to cut your dick off and pretend to be a woman.

Sue me.
User avatar #63 to #62 - labree (08/20/2015) [-]
>pretend to be a woman.
they may not biologically be a woman, but having a sex change is about as close as you can get to it.

if these people want to do this then who are we to say no?
people also smoke, which just outright harms their lungs.
they also chew tobacco.
they also drink alcohol.
are these also unacceptable behaviors?
#70 to #63 - newbly (08/20/2015) [-]
People can do whatever they want, if a sex change operation is what they want then so be it. However, they'll never be able to be the opposite gender. Males are males and females are females. Idk what the future holds in that regard though.
User avatar #73 to #70 - labree (08/20/2015) [-]
>they may not biologically be a woman, but having a sex change is about as close as you can get to it.

if these people want to do this then who are we to say no?
#102 to #73 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
WERE NOT SAYING NO
WERE SAYING
****
YOU

AND YOU THINK THAT MEANS STOP

WE WONT BE FREINDS GET OVER IT
User avatar #105 to #102 - labree (08/20/2015) [-]
k.

maybe not go anon next time.
#113 to #105 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
IM NIT FAGGOT FACE IM A AN
YOU COCKWIT
#441 to #73 - anon (08/29/2015) [-]
**** off. I don't give a **** what people do with their own money either. But in places like Canada (which is where I happen to live), trannies get their surgeries done with taxpayer dollars. **** that. Being a massive faggot is not an acceptable tax expenditure.
#101 to #63 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
yes smking is bad, belittled hated upon, tld to change everyday *******

but we buck up and smoke a dope
#189 to #63 - aheael (08/21/2015) [-]
you're a ******* twat.

>as close as you can get to it

they still aren't a female because getting yourself some tits and a vag dont make you a woman. it makes you a problem with ******* problems and if you want to encourage that or do jack **** then you're a ******* twat.

people smoke, and all that **** . Yes it's unacceptable but its cos we dont have people getting in their face and telling them to stop you ******* idiot- why do you think they do smoke, drink, cos EVERYONE ******* DOES IT AND NO ONE TELLS EM EVERY DAY ITS BAD.

So yes, >61 im a newfag if that thing dont work sorry it is unacceptable. two wrongs dont make a right.
User avatar #227 to #189 - labree (08/21/2015) [-]
>ND NO ONE TELLS EM EVERY DAY ITS BAD.
lol, get the **** out here. literally commercials and ads on every channel and website about why smoking and drinking is bad.

>they still aren't a female because getting yourself some tits and a vag dont make you a woman.
im pretty sure thats literally what"as close as you can get it to means."

> it makes you a problem with ******* problems and if you want to encourage that or do jack **** then you're a ******* twat.

i didnt realise that transsexuals suddenly werent productive members of society because they get a sex change. oh wait. they are.

your points are really dumb. you stoop to insults because your points make little sense and are almost 100% wrong.
#288 to #227 - aheael (08/21/2015) [-]
oh yeah cos commercials and ads are such an effective ******* way of telling people, when hardly anyone gives 2 ***** , your friends, your family the people around yo uare the ones matter you ******* twat. how about you gtfo here and look at real life.

you ever heard of the XX and XY chromose you cunt? google it and then shut the **** up. ever heard of the concept behind being called feminine and female? you ******* twit, just because you literally change your body to suit the physical doesnt make you the ************* concept it is.

people changing their genders are usually the ******* ones who end up regretting it afterwards when they grow up, thats why a **** ton of hospitals stopped it. it's a ******* problem in their head they dont understand someone needs to clear it up you ******* twat. And how the **** does productivity come into play here?

Yeah mate, you got different views, so mine MUST be wrong.
User avatar #381 to #288 - labree (08/21/2015) [-]
>oh yeah cos commercials and ads are such an effective ******* way of telling people, when hardly anyone gives 2 ***** , your friends, your family the people around yo uare the ones matter you ******* twat. how about you gtfo here and look at real life.

i could care less how many ***** people give commercials
you said they werent constantly in your face about it. they are.

>you ever heard of the XX and XY chromose you cunt? google it and then shut the **** up. ever heard of the concept behind being called feminine and female? you ******* twit, just because you literally change your body to suit the physical doesnt make you the ************* concept it is.

im pretty sure thats literally what"as close as you can get it to means."

