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User avatar #44 - mikek (11/17/2013) [-]
how is it funny that you intentionally got some girl fired from her job because of a fb post?
#384 to #44 - CIS White Male (11/18/2013) [-]
It's funny because she was an asshole and deserved it.
If you were working in a restaurant and saw an employee spit in someones food, what would you do?
Also you could see where she worked and get her fired for threatning to spit on a customers face.
User avatar #116 to #44 - lamballert (11/17/2013) [-]
Hmm i don't know.. but isnt being a server/waitress your job? So when i get to a restaurant i expect to be served.. so why would i tip for that? imo the tip is already in the "food" that you order. Don't get me wrong i always tip after a nice meal and if the service was good.. but it's up for the customer to tip or not..

oh and it's not that they get underpaid..at least not where i live.
User avatar #165 to #116 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
***** I make 4.50 an hour as a server. Some places are even less (alabama is 2.something per hour)
And that ****** before taxes
User avatar #401 to #165 - lamballert (11/18/2013) [-]
You earn here at least the double of that/
User avatar #402 to #401 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (11/18/2013) [-]
where do you live?
tipping waiters is a US thing for the most part. It does produce a better class of waiters though, since it makes you earn your money instead of just giving minimal effort for a steady check
User avatar #403 to #402 - lamballert (11/18/2013) [-]
The Netherlands, Or i was getting paid well. depends on the restaurant i think? But we can't keep the tips, at least not where i worked.
User avatar #404 to #403 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (11/18/2013) [-]
in other countries servers get paid decently, so they don't need tips.
Servers in the US work pretty much only for tips. I might make 100 USD every two weeks off my wages, I couldn't even pay rent with that
User avatar #405 to #404 - lamballert (11/18/2013) [-]
Yeah, anyways i apologize if i may sounded rude, wasnt my intent. Its normal that we also get paid 150% on saturdays and 200% on sundays, but also again depends where you work. So i can imagine you cant pay rent cause that 4.50 usd isnt much..

and a server is a pretty tiring job.

User avatar #406 to #405 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (11/18/2013) [-]
tis true. We get paid the same amount whether it's a double on a weekend or a slow monday. Kinda sucks. Even if we close it's still the same. Fortunately I make good money off tips (generally between 60-100 a night) or I would sure as hell find another job
User avatar #49 to #44 - stevenrm **User deleted account** (11/17/2013) [-]
its good that she got fired, no waitress is suppose to do that.
User avatar #78 to #49 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
it's not like she's actually going to do it, she's just venting because she had some **** customers. If she actually spit in someone's food, she would be right to be fired, but not if she just exclaimed how pissed she was.

