He's the guy we need to make famous, because he doesn't give a **** about it.
He's cutting and running because he believes the movement is corrupted and dead.
scared of becoming the very thing you fight. When you fight monsters, you fight two battles. One against the monster, and another against yourself to not become it.
These two sum up my thoughts on IA leaving pretty well, ESPECIALLY Sargon.
I mean what a melodramatic way to go. I love Jim and his videos and still do, but this was seriously scummy of him, and he is not beyond criticism. When **** hits the fan he runs away, which accomplishes jack **** , except demoralizing people. And, yes I agree with MundaneMatt about this, which is funny because I haven't agreed with most anything he has ever said. He ****** up, people called him out, now he is running away,(I know he has had previous youtube profiles before and said he will shut down this channel just like the rest, I've been following him since before he was Internet Aristocrat). This is the 3rd time he said he was quitting GG. I think its funny how in his farewell message he has all the answers, about where it went wrong, and what we should have done, and what killed GG. But, where were those answers when he was part of gamergate. If he was so damn smart why didn't he lead the way? I don't want people to think I hate IA, I don't but this was some real faggy **** he pulled. Just because I like him, and we all love him does not mean he is beyond criticism.
Also **** all this e-celeb ******** . My anus is prepared for the red thumb rape.
Have you managed to figure out what IA's new channel is called. It's confirmed its up. I wish his sorry ass had stayed long enough to upload the otherkin video so I wouldn't have to go on some goddamned goose chase to get some cheap yucks.
MFW IA pulled this **** .
I doubt that is true. Take anything King of Cuck says with a grain of salt. He has been caught multiple times lying, and he is just a plain old idiot. Also he claims to frequent /pol/, Kop is basically an idiot who can't see past the memes and believes them. Just ignore him.
I know I'm probably not as smart as he is, I know I do not "know" him, but it seems to me like this video cheapens his image. I don't agree with him 100%, but you don't need to to see what I am seeing. He's hiding from this thing he helped establish, and that makes his message less affective than the likes of FuryBelle... an anti-femiextremist comedy blog about ponies of all things.
I tried to stay out of this whole thing, but now I can't, and that is what's getting me the most upset, the fact that I finally got sucked into the war machine.
I've remained 100% silent on gamergate so far. The only thing I have to say is...don't buy **** from either side unless you are buying EXACTLY what is being sold. If you wanna donate to chairty event by SJWs, then go ahead, it helps those in need. However, GG holds a lot more charities like this and that's why I find myself leaning far in favor of them. I've seen nothing but idiocy from SJWs, but I have seen idiocy from GG as well. This means that the innate flaws of mankind are shown through GG, so their policies aren't bad. However SJWs don't have solid footing in the first place for their arguments, and because of that there's nothing good that can come of those arguments on their side.
This is our chance now more then ever. He is right we have lost our way, and we have started along the exact same path as the SJW and all who side with them. We ****** up, and because of it we lost one of our greatest voices! Now WE have to change, We need to remember Why we started and Who we are fighting. This is not a loss, This is a kick in the ass telling us to get our *********** together and get back our edge. We are Gamergate, and we will prevail. Even with all the ******* odds against us, We. Will. Persevere.
He is potentially a psychopath but he's genuine
Sarks is a ******* conartist and a bad one at that, her **** having been seen and called a long time ago. She's nothing more than a professional victim and you can see this in her conduct and what she chooses to talk about and who to.
I don't think there is a named equivalent to him in the ranks of the enemy.
He pushes for an extremist stance and attack-oriented problem-solving. This is a man who sees offense as a tactic, not something to be considered/disregarded. He doesn't actually seem to care a whole lot for the goals of GamerGate, in keeping the few shreds of dignity and independence the Gamer community has, or it's identity, he cares about the demolition of the enemy, he cares about shutting them down.
The man is not entirely sound of mind and is certainly NOT what GamerGate needs. GG needs gamers and people, not soldiers and warriors.
Jim is a /pol/tard. This very /pol/tard is also the same person who started the GamerGate "movement."
