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#2 - pebar (05/13/2015) [+] (39 replies)

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butthurt leftist

why are there so many David Cameron posts lately?

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#9 to #2 - nakedclothes (05/14/2015) [-]

They should.....conserve their opinions for later

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#19 to #2 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

probably because Cameron is taking away our human rights, introducing the snooper system, privatising the NHS etc etc ykno all that good stuff.

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#30 to #19 - anon (05/14/2015) [-]

human rights?
you don't have a right to other peoples money

**** off commie scum

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#31 to #30 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

And the government doesn't have the right to mine. **** off you capitalist common pepe **** . It's also not communist it's socialist.

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#33 to #31 - anon (05/14/2015) [-]

Theres a thin line between the two, you should look into the real story behind the tradition of thanksgiving.

how about we make food free too. And shelter. And water. And electricity. And gas.

you need all those things to live right? well if healthcare is insane to charge for, those are insane to charge for as well...

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#43 to #33 - anon (05/14/2015) [-]

Except that's what welfare and housing programs are for. It isn't like the doctors and hospital don't get paid for their services when there is a "free healthcare" system.

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#39 to #33 - anon (05/14/2015) [-]

well I guess I shouldn't say the "real" story, I would call it a rumor at best.

certain legends of the origin of thanks giving is the transition from socialist America, to capitalist America.

originally certain towns basically had a ware house of sorts where they kept every ones food and supplies. You made what you needed to live yourself, then the rest you would put into the warehouse for others who needed it. Simple effective concept right? Well people started noticing others who just took from the ware house, with out working at all, and said "hey, if he doesn't have to work for his food, I wont either." so people stopped planting crops and just withdrew what they needed to barely live from the warehouse. In time, the ware house ran empty, few crops were planted, and people were starving to death. The ones who DID plant the crops, said hey, I need these to live because nothing is in the ware house, BUT I will sell them to you for other goods. That idea became the new system and had so much great effect that they held a feast with their new found wealth.

I'll be honest I don't have a source for this but I found it to be an inspirational story.

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#36 to #33 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

Not really, compared to the annual cost of health insurance those are all pretty cheap. How about you grow the **** up and realise that the National healthcare system is a great system, because it's not just other people "paying" for you, it's you "paying" for other people. It's not even like anyone is paying, it's just a small amount of tax. Now shut up common pepe noone likes you.

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#40 to #36 - anon (05/14/2015) [-]

sorry #33 and #39 are me, a different anon, im sorry that you have to be so hostle :/

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#60 to #19 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

Removing EU human rights act and replacing it with a UK bill of rights =/= "taking away our human rights".

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#62 to #60 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

The bill they are replacing it with means that the terminally ill and the severely disabled will be forced to work. The tories will kill this country.

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#64 to #62 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

No one's "forced to work", they just shouldn't expect the government to foot the bill when they can't financially support themselves, this country isn't a charity.

As far as the NHS goes, we wouldn't need to privitise it if people would just stop being so ******* fat, or smoking, or binge drinking. The NHS spends so much on preventable illness (obesity, cancer from smoking, cirrhosis, other problems related to drug abuse), and it could be easily saved if people took better care of themselves. There's only so much you can blame on the government before you have to start taking responsibility.

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#66 to #64 - ocdrawer (05/14/2015) [-]

And what of people with chronic illness like mine? I have cysticfibrosis. If the healthcare becomes privatised then that's it, it's game over for me, all these years working to stay alive and working out wouldn't been for naught.

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#67 to #66 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

Partial privitisation =/= you immediately have to pay 'murica tier money for healthcare, that's leftist propaganda, it just means that the NHS is going to have a greater means of sustaining itself, because in its current state it cannot.

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#72 to #67 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

I could say the same to you with right wing propaganda. Cause I don't believe that any of that is true at all. Cameron and the tories are too greedy for any of that to be true.

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#73 to #72 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

Of course it's true, do you have any idea how much the binge drinking epidemic, or the obesity epidemic is costing the NHS? These problems you hear about all the time really take a toll on the NHS budget, and mean that there's less money to go towards people who really need it.