>people changing their genders are usually the ******* ones who end up regretting it afterwards when they grow up, thats why a **** ton of hospitals stopped it. it's a ******* problem in their head they dont understand someone needs to clear it up you ******* twat. And how the **** does productivity come into play here?

because its not a problem, and while yes they do sometimes regret it, its a consequence of their actions and they live with it. how doesnt productivity come into play?they arent problems for you or me or the rest of society. because they are productive members of society.
#399 to #381 - aheael (08/21/2015) [-]
1. It was obvious I implied that the people around you are the ones that matter because the commercials hardly hold any weight, which basically makes them non-existent.
There are more commercials on drinking beer, then there are- actually I haven't seen not one "stop drinking" ad or campaign.

2. "As close as you can get to it means", yes that's "as close" as you can get to it, but are you it? No. That's the point. You get yourself a sex change, what good does it get you? You have the body of a woman now what?
The whole intention behind it is to being a woman and THEN going out with a lad, right? In society, it is very hard to find people who'll accept transgenders.
There simply is nothing beneficial here. They have a screw loose in their head and you're too "respectful" to admit that.

3. It is a problem because they are harming themselves in the long run, who am I to decide that? Simple, you like men or women, or you like both. There is nothing else more to it. Just because they don't cause a problem for me doesn't equal I should do nothing or say nothing. It is a problem for them and people are too "nice" to admit that, being afraid as labelled as a hater and coming off as "inhumane".
User avatar #412 to #399 - labree (08/21/2015) [-]
>You have the body of a woman now what?
then you go out and act like a woman. and be a woman in the social term of it. which is what they want.

>They have a screw loose in their head and you're too "respectful" to admit that.

how do they definitively have a screw loose in their head? you can try and find some proof of this, but the fact is literally everyones mind is different and the way that people cope or react to certain things is different. some doctors believe that changing genders solves some of the psychological issues that leads to wanting to be transsexuals. essentially being born with a "wrong gendered brain"

>. It is a problem because they are harming themselves in the long run

lol what. not everyone one of them goes out and harms themselves. they are solving something they view as a problem for themselves. do you seriously believe that everyone who gets a sex change is suddenly harming themselves afterwords? do you seriously believe that everytime someone gets a sex change they regret it?


>It is a problem for them and people are too "nice" to admit that, being afraid as labelled as a hater and coming off as "inhumane".

nobody is afraid of this **** , the only ones who are are politicians who have practically their whole life on the line with saying **** like that, anyone else who doesnt like transsexuals either ignores it like a normal person, or goes out of their way to tell people that they are wrong for feeling like they were born in the wrong gender.

>Simple, you like men or women,

what. thats not even in question. your just bringing up random **** now.


#414 to #412 - aheael (08/22/2015) [-]
Oh and good job on removing the "or both", in the last part of your reply.

"you like men or women, or both."
Starting to see from the cherry picking the kind of twat you are.
User avatar #416 to #414 - labree (08/22/2015) [-]
i literally just didnt select it, and yet again, not even in question, your just bringing up random **** now.
#417 to #416 - aheael (08/22/2015) [-]
You didn't select the only most important part of the sentence that wouldn't make me appear as hateful towards homosexuality? Right.

>Random **** .

You like men or women, or you like both. People who want gender changes want to change their body in the belief they were born in the wrong gender's body.
I repeat: They were born in the wrong gender's body.
If that does not sound like they have a few screws loose in their head.... I don't know what you'd find a mental illness.

User avatar #419 to #417 - labree (08/22/2015) [-]
>You like men or women, or you like both.
>People who want gender changes want to change their body in the belief they were born in the wrong gender's body.

how are these even remotely related.seriously. sexuality != gender.

already addressed in my other comment.

why would i want to make you appear hateful towards homosexuality? i have no problem with you, i am merely arguing with you.
#413 to #412 - aheael (08/22/2015) [-]
1. Males will be males and female will be females. What do you not understand behind you like men or women or you like both?

2. Everyone is different. Does that make a sociopath, psychopath, an autist fine? Your logic doesn't add up. Everyone is different so we treat each person differently.
They want to try and change their body to be a "woman". You will not be a woman by changing your body into one. What do you not understand here?

3. Nobody is too afraid? That's why people don't speak out against Bruce Jenner when he threatened to beat the man in interview up and attack him in the parking lot?

User avatar #418 to #413 - labree (08/22/2015) [-]
>1. Males will be males and female will be females. What do you not understand behind you like men or women or you like both?

are you trying to say that sexuality is genetic? its not. a straight person is attracted to the opposite genders FEATURES
not the opposite gender. you can be attracted to a transsexual, just because you learn they are a transsexual doesnt suddenly remove that attraction, it puts something infront of that that is hard to see through.
nobody is attracted to a persons X or Y chromosome dumbass.