He doesn't really "care" so to speak about Gamer Gate. He cares about eliminating strained leftist ideology and cultural marxism that has infected society. The existence of SJW's and Feminism is an extension, a bastard child of that.
He's right though, there is no room for moderation in sociocultural politics.
Apart of many other people, it's his bastard child. He's the one that started the five guys burgers and fries videos. He's been exposing SJW and cultural marxist BS way before the GamerGate movement was even created.
EVERYONE was referencing his videos on this website and across the internet when people kept asking "Who's Zoe Quinn and why should I care?" So don't even give me that ******** .
Sure, but Jim spearheaded the movement with the most facts and coverage out of anyone else at first. Quinnspiracy, his tag gave birth to GamerGate because of awareness of corrupt journalism.
Well of course, I'm not going to deny he was the herald but if we're gonna go to the roots, the first Zoe Quinn video was from MundaneMatt who's (over time) put just as much extensive thought and fact digging into his earlier Quinnspiracy/GG videos.
I just don't think it's fair to credit Jim /everything/.
The only real reason Jim's videos get more attention is really because of how demoralizing and distraught he is to the subject matter. He's more volatile, more angry, and more demonizing than anyone else on youtube talking about the matter. That's how he drew in a big crowd.
I never really did imply that he was the only one to start it.
I clearly said he gave birth to it. That kind of requires, literally more than one person. I am pretty sure Jim doesn't self impregnate. That being said, he's one of many father's to the issue.
He still isn't the father of the consumer revolt, the hundereds if not thousands of people who were as upset and pissed off and fed up as he was were alongside him
YOU quit the ********
Sorry you think the guy is a detriment to the movement. Have fun with that cultural marxist cock being rammed up your ass while you scream "moderation!" "let's be reasonable!" over and over again.
Sorry, but the only thing the red plague understands is force.
Enjoy your paranoia from behind the IR goggles, mental case
Maybe if you pray to your based god Jim he will descend from on high and bestow high-powered weaponry to defend you against the terrible tyranny of the reaosnable non-extremists
Try not to wet yourself when the spies come to poison your toilet paper
Oh ofc
I was secretly a spy for the revived USSR all along
I just microwaved your country's nuclear secrets out of your brain and am now transmitting them to putin as we speak
your doom is come and it is dirty and fed on turnips
Yeah, I like how you talk about rationale but then you just spew a bunch of ******** . You have no argument because you have NO clue what I am talking about.
Your first problem was you think Communism died with the Soviet Union.
It's been alive since Marx wrote his books, and the liberal progressivism of the early 1900's has caused more havoc and cultural shake up of our values and system than ever before.
As a result, things like SJW's sprout up from the roots.
I'm not going to engage with a deluded paranoid-schitzophrenic (melodramatic phrasing calm down) over the existence of soviet-era communism
On an InternetAristocrat post, involving the idea that he was not of entirely sound mind to continue engaging with GamerGate, given that he has little to no love for it's goals but feels free to decry it for not being crazy and chaotic enough for his tastes.
He, like Jim, is delusional to some degree or other, and of potentially dangerous mindset. You're ******* barmy if you think I've any interest in actually talking to these people, wasting my time with someone huddled in the corner barking about communism in this day and age.
Stop, right there. Same kind of logic is exactly what people like me joined gamergate to fight against. We want details and discussion, not arguments where you refer to someone as "The enemy." That is civilizations level politics, where you name a group that is your enemy, and you don't show any means to listen to them.
Yes, Sarkessian takes things too far, and has gone to the point of insanity with her apathetic, malicious, and sociopath comments.(NOT psychopathic). she has turned herself into a professional victim, I agree. But she is not some enemy that must be apposed on everything because she says it.
I agree with groups like Bennet who think that woman, may be more rare, but are also almost always treated with more respect, and her dansel in distress thing missed on the vast history of symbolism between males and females that lead to it, which actually makes sense and has very deep symbolic meaning.
But I didn't disagree because "she's the enemy", and neither should you.
