Palpatine told anakin that he killed her when he choked her out
Then she went on later to have the kids
Then she died (I beleieve it was just from being in labour and some mothers die)
He says "NO, I felt her, SHE WAS ALIVE" on choking her out. So I think, that he believes that she died there
And to be fair we never see the empire doing a lot of bad. They blew up Alderaan but that was because they were looking for the rebels. They seem to bring order to the galaxy. And they're wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cooler than the rebels.
That's your justification for blowing up an entire planet and killing 10s of millions of innocent civilians? Because they were looking for a tiny insurrectionist faction and because they're coooool?
I'm begging you man, never be put in a place of power. If you were in a police chief in New York, you'd request that the city be nuked without evac, so you could catch one serial killer on the loose.
Dude ****** calm yer barn. For a start they never actually blew up alderaan. It's fictional. For a second, feck off. For a third, I'm not saying that they should blow up alderaan (I can't believe I'm debating the ethics of a fictional groups fictional actions) but that they did it for a specific reason that might seem beneficial to them if they want to defeat the rebels, who totally blew up 2 death stars in the future.
>I can't believe I'm debating the ethics of a fictional groups fictional actions
Well I can't believe you bothered to defend a fictional group's fictional actions in the first place then. Arguing about fiction is one of the most common practices on the internet. Sure you could just write it off as "Well none of this ever actually happened, why do we care?" Well you're right, in reality, no one takes it that seriously. I've been in heated arguments with my friends about concepts in Fallout 4, but it's not like we're cutting off friendships or anything because we're not arguing about anything real, but that's the fun of it. That said, even if we did argue about something real, we're mature enough to get over it quickly.
We argue about fictional stuff is because when we experienced it the first time, we all subconsciously reacted and judged people and groups in different ways. While subconsciously thinking "What would I do in this situation? How would I do it differently?". The content is fiction, but the thought processes we have are real for everyone. So when someone shows a different opinion to how they reacted to the content, it reflects on decisions they might make in real life. So we're not necessarily arguing over something that never happened, as much as we're using content as a basis to have a completely different argument about morality, or whatever topic is relevant.
If that doesn't work for you, maybe being a nerd isn't for you. Some people like to roleplay the bad guy and side with, well the bad guy, in this case the Empire. But if people can do that, I can roleplay as well and tell you you're a complete psychopath.
And finally, oh god forbid the rebels destroy the 2 death stars. The ******* gargantuan devices that existed for the sole purpose of blowing up planets full of hundreds of millions of innocent people at once. Wow rebels are dicks.
I can read you ******* mongoloid, I don't want to read 4 ******* paragraphs on a topic which is completely redundant, and really not something I care about at half past midnight on a ******* wednesday.
you're a cock, and I only bothered to reply because you started saying 'i would nuke NYC to get rid of crime" There's a difference between understanding why someone would do something, as opposed to actually thinking it's a good idea. WHICH DOESN'T EVEN ******* MATTER, BECAUSE STAR WARS NEVER HAPPENED
In conclusion, **** off, kill yerself, get a hobby that doesn't involve bombarding someone with messages calling them a psychopath over a comment about a fake universe
His outfits kind of symbolize his progress throughout the trilogy. He starts his quest a naive young boy and finishes it a wiser, more capable, more mature man.
i dont feel bad for wanting that. being a sith lord with a bunch of badass storm troopers, and walkers, and lighting hands, it would just trump anything a jedi could ever be.
Your group project is not under the impression that you can kill them with a laser sword on a whim. They are also not paying you taxes, following your orders to the letter, and nobody outside of the group cares you're the group leader.
Sure enough but if I don't do **** then either someone else will start leading the project or it will more or less go to **** .
In the same way that even if everybody is happily paying taxes, afraid you'll cut of there heads and following you're orders to the letter you'll still have to do **** because if you don't either you're universe will go to **** or somewhen will realise you're to lazy to cut of there heads and will take over
Why? You'd literally be following in the footsteps of your father, you're stop being terrorist scum, and you might learn what the opposite side is like. And if you didn't like it, you could tear it apart from the inside.
Also yeah. Space poon. Every species. Every race. Every day.
But if he did that, he would never have been able to assist in the rescue of Han Solo on Tatooine.
People would have assumed Luke betrayed everyone and initiate the operation without him, and considering what happened when he WAS there, the operation likely would have failed and everyone would have been killed or captured. Luke's presence was important there, and he was able to stop the Empire regardless.
Like, for real though, I just watched episode 4, original version and all, and they repeatedly call it a religion. So it's not some kind of magical force that they can manipulate or whatever I GUESS.
The whole thing that separates Jedi and Sith is their philosophy and belief system. Jedi (mostly) believe that the Force is used via self control and discipline while the Sith believe it is controlled using passion.
Likewise, some groups believe the Force is a conscious entity that pervades all things, others believe it is a material prospect such as gravity, others believe it is a 'will' of the universe, so on, so fourth.
Though you don't see anyone praying, it is quite certainly a religion, and has an entire philosophy and doctrine behind it depending on which group you subscribe to.
There are some people who do not 'believe' in the force in that they either think it is smoke and mirrors or some type of genetic disposition rather than a mystical one (which it is in the Extended Universe, though the Prequels give it a scientific basis). Other races still are not effected by the Force and cannot utilize it, while some are only immune to certain powers while vulnerable to other ones.