>2. Everyone is different. Does that make a sociopath, psychopath, an autist fine? Your logic doesn't add up.
the diffirence is a transsexual is not going out and murdering or torture people. are you trying to say that being autistic is something we shouldnt"allow" its not a choice, same as wanting to be the opposite gender.

>3. Nobody is too afraid? That's why people don't speak out against Bruce Jenner when he threatened to beat the man in interview up and attack him in the parking lot?

i didnt hear of this, but im betting you money that people did speak up, but since they werent high-level politicians that would lose their jobs if they said something like that, they werent heard.
#420 to #418 - aheael (08/22/2015) [-]
1. I said men are men and females will be females. It is the feeling of attraction. There is more than just cold science that determines what attraction and love is.
I just said, "Or both". So dumbass, remember your first point made at me on stooping low to insults? Do you see the hypocrisy?

2. Exactly, transexuals are different. Did I even imply that? I clearly stated we treat each person differently. Now placing words in where it was not implied. Someone's getting flustered.

3. No, you didn't hear of this because people didn't speak about it even though it was on national wide TV where millions were watching it. Because they do not want to go against the support of the majority. So this just confirms my point.
User avatar #421 to #420 - labree (08/22/2015) [-]
1. I said men are men and females will be females. It is the feeling of attraction. There is more than just cold science that determines what attraction and love is.
I just said, "Or both". So dumbass, remember your first point made at me on stooping low to insults? Do you see the hypocrisy?

and that feeling is the feeling of being attracted to either/both feminine or masculinity.
not an attraction to a biological gender or a x/y chromosome.

>2. Exactly, transsexuals are different. Did I even imply that? I clearly stated we treat each person differently. Now placing words in where it was not implied. Someone's getting flustered.
Does that make a sociopath, psychopath, an autist fine?

and your putting words in my mouth.
transsexuals aren't hurting anyone. unlike sociopaths or psychopath. being autistic is diffirent from feeling you were born in the wrong gender. you can make your body as close to being the other gender as you can, which is pretty ****** close. you cant cure autism.

>3. No, you didn't hear of this because people didn't speak about it even though it was on national wide TV where millions were watching it. Because they do not want to go against the support of the majority. So this just confirms my point.

or maybe its because i really dont care about that **** . you are "confirming" your own point based off an observation of ONE person you dont even know.
#422 to #421 - aheael (08/22/2015) [-]
1. Now you're just repeating what I said. You like males or females or both.
Not the attraction to biological gender soooooo why change your sex?

2. Did I say that? I said we treat each person differently. We treat a sociopath as a sociopath, a psychopath as a psychopath, an autist as an autist. Does that imply treating them badly or the opposite? No. You treat them as the person they are because they are different.

3. I care about this **** so that's why I know and that's why I already confirmed it when no one did anything about it or spoke out except for one person from my knowledge. Paul Joseph Watson
User avatar #423 to #422 - labree (08/22/2015) [-]
>Not the attraction to biological gender soooooo why change your sex?

because its an unrelated issue. sexuality literally has nothing to with this issue. i dont know where you are making this connection. people who change their genders dont go"im attracted to guys, i must be in the wrong body" i assume they go"i feel like im in the wrong gender, i must be in the wrong gender."

>2. Did I say that? I said we treat each person differently. We treat a sociopath as a sociopath, a psychopath as a psychopath, an autist as an autist. Does that imply treating them badly or the opposite? No. You treat them as the person they are because they are different.

then why did you put fine at the end of that sentence?

does that make a sociopath, psychopath, or autist fine?

and it is a diffirent thing, so why are you comparing it to them.

>3. I care about this **** so that's why I know and that's why I already confirmed it when no one did anything about it or spoke out except for one person from my knowledge.

this is a seperate issue anyways, the issue is with people changing their genders, not whether people speak out about it.
#424 to #423 - aheael (08/22/2015) [-]
1. So you're telling me, they do it because they feel like they're in the wrong gender. Really really starting to sound like a mental illness. Please tell me how it isn't.