In a country of socialised healthcare, not looking after yourself is a very selfish thing to do.

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#83 to #73 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

So how about they increase the budget for NHS instead of increasing their own pay? hmm? oh and how about they actually start taxing the large companies instead of increasing the tax of the people who are earning a pittance? hmm?
You sicken me for supporting these fascists, all they do is take from the poor and give to the rich.

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#86 to #83 - anon (05/14/2015) [-]

companies are taxed for employing you, taxed on income and properties, you are taxed for working, on property, income and most purchases, inflation and low interest rates are basically a tax on bank accounts.

maybe the reason wages are so bad is because taxes make employment less profitable than it would be.

ever taken an econ class? cause it sounds like you haven't

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#85 to #83 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

So big businesses have to pay for the price of this country's health problems? God forbid people take care of themselves so that the NHS can stop being the laughing stock of socialised healthcare. Stop being delusional, this country is not a charity, and healthcare costs money.

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#87 to #85 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

If they want to establish themselves in our country then they should have to pay the taxes instead of ykno, not paying anything because our government are sucking their dicks. The money that the country would get from the tax would be so beneficial, but all you seem to care about is how people cant look after themselves, people can't look after themselves because of this government, they can't afford to because this government steal almost every penny of what they earn.

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#92 to #87 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

Do you know what happens when you increase tax on businesses? They increase their prices to compensate. Also pls listen to the anon.

Stop convincing yourself that "gubment gon' take everything!!!". Lefty parties are in favour of increased taxation to pay for social projects, so they'd be the ones out to steal "almost every penny of what you earn". The right wing - and indeed, the conservatives - are in favour of reducing taxes so that people can earn their own way instead of relying on social welfare.

Furthermore, what sounds like a better plan for saving the NHS? People paying more tax, or people eating less food?

And don't use the word "fascist" to describe anything that disagrees with socialism. Fascism is authoritarian nationalism, and when you use it out of correct context you instantly make yourself seem like you don't know anything about what you're talking about.

Nice red thumbs too, they really add to your argument.

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#94 to #92 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

Yes, so ykno, the banks, google, apple, microsoft, starbucks. Sure these tax dodging scum could increases their prices, but that just goes to show that they're already overpricing us. The government are going to take everything and pretty soon they're going to know everything about me, about you and everyone else in britain more than we know ourselves.
A good way to save the NHS would be to ykno, tax these companies that are dodging tax and all of the other rich people dodging tax, also you say that the tories are all for changing the tax rates, well how come they reducing the amount of tax that rich people pay and increasing it for poor people, of and dont forget bedroom tax, cause that's a great idea, so many people who are already struggling are going to be able to afford that.

And how aren't they fascist? They want to leave the EU and effectively close the borders, therefore removing anyone who doesn't have a british passport from their jobs as they would be working here illegally then, where they worked harder for those jobs than their british counter parts ever did.

Enjoy your fascist regime, you won't be enjoying it for long.

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#95 to #94 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

>"I've ****** my life up but I don't want to take responsibility, I know, I'll blame successful people!"

Yea **** off, you want to reduce tax on the average person whilst maintaining an NHS that cannot support itself because of the amount of money it spends on treating people that shouldn't be there, and you expect corporations to foot the bill for it even though there's no real reason for them to be doing so.

Right winged =/= fascist. That's like me calling anything remotely socialist "communist". Jesus Christ, your reading comprehension is terrible, I hope the conservatives' education plan is good, for your sake.

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#98 to #95 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

My life is fine I make 50k per annum I'm pretty well off as you can be for a 22 yr old who never went to uni.

>Went to uni and can't get a job better blame the better educated foreigners who were clearly better to employ over me.

Shut up you UKIP fascist. Why should the poor pay more tax than the rich? Just because the rich put money into cameron's pocket? Pfft don't give me that ******** , The NHS wasn't founded so that it could support itself it's so that the taxpayers of Britain could support it and then serve them in return and yes the big companies should pay tax, they are in OUR country.