The entire idea and concept behind The Force is incredibly complex and spiritual in nature, and ultimately the idea of what it is and how it works is left up to the person wielding or observing it.
Don't quote me here on this, but I'm pretty sure that's just the sort of skepticism that is being demonstrated because during the timeline of 4,5,6 there were very few jedi/sith around. Obi-wan, Yoda, Luke was trained but the first two were hiding/presumed dead. Emperor and Darth Vader were the only two prominent figures and they likely had no real need to demonstrate the force in front of their employees.
Not to mention that just because it's termed a "religion", doesn't suddenly exclude the possibility of there being a "magical force they can manipulate", as you suggest.
But there shoudl have still been a lot of people that have at least heard of it.
I presume the Jedi council was quite famous and for example Admiral Motti (the one with the lack of faith) must have been a young man by the time of the executon of Order 66 and the downfall of the Jedi.
The original trilogy plays only about 19 years after the end of the new one so lots of people must still remember.
You don't know that Vader was telling the truth though it's perfectly reasonable to think that the Emperor told Vader to say that just so they could use Luke to betray/cripple/destroy the rebels then just kill Luke like what they tried to do in force unleashed.
Remember it's not till the very very very end that Vader is supposed to of converted back from Sith to Jedi up until then he's basically completely Palpatines butler.
you guys are forgetting that in the comics after episode 6 it was revealed by clone palpatine that his plan all along was to switch bodies to posses his powers when he began to weaken
You seem to have forgotten that Anakin literally told Padme that he was more powerful than the Emperor and could overthrow him so that they could rule the galaxy together the last time he saw her.
It has been shown multiple times that Sith's will seek more and more power and Anakin/Vader is no exception. He was to a degree probably broken from losing Padme (and all his horrible injuries), which might have made him the butler you refer to. Sadly none of the EU books are actually about Vader during the beginning times of the Empire, so nothing we can refer to But he has hesitated in Episode 4 to kill Luke so it is obvious he cares about him to a degree. I think it is perfectly possible he was being serious
ehhhh, depends.
For rule of the two that was certainly the case.
Before that it obviously wasn't since then you could never get more than 2 sith. It's been a while since I read the book about Darth Bane, there probably is more detail on it in there, but w/e
For the One Sith I believe it wasn't that way for all of the Sith,but some, like the ones Darth Krayt chooses as his Hands it is? We definitely see Darth Talon killing her Master
In the new Vader comic, which takes place between episode IV and V, he is going behind Palpatine's back trying to learn who the rebel boy with Kenobi was. He even goes as far as framing imperial officers that were sent to watch over him and hires someone to rob a empire credit transport to pay an informant. It also shows that palpantine would settle for any right-hand-man stronger than him to serve as a replacement.
Well if you think about it, they'd be stupid not to do it. After all, he can kill people just by willing it. He could decimate a planet with a single finger Until the engineers made a gigantic ******* hole in it.
Also why the **** would you go through the trench? Is it ever explained why you can't just go in from above?
They did it to avoid fire from the ship, since most of the turrets were located in a higher plane and could not fire into the "trench" as you call it (without causing damage to the ship at least, most couldn't even get a good angle on it).
There was a a tactical reason for it. It's also less likely to be taken out by hostile craft, since they can only come at you from certain angles (or even see you for that matter). Less maneuverability yes, but less angles to be engaged from and less crafts that can effectively give chase). It was a calculated risk if you will.
Ah. My only question now is why did they make the exhaust vent so huge? They must've known someone would've pulled something eventually, especially after they found out Luke Skywalker was kicking ass.
At least put some chain-link fences down there or something.
The fences thing would be incredibly important to put in not only for assault defense, but also so that no debris in space could cause damage to the ships internal structure/core.
That's all they needed really, particularly reinforced bars would've been superb. Multi faceting them (a few layers a few feet apart in different patterns) would all but neutralize any chance of something like a plasma bomb getting inside without detonating first.
As for the size well, for a ship of that magnitude they would need large exhausts. I feel there were more, or rather had to be more, for that ship to function properly. Unless it had tanks inside to hold exhaust temporarily for processing and dispersal.
TLDR the architects did a terrible job with the star, 5/10.
If I were the architect, I'd put thousands or more man-sized vents. No ships get in, and you still get rid of heat. Have the vents curve at 90 degree angles often, too. Perhaps add some blast doors. Anything to keep the obvious from happening.
I love Star Wars, but the Death Star was retarded in so many ways if you think about it.
thats becasue that was actually in the movie albiet it is a type of heavy blaster rifle. you can see the sandtroopers on tatooine holding them. Many of the props and blasters in starwars are repurposed surplus from world war 2.
Well, the empire did a great job rounding up all knowledge of the force and destroying it. They then set about the task of seeding certain information and half truths about the force to make their government look more legitimate. One of the half truths was that force users had died out centuries ago.
Well, considering the strength of Palpatine, I wouldn't be surprised if he had been able to defeat them both. In the fight scene in episode VI he is killed by Darth Vader because he is taken by surprise.
Like some one else said, a sith and a jedi are different than strictly a user of the dark side or light side. Its a belief system and a way of life which would definitely be seen as a religion.