2. Fine as in "acceptable". Acceptable in their behaviour. The only time where I obviously imply, you again do not see that. The same as the little commercial part. You like to cherry pick and read what you see. But I didn't compare them, you did:

"... fact is literally everyones mind is different and the way that people cope or react to certain things is different. some doctors believe that changing genders solves some of the psychological issues that leads to wanting to be transsexuals. essentially being born with a "wrong gendered brain" "

Then I replied: "Everyone is different. Does that make a sociopath, psychopath, an autist fine? Your logic doesn't add up. Everyone is different so we treat each person differently. " So the one who brings up the need for comparison says why compare? Now you're not even repeating myself, you're blaming yourself.

3. So let's add this issue onto the commercial one too that you dropped because you clearly were wrong and you can't even admit it. So, instead, try to gently slip by. The hypocrisy is becoming much more stronger- go read what you said to me in your first reply in the last part.
#100 to #62 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
here we gooooo
im with ya
#125 to #100 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
SO REMEMBER LADS
EVEN IF YOU CHOP IT OFF
YOUR NOT MAKING IT BETTER

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
#154 to #62 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
It's not about pretending to be a women at all. That's not what transgender is. You're brain is actually a female brain in a male body. -.-
User avatar #167 to #154 - lulzdealer ONLINE (08/21/2015) [-]
i.e. a mental disorder.

The problem comes not from the person themselves, but our society which enables and even encourages this disorder rather than treating it as an illness and giving these people the help they need.
User avatar #201 to #167 - renespar (08/21/2015) [-]
and here we go again with "it's a mental disorder" your entire personality, thoughts, and who you are, relative to your thoughts reside in your brain. if you've got a woman's brain in a male body, that's not a "mental disorder" it's a body issue, one that hormones and, for some, surgery can fix, we can't change chromosomes but oh well, that's the limit of what we can do, gender dysphoria is the mental issue, and that's caused by living as the wrong gender, and the treatment is the hormones to make you more like the gender you are, so if you're a woman mentally forcing yourself to live as a male, that causes dysphoria, not being trans. now kindly go **** off you bigoted piece of trash
User avatar #322 to #201 - yibdiy (08/21/2015) [-]
Then they should kill themselves and hope for better luck next time, if they believe in reincarnation, I guess.
User avatar #354 to #322 - renespar (08/21/2015) [-]
or they could live their lives and people like lulz could go shove a cactus up their asshole
User avatar #355 to #354 - yibdiy (08/21/2015) [-]
That's not how you take a bait, get angry damn it.
User avatar #357 to #355 - renespar (08/21/2015) [-]
uhhh. grr, go... idk... something something bag of dicks
User avatar #358 to #357 - yibdiy (08/21/2015) [-]
Haha ******* got you
User avatar #359 to #358 - renespar (08/21/2015) [-]
you sure did, I am now of the owned, you showed me master ruseman
User avatar #360 to #359 - yibdiy (08/21/2015) [-]
psssh...nothin personnel...kid...
#415 to #201 - aheael (08/22/2015) [-]
You're not born a woman in a man's body. You're born as a human being, as you.
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Is it though? Or is it just something they believe? How can someone be sure of that? There really isn't any major difference between male and female brains. On a side note is also bears resemblance to the often parodied beast-kin-whatever stuff in that they feel they are an X trapped in a human's body. That's considered something completely different but may in fact be related.
User avatar #65 to #62 - labree (08/20/2015) [-]
thats like saying being homosexual is an unacceptable behavior.
biologically we are supposed to mate with females.
#71 to #65 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
No, that's not the same thing at all.
If a homo decided to cut a new hole between his balls and anus so his boyfriend wouldn't get **** on his dick, then it would be "like".
Homos like the same sex.
Trans have a mental disorder, whether they solve it with pills or cutting is their own thing but it is not like homos.
User avatar #72 to #71 - labree (08/20/2015) [-]
>biologically we are supposed to mate with females.

>Homos like the same sex.

>Trans have a mental disorder,

ignore what you dumbasses call"self mutilation"

