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$it's nice when. somebody does math for me. fun statistics for adults! when I was a kid, I had no help with college tuition, I was hardworking and paid it all my$

somebody does math for me

fun statistics for adults!
when I was a kid, I had no help with
college tuition, I was hardworking and
paid it all myself"
Annual tuition for Yale, 1970: , 550
Annual tuition for 'Y' ale, 2014: , 800
Minimums Wage, 1970: . 45
Wage, 2014: . 25
Daily hours at minimum wage needed
to pay for tuition in 1970: 4, 8
Daily hours at minimum wage needed
to pay for tuition in 2014: 17. 3
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#83 - lpjazzman ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

First, you're going to Yale. If you can't afford it, why not shop around a bit. Hell, go to a community college and get an AS in general studies then start the rest of your 4 year. Boom there's a ton of money saved. Second, Most universities only allow you to take a maximum of 19 hours per week anyway. Seems to me that's still less than a "normal" week of work in terms of hours. Also, and this is coming from someone who works for a living, 40 hours per week would be a dream for most people, 60 is more the average.

If you want this whole #real talk ******** , then follow me on this: I get it, Yale is expensive, but if you can't afford it, why would you go there? That's like shopping for an Astin Martin when you make 50k USD a year. Go to a school you can afford; you don't have to go to a huge university to succeed in life. Scholarships and Grants are out there; remember when you parents told you grades mattered? On top of all this, don't be afraid to "work" for free, experience will pay off in the long run. And don't get me started on how the US military is willing to help you pay for school. Go cook breakfast for 3 years and get a 4 year degree with a decent stipend afterwards.

I get that minimum wage is tough, but there are ways to get what you want in the world, but you have got to be willing to do them. You also have to be willing to compromise. Drive a ****** car, work a ****** job, don't eat out, read a book instead of live on Netflix, do your homework, and go to a school you can afford. Its not easy, but much simpler than being 183,200USD in debt while having no decent job experience and no decent income. You've got to earn it.

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#216 to #83 - mattsonion (12/16/2015) [-]

Also if you can get accepted into yale you damn well sure can get a ******* of grants and scholarships

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#249 to #83 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

Isn't it true, that basically going to a good, renowned college, grants you much more opportunities in future? If so, why is money in particular so important to get there? Why isn't knowledge and hard work a main reason to get into such college, instead depending on how thick wallet and how good college fund someone's parents have? Have you heard of something called "grade inflation"? It's a situation where prestigious colleges are more prone to giving students high grades, because it makes them look good in statistics, even though they students wouldn't get such good grades if they were rated with standard measures.

Why are you allowed to get better education - hence more money - when you already have money? And when you don't - tough **** , go to some small, meaningless college, and receive a degree that won't matter **** , so you'll work at McDonald's at best. It's a loop hole the world has been stuck in since hundreds of years.

As far as I managed to observe, and that makes your shopping metaphor pretty ironic, because indeed - big colleges run on brands. Just like cars, or iPhones. And thus, like other brands, they can skyrocket prices just thanks to their popularity, which doesn't reflect their quality, or true value.

Point being: This is ******** . Knowledge shouldn't have a brand. But since we allowed it to happen, we have absurdly expensive colleges with grades inflation, because everything is dictated by money.

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#254 to #249 - thepineapple (12/16/2015) [-]

The flaw in your statement is this:
"receive a degree that won't matter **** , so you'll work at McDonald's at best"
You chose what to study, and hence the degree you get.
Too many dumbasses out there, who wanna party and live like grown-children and ignore the facts of life; so they take up an easy university profile (linguistic, physiology, tourism, etc.) and then when studies are over, they try to search for a job and realize their degree will get them:
- receptionist
- customer service (in a store, in a call center)
- lots of other jobs that don't actually require any specific degree to get hired

It's their very own fault from the start.

'Plan if you can, improvise if you must' - me

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#256 to #254 - ciacheczko (12/16/2015) [-]

Someone who goes to college to learn about women studies obviously doesn't deserve a great job.

