How to give Dog Medicine
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ultimatebuttercup ONLINE (11/21/2015) [-] You achieved the goal, but are teaching the dog bad habits. Rather than controlling the dog and giving his medicine through peanut butter or a treat, you have taught him to beg for food that is not his and immediately eat food off of the floor. My dogs (x4) know that if food falls on the floor, it is mine till I give it to them.
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thechosentroll (11/21/2015) [-] I've noticed there are 3 general types of dog owners.
-The ones that consider it a furry little slave, which has to unconditionally obey everything they say and show no impulse or initiative to do anything on its' own.
-The ones that consider it their baby, which shouldn't have any self-control or manners whatsoever and has basically turned its' owners into its' little bitches.
-The ones that consider it a part of the family and try to avoid the extremes, which leads to the other two groups calling them idiots.
Can you guess which one you fall in?
-The ones that consider it a furry little slave, which has to unconditionally obey everything they say and show no impulse or initiative to do anything on its' own.
-The ones that consider it their baby, which shouldn't have any self-control or manners whatsoever and has basically turned its' owners into its' little bitches.
-The ones that consider it a part of the family and try to avoid the extremes, which leads to the other two groups calling them idiots.
Can you guess which one you fall in?
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ultimatebuttercup ONLINE (11/21/2015) [-] The post is old so this is only for discussion.
I dont consider them slaves. I consider them children (not like a baby). They have the demeanor and personalities of children quite often. BUT children must be obedient, so exercising control on their negative behaviors prevents them from reinforcing it to the point it is annoying.
With my four dogs, we treat them ALL as if they were family because we love them, but that doesnt mean we let them beg for food, or eat food off of the floor (because that can start fights between them). We manage them so they are not unruly and out of control. But we play with them, and snuggle with them, and love them.
Dogs also are programmed with a pack mentality. Being descendants of wolves, they naturally see their family as their pack. Being the Alpha means you are in control because you dictate their behaviors and correct that which are wrong, as a wild Alpha wolf would do when a underling acts out of line, it prevents bad habits from forming. Just because you use this animalistic dominance approach doesnt mean that you are treating them like your slave. It means that if I take them on a walk, they dont dash away from me at the first sign of freedom, that they will always be in control when we have guests in the house, and they will be in control when they are around each other.
We have a large mix of dogs with a German Shepard mix, a Labrador, a Boxer-Lab mix, and a Boston Terrier. We have to make sure they dont kill the Boston while the bigger dogs are playing so we have to have some precautions. But our dogs love us. They sit in the sofa and chairs with us. They snuggle up at night with us. They are big sweet girls. All I would compare our discipline to is that of a parent offering "proper" discipline to a child. We dont beat our dogs, we dont send mixed signals to them, they know the boundaries that we have set for them, and they follow them while maintaining their sweet dispositions.
We are avid dog lovers, and so exercise proper control. It may not be a big problem if a wiener dog is aggressive over some food or maybe when guests walk in through the door, I have 3 big dogs and one pint sized dog, so I dont want my dogs acting in any uncontrollable way that could result in someone getting bit.
I dont consider them slaves. I consider them children (not like a baby). They have the demeanor and personalities of children quite often. BUT children must be obedient, so exercising control on their negative behaviors prevents them from reinforcing it to the point it is annoying.
With my four dogs, we treat them ALL as if they were family because we love them, but that doesnt mean we let them beg for food, or eat food off of the floor (because that can start fights between them). We manage them so they are not unruly and out of control. But we play with them, and snuggle with them, and love them.
Dogs also are programmed with a pack mentality. Being descendants of wolves, they naturally see their family as their pack. Being the Alpha means you are in control because you dictate their behaviors and correct that which are wrong, as a wild Alpha wolf would do when a underling acts out of line, it prevents bad habits from forming. Just because you use this animalistic dominance approach doesnt mean that you are treating them like your slave. It means that if I take them on a walk, they dont dash away from me at the first sign of freedom, that they will always be in control when we have guests in the house, and they will be in control when they are around each other.
We have a large mix of dogs with a German Shepard mix, a Labrador, a Boxer-Lab mix, and a Boston Terrier. We have to make sure they dont kill the Boston while the bigger dogs are playing so we have to have some precautions. But our dogs love us. They sit in the sofa and chairs with us. They snuggle up at night with us. They are big sweet girls. All I would compare our discipline to is that of a parent offering "proper" discipline to a child. We dont beat our dogs, we dont send mixed signals to them, they know the boundaries that we have set for them, and they follow them while maintaining their sweet dispositions.
We are avid dog lovers, and so exercise proper control. It may not be a big problem if a wiener dog is aggressive over some food or maybe when guests walk in through the door, I have 3 big dogs and one pint sized dog, so I dont want my dogs acting in any uncontrollable way that could result in someone getting bit.
