I Can't Title Things Properly. Poorly Drawn Line. THE ? fie ts HERE. SOCIETY HAS CRUMBLED. JILL Nth) BE? HUNT ER L. FOOD 15 SHEET. ME In MUTARE m " r l' LL BUIL
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THE ? fie ts HERE. SOCIETY HAS CRUMBLED.
JILL Nth) BE?
HUNT ER L.
FOOD 15 SHEET. ME
In MUTARE m " r
l' LL BUILD
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#52 - triggathepirate (11/16/2013) [+] (5 replies)
stickied by idoliam
Scribe fw
Scribe fw
#109 - wilder (11/20/2013) [-]
Hey now...preserving knowledge in that situation is Important.
#95 - seaofcoltrane (11/16/2013) [-]
Is it just me or should fallout be more..... Hard core. Bullets are harder to come by and do way more damage. Gun maintenance and food Yes I mean hunger systems are more of a problem. And better gunplay. What do you guys think.
User avatar #87 - deathcake (11/16/2013) [-]
well if there isn't much food then the hunter isn't very good at hunting...
#86 - falconxmard (11/16/2013) [-]
**falconxmard rolled a random image posted in comment #26 at children **
<- what I transform into during the apocalypse
#93 to #86 - lordpancake (11/16/2013) [-]
Yeah, you're the scribe, poor bastard.
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#80 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
**anonymous rolled a random image posted in comment #6641645 at Safe For Work Random Board ** mfw the apocalypse
#77 - giygasman (11/16/2013) [-]
**giygasman rolls 9**
User avatar #98 to #77 - idoliam ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
**idoliam rolls 2**
#94 to #77 - lordpancake (11/16/2013) [-]
**lordpancake rolls 4**
User avatar #92 to #77 - arrowinurbutt (11/16/2013) [-]
**arrowinurbutt rolls 4** why not
User avatar #90 to #77 - redictor ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
**redictor rolls 4**
User avatar #84 to #77 - misticalz (11/16/2013) [-]
**misticalz rolls 7**
User avatar #83 to #77 - wtf man (11/16/2013) [-]
**wtf man rolls 1**
#70 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
actually in this case the scribe will not be burned, but any of the other two could be. the reason being is that the scribe can document the process, creating a textbook for future learning or to recall a certain technique. the potential-learning processes of the warrior or hunter (without the scribe) are therefore stagnant and will not be able to overcome obstacles in which their own unique skills are not appropriate.
#91 to #70 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
They said that "the weakest" had to go. They thought of independent survival, not future generations. The warrior and hunter would both probably put up a fight, the scribe, not so much.
User avatar #69 - empithree (11/16/2013) [-]
can i be the guy with the pipboy?
User avatar #46 - vatra (11/16/2013) [-]
This makes me think of a certain section of a certain recent video game. I'm going to spoil it so none of you ******* have any right to complain

David's cannibal group in The Last of Us. Ellie was ******* badass.
User avatar #44 - aviators (11/16/2013) [-]
I'm honestly curious, how long do you guy's think you'd last and why?

my reason is hidden so you don't have to read it if you don't want to.

I'm an avid hunter, decent shot and i can make traps, i know a little about mechanics but it is by far not one of my strengths, general knowledge of types of plants what to eat what to avoid basic boy scout **** . Not the most athletic but i could out run something for long enough to find a hiding spot with a kick of adrenalin, and i learn fairly quick.
User avatar #75 to #44 - sirbutterballs (11/16/2013) [-]
I think I'd last a good amount of years. I'm a damn good shot with a rifle and a pistol, I've got good social skills so I could stick with a group, and I'm pretty good at tricking people and lying. I'd imagine I'd get killed off when I backstab the wrong person. Also I'd try to join groups of bandits in situations like this or hide in skyscrapers in the city, stealing and robbing when people don't expect it. Again I'm not playing long term, I'm probably gonna die in the process of one of these raids.
User avatar #71 to #44 - trollmobile (11/16/2013) [-]
i could survive infinitely if i get by my first winter
i'd be moving to the mountains i live next to.
the only shortage there would be, would be food
i know how to hunt, and i know how to, and where, to fish
the problem is that i'm not sure i'd be able to stack up enough food for a long winter.
especially if i'll be bringing more than 2 more people with me.
#64 to #44 - lazaman (11/16/2013) [-]
I say, as long as I want.   
    