by this logic homosexuals also have mental disorders.
User avatar #81 to #72 - lulzdealer ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
Congratulations, you have arrived at the correct conclusion based on the presented evidence. That's what we call "critical thinking".
#303 to #81 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
To be technical, homosexuality has several roots in development and multi-factor genes, and cannot actually be treated. Whereas gender dysphoria is basically hormone imbalance during fetal stages and should be treatable.
#342 to #303 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Only if it would be so simple. Those hormone "surges" the fetus gets during pregnancy are not easy to tamper with: they directly affect brain growth, a quick search of causes o transsexualism give you a lot of info. Nowadays it is a bit easier to change the body rather than change the brain, which might even prove unethical. (A way to "fix" the transsexual brain is lobothomia. Not exactly wise or nice thing to do.)
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User avatar #83 to #81 - labree (08/20/2015) [-]
yea sure biologically. the thing is human social lives dont always follow biology. to say that anybody who doesnt 100% follow biology has a mental disorder is rediculous.
User avatar #67 to #65 - lulzdealer ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
Which I also don't agree with, but for the sake of civility let's just I've got my opinions and you've got yours.
#111 to #67 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
User avatar #68 to #67 - labree (08/20/2015) [-]
jesus christ, get ready for the red thumbs man.
id keep arguing, but its a website where arguments are literally useless.
gg
User avatar #69 to #68 - lulzdealer ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
Goodness no, not the virtual red pinkies.
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#104 to #65 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
and really yes biologicaly we need to **** a uterus with a penis to make a baby
sure you can bypass either like adding a egg or whatever

you still the sum to make the whole
#109 to #104 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
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User avatar #317 to #27 - Shiny ONLINE (08/21/2015) [-]
What do you mean "acceptable"? If you think people should be legally forbidden to castrate themselves, you'll just turn it into an act of martyrdom.
User avatar #22 to #16 - crazyeyedbioll (08/20/2015) [-]
Look at that manwomanthing and tell me its attractive
#115 to #22 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
Two words:Bailey Jay
User avatar #119 to #115 - crazyeyedbioll (08/20/2015) [-]
Two words: No thanks
User avatar #264 to #16 - piekiller (08/21/2015) [-]
>transphobic
>not afraid of trannies

I don't get it
#430 to #264 - anon (08/23/2015) [-]
Exactly. People use whatever"phobic" in the context of accusing of hatred of that thing, not being afraid of it.

It's pathetic how so many can't even use words correctly.
User avatar #290 to #16 - Zaxplab (08/21/2015) [-]
I'm only transphobic if the boy isn't cute.
#217 to #16 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
nice buzzword faggot
User avatar #76 to #16 - picamix (08/20/2015) [-]
well im not transfobic, nor do i jerk it to traps.
also futanari is a hermaphrodite, they got both genitalia and look like girls dont judge me
#77 to #16 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
Yeah, but traps and futanari look like chicks.
#206 to #16 - ddoggdiggity (08/21/2015) [-]
I remember someone getting **** for saying the same thing
User avatar #93 to #16 - baronvonhuckle ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
Because only faggots like girls.
#133 to #93 - alexandervascus (08/20/2015) [-]
I bet he kisses girls, what a faggot.
User avatar #20 to #16 - heartlessrobot (08/20/2015) [-]
Some are, I'm not.
#131 to #16 - alexandervascus (08/20/2015) [-]
I can't speak for all of FJ, but I don't hate "Caitlyn" Jenner, I just don't give a **** or find her attractive.

Some guys are legitimately feminine, this was not the case for Bruce Jenner, but that doesn't mean I don't think she shouldn't be free to do what she wants, and I will respect her wishes regardless of my own personal opinions on aesthetic preferences or qualities.

As for sex changes, I feel mutilation of the genitalia shouldn't make you feel anymore like the gender you feel you are, if you think you're a woman or a man, I will treat you as such. As for otherkin and their mentally challenged ilk, can't vouch much for them.
I think it's a bit silly to cut off your junk, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have the choice available to them. People will do a lot of things that in hindsight might be bad for them, but mental health is important too.
User avatar #146 to #16 - captchakid ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
Thats because a trap by definition is so feminine and hot that you would mistake them for a girl.
#153 to #146 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
Well, a lot of transgender women are mistakable for actual women. If they pass well, you aren't gonna know they are trans. You're only going to know the ones that actually stand out.
User avatar #156 to #153 - captchakid ONLINE (08/21/2015) [-]
The point is those that are mistaken for women are like 9/10 on the hot scale. Anything lower and it gets more obvious they're trans/male.
#165 to #156 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
You've just got confirmation bias. How would you actually know if their trans? Have you seen in their pants? There are a lot of natural women who have pretty masculine traits. E.g., small hips, tall, etc. You're also use to the fact that the media talks a lot more about those in their 40s than those transitioning in their 20s.
#49 to #16 - ironsoul (08/20/2015) [-]
I am dating a trans dude.
#110 - gharshi (08/20/2015) [-]
if I met a trans gender person, I'd be just as nice to them as any other person, because what they're doing to themselves doesn't concern me. with that said, I still do see it as a mental disorder and shouldn't be enforced.    
   
