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User avatar #10 - teoferrazzi (10/13/2013) [-]
>american jokes about germany's discrimination
>black segregation was a more recent affair than the holocaust
**** you
User avatar #59 to #10 - nigeltheoutlaw (10/13/2013) [-]
If we committed genocide against blacks then maybe you would have a point, but we didn't.
User avatar #35 to #10 - oceanfrank ONLINE (10/13/2013) [-]
except we didnt kill 6 million of them you *******
User avatar #229 to #35 - Tazdingo (10/14/2013) [-]
Hitler didn't kill 6 million blacks either.
User avatar #68 to #35 - teoferrazzi (10/13/2013) [-]
if you're really going to say that slavery as a whole wasn't as bad as the holocaust, then you need to go back to whatever high school you dropped out of
#92 to #68 - teranin ONLINE (10/14/2013) [-]
you... are aware that you didn't say slavery in your original comment, right?  Segregation is a 						*******					 different than enslavement.  Both a terrible, sure, but segregation isn't even remotely 						*******					 close to as bad as a massacre on the scale of genetically eliminating an entire group of people.  You should probably stop sniffing your own farts in your prius, it's giving you brain damage.
you... are aware that you didn't say slavery in your original comment, right? Segregation is a ******* different than enslavement. Both a terrible, sure, but segregation isn't even remotely ******* close to as bad as a massacre on the scale of genetically eliminating an entire group of people. You should probably stop sniffing your own farts in your prius, it's giving you brain damage.
User avatar #91 to #68 - oceanfrank ONLINE (10/14/2013) [-]
It wasn't.... they got to live their lives and raise families that eventually got equal treatment. The jews in the concentration camps were killed for the sole purpose of eradication and ethnic cleansing.
#50 to #35 - byzantinian (10/13/2013) [-]
America didn't kill people in concentration camps,but it did and still does through airstrikes and even through funding terrorist groups in syria,formerly in libya,afghanistan,etc. and everyone knows that,lets not talk about that one time when us airforce killed 2500+ civilians in serbia in 1999 or the time when in gulf war it dropped a thermal bomb on an orphenage in iraq,burning 480+ people to death,yeah,that's democracy,so **** you both.
#37 to #35 - anonymous (10/13/2013) [-]
Neither of you killed anybody! Let's not argue about who's ancestor did what. we are all individuals children.
YOU ARE NOT YOUR COUNTRY.
#172 to #37 - golbot (10/14/2013) [-]
I killed a black jew once...
User avatar #61 to #37 - teoferrazzi (10/13/2013) [-]
I'm italian. just because I got riled up by american stupidity doesn't mean I have to be german.
all we did was gas a few ethiopians but who hasn't
User avatar #104 to #61 - elcreepo (10/14/2013) [-]
American stupidity? Get off your pompous ass and realize that what America did is in no way the same as what Germany did.

Also, desegregation ended only 20 years after the end of WW2. And most countries were just as racist at some point, even to the point of killing different races (in much smaller amounts than hitler).
User avatar #142 to #104 - northleech (10/14/2013) [-]
You do realize that Americans being stupid is a stereotype, right? Deal with it, your media and your presidents recently have been ******* awful, and your educational system is awful, so people make jokes about that, and the whole "god bless America" you hear all the time makes people laugh. That being said, of course you are not all stupid, and of course you are not all warmongers! It's a freaking stereotype, it's like namecalling. Would you, outside of the internet, say that every black person is a thief? Hell no!
User avatar #98 to #61 - thepandaking (10/14/2013) [-]
"american stupidity"
I was on your side until you sounded like a completely bigoted faggot. You have to realize that Americans, like me, also look down on dumb tv jokes like this, it's hipocritical, but it's just for the ratings to get a couple laughs at another country.
Calm the **** down and get off your high horse of calling every American stupid.
User avatar #99 to #98 - teoferrazzi (10/14/2013) [-]
huh, last time I checked, Jimmy Fallon was american.. so his is american stupidity..
User avatar #105 to #99 - elcreepo (10/14/2013) [-]
Not all Americans are stupid, you naive little inbred.
User avatar #103 to #99 - thepandaking (10/14/2013) [-]
or just the stupidity of American media more like, the stupidity of the fact that these kinds of jokes get more views than others. He's actually a good guy, but anyway calling it "American stupidity" such as to generalize all Americans as stupid, is a pretty dumb thing to say in my opinion.
User avatar #106 to #103 - teoferrazzi (10/14/2013) [-]
I didn't mean to say all americans are stupid.
however, there is a certain brand of stupidity that is typical of americans [not all of them]
User avatar #109 to #106 - thepandaking (10/14/2013) [-]
see even that is still pointing fingers while turning a blind eye to the rest of the world, every country's media pulls this kind of crap where they have stupid hypocritical jokes just to make middle age mothers at home laugh. It's all around the world, there's American stupidity, but there's also Canadian stupidity, and English stupidity, and Italian stupidity.
Or we can all just be honest with ourselves and recognize that humans in general have a lot of stupid faults, and that we should stop pointing out extremes and saying "look, see how these people are?"

just saiyan man.
User avatar #111 to #109 - teoferrazzi (10/14/2013) [-]
oh, and Italy? it's the ******* worst.
User avatar #110 to #109 - teoferrazzi (10/14/2013) [-]
you can say what you want, but this kind of joke would never fly in the UK because they have a historical and geographical awareness that americans lack. sure other things about the UK are bad but ignorance of history isn't one of them.
User avatar #116 to #110 - thepandaking (10/14/2013) [-]
but those things would fly though, and they do. I've seen so many clips of that famous news broadcaster's show (forgetting his name completely) saying ignorant things all of the time. My point is that there really is no possible condition in which a boundary can make you a certain kind of stupid. There are different kinds of stupid everywhere.
I'm the kind of stupid who engages in long discussions on the internet from time to time.