But I think anon means, that if an employer has to choose between - for example - IT graduate from Yale, and IT graduate from small, unknown college, he would choose Yale one every time. And this shouldn't really matter that much. Like when people buy super expensive regular T-shirts by Kanye West 100$ each over identical 5$ T-shirt from supermarket. Brand suggestion is a powerful tool, and the moment it impacts people's lives and jobs, chances of success and having a good life - that's when things go little overboard, no?

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#257 to #256 - thepineapple (12/16/2015) [-]

But it does. Think about it.
If you don't have any work-experience, the employee can only judge you on factors that are relative; it's human nature as well: would you choose a BMW or a car from a manufacturer that launched yesterday, without the possibility of reading reviews or test-driving the car first?
You'll bet your money on what 'may' be more successful, based on it's 'emblem's' heritage.

One associates popularity, renown-ess, prestige, and history of successful people graduating from Yale.
It's the very reason Yale can change more for the same courses that you can get in C-Grade university.

There's no way around it.

But knowing this, shouldn't be an excuse to say 'I give up, why bother!'.
In fact, knowing this allows you to prepare yourself ahead.

If you don't make it to Yale, then you have several years to improve your chances:
part-time jobs, internships, extra curricular actives, certifications.
We all acknowledge the fact that this is the 'hard path', but this acknowledgement will also be made by the Hiring Manager who will appreciate your effort and see you in a crowd of fresh-graduates with no experience.

tl;dr
Yale will allow you to aim higher, but you can only play the cards you were dealt.
Complaining that life is unfair, is totally inefficient means of the little time you have between starting university and going on your first interview.

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#258 to #257 - ciacheczko (12/16/2015) [-]

"In fact, knowing this allows you to prepare yourself ahead. "

This is where the conversation loops to that problem. You can't, unless you already have money.

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#290 to #83 - DevilsCalling ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]

as someone who has work for free for over 900 hours let me tell u **** that. i will never work for free another day in my life. and you can blow me if someone were to ask. or a place told me i had too. i dont give a **** about experience. you want work you pay for it. these places that tell you work for free and you get a job they dont hire you. work for free is ******** when i have to put food on the table. and just to let you know the 900 hours was free and they said oh do 500 hours and you get full time 900 untracked hours later they were like oh sorry cant help you. ARE YOU ******* KIDDING ME? i built this ******* place into what it is. and i laughed LAUGHED when that **** hole went out of business.

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#236 to #83 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

You missed the point entirely.

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#124 to #83 - sacrilegious ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

"If you can't afford it, why would you go there?"

Because Yale is a good school, and the best students should be able to go to the best schools no matter how much money their parents made.

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#129 to #124 - lpjazzman ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

You're right, and most students without parents rich enough to pay for it outright are trying to go on merit. Many schools offer student-work programs which either greatly reduce or eliminate the cost of school. Not to mention, if a kid is trying to go there on merit, they've probably worked their ass off to get good grades for scholarships and grants. Work hard and earn what you want.

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#132 to #129 - sacrilegious ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

What this content is pointing out is that it was much easier to work hard and earn what you want 20 years ago or whatever. Working while going to school is hard, and when my parents grew up they could work full-time over the summer and pay for their next year of school without having to work during the school year.

It's about the generation gap and the continuing struggle college students face, not telling people they deserve Yale for free.

Regardless of how you feel about it, going to college is getting more difficult, and that's probably not a good thing.

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#89 to #83 - infinitereaper (12/16/2015) [-]

*sighs*
The point is that Yale used to be affordable for anybody who would apply themselves and not just a pipe dream for rich kids with trust funds.
In today's world, the only way to have the American dream is to start business, outsource everything to China, and make money at the expense of other Americans dreams. What a time to be alive.

*sighs*
The point is that Yale used to be affordable for anybody who would apply themselves and not just a pipe dream for rich kids with trust funds.
In today's world, the only way to have the American dream is to start business, outsource everything to China, and make money at the expense of other Americans dreams. What a time to be alive.

