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#13 - magnusmaiolriain
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(08/27/2014) [-]
Rome.
Rome.
User avatar #34 to #13 - thatuglynat
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(08/28/2014) [-]
why is this a ******* gif?
#36 to #34 - magnusmaiolriain
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(08/28/2014) [-]
...i dunno
it says jpg in explorer
#35 - antiponiesuser
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(08/28/2014) [-]
Monkey Genetic-upgrader Extraterrestial master race
#42 - tgruica
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(08/30/2014) [-]
User avatar #11 - dieterkaiser
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(08/27/2014) [-]
I'm going to turn this into a wallpaper
#41 to #11 - tgruica
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User avatar #43 to #41 - dieterkaiser
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(08/31/2014) [-]
nice. I was gonna make one, but I couldn't get the dimensions right.
User avatar #2 - internetexplain
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(08/27/2014) [-]
Carthage.

I take Helenic faggots over Latin faggots any day
User avatar #4 to #2 - schnizel [OP]
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(08/27/2014) [-]
Why, Rome established civilization and founded it on the Helenic basis?
User avatar #5 to #4 - internetexplain
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Carthage was awesome tho, way ahead of any other Helenic people out there and at it's peak, more advanced than rome.
They could have achieved a lot , hadn't they been wiped out by Rome.
User avatar #6 to #5 - schnizel [OP]
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***** plz, ***** plz, without Rome we would not have civilization. Carthage was nothing compare to Rome.
User avatar #7 to #6 - internetexplain
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(08/27/2014) [-]
We would have civilization, just in a way different way and perhaps, maybe have grown our own one without all the influence of these inferior faggots who came to europe after us.
User avatar #8 to #7 - schnizel [OP]
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******, plz. You are assuming that Carthaginian and Roman culture are fungible. They are not. Roman culture was, as a function of its origin in Latium, syncretic. It took aspects of many other cultures, including Gallic, Etruscan and Greek, with the result that it was very easy to absorb the cultures of other peoples and societies.

Carthaginian culture was nothing like that. Additionally, where the Romans believed it was a moral good to export their culture to other societies, the Carthaginians did not. The Carthaginians not only rarely attempted to impose their culture on local peoples but hardly ever established direct political rule. The Carthaginians were traders, so they built trading depots and tried to fighting locals or establish direct rule in foreign countries (a fact which, in the 19th century, led scholars like Mommsen to say that the British Empires was more like Carthage than like Rome).

On top of that, Roman culture, as a function of its interactions with the Greek world, was heavily literary. It values the written and spoken word in a way that the Carthaginians never did. For a Roman, the height of civilised culture was the "liberal arts" or artes liberales (lit. the skills suitable for a free man) which meant rhetoric, poetry and history. The Carthaginians had no such cultural equivalent.

The Romans exported the artes liberales to the places they conquered. They taught British, Gallic and Spanish chieftains to speak, write and think like a Roman senator. The Carthaginians never even conceived of doing such a thing.

Thus, had Rome never existed, there would have been no "dominant culture". Instead, a pan-Celtic culture would have emerged in Europe with strong localised variations (something that was happening in Gaul on the eve of Caesar's conquest). It is likely that, by 50AD or thereabouts, a Celtic state would have emerged in Gaul.
User avatar #16 to #8 - schnizel [OP]
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masterboll, I know that you are a faggot but can you at least say why you thumbed me down?
User avatar #15 to #8 - internetexplain
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That is the idea behind chosing Carthage and the point behind my statement " we would have civilization in a way different way"
User avatar #17 to #15 - schnizel [OP]
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But I fear that I may be nothing at all.
User avatar #18 to #17 - internetexplain
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(08/27/2014) [-]
Well, seeing you're from the balkans, there are 4 possibilities of what you'd become.
Going from the most likely to the most unlikely
Gothic
Hunnic
Kebab
Greek
User avatar #19 to #18 - schnizel [OP]
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(08/27/2014) [-]
Illyrian :^)
User avatar #20 to #19 - internetexplain
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You realize I put Greek as "the most unlikely" on the list right?
Let's be real, it's more realistic that the hunnic empire stays intact rather than "Greece" becoming a thing without Romans.
User avatar #21 to #20 - schnizel [OP]
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Well, if the Greeks united they would most likely rule the world.
User avatar #22 to #21 - internetexplain
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(08/27/2014) [-]
Well they did once, it didn't last 20 years.
User avatar #23 to #22 - schnizel [OP]
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But it was pretty good.
User avatar #24 to #23 - internetexplain
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(08/27/2014) [-]
Relatively speaking.
I'd rather have seen the Seleucid Empire or Ptolemean Egypt conquer the world than the hairy fags in Illyrium
User avatar #25 to #24 - schnizel [OP]
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Well the Seleucids were pretty bad empire wise and they got rekt by Ptolomey, and they got rekt by the Romans, which got rekt by the Goths, etc.
User avatar #28 to #25 - internetexplain
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Also you shouldn't underestimate the Goths, they were a serious Empire.
Granted, not as big or urban as the south of Europe due to climate, but the Gothic Kingdom was one of the few enemies Rome negotiated with.
User avatar #26 to #25 - internetexplain
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The Seleucid Empire was actually pretty good, they just had a lot of **** to deal with after the Macedonian Empire fell apart, from which they never recovered , partly because of the rise of Islam.
User avatar #27 to #26 - schnizel [OP]
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*****, the Seleucids were rekt by ptolomey long before islam, you mean the BYZANTINES?
User avatar #29 to #27 - internetexplain
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Nope, I mean Seleucid Persia, which lost all hope of recovering from the damage done to it between 500 and 650 A.D when the Huns wreaked havoc on Rome and Mohammed was spreading Islam in his first Jihad across Arabia.
User avatar #32 to #29 - schnizel [OP]
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np
User avatar #30 to #29 - schnizel [OP]
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What?
The Seleucid Empire got anexed by Rome in 63 BC.
What you mean is the Sassanid empire.
User avatar #31 to #30 - internetexplain
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Alright, my fault then, sorry.
Forget what I said, these retarded 3rd world empires of the early medieval times are all ****, so i can't tell them apart very well
#12 to #2 - anon id: ec175801
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#33 - anon id: e2cec45a
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(08/27/2014) [-]
Chirstianity is from Palestine/Israel/The middle east you ********

And in fact, today's entire civilization comes from there (Persia, Phoenicia, Babylon, Egypt, Assyria etc.). Greece is the only civilization that was created in Europe
#10 - viviannjames
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(08/27/2014) [-]
> "Wonder Stonehenge have been built by a far away land"
> Rustle my Winkies
> Invade Britannia anyways.
User avatar #9 - grovesimus
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(08/27/2014) [-]
No romuva? **** off.
#1 - anon id: e109a553
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(08/27/2014) [-]
star = communism = jewish

JIDF
User avatar #3 to #1 - schnizel [OP]
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(08/27/2014) [-]
lel
#14 - ablueguy
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(08/27/2014) [-]
Oy vey goy, stop being a racist-nazi-antisemetic-nazi-mysoginist-nazi-traditionalist-nazi.
Nazi.
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