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ultimatebuttercup ONLINE (11/21/2015) [-] Its a lack of control on your part. If you allow that kind of freedom with your dog, dont be surprised when they are impulsive and act on their own. If they look for your permission to eat anything off the ground, they acknowledge your dominance and will be more responsive to your commands. It depends on how much you want your dogs to listen to you, but I think most owners would want obedient dogs.
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lotengo (11/20/2015) [-] Very clever Pedro, now whatever you do, DON'T build this bigass wall.
Look at this nice wall, just look at it, but don't you dare building it. Don't build the wall.
Do not build this wall Pedro
Look at this nice wall, just look at it, but don't you dare building it. Don't build the wall.
Do not build this wall Pedro
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theydontlikeu (11/21/2015) [-]
hes trying to trick the mexican into building the wall. hes trying to trick the mexican into building the wall.
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anythingoes ONLINE (11/21/2015) [-]
Except the guy's not mexican. He's obviously speaking portuguese. Judging byt the dialect, he's brazillian.
I mean, if you're going to be racist, at least get your bigotry right.
I mean, if you're going to be racist, at least get your bigotry right.
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magicalsteve (11/21/2015) [-] Why is he saying no in english?
please get the reference and don't think im retarded
please get the reference and don't think im retarded
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xerxic (11/21/2015) [-]
Well, eventually the dog will learn better. Assuming that medicine tastes like most medicine does. If consistently told not to do something, and disobedience ends up with something that tastes like chalk, the dog won't want to keep disobeying.
It's clever the first time, but reverse psychology isn't consistently effective on an animal that has been bred and domesticated specifically for obedience.
The dog could have quite easily been trained to respond like this, and it's all a well rehearsed act.
It's clever the first time, but reverse psychology isn't consistently effective on an animal that has been bred and domesticated specifically for obedience.
The dog could have quite easily been trained to respond like this, and it's all a well rehearsed act.
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darksideofthebeast (11/21/2015) [-] Well, then it's a win-win.
He'll end up being conditioned to think that disobeying = ****** tasting things or just general displeasure.
He'll end up being conditioned to think that disobeying = ****** tasting things or just general displeasure.
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xerxic (11/21/2015) [-]
Negative reinforcement can be pretty effective, but that won't get the dog to take his pills. Might stop the dog from begging for strange foods, but it takes some better training to keep a dog away from stronger smelling foods it's familiar with.
Dogs are pretty situational, they don't think begging is bad to begin with, and No is something that needs to be enforced with every evocation, or it has no power. The word is remembered second (if at all), facial expression and tone is what they'll pick up first. Half-hearted and lazily saying no to a dog, with only a hint of disappointment isn't commanding. All the dog is learning here is that medicine tastes like **** , not that every single food off the ground or begged for is bad. If you consistently eat foods that the dog doesn't like, they'll still question whether or not that steak or pizza pocket they're smelling is goddamned delicious.
If the dog wasn't specifically trained to react that way, it's not unlikely they'd have spat up the pill, if they took any time to taste it rather than just swallow it.
Reverse psychology works best on people or animals that don't have a desire to please and obey. It's much more effective to teach a dog to take their medicine, because it's something that you want, rather than trying to trick them that it's something they want. Hiding medicine in other foods is just the easiest method, that kind of deception works on anything.
Dogs are pretty situational, they don't think begging is bad to begin with, and No is something that needs to be enforced with every evocation, or it has no power. The word is remembered second (if at all), facial expression and tone is what they'll pick up first. Half-hearted and lazily saying no to a dog, with only a hint of disappointment isn't commanding. All the dog is learning here is that medicine tastes like **** , not that every single food off the ground or begged for is bad. If you consistently eat foods that the dog doesn't like, they'll still question whether or not that steak or pizza pocket they're smelling is goddamned delicious.
If the dog wasn't specifically trained to react that way, it's not unlikely they'd have spat up the pill, if they took any time to taste it rather than just swallow it.
Reverse psychology works best on people or animals that don't have a desire to please and obey. It's much more effective to teach a dog to take their medicine, because it's something that you want, rather than trying to trick them that it's something they want. Hiding medicine in other foods is just the easiest method, that kind of deception works on anything.
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vampired (11/21/2015) [-] The man with two fridges uses psychology to trick a dog. But when he upgrades his powers to three fridges...
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thirdjess ONLINE (11/21/2015) [-] I trained my dog to be 'vet friendly'. Originally I trained him to open his mouth on command for dental checks, but it works for medicine too.
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pivotmasterdmtwo (11/21/2015) [-] If they only way you can get a dog to obey you is to make him disobey you, either that dog was trained badly or really really well.