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#99 to #89 - theguythatisnotyou (12/16/2015) [-]

But if you do actually apply yourself there are thousands of scholarships out there and the Ivy League schools have tons of full-ride scholarships. College isn't a pipe dream. The only people who think so are people who didn't apply themselves.

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#177 to #99 - nigeltheoutlaw (12/16/2015) [-]

Even if you're in the top 1% of students, there's not enough scholarships to go around at that level. Apparently "applying yourself" means "be really lucky".

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#10 - andywazowski (12/15/2015) [-]

Glorious free education. But on a serious note, I feel so bad for a lot of people who can't acess education, or have to take insane loans from banks, just to get a devent education. It's just wrong to cripple people from a young age, and make it such a big risk to get an education.

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#117 to #10 - severepwner (12/16/2015) [-]

If you want free education here, what you can do is well join the damn military for one contract.

Pretty hardcore, but you can still save yourself a **** ton of money and a lot of financial stress. But still gotta give like 4 years of your life for that, which shouldn't be necessary.

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#148 to #117 - notanotheraccount (12/16/2015) [-]

hand over 4 years, be in relatively good health, pass BT, and then its free. Im a healthy person and dont qualify for the military Bad hips and ankles Its not open for everyone, and wont always cover the entire cost.

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#211 to #117 - jdizzleoffthehizzl (12/16/2015) [-]

Ahhh yes go into debt or put my life on the line, sadly I chose the life and I've been regretting it for the past four years

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#72 to #10 - morebuckets (12/16/2015) [-]

This isn't relevant at all, but it's not really "Free" education.

I'm not defending how broken the American system is (seriously, BROKEN) but it's not like you're not paying for it at some point.

If nothing else, America has county colleges. A good county college is no worse than your typical university, and you get two years for basically the same "free" number.

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#82 to #72 - Shiny (12/16/2015) [-]

Who ******* cares if it's not literally free? If I have to pay for it in taxes, I'll be doing so when I'm already successful and can afford to do so without thinking.

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#96 to #82 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

So you're gonna be so successful a higher tax rate wont be noticeable, but a mere 50k in student loans is a big deal? That doesn't make alot of sense

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#146 to #96 - Shiny (12/16/2015) [-]

>a mere 50K

A

MERE

FIFTY

THOUSAND

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#244 to #146 - andywazowski (12/16/2015) [-]

He took a small loan of a million dollars, no biggie

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#97 to #82 - obviouscaptain (12/16/2015) [-]

That was be my the way

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#25 to #10 - anon (12/15/2015) [-]

It's terrible for the nation as well, a complete waste of human capital in service of some misbegotten political ideology. Free public school tuition is the surest path to national prosperity and the vast majority of first-world countries know it.

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#4 - randomuploads (12/15/2015) [-]

Why are you people still living there? No education and no healthcare because all of your tax-money goes to bombing brown people. Just move to Europe or Australia or something.

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#210 to #4 - jdizzleoffthehizzl (12/16/2015) [-]

If it wasn't for the bomb ass wifi and walmart I'd move

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#11 to #4 - kiaserzerg (12/15/2015) [-]

we still like the option to choose whether or not to defend our homes and ourselves with lethal intent if need be. that and not being a eurocuck.

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#17 to #11 - joeyliquid (12/15/2015) [-]

I would prefer to live in Japan or Greenland. Either would be nice, I either get non-stop tentacles or literally no one around to piss me off. Its a win-win.

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#85 to #17 - manza (12/16/2015) [-]

Both increase chance of suicide and depression.

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#27 to #11 - kanadetenshi (12/15/2015) [-]

Having hundreds of bases in other countries is defending your home?

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#35 to #27 - anon (12/15/2015) [-]

And yours, probably.

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#37 to #35 - kanadetenshi (12/15/2015) [-]

I don't exactly feel being defended by a mass murdering imperialist superpower.