As a waiter, if you got good service and don't leave a reasonable tip, you can go **** yourself. And people do that quite often if you don't work at a high end restaurant.
Even if they're a ****** waiter, you should tip them something. You're basically stealing service if you don't. And getting good tips actually makes people serve better. If everyone tipped decently all the time, there would be very few bad waiters.
User avatar #134 to #78 - stevenrm **User deleted account** (11/17/2013) [-]
but every job that offers services doesn't get tips, why should a ***** waitress get a tip? just because she is a waitress? **** that, i used to repair consumer electronics for a job and sometimes id have to stay overtime with no pay to finish my work (i got paid the minimum wage in The United States which is $8.25 an hour) but i never got tips. And id have to deal with ****** people all day and sometimes people who i didn't even understand.
User avatar #162 to #134 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
the reason restaurants in the US do this is because it actually makes servers better at their jobs (if you get paid more, you'll work harder, and restaurants can be more selective in hiring) and they don't have to pay their staff as much. It works out better for everyone. Tipping forces waiters to maintain at least a decent amount of care in their work, if they just got paid minimum wage they would give zero ***** about their tables, and service would suck.
Maybe other service jobs should follow the same model? They probably don't because it'd take a lot of time and effort to change the wage statures to include all service jobs, not just food service. Plus, people usually pay monthly for things like tech support, or it's just included in whatever they bought. So it would be hard to set up, and wouldn't really benefit anyone very much.
User avatar #81 to #78 - charagrin (11/17/2013) [-]
""Even if they're a ****** waiter, you should tip them something"" And what if she WAS a ****** waitress, and they DID tip her something? In this case, 5 bucks.
User avatar #87 to #81 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
By something, I mean 10%. If you used their time, and it wasn't awful service, you should tip 10%. Otherwise you're just making them less inclined to give decent service, since they think they'll get bad tips anyway.
And how do you know it wasn't good service and they were just cheapskates? From personal experience, it's much more common to receive inadequate tips when the service was fine than the service cause the inadequacy.
User avatar #103 to #87 - charagrin (11/17/2013) [-]
I usually tip on a sliding scale from 25% to 15%, based on the bill and service, but I can admit I don't tip on occasion or at least, not to the waiter in question. A good example. I took my family(11 people) to The Governors here in Maine, and the waitress ignored our table for 20 minutes, then asked us what we wanted for drinks/apps, we told her, and she came back 5 minutes later to ask again, then she brought them out after they had sat on the bar thing in plain view for like 10 minutes, asked us what we wanted to order, and we never saw her again. Another waitress saw us sitting without help, came over, and more than made up for the worthless waitress. Brought us food, drinks, everything quickly, and was very polite. When we left, I gave her 30 bucks on a 150 dollar bill, and told her not to tell her manager or the other waitress(they pool tips unfortunately). But regardless, sometimes a specific server does not DESERVE a tip because they DID NOT DO THEIR JOB. You work, you get paid. That's how I feel it should work.
User avatar #111 to #103 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
well I think that falls under the "awful service" category, bordering "no service". I've never worked somewhere with a tip pool, but I feel like that promotes bad service such as that. Where I work, we have a tip share that we pay to the hostesses and expos, but we work for our own tips. I generally give decent to great service, and I still get people who tip very little or don't at all. Which is kinda why I'm assuming she wasn't completely awful. She may have been, who knows.
Either way, I don't think a facebook status is a fire-able offense, but thats just my opinion.
User avatar #113 to #111 - charagrin (11/17/2013) [-]
I am not dissagreeing with your points as whole, just that I feel it should be a firable offense. Granted, she was venting, but there is a reason most work contracts have a place where you agree not to give bad press/status/news/etc to the public. She as a server threatened to spit in food, which would not only give the business bad press but would be a health code violation too. Maybe she shouldn't have been fired, but something should have happened discipline wise. And maybe it wasn't her first offense, we just don't know.
User avatar #115 to #113 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
She may have had other issues at work, that's true. I don't think a boss would fire a good employee over a fb status. But honestly, I've never seen nor heard of a person who actually spit in someone's food at work. Maybe I just don't associate with those types, but I even worked in a mcdonalds at one point and I've never seen it.
User avatar #52 to #49 - mikek (11/17/2013) [-]
She was just venting about it..a 5 dollar tip for a 138 bill is a **** tip and theres no reason to get her fired over that
User avatar #58 to #52 - kinginyellow (11/17/2013) [-]
No she wasn't venting. Venting would be telling people not to give crappy tips. She stated that she would spit in the food, and joking or not, her saying that could make any customer feel uncomfortable with her serving food. Who's to say she wouldn't? There's plenty reason to get fired over saying you'd commit a health violation.
User avatar #54 to #52 - stevenrm **User deleted account** (11/17/2013) [-]
yea nothing wrong with venting but saying you're going to spit in peoples food is past the line, i don't know about you but i don't like spit in my food just because i didn't give a good enough tip
User avatar #62 to #54 - mikek (11/17/2013) [-]
Doesnt matter she didnt actually do it...and its not like the person that got her fired was the customer it was just some random guy if she had done it then id get it but she was just pissed cuz thats like a 2 percent tip and waitresses rely on tips for money and youre gonna get her fired over that, im not saying what she did was smart but thats ****** up to get her fired because of a facebook post
#73 to #62 - stevenrm **User deleted account** (11/17/2013) [-]
Honestly if they are a ****** waiter i wouldn't tip them and she doesn't deserve a tip even its 2%. I only tip them because if its a restaurant i go to a lot i want them to know i'm happy to tip but if i had the chance not to i wouldn't tip (If this made any sense).

Only picture i could think of when making this comment
User avatar #128 to #73 - arsyro (11/17/2013) [-]
sauce on the movie is resevoir dogs
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