You are a fascist, being elitist towards people who arent of your own country is fascist, My comprehension is fine, it's the internet and I shouldn't have to waste it of inbreds like yourself.

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#99 to #98 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

Jesus Christ that's a lot of defensive drivel. I support the conservative party, not ukip, as much as I'd have liked Nigel to get his seat. Everything you say is clouded by fear and prejudice. Not once have I mentioned immigration. If you've really gone to university, maybe we do need a full educational reform.

Learn what fascism means, please.

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#101 to #99 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

Hmm, well you seemed to support Farrage in more of your toxic posts, so one could only assume. The conservatives essentially have the same foreign policies as UKIP so yeah the immigration spect is kind of part of what you are standing for.

please off yourself, this country is better off without you.

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#102 to #101 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

I've always believed that an immigrant who works hard and contributes to the economy has a greater right to be here than a 'native' who sponges the welfare state, so please don't fabricate opposing arguments or create your own definitions for words, it makes you sound like a fool.

You'd also do well not to generalise, and instead of absorbing all the labour propaganda you can, maybe you should read a party's manifesto, instead of assuming every party right of labour is the BNP.

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#71 to #67 - ocdrawer (05/14/2015) [-]

I honestly don't look much into this stuff past first glance, what would it entail for people like me? Because in regards to medication, mine is expensive, i'm well aware of it and I've never missed any of it, I work out hard to stay fit and I always listen to my doctors, even when it includes stuff I don't enjoy, I won't complain.

It's actually quite terrifying on my end because of the nature of my illness if I stop getting medication, I'm as good as dead. If I were to give a light example, my creon, digestive enzymes in tablet form, I cannot digest food without them and I'd quickly become malnourished along with my lungs clogging up with mucus from lack of nublisers.

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#74 to #71 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

Your medication would end up costing more, but it's not as if NHS privatisation is a new thing anyway, it's already been partially privatised, conservatives are just pushing for more.

As I said, none of this would need to happen if people took better care of themselves. Take a look at other EU countries with socialised healthcare. They function better because their people actually look after themselves, and they don't have problems we have, such as our obesity percentages.

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#77 to #74 - ocdrawer (05/14/2015) [-]

If my medication ends up costing more for me, it's game over. Although i'm sure a lot of people would be glad about the sickies dropping off early. At least with the current attitude i'm seeing off of my fellow countrymen

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#80 to #77 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

Of course, privatisation could also lead to cheaper, better quality healthcare as a result of direct competition and the fact that healthcare companies would have a market to operate in, similar to how corporations seek to provide cheaper, better quality products than their competitors.

Who knows.

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#81 to #80 - ocdrawer (05/14/2015) [-]

I dunno man, when you're born into this **** and there's no cure, situations like these are scary ones. I ain't one to moan but when you spend your life surviving only to have a political change put your life at risk, it don't make you feel good. Maybe it'll go well and I can keep on trucking, maybe it won't.

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#5 to #2 - Hawke (05/14/2015) [-]

**** CAMERON CAN'T BARRAGE THE FARAGE

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#7 to #2 - greyblade (05/14/2015) [-]

probably because of the conservative majority in the recent elections?

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#59 to #2 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

I like and support the conservatives, but I love these.

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#69 to #59 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

Do you like The United Kingdom Independence Party?

Their early campaigns were a little too "new wave" for my tastes, but during the general electron in 2010, I think they really came into their own, politically and socially. The whole party has a clear, crisp message, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives their debates a big boost. He's been compared to Nick Griffen, but I think Nigel has a far more libertarian, socially aware list of policies.

In 2014, Nigel released this, Douglas Carswell, their most accomplished MP. I think their undisputed result is "Clacton Constituency", an outcome so groundbreaking, most people probably don't look at the election results. But they should, because it's not just about the four million votes, and the first-past-the-post system limiting them to one seat, it's also a national statement about the UK's attitudes to immigration.