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#78 to #11 - mixedfeelings (12/16/2015) [-]

well memed friend

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#18 to #4 - hitlerdubs (12/15/2015) [-]

I dont want to convert to Islam

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#80 to #4 - Shiny (12/16/2015) [-]

Choosing to fund tuition and safety nets instead of overspending on military is much easier to do than to revamp an entire culture.

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#128 to #4 - slias (12/16/2015) [-]

Yeah nah cunt, we're full.

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#6 to #4 - djlite (12/15/2015) [-]

In Europe and Oz it's too difficult to shoot up schools.

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#8 - muffincannibal ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]

Charge the phone.

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#58 to #8 - theshinypen (12/15/2015) [-]

Focusing on inportant things here.

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#134 - nyuORlucy ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

so its not the wage. its the ******* prices

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#178 to #134 - nigeltheoutlaw (12/16/2015) [-]

It is the wage. Wages have mostly stagnated for decades while prices continue to inflate without stop. If wages rose in a comparable fashion with inflation then the prices would be a non issue.

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#101 - geese (12/16/2015) [-]

students:we need loans for school
government/banks:k, have some loans
school:they have more money, lets charge more tuition
students:we need more loans for school
and so on.

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#152 to #101 - notanotheraccount (12/16/2015) [-]

So the schools are the bad ones in this situation?

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#160 to #152 - geese (12/16/2015) [-]

not exactly, if a school charges low tuition, it won't have as many luxuries, known professors, etc and won't attract the best students. People won't want to go there, and it won't do well.

My point was that the one of the reasons that college has gotten more expensive is that people wanted it to be more affordable. It isn't that anyone is bad, its just how things work.

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#191 to #160 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

I was a financial assistant at 3 separate universities and I will tell you the rising cost has little to do with luxuries. A lot of the money earned in the tuition raises goes to administrative bonuses. Colleges are the bad guys in this situation. I really wish whistle blowers would mitigate the courts costs and release this information so schools can stop with this corrupt behavior.

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#34 - lolollo (12/15/2015) [-]

What I will never understand about humanity is the inflated drive to be correct taking precedence over the possibility of improving the way we live.

"Back in my day, we didn't need to cook food, we just ate it raw!"
"Cooking it makes it easier to store and digest..."
"You're just making excuses, go to your cave!"

What I will never understand about humanity is the inflated drive to be correct taking precedence over the possibility of improving the way we live.

"Back in my day, we didn't need to cook food, we just ate it raw!"
"Cooking it makes it easier to store and digest..."
"You're just making excuses, go to your cave!"

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#30 - bgsteiner (12/15/2015) [-]

I scrolled down to expect half of the comments to be on how low that battery was instead you are arguing politics and economics. wow has this place changed.

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#71 to #30 - battlebrotherlayn (12/16/2015) [-]

Ya, but 8%? ***** sake charge your phone.

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#21 - economicfreedom (12/15/2015) [-]

When I was a kid, I had no help with college tuition; I was hardworking and paid it all myself.

It is the current year

Learn how to budget, make responsible decisions.
Your debt, if any, will be completely manageable.

When I was a kid, I had no help with college tuition; I was hardworking and paid it all myself.

It is the current year

Learn how to budget, make responsible decisions.
Your debt, if any, will be completely manageable.

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#219 to #21 - sphincterface (12/16/2015) [-]

Yeah great job, all you're doing is repeating exactly what people from previous generations are saying. I've heard this whole **** a million times over and it doesn't make a difference.

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#264 to #219 - economicfreedom (12/16/2015) [-]

people from previous generations had personal responsibility

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#261 to #219 - economicfreedom (12/16/2015) [-]

I'm aware college used to be a lot cheaper, but if you're $50,000 in debt and can't handle it, it's your own fault

learn how to budget; it makes a world of diffference

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#29 to #21 - trollmobile (12/15/2015) [-]

"it's the current year"
is really ******* relevant when the effective price has more than quadrupled.

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#36 to #21 - cheastnut [OP](12/15/2015) [-]

guy's I think he's being sarcastic.