It's everywhere, and I'd never venture to say that Americans as a whole aren't stupid, but I'd also never say Americans as a whole are. Nor would I say such a thing about another country, since I know that generalizations are highly invalid.
User avatar #12 to #10 - ivoryhammer (10/13/2013) [-]
America didn't send black people to death camps, murdering over 6 million blacks.
User avatar #33 to #12 - ninjamyles **User deleted account** (10/13/2013) [-]
not that im dissagering but, a fun fact
during WW2 america sent a large portion of it's Asian citazins to concentration camps, under the guize of them being 'potential spy's'
User avatar #40 to #33 - trystanvierra (10/13/2013) [-]
*internment camps. We didn't KILL them. We released them all, as well.
User avatar #13 to #12 - eddymolly (10/13/2013) [-]
Arguable in terms of the American slave trade. I'm not sure 6 million, but still quite a lot. You have to admit, pretty much every power in world history have been bastards, doesn't matter who they are now, every country was evil at some point.
User avatar #17 to #13 - impaledsandwich ONLINE (10/13/2013) [-]
The vast majority of blacks taken in the slave trade ended up in South America. Only a few hundred thousand (if I remember correctly) were sent to America compared to the millions sent elsewhere. Either way, none of them were sent to death camps. That would be a horrible investment.
User avatar #21 to #17 - eddymolly (10/13/2013) [-]
A quick google says aprox. 600,000 in total, with at least 40% or so in the north, so a good 240,000 in the north.

And I didn't mean literally they were shipped over and killed, I meant it more in a sense of they were kept locked in a place till they die.

And it was more of a comment on the fact no nation really has a right to say another one is "more evil" or anything like that, all Nations have been evil at previous points in history.
#34 to #21 - yodawgiheard (10/13/2013) [-]
A cursory Google search reveals that the majority of slaves in the trans-Atlantic slave trade were sent to places other than the colonies.

Portugese America: 38.5%
British America (minus North America): 18.4%
Spanish Empire: 17.5%
French Americas: 13.6%
British North America: 6.45%

The reason that this happened is because the crops grown in South America and the Carribean were mainly cash crops like sugar and rice, and as such required a LOT more labor to produce and harvest. One of my textbooks said that the rate of attrition was so incredibly bad in Brazil that the slaves were dying off faster than they could be replaced, with an average life expectancy of 6 months to a year before conditions improved (done of course so that slaves could work for longer, not because the slave owners were nice or anything).

So, in short, sure, the Colonies did have slavery, and they did receive many slaves, and slavery IS bad, but to be oblivious to the millions of slaves that died in Brazil and elsewhere in South America within the same time period is ignorance that I just can't ignore.

Sources: My African American Studies class in college, and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade#European_colonization_and_slavery_in_the_Americas
User avatar #27 to #21 - impaledsandwich ONLINE (10/13/2013) [-]
Oh no, I'm not saying we colonies were the holy paradises we're told to believe they were. However, I don't think slavery was quite as evil as the organized extermination of ten million people.
#29 to #27 - eddymolly (10/13/2013) [-]
No, true, the 6 million killed in the Holocaust was more than the slave trade, but if you're talking in terms of who is "more evil", how do you say who is more evil? Is it purely number based? Or i it methods etc? How does one judge Evil? It gets into a whole new ballpark then, and its a bit late to be getting into all this crap.   
   
I think this gif nicely sums up my feelings on the matter
No, true, the 6 million killed in the Holocaust was more than the slave trade, but if you're talking in terms of who is "more evil", how do you say who is more evil? Is it purely number based? Or i it methods etc? How does one judge Evil? It gets into a whole new ballpark then, and its a bit late to be getting into all this crap.

I think this gif nicely sums up my feelings on the matter
#31 to #29 - impaledsandwich ONLINE (10/13/2013) [-]
Fair enough, though I think we can agree that Hitler's worst mistake was not finishing the job.   
   
 By reading this spoiler, you agree that this is only a joke, and that it does not necessarily reflect the views of its poster. You also agree to give impaledsandwich a hundred-year lease on your anus in exchange for the ability to fly (provided you get a pilot's license and an airplane).
Fair enough, though I think we can agree that Hitler's worst mistake was not finishing the job.

By reading this spoiler, you agree that this is only a joke, and that it does not necessarily reflect the views of its poster. You also agree to give impaledsandwich a hundred-year lease on your anus in exchange for the ability to fly (provided you get a pilot's license and an airplane).
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