Hey National Health Service,

TRY GETTING A HOSPITAL BED NOW, YOU ******* STUPID LEFTISTS, YOU ******* LEFTISTS

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#1 - tapeboy (05/13/2015) [-]

america.

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#13 to #1 - nalapsi ONLINE (05/14/2015) [-]

England actually

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#44 to #13 - anon (05/14/2015) [-]

uk

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#14 to #13 - tapeboy (05/14/2015) [-]

sweet USA USA USA!

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#21 - sanitarysan (05/14/2015) [-]

this image came to mind

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#35 to #21 - gentledragon ONLINE (05/14/2015) [-]

It's funny but her face makes me regret finding it funny D:

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#37 to #35 - sanitarysan (05/14/2015) [-]

that's how you should feel

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#20 - shacmaster (05/14/2015) [-]

THIS WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING IF YOU VOTED FOR ARE FARRAGE

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#49 to #20 - grogovic (05/14/2015) [-]

Music name?

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#54 to #49 - armageddoncloud (05/14/2015) [-]

Nightwish - Wishmaster

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#56 to #54 - grogovic (05/14/2015) [-]

Thanks.

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#55 to #54 - grogovic (05/14/2015) [-]

I was expecting Darude Sandstorm.

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#79 to #20 - hcp (05/14/2015) [-]

top kek. I hope they hire you to make their ads for the next election.

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#89 to #20 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

Yeah it would be worse if that twat was in charge

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#53 to #20 - anon (05/14/2015) [-]

No, we'd all be doing the goosestep along with the other fascists instead...

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#63 to #53 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

Right winged libertarianism =/= fascism

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#46 to #20 - listerthepessimist (05/14/2015) [-]

and where the **** am I supposed to get a pizza after 9 o'clock?

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#47 to #46 - shacmaster (05/14/2015) [-]

ask politely

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#50 to #47 - listerthepessimist (05/14/2015) [-]

where might one acquire a ******* pizza after the 9th hour of noon?

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#51 to #50 - shacmaster (05/14/2015) [-]

Your own house

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#52 to #51 - listerthepessimist (05/14/2015) [-]

that sounds like effort to me.

being english, and therefore lazy as **** , I want a cypriot to bring me one

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#22 to #20 - anon (05/14/2015) [-]

You're right we'd be in an awful state too but with no immigrants.

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#17 - anon (05/14/2015) [-]

Americans are just jealous that they face complete financial ruin every time they fall ill.

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#32 to #17 - anon (05/14/2015) [-]

how about we make food free too. And shelter. And water. And electricity. And gas.

you need all those things to live right? well if healthcare is insane to charge for, those are insane to charge for as well...

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#65 to #32 - rockamekishiko (05/14/2015) [-]

you're retarded

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#70 to #32 - dreygur (05/14/2015) [-]

"I'll debunk your system by making an extreme example, because that totally works."

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#24 to #17 - lean (05/14/2015) [-]

12% of....

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#18 to #17 - itskennyandjosh ONLINE (05/14/2015) [-]

I've used this so much on you little *****

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#3 - quelaagislove (05/13/2015) [-]

Nah its more stay get comfy the tax payer will help you...

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#23 to #3 - discobleach ONLINE (05/14/2015) [-]

you have no idea who that is, do you?

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#25 to #23 - quelaagislove (05/14/2015) [-]

Nope...and i dont much care either...

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#26 to #25 - discobleach ONLINE (05/14/2015) [-]

figures.

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#27 to #26 - quelaagislove (05/14/2015) [-]

Yepper pepper...

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#29 to #3 - biscuitsunited (05/14/2015) [-]

Thats David Cameron, the new Prime minister of the U.K, His new policy? Sell the NHS, he's working on it.

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#34 to #29 - quelaagislove (05/14/2015) [-]

That would be why i don't know who he is...i hardly follow politics in my own country...unless god damn fggts are trying to steal my guns...

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#38 to #34 - biscuitsunited (05/14/2015) [-]

Yeah, this caused riots in London, Why most places voted for him is beyond me, over 10 million votes, 10 million.