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#62 to #36 - economicfreedom (12/16/2015) [-]

according to my projections, my tuition will be completely covered halfway through senior year

I will graduate with no debt

according to my projections, my tuition will be completely covered halfway through senior year

I will graduate with no debt

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#187 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

You realize there are people working their way through college today right? And maybe instead of forcing business's to pay you large amounts of money for work a monkey could do, we should address the real problem, that problem being the corrupt school system. It's the schools driving up their prices to fund non educated related things, professors get payed six figures for the most part, there is massive amounts of waste and abuse in the school system. yet for some reason retards think the poor schools are just trying to survive, they're swimming in wealth while blaming every thing else for their price hikes.

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#213 to #187 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

>large amounts of money
ha

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#38 - bagofshenanigans (12/15/2015) [-]

> Yale

If you're poor, you shouldn't expect to be able to enroll in Yale. If you're rich you'll be the laughing stock of your country club for having enrolled in a D-list Ivy League university. Cough up the dough for a real university or go back to your local college like the pleb that you are.

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#212 to #38 - jdizzleoffthehizzl (12/16/2015) [-]

Or maybe they should just buy more money

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#170 to #38 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

Yale is a school for the smart not the rich

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#218 to #170 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

"smart" yeah thats why yale has been in the news for sjw ******** nowadays

i mean its really ridiculous whats happening over there atm

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#138 to #38 - civilizationv ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

damn my knee grow you are str8 savage

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#168 to #38 - Zaxplab (12/16/2015) [-]

Rich kid detected.

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#95 to #38 - ilovehitler (12/16/2015) [-]

Yale was just an example, you could do the same for any school.

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#115 to #38 - severepwner (12/16/2015) [-]

Well that was rood.

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#127 to #38 - donatelo (12/16/2015) [-]

this can easily apply to other schools, not just yale.

but...why is yale a d-list school?

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#149 to #127 - notanotheraccount (12/16/2015) [-]

Its only d-list for an Ivy League. There are more experienced professors, more job opportunities, and a better education at most of the other Ivy Leagues. In terms of any university, its A-list.

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#66 - notenoughtortillas (12/16/2015) [-]

community college bruh and then just transfer. Saves tons and also JC's offer tons of financial aid plus JC transfers get priority over those from high school in terms of acceptance

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#188 to #66 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

That's not always the case. In California there is a huge issue with JC transfers and even highschool transfers having lower priority than out of state transfers. In southern california it is pretty difficult to get into one of the local universities from a JC. Most people I know from JC ended up going to a university in northern california or out of state. To top it off, many of the classes you take in JC don't even count towards your full 4 year but are still required to transfer. The whole educational system in California is ******** atm.

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#217 to #188 - sphincterface (12/16/2015) [-]

Unfortunately that's just when out of state colleges are the best option.

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#239 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

after earning two degrees my experience says this

> Expensive universities are ONLY good for making expensive contacts
> Any Uni education in general either will help you start a corporate career or again - make friends useful contacts
> you really don't need much education to make Money and make it big in life. To a large part it all depends on how well you react to opportunities, how naturally intelligent you are and how much energy you have (i.e. how much work you can do. Remember you absolutely have to portion work and relaxing, like partying, or you'll suffer a nice breakdown). I've been a part of projects where Money is made almost from nothing. Education helps if you are capable of being an expert - the most importatn Building block in a team. If you are naturally gifted with organizing skills - sitting in uni may not bring you much joy.
> Education is better than doing nothing. I.e. if you are undecided about where you want to invest 90% of your free time, you better run some classes. I've wasted some years because I was undecided if I want to pursue corporate, government or private career or maybe change my perspective altogether. I could've earned a degree in economics while I was pondering.
> If you are too poor for education - by all gods, start a simple buy-sell company. You'll often learn a huge deal from simply doing some small business, even if it is not successful.

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#23 - barstoolninja ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]

My tuition+fees 2015: ~$10,000 / year
Amount I actually have to pay after my financial aid kicks in: $3000

So yeah, how about not ******* going to one of the most expensive schools in the country on minimum wage? Learn to manage your ******* budget, cunts.