If I was In or around my house when it happened, then I would be fine. here's why.   
   
My entire family consists of brutes, who are all way above average in hieght and strength. And we're all very clever aswell.   
I myself am 6'4&quot;, and a brute also.   
So when 						****					 creek started up, my whole family would gather into my house. I bet good money on that.   
Ontop of these factors, I have 3 freezers stocked with 						*****					, misc items and veggies, cause my dad figured it would be best to buy the meat in bulk to save money.   
ONTOP of that, we live in the forest, so we have animals in bundles, I see them daily. And we have wild fruits that grow also.   
   
With all this, if we played our cards right, I think we would only loose one person, and that would be result of disease.    
But thats all in theory, In reality I could just be shot in the head and eaten, or mugged.
I say, as long as I want.

If I was In or around my house when it happened, then I would be fine. here's why.

My entire family consists of brutes, who are all way above average in hieght and strength. And we're all very clever aswell.
I myself am 6'4", and a brute also.
So when **** creek started up, my whole family would gather into my house. I bet good money on that.
Ontop of these factors, I have 3 freezers stocked with ***** , misc items and veggies, cause my dad figured it would be best to buy the meat in bulk to save money.
ONTOP of that, we live in the forest, so we have animals in bundles, I see them daily. And we have wild fruits that grow also.

With all this, if we played our cards right, I think we would only loose one person, and that would be result of disease.

But thats all in theory, In reality I could just be shot in the head and eaten, or mugged.
#82 to #64 - llamahunter (11/16/2013) [-]
What happens to your freezers if there's no power?
User avatar #99 to #82 - lazaman (11/16/2013) [-]
well they are super thick, and insulated, so they would act as coolers for a while
But we have a generator, and tons of gas and stuff for it.
And we would probably smoke and dry the meat asap, so it would last longer.

But I get what your saying.
User avatar #61 to #44 - zameckis (11/16/2013) [-]
a month at best i think, without anyone around,
i think it will drive me insane that if i don't have anyone to talk with.
implying no one survive of course
User avatar #57 to #44 - darkangeloffire (11/16/2013) [-]
25 minutes, if I try.
User avatar #55 to #44 - darman (11/16/2013) [-]
I'm pretty fit, I'm in good health, I have years of wilderness survival training, and have trained in the art of fencing so I'd like to think I'd survive for a fair bit.
User avatar #54 to #44 - roflnaut (11/16/2013) [-]
I don't think I'd last too long by myself.

I am pretty athletic because I have been running my whole life and eat balanced meals and **** like that, but other than my great endurance and agility, I have pretty much no survival experience. I have never fired a gun, I have never gone hunting, my knowledge of most plants is pretty ****** .
User avatar #49 to #44 - desacabose (11/16/2013) [-]
I'd say about an hour and a half
User avatar #47 to #44 - vatra (11/16/2013) [-]
I'd say I'd last at least a year. reason being:

I can survive in the wild, so unless some people wonder in far enough to find me I'm good.
User avatar #45 to #44 - aviators (11/16/2013) [-]
also i give myself a couple months to 1 year max.
User avatar #37 - unculturedswine (11/16/2013) [-]
Now, how do they expect him to take notes with his hands tied like that?
#30 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
Yeah scribes are pretty much useless. The other 2 actually can do productive stuff, the scribe cannot.
User avatar #31 to #30 - fuzzyballs (11/16/2013) [-]
the scribe can document history, and how things work
how are your futur ofspring supposed to fix their **** when you don't give them a handy guide on how to do it
#48 to #31 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
what future offspring if there is no one to survive? scribe pretty much dead
User avatar #43 to #31 - commontroll (11/16/2013) [-]
The only problem is if that's the only thing he's good for. It's fine to document things, in fact, in an apocalypse I want to lead a large group of people I know into becoming a thriving civilization with trade routes and such, and most of the time I know I'll be reading whenever there's nothing I need to do, and documenting as much as I can.