The SJW's don't operate on any form of logic, they are entirely irrational people with no real understanding of the world at large. There is no discussion to be had with these people. In order for a discussion to take place, you have to have two rational people with views that are both valid in some way. The view of the SJW is invalid. It is merely solutionless cultural Marxism. It is not worthy of any sort validation by way of discussion nor is it even capable of any real rationale. It must be fought, Jim is right when he says we should of just attacked.
We fight a mindless enemy, failure to realize the reality of that causes us to take a more moderate approach. In essence, to validate their evil insane ideas.
I'm not stopping anywhere, but no. I don't call "them" the enemy because I believe it, I call them that because it's the simplest one-word way to bypass, or gloss over, a detail that would otherwise take up more words and maybe even some explaining. I often favour The Opposition but I felt like being melodramatic.
Sakeesian doesn't even take it too far on a genuine level, she is a complete fraud, a con artist, or a scammer. Whichever you like.
Speaking of shooting yourself in the foot, how about this video he just made? He's entitled to feel however he wants about it, but actually putting it out there like this is just a really stupid thing to do. Saying things like 'there's not much hope' and 'the battle's already lost' is just ridiculous and melodramatic in the extreme. Now the SJWs can point to this and say 'oh, that's one of the main proponents of Gamergate and he folded because he thinks they can't win' and ignorant people will believe it.
You don't win by giving up when things happen that you don't like, you keep at it long after you already think you've lost, just in case it can be salvaged. And even if you can't win in the end, you can at least give them a Pyrrhic victory and make the win not worth much more then defeat. If he really believed in the cause, that's what he would be doing. Bowing out when the going gets tough is the sign of a quitter, not a winner.
His figurative death is in the most a martyrs death...
"When does a man die? When he's shot through the head? When his heart stops beating?
No, a man dies when his name is forgotten."
Hail him for what he has done.
Let us pass his torch unto others, and then they will pass unto more. The truth must prevail.
I am not religious, but one verse is something we can all listen to, we need it now more than ever.
"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
Amazing how this guy starts. He talks like he's some big guy disappointed with a pretentious movement, and then ***** on the movement in general.
Gamergate is not a war against some group, it's not some opposite extreme to smite SJWs, we are not a third grade sandbox fight. Yet, he seems to want this kind of childish antagonism regardless of morals. I joined gamergate to help push for reviews with actual details and open honesty, not to be a stake in the ground to face some faceless little "war".
He also seems to misunderstand something. Messages don't become diluted because your not in an extreme. It changes, as all movements do. Any ideals made by humans is imperfect, and we live by changing our conclusion to the new ideas and perceptions we come across, just as GamerGate has. We aren't sides to a fence with blind rules, were all people sharing this wonderful experience called life.
It's very sad to hear him talk like a 3rd grade warmonger. And I'm only 1 minute in...
He's sitll going folks! now he seems to think that making money to fight for something important and provide for the people hurt as well as make money of off honest work, like you know, real investigative journalism, are jerks. Then claims it's bad for the people who -are- harassed, to call harassment? I'm surprised he himself didn't make ad-money on reporting all this. He did good work as a journalist and deserved it. Just because it's morally fulfilling doesn't mean it has to be charity.
Again, all hes rambling is we should be attacking. No, real war needs to have civility and morals, people need to be able to talk, or we end up with two sides that cannot co-exist with one another. this isn't some eternal battlefield, it's human conflict, one that won't end if all we do is attack and never give into anything.
This is why any conflict cannot be robotic, because you get logic like this that treats moral battles like a damn videogame.
this guy is an idiot. All he talked about is how this is a "fight", that needs a 'chaotic element". Is he saying we should only attack and destroy whatever we see as the enemy, and never care or listen to anyone but ourselves?