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#195 to #23 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

That's really ******* nice for you bro. It costs me 27k a year(14k after financial aid). This is on top of what I have to pay for my ****** studio apartment, car insurance, electricity, food, water, medical expenses, supplies, books, gas, and other expenses.

I make 11.75 an hour and working full time I can't even ******* come close to being able to pay for all that **** without my parents' help. It is also a time thing as well. Classes and hw easily take up 6-10 hours of a given day. Add 6-8 hours of work any anything else I need to do and sometimes I literally don't have time. Humans need to sleep too. I am working my ass off but if it wasn't for my parents' help, I would be ******* dunzo.

To think some state representatives want to cut financial aid too.

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#199 to #195 - barstoolninja ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

Let me guess? Out of state tuition, or private university? Either way, not the best choice.

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#33 to #23 - frenzyhero (12/15/2015) [-]

The idea is that tuition has skyrocketed but wages or financial aid haven't kept up.

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#39 to #33 - barstoolninja ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]

Lets run the numbers: $7.25 minimum wage requires ~1379 hours of work to make $10000. Or, in other words, 3.77 hours a day working to pay tuition at a non-overpriced university. The wage has kept up just fine.

If you aren't smart enough to realize that you don't need to go to one of the most expensive, overpriced schools in the country to succeed, then you don't belong in college to begin with.

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#196 to #39 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

I go to one of the cheaper universities in California and it is still 21k. Stop ******* trying.

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#200 to #196 - barstoolninja ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

Is that just 'tuition and fees', or does that include room and board, meal plan, and non resident fees as well?

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#185 to #39 - nigeltheoutlaw (12/16/2015) [-]

The average tuition is over $30,000 a year. >>#74 You being a statistical outlier doesn't make you any less incorrect here, so please just stop trying.

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#263 to #185 - economicfreedom (12/16/2015) [-]

did you even check the link? the number he provided was for private 4 year colleges
not public universities

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#203 to #185 - barstoolninja ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

Really? because I just went and looked up the actual annual tuition costs for several random universities(Alabama state, LSU, USC, Notre Dame, San Diego State, Texas State, Texas A&M, Mississipi State, Oklahoma state, etc). Outside of Notre Dame, A&M, and USC, all the others were under $10k for just tuition and fees for residents, which is all I'm looking at, because its all the OP's post mentioned.

Which, by the way, I looked it up, and Yale's tuition in 1970, the tuition was as expensive as $3900, and in 1976, it was $4400. And that's ONLY tuition. Not exactly as cheap as the OP made it out to be.

Either way, as far as I see it, if you're paying more than $10k a year for tuition alone, you're doing something wrong.

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#206 to #203 - nigeltheoutlaw (12/16/2015) [-]

Sorry, I meant overall cost, not tuition. I am unsure if the OP made a similar mistake, as it is a pretty common colloquialism for overall college costs as far as I have seen. You are right that just tuition is usually not near 30k, but when you factor in living costs, class fees, books, etc. it balloons up very fast. Even living with your parents and attending a nearby school (if you're lucky enough to be close to an affordable one) isn't going to cost as much as just base tuition.

For an example, I had to leave California for my education because even IN STATE college costs at university that had the degree I wanted were more than me coming to Arizona like I did. My tuition (just tuition) here is 10k a year or so, but back home for the only nearby school with my degree, it would have been over 13k. And that's not counting the one way hour commute, higher costs of fees and food, etc. I wanted to start at community college, but I'd already fulfilled most of my GEs through AP and IB coursework in high school, so it made far more sense time wise to just go straight into uni, so that wasn't an option in my case. The point is that claiming that just because you did it one way means every one can do it that way is just silly.

>Either way, as far as I see it, if you're paying more than $10k a year for tuition alone, you're doing something wrong.
>what are opinions
>what are different colleges having differing quality and/or offered degrees

Assuming your own situation can be applied to anybody else is really naive breh. You got lucky, that's all it is.

