I still think its a good idea. . A 391 points 14 hours ago" (last edited t hour ago) we 11190) t Slavery as punishment. Rather than paying for people who commit
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I still think its a good idea

A 391 points 14 hours ago" (last edited t hour ago) we 11190)
t Slavery as punishment. Rather than paying for people who commit major crimes (rape, murder, eta], to sit and do
nothing for the rest of their lives, make them a productive part of society and put them to don' t see why
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t Because then we' d have a bunch of black slaves again.
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#11 - shmooo (02/02/2014) [+] (14 replies)
the 13th amendment of the constitution of the united states explains that "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction". so in the U.S. all prisoners are technically slaves to the states and thus forcing them to work and be productive is totally leagal
#18 - bitchesbanthymine (02/02/2014) [+] (10 replies)
I'm going to list my problems with this post in ascending order of importance:   
1- If forced labor was the primary punishment then criminals would have no reason to do it efficiently.   
2- Pretty much everyone would complain that it takes potential jobs away from law-abiding people.   
3- The primary purpose of imprisonment is rehabilitation, followed by protection of society. Punishment is tertiary at best.
I'm going to list my problems with this post in ascending order of importance:
1- If forced labor was the primary punishment then criminals would have no reason to do it efficiently.
2- Pretty much everyone would complain that it takes potential jobs away from law-abiding people.
3- The primary purpose of imprisonment is rehabilitation, followed by protection of society. Punishment is tertiary at best.
#101 - tonyxx (02/03/2014) [+] (2 replies)
We did try to use use convicts for construction contracts, but since you don't have to pay convicts, their labor was much cheaper. As a result, alot of construction workers lost their jobs, which is why we don't do it any longer.
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User avatar #45 - pleuradispensor (02/03/2014) [+] (3 replies)
so we become North Korea?
#66 to #45 - newsuperyoshi (02/03/2014) [-]
I've had this for a while, but never decided to use it until now.
#106 - CIS White Male (02/03/2014) [+] (3 replies)
...Don't prisoners have a bad habit of, you know, being lazy ***** ?
#112 to #106 - implication (02/03/2014) [-]
Most of the guys in prison are lifting 24/7.
#119 - yuukoku (02/03/2014) [+] (10 replies)
>Executing them will make the hippies piss themselves.   
>Keeping them in prison costs too much for everyone.   
>Putting them to work pisses off unions because it costs them jobs.   
   
Which one here is cheaper?   
   
I'm only saying that the prison system was never a huge problem when they'd just take them out back and hang them for killing a bunch of kids or shooting up a crowd of people. It works in Texas where if you kill someone in the middle of intentionally committing a felony, you get the lethal D in your arm. They put down insane dogs, you know. Why not people? If they or other people think they're insane, then they should get them help before it's too late.   
   
Expecting tons of criticism. By all means, put in your thoughts.
>Executing them will make the hippies piss themselves.
>Keeping them in prison costs too much for everyone.
>Putting them to work pisses off unions because it costs them jobs.

Which one here is cheaper?

I'm only saying that the prison system was never a huge problem when they'd just take them out back and hang them for killing a bunch of kids or shooting up a crowd of people. It works in Texas where if you kill someone in the middle of intentionally committing a felony, you get the lethal D in your arm. They put down insane dogs, you know. Why not people? If they or other people think they're insane, then they should get them help before it's too late.

Expecting tons of criticism. By all means, put in your thoughts.
#85 - DrollHumor ONLINE (02/03/2014) [+] (12 replies)
I don't recall where I heard the idea, but I like the thought of throwing condemned criminals into boot camp and after training, sending them overseas.  Let them be the cannon fodder.    
   
People who enlist normally get the chance to ascend the military ranks as usual and may become officers. The criminals, if they so choose to stay in the military after their sentence has been fulfilled, may ascend no higher than Drill Sergeant. That way no innocent person is in charge of the newest, and therefore, most dangerous "recruits".  The criminal Drill Sergeant will of course be someone who has been rehabilitated and passed tests to prove they are trustworthy enough to be in charge of the Privates.   
   
Prison life is a 						*******					 cakewalk in comparison to boot camp, and combat makes gang shoot outs look like nerf battles.   
I guarantee no one who survives their sentence  is going to do anything violent ever again.    
   
Sincerely, an Army Brat.
I don't recall where I heard the idea, but I like the thought of throwing condemned criminals into boot camp and after training, sending them overseas. Let them be the cannon fodder.

People who enlist normally get the chance to ascend the military ranks as usual and may become officers. The criminals, if they so choose to stay in the military after their sentence has been fulfilled, may ascend no higher than Drill Sergeant. That way no innocent person is in charge of the newest, and therefore, most dangerous "recruits". The criminal Drill Sergeant will of course be someone who has been rehabilitated and passed tests to prove they are trustworthy enough to be in charge of the Privates.

Prison life is a ******* cakewalk in comparison to boot camp, and combat makes gang shoot outs look like nerf battles.
I guarantee no one who survives their sentence is going to do anything violent ever again.

Sincerely, an Army Brat.
User avatar #62 - fuzzywuzz (02/03/2014) [+] (3 replies)
Thats actually what slavery originally was, either to pay off a debt monetarily to a family or because you did them wrong.
#1 - FatherPedobear (02/02/2014) [+] (9 replies)
Leave it to the 8th amendment to take away all the fun punishments.
#147 - wthree (02/03/2014) [+] (5 replies)
Depends so much on whether you want an effective justice system that reduces crime. Or one that makes you feel better about punishing criminals.

Truth is, rehabilitation and "kinder" prisons work far better for reducing crime rates, and are far better for the country as a whole (in terms of economy and society). The down side is that some people don't get to sate their bloodulust.
User avatar #87 - biggrand (02/03/2014) [+] (3 replies)
Depending on your sentence I'm pretty sure you can actually do work while you fulfill your sentence.
User avatar #97 to #87 - thebaseballexpert (02/03/2014) [-]
fact. One of my friends is in prison for sexual assault of a minor, and he works at the prison. He's making decent money at a whoping $0.15 an hour
User avatar #78 - demandsgayversion (02/03/2014) [-]
But there are hard working immigrants who could use those jobs more than some criminal.
#191 - evanxzile (02/03/2014) [-]
And people will complain slaves are stealing our jobs.
User avatar #151 - mrgoodlove (02/03/2014) [+] (9 replies)
Imprisonment in America really is stupid. I think it was in Brazil that they let inmates ride these bikes that provide a part of the city's power in exchange for shorter sentences.
User avatar #160 to #159 - mrgoodlove (02/03/2014) [-]
I just watch everything online or on tv
User avatar #68 - elcreepo (02/03/2014) [+] (1 reply)
Why can't we just make prison such a horrible place that when those who are convicted of minor offensives leave, they never want to go back?
User avatar #75 to #68 - thebestpieever (02/03/2014) [-]
Because in concept the idea of a prison is not for punishment, for the most part, but rehabilitation.
#57 - hateminad (02/03/2014) [+] (1 reply)
User avatar #50 - theugandanhero (02/03/2014) [-]
And white ones.
It would be fair.
#49 - darkjustifier (02/03/2014) [+] (2 replies)
Yeah but now it'd only be the ones that rape and murder while the law abiding ones walk like gods amongst the enslaved whites and blacks
User avatar #63 to #49 - slenderwolf (02/03/2014) [-]
They wouldn't walk like "Gods". They'd walk like normal people that weren't assholes in a large way.
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