But I'll also be doing the work that's needed to be done.
User avatar #65 to #43 - fuzzyballs (11/16/2013) [-]
yeah, good luck with that
#36 to #31 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
I'm sure the hunter and warrior know how to ******* write... they just might be able to use big words. It would actually be better for those 2 to document history. That way it will be easier for future people to understand. They wont use big words that some people might not know. Also oral history has worked for a very long time before wrting.
User avatar #38 to #36 - fuzzyballs (11/16/2013) [-]
heyheyhey
no swearing young man!
#41 to #38 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
... i'm 20. I'm not old but i'm not that young either. Why even bring up my age actually? What does that have to do with anything?
User avatar #42 to #41 - fuzzyballs (11/16/2013) [-]
22
younger than me, I'm allowed to call you young man, young man
#51 to #42 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
I understand that, but why? This has nothing to do with the post I made.

So let's try to get back on track. The scribe is useless. The other 2 can write just fine and tell stories. History will continue without the scribe.
User avatar #60 to #51 - mamalunarwolf (11/16/2013) [-]
History needs to be documented and passed down to the younger generation, as well as general hunting and defending techniques, if for no other reason other than preventing a repeat of the same cataclysm that caused the world to go to **** in the first place.
#66 to #60 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
You don't understand what i'm saying obviously... the scribe is not needed. The warrior can write. The hunter can write. They both can also tell stories passing them on. The scribe can only write. He has 1 use, that's it. And that 1 use the other 2 people can do just fine.
User avatar #68 to #66 - mamalunarwolf (11/16/2013) [-]
But neither of them is going to be focused on it. In that kind of world where supplies are scarce and the lay of the land is always changing the two of them are going to have their hands full with their duties. If they want to document certain things, no one is stopping them, but they cannot be relied on to keep extensive documentation of their colony/tribe/what have you. Scribes can be trusted to, simply because the written word is their specialty over physical prowess.

Another issue is that spoken word stories (Which I assume you're referring them them passing on) cannot be counted on as historical fact. Passing a story on verbally is a game of phone, essentially.

This kind of fallibility is present in written documentation as well but nowhere near as heavily.
#74 to #68 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
It's good enough. The important things will be documented. It's 1 less mouth to feed as well if they get rid of the scribe. It's better to have uses instead of only 1. The scribe is useless in everything except writing.
User avatar #81 to #74 - mamalunarwolf (11/16/2013) [-]
No, no it really is not. With that logic, both the warrior as well as the scribe are useless, because outside of active combat and defending the walls the warrior would contribute nothing to society. He can't assist the hunter, because you can't very well run up to a dear and stab it and expect success.

Thinking with that reasoning as well, you might as well be saying that the someone should be killed once they reach a certain age and cannot contribute or if they suffer from a disability that prevents them from further doing their duty.

Coordinating with hunters to make maps, documenting different hunting/defense techniques when the hunters and warriors cannot be arsed to teach (Which I imagine would be quite often), and seeing to the educational growth of it's citizens. The Scribe has more use to society than would be readily apparent.

There needs to be a gesalt of the three. You cannot expect have a society without a balance of those things.
#101 to #81 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
Eventually a scribe will be useful. But right off the bat no. First priority is surviving. Then when they have a little tribe or whatever a scribe will be useful. In the beginning not so much.
User avatar #103 to #101 - mamalunarwolf (11/16/2013) [-]
There is more to survival than just surviving. Not everyone can be useful in the beginning.
#104 to #103 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
First you need to make sure you have food and shelter. Then you can worry about schools and teaching people **** . Priorities are important during an apocalypse or whatever this post talks about.
User avatar #105 to #104 - mamalunarwolf (11/16/2013) [-]
Mhmm. Common sense.
User avatar #79 to #74 - haker (11/16/2013) [-]
He can make maps with using the hunter to get the lay of the land
He can keep inventory on food, medicine, etc.
And most importantly he would pass on the language, and without language we are just animals.