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#147 - volksworgen (12/16/2015) [-]

When the meme man don't understand what inflation is.

When the meme man don't understand what inflation is.

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#201 - anon (12/16/2015) [-]

This is more than a slight manipulation.

The cost of private universities has gone up by a higher percentage than public universities, and part of that is because they're gouging since more people are trying to get in than they can take. Really, private schools ought to be seen as a luxury item. Would you make the same comparison with private high schools or Mercedes cars? If not then maybe you'll see part of the reason why I don't agree with your agenda.

So the average tuition cost for public universities for in-state students has gone from roughly 900$ in the 1970s to roughly 9000$ now. And actually, many statistics I find conflict on this topic; other sources have said that the average is closer to 5000$ now, which is about what I paid for San Jose State.

May I also remind you that community college is even cheaper, averaging 1000$ to 2000$ pending who you ask.

So for in-state tuition... The percentage increase in minimum wage has been about the same as the percentage increase in tuition. And if you can't afford that then community college is still an option for at least your general ed.

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#198 - huzibizi (12/16/2015) [-]

charge your ******* phone mate

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#167 - midgetslayer ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

I guess if you ignore financial aid this is meaningful....

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#174 to #167 - virck (12/16/2015) [-]

You damn scrub, Financial Aid doesn't exist, it's all money you owe in one form or another, you just can't FAIL classes being like "Free money!!!"

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#179 to #174 - midgetslayer ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

lol. Tell that to my $3300 state university grant that pays for half my tuition ******* . Back when i had the federal pell grant that was another $3000 and i had no tuition. Cry me a ******* river. Just because you're too stupid to research financial aid doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

And who the **** fails a class? I've met met anybody that has failed a class.

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#180 to #179 - virck (12/16/2015) [-]

Lol, I have one up on you, I gave 5 years of my life to the military, I've been living free ride for the past 2 1/2 years just on the money I make going to college, but I can't fail my classes, or drop them, otherwise I owe that money, anything less is a damn disgrace. Anything short of giving 5 years of your life, for 3 years of education is a damn disgrace.

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#182 to #180 - midgetslayer ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

lol marine corps veteran here. Gi Bill plus unemployment plus financial aid. Are we arguing? I cant tell.

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#183 to #182 - virck (12/16/2015) [-]

How are you collecting unemployment? I'm currently doing Work study for my university! Teach me senpai.

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#193 to #183 - midgetslayer ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

Im not anymore. i collected for two years when i got out. I was infantry so i didnt have any "job skills" from my service. You qualify for unemployment after your service b/c they "let" you go.

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#194 to #193 - virck (12/16/2015) [-]

Oh, you're totally right, I collected unemployment for about 6 months after my service, I just didn't do anything with it other than live it up. Then I got a job for about a year, then I decided to go to school full time and live off that money instead.

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#204 to #179 - sketchE ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]

i failed every class for three stright semesters. college wasnt for me

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#91 - robuntu (12/16/2015) [-]

********

Yale will cover 100% of your tuition, based on your financial need. WITHOUT student loans. Whoever wrote this clearly didn't go to Yale.

finaid.yale.edu/costs-affordability
For undergraduates with financial need, our aid awards meet 100% of a family’s demonstrated need without using loans.

Yes, yes, lots of worthless degree mills will take your tuition, give you a piece of paper four years later, and leave you working at Starbucks with 100-200k in student loans. Yale is not one of them.

If you're smart, go to Yale or any of the schools like it. Either your family is rich or they'll give you a free ride.

If you aren't smart, go to a community college, take AP classes, take CLEP exams, transfer to a four year university. Yale is in CT - you can go to Western for 10k a year. You can graduate from a four year uni in two years, if you spend your time at a community college first.

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#98 to #91 - theguythatisnotyou (12/16/2015) [-]

It is really easy to not get in as much debt as people think. The only catch is you actually have to work for it. Shocker I know.

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#1 - mintpeanutbutter ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]

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