I'm sorry but I can't stand for people mutilating their bodies because they absolutely 100% believe that their entire biology is wrong, and that there is still absolutely no way that it may be their mental health   
   
 but hey, that's just my opinion
if I met a trans gender person, I'd be just as nice to them as any other person, because what they're doing to themselves doesn't concern me. with that said, I still do see it as a mental disorder and shouldn't be enforced.

I'm sorry but I can't stand for people mutilating their bodies because they absolutely 100% believe that their entire biology is wrong, and that there is still absolutely no way that it may be their mental health

but hey, that's just my opinion
#158 to #110 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
You clearly don't understand what transgender means do you? Your brain is partially or fully feminized. You literally have a female brain in a male body. This is documented all over the animal kingdom. Transgender is not some random psychiatric disorder. It's a legit medical condition.
User avatar #190 to #158 - timmywankenobi (08/21/2015) [-]
it's a neurological disorder that causes psychological symptoms.
User avatar #215 to #158 - namenotallowed (08/21/2015) [-]
You clearly don't understand it based off that comment. The male and female gender roles are largely a social construct not a instinctive thing so I have no clue were you get the female brain bit. As far as its concerned though it is a hormonal and chemical thing that can give you dispositions towards male and female tendencies. The reason transgender is such a weird concept in the modern world is because we only have two genders which normally directly correlate with our sex. In few other cultures there is more than one gender to identify with to more properly place people based on how they feel. Even native americans had a place for men and women who felt more inclined to one side or another.
#198 to #158 - rollfourexplain (08/21/2015) [-]
**rollfourexplain used "*roll 1, 0000-9999*"**
**rollfourexplain rolls 2,426**

"female brain in a male body"

This is where you have lost me. What the heck does it mean? Human females and Human males are still pretty much the same, what's the difference? And how does anyone know that they are a female in the body of a man in the first place? This isn't chromosome related.

People are capable of many amazing things and it is plausible to say that (other than any proven cases of unusual neurological activity) they have convinced themselves that this fact is true.
#345 to #198 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
INAH3 part of the brain, for example. Google is your friend, remember. Zhou et al -researches have backed this up.

Basically, parts of your brain dictate how you physically "feel" your body. Men have a dick, women have something you'll never see. Men "feel" they have a penis, women "feel" they a vagina.
User avatar #356 to #345 - ninjaspartan (08/21/2015) [-]
The INAH3 part of the brain studied by Simon LeVay revolved around sexual orientation, not gender identification. And it didn't prove anything genetic or biological either. He himself has stated that people assume too much of what he discovered. The entirety of the size of the nucleus of that section of the brain is still effected by chemical reactions throughout multiple psychological aspects. You simply cannot compare homosexuality and transgenderism, it's not in any way related. And this is coming from a man who he himself was gay.
#346 to #110 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Yet we let people get tattoos and piercings, which are literally forms of mutilation in the name of art, half of it done horribly and causing damage.

We also let people smoke, drink, get fat, but for some reason THIS one issue is where everyone gets pissed off. The way I see it, if you do/have any of the above, you're just as sad.
User avatar #387 to #346 - gharshi (08/21/2015) [-]
it's not only the destructive part, but the delusion that makes me say that. a smoker knows he's damaging his lungs. a drinker knows he's damaging his liver. tattoos and piercings are accessories that mean something to the owner. you don't see someone who drinks, smokes, gets tattoos and gets fat just to "feel like themselves", as if they think they're in the wrong body and that they SHOULD be doing all those just to feel like themselves.

I don't understand why everyone have such a huge problem accepting that when it gets destructive, to a point where the person doesn't want to live unless they get a sex change, it should definetly be considered a mental illness. I mean imagine if everyone with an accepted mental illness suddenly decided that they're not actually ill. I mean there are some pretty far out there illnesses out there. yet this particular one is suddenly completely natural?