Its not about what skills you think are important, its about what skills the group doesnt have. The warrior is useless when hes not in battle, the hunter is useless unless he can go out and hunt. The scribe will always be able to document. And he provides a different outlook on situations, which can mean the survival of the group. Having one less mouth to feed isnt a good excuse to kill someone off. If the hunter is proficient he will bring in enough game that it wouldnt be an issue. If they catch a deer then they will have more food then they can viably eat because unless they have a way to preserve the meat it will go bad. The scribe can do more then just write, just like the warrior can do more then just fight. Saying someone is useless because "They just write" proves you dont know much about the world. Another important point is that the scribes would be able to keep an accurate report of the people they meet and where they find settlements. Not to mention the luxury of making sure everyone knows how to read and can read books in their down time. And giving someone written instructions is a lot more reliable then just telling them what to do.
#102 to #79 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
At first they're useless then once the tribe gets bigger it's good to have them.
User avatar #26 - flaminggodzilla (11/16/2013) [-]
I would definitely get rid of the weaker ones.
#39 to #26 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
That's funny considering you would be one of the weaker ones.
User avatar #18 - ilovetocuddle (11/16/2013) [-]
I can see myself turning completly ruthless in an apocalypse, which is odd seeing how I'm a mellow dude.
#28 to #18 - CHODYTHEBLAKGUY (11/16/2013) [-]
I completely agree. I have a sword and im going learn to use a bow and such eventually anyways so when that time comes im probably going to run through the woods hiding from people and shooting arrows into many people and sneaking up on them and stabbing a lot in the middle of the night and stealing any of their supplies and then leaving. ill probably be hunted down but whatevs
#13 - lilRican (11/16/2013) [-]
I'd like to atleast think id survive a few months   
   
but you know...   
   
im not very physically active...   
   
im not fat.. but im not in ready condition to run a few miles a day either   
I'd probably hide out in my home really if the trouble wasnt near where i live
I'd like to atleast think id survive a few months

but you know...

im not very physically active...

im not fat.. but im not in ready condition to run a few miles a day either
I'd probably hide out in my home really if the trouble wasnt near where i live
User avatar #29 to #13 - thebrownydestroyer (11/16/2013) [-]
I'd probably do the same, there's only one way into my home so it wouldn't be too much of a problem. I guess it depends on what type of apocalypse it is.
User avatar #19 to #13 - thelastamerican (11/16/2013) [-]
That's really not a bad idea to be honest. For what purpose would you possibly want to run miles every day? It's a huge waste of calories, so there has to be an incredibly good reason. In my most humble of opinions it would be best to contact your neighbors, trade notes, trade supplies, and if you know and trust them, move into one house. Consolidate resources, manpower, and go from there. In the mean time, buy dried beans, rice, and clear, high proof alcohol.
#97 to #19 - lordpancake (11/16/2013) [-]
Also buy something to cook with that isnt powered by electricity.
#16 to #13 - fecal ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
Holy **** that gif is broken in the strangest of ways
#12 - diablojoe (11/16/2013) [-]
I WANT POWER ARMOUR BEEATCH!
User avatar #4 - tmbg (11/16/2013) [-]
If there is an apocalypse, the smart will survive, if anyone
#89 to #4 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
"it is not always the smartest or the strongest that survives, but the one most responsive to change."- was probably Darwin but I'm not sure.
#50 to #4 - stupro (11/16/2013) [-]
Look, adu, we found a new ****** !
#100 to #50 - tmbg (11/16/2013) [-]
Comment Picture
#56 to #50 - adu (11/16/2013) [-]
tmbg has been a part of the crew for a while now. I even helped him find more Brook images.
#53 to #50 - triggathepirate (11/16/2013) [-]
Yea... Don't do that.
#34 to #4 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
Yeah because knowing algebra will really save you from a zombie you ******* euphoric neckbeard **** .
User avatar #76 to #34 - mistercookie (11/16/2013) [-]
Smart =/= How much you have been taught, or how what you get on tests.

Smart = How easily you can understand, and adapt to new situations and use your brain to learn how to deal with them.
#22 to #4 - gerfox (11/16/2013) [-]
The smartest, the strongest and the lucky others.

Actually, there's a Darwinist theory on antisemitism citing this as the reason why people hate Jews. The Jews started to be pursued when Christianity had it's breakthrough. The Darwinist theory explains that because of persecution of the Jews only the strong and the smart has survived, making the survivors more fit genetically with for instance economy etc. This again led to further hate. I find it interesting
#17 to #4 - lemleet (11/16/2013) [-]
in some cases instinct is more useful. i don't think that a math mayor would calculate his way out of such misery. an engineer might be useful though
User avatar #20 to #17 - thelastamerican (11/16/2013) [-]
I think he means people who see it coming and prepare in advance. The people who buy provisions and bartering materials.
User avatar #14 to #4 - megamolester (11/16/2013) [-]
while i do get where you're coming from i have to disagree because stephen hawking will most likely not survive
User avatar #10 to #4 - aliatus **User deleted account** (11/16/2013) [-]
Technically, if it's the apocalypse, no one will survive.
#88 to #10 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
Technically, if it's the apocalypse, no one might get killed. Apocalypse comes from the Greek ἀποκάλυψις (apolcalypsis) meaning to "reveal", specifically, something had had previously been hidden.