I'm done listening to this guy. It's like, he thinks we should label everything people like Sarkessian do, under every circumstance, and refuse to do it. Not make any money on actual journalism, or try to collect finances to help the people around us. We should fight a never-ending battle against someone because "they are the enemy", and we should refuse any kind of money for working on it.
so -no- you fallen aristocrat. YOU lost your values. You forgot that gamergate is about believing in honesty and ethics in journalism, and the ways to live our lives to bring that to light. You forget we aren't a battlefield, and wars need diplomacy. you are a child who abandoned your own morality to fight a battle.
He has done this before. Also he has said countless times that he would leave once he gained too much popularity. It was not right that so many people gave him **** for the lazy stream that he did in which clearly was meant to be a ******* fun live stream filled with anything goes since it wasn't GG related. I agree with most with what he says here. Although I still believe that GG can manage and succeed (IA aka Jim isn't a leader, he always claimed that hes not a leader and hes not the main focus, he only gave his opinion and ideas).
Hes right about people making money off GG, and im not including MundaneMatt or Sargon of Akkad since they made money before GG, those type of guys I'm not counting, I am specifically talking about all the new campaigns to raise money for things alike to BasedGamer, that **** is wrong and not needed and clearly it has nothing to do with what GG was originally was about.
And you can't even call **** out within GG since people are policing and anything will be called either toxic, shilling or even(maybe)harassing!
Come the **** on GG. Tell me Jim is wrong in these issues.
The entire point of GG to begin with was to take down Video game journos and to strike at their sites
Jim using words like taking an extreme and choosing a side in a sense is correct and its what we should be since so many people are on the fence about the issues and won't even research deep like others have.
Example is when Sargon was talking about Digra or academia in video games and explain this to Total biscuit in a stream, and the viewers where telling him to stop because it was red pill! Like wtf! this is all related since its all part of the ideologues of these SJW within our gaming media.
But instead of striking while the iron is hot, too many people IMO didn't do their ******* research and took the neutral stance and just kept sending emails which worked to take down gawker but left a void in taking it further to end it. I don't see a clear future anymore
and "social justice" is also a good thing in term. The idea that all can be equal and we should move on past superficial differences? thats not a bad thing. However, it cannot be a war, it simply has to be an attitude about how to live ones life. And some people mis-use it, to fund some politics so they can yell and throw a fit to get people to chance to be some perfect society, without understanding the very complex complications.
I'm not saying gamergate doesn't have pretention from some people, it does. However, what this man says is entirely insane. "you need to pick an extreme" no you dumb jerk, this kind of 3rd grade antagonism is what creates blinded religious fights to begin with.
If you feel that there isn't a direction, remember the ideals that drew you to it. And identify how to live those ideals yourself. Remember that anyone reporting for others needs to open about all relationships regardless of cost, and provide factual details work rather than blind conclusions.
i like IA and i think MondaneMatt is kind of a bitch but Jim does not make several videos a day well be lucky if we get 1 a month (or several months now) alot of people hate using twitter and need to watch daily Youtube bloggers to keep up
I knew Jim was gonna do this a bit ago. I've been watching his videos on and off for a long time now, god it feels like 3-4 years. Every time before he disappears I keep meaning to ask him for a steam or an email that I can keep in contact with simply because I genuinely like his personality. Seems like a guy I could drink with, a bro.
Ahhh, I sympathize with him entirely. Don't really see the appeal in sticking around now because of how co-opted this movement has become. If you even criticise one portion of GamerGate, you get a bunch of pricks coming down on you, even when you clearly see ******** being ******** . I've said it before and I'll say it again; Giving professional victims something to be a victim about is only going to end up with bad results. When GG'ers started colluding to "take Gawker down for good" I immediately criticized that, saying it would only harm the movement because that amount of press about how a "bully movement shut down an honest company" would spread like absolute wildfire. You are shooting yourself in the foot by trying that **** .
I was making videos during the quinnspiracy stuff but never really touched on GamerGate simply because everyone else was able to say it better. At this point, I really can't watch any videos about it.
theres a problem with hearing this and seeing this he couldve been blackmailed into this by someone who got his personal info but we will never know he was talking bout shutting down hischannelfor a long time but it coulve been egged on