here's a content I made about abnormal mental illnesses a while back. in case you wanna see some other extreme cases;
/Rare+mental+disorders/funny-pictures/5059985/
#7 - tokazakime ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
#4 - freeb (08/20/2015) [-]
Sweet god, it's like someone cut off a rhino's horn, painted it brown and then tried to sell it of as a dairy cow. Isn't ambush a type of trap?
User avatar #8 to #4 - theanarchist (08/20/2015) [-]
Depends on the definition being used, an ambush can a be a type of trap in the more general sense, that it is an unexpected and violent thing, but more specifically traps are mechanical things meant to capture maim or kill just one or a few, while ambushes involved (usually armed) people attacking another person from within concealment and has no upper limit on its size, armies can ambush one another.
User avatar #221 to #214 - dorfdorfdorf (08/21/2015) [-]
he still has his nuts. all he did was get tiddies
User avatar #222 to #221 - Minnesota (08/21/2015) [-]
Yeah, but he is in the process of getting rid of them, hence he doesn't want them anymore.
User avatar #224 to #222 - dorfdorfdorf (08/21/2015) [-]
is he though?
User avatar #226 to #224 - Minnesota (08/21/2015) [-]
The publicity of getting tits, hair, and a dress is already beginning to subside. Once the papparazi gravy train stops flowing, going full vag is the next logical step to maintaining relevance.
User avatar #256 to #226 - vampired (08/21/2015) [-]
>going full vag
all my funnies
User avatar #232 to #226 - dorfdorfdorf (08/21/2015) [-]
>next logical step
my ***** let's be real here. is there any particle in your impressive brain that would ever lead you to assume that this thing will ever follow the next logical step?
#14 - demonfone (08/20/2015) [-]
Who gives a **** ?
#9 - tmdarby (08/20/2015) [-]
#287 - dillweed (08/21/2015) [-]
I've waited forever to use this. It seems so appropriate now. Thank you Jake.
User avatar #26 - wltwitch (08/20/2015) [-]
Remember folks we cant make fun of him/her/whatever because he/she/whatever is a "hero" for getting a hideous sex change that wouldn't fool anybody. ESPN and SJWs said so.
#283 - bahtzee (08/21/2015) [-]
Someone can go **** up their body to look like the opposite gender all they want, ok, I don't give a **** . But when they are given an award for being "brave" and doing something that could've seriously ****** them up and was completely unnecessary, that's ******* stupid.
#17 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
Trans here, this is actually ******* hilarious. Somehow I've never heard a bad passjob be called an ambush, but I love it.
#29 to #17 - lulzdealer ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
>Trans here

**** off, degenerate
User avatar #30 to #29 - trollmobile (08/20/2015) [-]
>hating people for being born different from you
no you **** off, degenerate.
#375 to #30 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Get ******* help for your mental illness. You are not ******* sane no matter how hard you think you are. You are not the other sex. Get some ******* help.
User avatar #60 to #30 - darthblam ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
No one is born trans..
It's a mental problem that should be treated and helped as such, not enabled through bodily mutilation and lies.
People need to learn how to accept themselves and their born bodies, not try to be something they physically can not possibly truly achieve.
No matter how much you choose to tear up your body or attach pieces of flesh, you can not change what you really are.

This isn't the same as being gay or straight.
User avatar #187 to #60 - elsanna (08/21/2015) [-]
>>#183,
#64 to #30 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
Born different.
Or.
Made different at a later date.
User avatar #31 to #30 - lulzdealer ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
>people are born in the opposite body

This is what liberals actually believe
#425 to #183 - aheael (08/22/2015) [-]
Read the sources you've posted.

"gender identity disorder" "lack of study" "Gender identity" and so on.

While lulzdealer was bad with his wording, the key word is "belief" here. Now you just went ahead and posted the science, which says it's all to do with gender identity and disorders and observing the brain patterns.

I will go with the implication that this is a mental disorder.
User avatar #426 to #425 - elsanna (08/22/2015) [-]
I never said that it isn't a mental disorder. But lulzdealer believes it's a choice, not a mental disorder.
#427 to #426 - aheael (08/22/2015) [-]
Ah sorry. Forgive me for the gains I'm about to receive
User avatar #32 to #31 - trollmobile (08/20/2015) [-]
>trans people are a figment of their own imagination
this is what lulzdealer actually belives
see how i used your name rather than a political labeling, because i'm not a ******* retard?
User avatar #34 to #32 - lulzdealer ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
>implying it isn't a choice

this is what trollmobile, who more than likely is a liberal but doesn't like being called one, believes.
User avatar #35 to #34 - trollmobile (08/20/2015) [-]
yes, i'm very, very clearly implying that.
i'm a libertarian.
#36 to #35 - lulzdealer ONLINE (08/20/2015) [-]
I remember when I was a lolbertarian.

Some day you'll grow up. Someday.
#88 to #36 - jujuface (08/20/2015) [-]
when your only argument is pretending you're older than the other person on the internet
User avatar #38 to #36 - trollmobile (08/20/2015) [-]
oh and before you whine about me blocking you, yes, i did, because you're a ******* retard, and i'm trying to limit the amount of retards i speak to on FJ
#40 to #38 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
translation: I can't handle people with different opinons because it triggers me
User avatar #41 to #40 - trollmobile (08/20/2015) [-]
see? there you went ahead and whined anyway
#42 to #41 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
You're the one blocking people because they don't agree with you, and I'm the whiny one?