All an "apocalypse" is, is the revealing of something hidden, perhaps some sort of truth of life or the world. If anything, the apocalypse may be a profound event that changes our paradigm as a whole for the better.

Πλήθος
User avatar #32 to #10 - plainarcane **User deleted account** (11/16/2013) [-]
Not with that attitude.
User avatar #27 to #10 - unncommon (11/16/2013) [-]
I guess that guy isn't going to live very long?
User avatar #9 to #4 - malhaloc (11/16/2013) [-]
Depends on the kind of smart. If you mean the kind that fixes your computer or was an A+ student in English class then not really. If you mean someone who knows all the tips and tricks to survival situations or knows the ins and outs of guerrilla warfare then yeah.
User avatar #11 to #9 - matexius ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
Guerrila warfare?
I love guns but...why Guerrila... it's basically hit-and-run with a cooler name.
Wouldn't you be better of just learning how to snipe danger, prey and similar things out of the way? Considering the fact that some people always survive, no matter what.
But I have to agree on that survival situations part... If you know how to simply prepare a fire to making shelter that can rival the elements...that is much more important than math stuff... Luckily, I'm not good at Math...
User avatar #107 to #11 - malhaloc (11/17/2013) [-]
I said guerrilla because the beauty of it is you dont need guns for it. you need stealth and planning. Basically ninja your way in, sabotage, loot, and leave. Or in case of battle, stay hidden, ambush, booby trap, and kill silently. Remember kids divide and conquer.
User avatar #108 to #107 - matexius ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
You make a point, but guns aren't the only long-ranged weapon; Crossbows and normal bows, blowguns, throwing knives and others can also work wonders. Sure stealth is good, but if you get noticed, you might as well end up at gun-point... or worse.
Divide and conquer only works in larger numbers, because you can get picked of one-by-one, if you're not careful; if we are talking about the apocalypse, not many people will be with you, only the people you trust most. You have to adapt to the enviroment, if you want to survive. I guess you get to choose which tactic you use to get through the problem. Guerrila, Sniping, Divide-and-conquer, head-on assault; these can be used well, but not all the time, you have to use the right one for the situation.
User avatar #21 to #11 - thelastamerican (11/16/2013) [-]
When the world finally comes to a screeching halt I would have to say that shooting a gun for any reason is a terrible idea. It tells anyone in earshot that you have, or now have, something worth protecting. If those people are desperate enough they'll try and take it from you. People are going to think that I'm just watching the walking dead for saying this, but get yourself a crossbow, or a bow, practice with them until you feel that you could probably hunt at fairly well, and stow that guerrilla warfare/sniping/being Rambo ******** .
User avatar #106 to #21 - malhaloc (11/17/2013) [-]
Guerrilla warfare doesn't have to include guns. The basic idea is to stay hidden complete your objective as quickly and safely as possible then get out. The native americans taught the colonists how to do it and we used that **** to take down the british military, the most powerful fighting force at its time.
User avatar #6 to #4 - DeathOne ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
Documenting the process is a very unnecessary thing in an apocalypse, and not very smart either.
User avatar #23 to #6 - thelastamerican (11/16/2013) [-]
Keeping a journal wouldn't be a terrible idea at all. You're going to have plenty of down time. You would be surprised how much free time hunter gatherers had. A deer will feed a family of four for weeks. IF you don't exert yourself. Lower the population enough, and society reverts back to hunter gathering. Writing is the first thing that a society creates just before making the leap from hunter gatherer to subsistence farming most of the time.
User avatar #5 to #4 - idoliam ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
The have to be smart and calculated but too much calculation could lead to delays which would cause greater problems for the intelligent one than it would for someone who acts on impulse.
#7 to #5 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
So it has to be a balanced combination of both. One who is determined and cunning, but able to act out his own plans.
User avatar #8 to #7 - idoliam ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
Exactly. Granted said person was going at it alone, if they were in a group then it's still important to have a good balance of brain and brawn.
#3 - essdubz (11/16/2013) [-]
They should make a game like this.
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