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#41 to #38 - quelaagislove (05/14/2015) [-]

Just how Bush magically won his election against Gore....I don't know how it works in the UK but the electoral college really pisses me off...

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#42 to #41 - biscuitsunited (05/14/2015) [-]

It's similar, but somehow more irritating, and with more parties.
It's majority party of a set area gets a Seat, there are 650ish seats overall.
The UKIP party got over 3 and a half million votes, 3rd highest out of all the parties; and only got 1 seat since they came a close second all across the country.
As much as I dislike the UKIP's radical policies, I think that they got no representation is extremely undemocratic.

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#4 to #3 - grimfuck (05/13/2015) [-]

If your not going to die, they don't have to keep you there. of course assuming were talking about my amazing country that is the only one that matters so why would we not be talking about it

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#6 to #4 - kibbleking (05/14/2015) [-]

you're*

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#8 to #6 - grimfuck (05/14/2015) [-]

Well arent you a special little ****** .

here's a cookie. next one like that you get a gold star!!

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#84 to #8 - kibbleking (05/14/2015) [-]

aren't*

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#100 to #84 - grimfuck (05/14/2015) [-]

"I believe you meant to use an apostrophe in your contraction of 'are not.'"***

Take that mother ****** !

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#57 - lollar (05/14/2015) [-]

**lollar used "*roll picture*"**
**lollar rolled image**Guys we can settle this in peace...I'll start by saying that free health care system is the best thing Europe union has provided.

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#68 to #57 - dreygur (05/14/2015) [-]

It's not free. You still pay for it by paying more taxes, although it's essentially free for those who don't pay taxes If you're too young, don't have a job or your wage is too low. . I personally prefer it myself since it means I won't be in deep **** if I'm poor and happen to injure myself.

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#75 - assdoreponyfucker (05/14/2015) [-]

ladies in america who can't afford to birth their child, the child is held in the hospital until the mom can pay a fee

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#76 to #75 - anon (05/14/2015) [-]

That isn't true at all

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#78 to #76 - assdoreponyfucker (05/14/2015) [-]

in some states they shove the baby back up the vagina until she hands the hospital the money

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#103 to #78 - inquisition (05/14/2015) [-]

Thanks, Ken M

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#82 to #78 - whataphreek (05/14/2015) [-]

I nearly pissed myself laughing

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#10 - nanako ONLINE (05/14/2015) [-]

**** paying for healthcare

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#58 - intrepidy (05/14/2015) [-]

The NHS will always be free at the point of sale. The whining is unnecessary with most of it being Labour propaganda. People forget Cameron had his disabled son treated on the NHS before he died.

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#88 to #58 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

Stop trying to make us sympathize with the bastard.

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#90 to #88 - intrepidy (05/14/2015) [-]

He can still be a bastard, just not for "destroying the NHS"

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#91 to #90 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

That doesn't make sense, seeming as he is the one destroying it. Just cause he uses it doesn't mean he should be excluded for being a bastard for destroying it.

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#93 to #91 - intrepidy (05/14/2015) [-]

What part has been destroyed? Since when are you being charged to use it? The reason the NHS has no money is because its the 4th/5h biggest employer on the planet and it has a **** ton of old people draining its resources because nobody wants to look after them. My local hospital has many beds locked up by families refusing to collect their relatives.

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#96 to #93 - noonelikesdan (05/14/2015) [-]

None of it yet, well we are always being charged to use it, but what we pay in tax wouldn't cost as much as health insurance. The reason the NHS has no money is cause the tories keep cutting it's funds.

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#97 to #96 - intrepidy (05/14/2015) [-]

The tories havent actually cut the NHS budget at all. They increased it actually, but not by alot so its a only a small real terms increase. Problem is the NHS needs 30BILLION pounds by 2020 to be at a good level.

Considering the NHS is rated to be the second best health care system I think its doing okay with its high satisfaction rate too. www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/verdict/how-much-money-does-nhs-need
www.bbc.co.uk/news/10375877
www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/bsa-survey-2013/satisfaction-nhs-overall

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