K.
User avatar #44 to #42 - trollmobile (08/20/2015) [-]
no no no, i don't mind you having a different political view than me, that's all fine and dandy
it's the part where you act like a rude retard that i don't like, and this site has this fancy feature where you can block people you don't like, so you don't have to speak to them anymore.
now if you'll excuse me, i got porn to wank to, so i won't be responding here anymore.
#45 to #44 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
"H-H-He was RUDE to me!!!!11!! Muh Triggers!!!!!"
#50 to #45 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
Congratulations. If you hadn't already lost the argument, you did with that comment.
#124 to #38 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
You're going to have to block almost all of funnyjunk.
User avatar #127 to #124 - trollmobile (08/20/2015) [-]
well there's usually a certain treshold of retardation i'm willing to deal with
#37 to #36 - trollmobile (08/20/2015) [-]
i'm a social libertarian, economic social-democratic.
#205 to #37 - renespar (08/21/2015) [-]
here's one for dealing with most stormfags/polfags, first time I used it I got blocked, so clearly it strikes a nerve
User avatar #230 to #205 - trollmobile (08/21/2015) [-]
danks m8
User avatar #231 to #230 - renespar (08/21/2015) [-]
don't thank me, I'm not the one who made it
#122 to #36 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
When were you planning to grow up?
User avatar #98 to #31 - anonymoose (08/20/2015) [-]
It depends on your definition of what "you" are. I believe that a person is entirely their brain, the body is just a suit that the brain uses to function, we can replace any part of the body except the brain and still be the same person.

Scientific studies into transgendered people has shown that the brain of a transgendered person more reflects the gender they identify with than the sex of their body.

www.journalofpsychiatricresearch.com/article/S0022-3956 (10)00158-5/abstract
#118 to #17 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
Hey man/gal don't listen to these assholes. I can see why you anoned this comment. Keep doing your thing, 70% of funnyjunk has mental disorders and they're going to try to lecture you about your "mental disorder", **** them,
User avatar #147 to #118 - hairysmellyanus (08/20/2015) [-]
White knight so beta you cant even go after real girls.
#86 - dawggz (08/20/2015) [-]
#59 - canadianbetamale (08/20/2015) [-]
Wait are we still talking about Bruce Jenner?

why?
#160 to #59 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Faggotry is wrong an gender never changes.

Also i just want to take this opportunity to say that the teen titans cartoon was designed to do what it did: to raise a generation of super idiots. If you like that show, you are an idiot, only when you see how stupid, and manipulative of immature people, that and other garbage like it are will you begin to become an actual adult.
User avatar #66 to #59 - Elk (08/20/2015) [-]
Because racist ***** like you don't call her Caitlyn.
User avatar #143 to #66 - mewtastic (08/20/2015) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kODnzx694PQ
This is my opinion on this dumb ******* family.
#144 to #143 - Elk (08/20/2015) [-]
I really don't care. I was joking. Did no one catch the fact that I called him racist?
User avatar #145 to #144 - mewtastic (08/20/2015) [-]
I knew as soon as I saw racist.
I forgot to mention it.
#348 to #59 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
Because as much as they say otherwise, 4chan can get extremely salty about the smallest things and constantly bring them up whenever they can. Pretty much the worst bunch of sore losers, if they can't get the last word in on a topic, it'll be put everywhere and they'll resort to flinging **** to try and have a retarded last laugh.
User avatar #329 - numbmind (08/21/2015) [-]
I'm a man on the outside, but on the inside i'm still a man because i don't have a mental problem...
#335 to #329 - anon (08/21/2015) [-]
You idiot, being a man IS a mental problem. Get with the times, cis scum.
User avatar #340 to #335 - numbmind (08/21/2015) [-]
**numbmind used "*roll 1, cis privilege*"**
**numbmind rolls Not fearing interactions with police officers due to your gender identity.**
#433 to #335 - anon (08/24/2015) [-]
Nah, being a feminist is a mental problem. Before you call me sexist, let me just say this. I was born female and identify as female. If you think being a man is a mental problem, then YOU'RE the mental problem. Have a nice day, idiot! (And yes, women who do not believe in this feminism **** do exist, we just seem to be pretty rare)
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