How school changes

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#1 - masterbetty (12/14/2015) [-]

None of my professors ever give me milkduds...

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#37 to #1 - speedyonbiscuit ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]

Mine gives me candy corn every now and then

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#71 to #37 - therockofshame (12/15/2015) [-]

sucks to be you then

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#27 to #1 - yunoavailable (12/15/2015) [-]

mine brought in random candy after Halloween

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#47 to #1 - gabsmatags (12/15/2015) [-]

My Intro to Organic and Biological Chemistry professor regularly brought cookies, cupcakes, fruits, and candy to class for us. My Calc and Analytical Geometry professor brought giant bags of candy all the time and my Intro to Biological Anthropology professor liked to bring boxes of gourmet chocolate. All of them urged us to take as much of it as we wanted. I love my teachers.

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#64 to #47 - magneficat (12/15/2015) [-]

those candies had ritalin in them

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#12 to #1 - thelurkers (12/15/2015) [-]

mine gave me candies.

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#2 to #1 - cupcakescankill (12/15/2015) [-]

Mine gave peanut butter cups though

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#44 to #2 - tarabostes (12/15/2015) [-]

GIF

I'd taste your cups if you know what I mean

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#5 to #1 - anon (12/15/2015) [-]

Mine gave me a reach-around

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#3 - devilofscience (12/15/2015) [-]

Seriously all the ******** they feed you through out your lower education goes right out the window in college; like...

MS/ES: "It may not seem like it now but cursive will be very important in college"
C: "... and don't you ******* dare try and turn this assignment in in cursive, I don't have time to decipher your dead language, besides most of you suck at it"

MS/HS: "Now remember in college they're not going to put up with your sloppy hand writing so you better clean it up here."
C: "look just try and make it legible and if you can't mange that please just type it out, I'll even print it for you." God tire teacher, most others willing to help when you can't print say just message it to me.

HS: "this math problem will be crucial in college!"
C: "Bwah ha ha, where did you learn that! I mean you could do it that way but it'll take forever, here do this instead!"

ES/MS:"You'll never see adults playing video games, they're childish and a waste of time, you better shape up or you're going to have a hard life ahead of you"
C: "So class you see that new fall out game? it looks like it's going to be so much fun!... 'Ahem' but remember this is not me giving you permission to slack of my assignments come first! after all I'm going to have to grade them first"

All: "this type of horse play will not be tolerated in college!"
C: "Let the segway jousting begin! and don't forget free pizza in the student center!"

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#29 to #3 - nustix (12/15/2015) [-]

I don't know what college math you have, but I go to university and all the math I get is based on the stuff I got thaught in highschool.

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#57 to #29 - anon (12/15/2015) [-]

Engineering in uni - forget what you learned in HS, they taught you the wrong way. Use my way or fail

A ******* monkey could do the math we learned in HS.

NB4 calc, no calc isn't hard so don't use it as an excuse

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#78 to #29 - confusedasian (12/15/2015) [-]

The video game one is false too. I even took a game analysis and development class in High School. Also, my ap psych teacher played Gears of War.

I can just imagine her running around with the chain saw.

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#87 to #78 - devilofscience (12/16/2015) [-]

Actually I only mentioned elementary school and middle school, I suppose that's more about who your teacher is though.

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#88 to #29 - devilofscience (12/16/2015) [-]

I suppose I phrased that one wrong, it's not that you don't solve the same problems it's that the way they taught you to solve it in highschool was just overly complicated and easy to mess up.

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#24 to #3 - iexs (12/15/2015) [-]

sometimes i play fallout with my professor

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#83 to #24 - yugiohkris

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How? They're all single player games.

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#84 to #83 - iexs (12/16/2015) [-]

Take turns.

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#45 to #3 - dreygur (12/15/2015) [-]

That 4th point though.

I had a teacher in HS who asked the class if any of us had beaten SC2 on the hardest difficulty, because he couldn't and seeked tips. Damn shame I didn't have him for long.

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#4 to #3 - IamPinhead (12/15/2015) [-]

Learning how to present your work neatly is crucial if you want to get into a technical field, but generally professors don't give half as much of a **** as lower education tries to convince you.
"It's too nice out and I'd rather teach from slides, I'm canceling class"
"It's probably gonna snow too much, I'm calling it"
"I've got sick kids at home, let's cut class early"

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#11 to #4 - yamiyo (12/15/2015) [-]

Everyone types and prints nowadays, though. I cannot tell you the last time I saw anything education hand written.

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#41 to #11 - IamPinhead (12/15/2015) [-]

That's true, but you're going to be doing a lot (if not all) of your computational work by hand. It all depends on what you want to do.

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#48 to #41 - yamiyo (12/15/2015) [-]

Fair enough.

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#51 to #4 - jemmydubloon (12/15/2015) [-]

I had a god tier college teacher during the elections that would let you skip class and homework provided you went to any political rally and brought back proof. The teacher didn't care what our political stances was she just thought that having us be civicly active was more important than anything she could teach.

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#19 to #3 - anon (12/15/2015) [-]

GIF

**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image**The schools are more just trying to make sure your not a pain to future teachers, they try to posebo you as you'll work more effectively during school. Remember how ****** the states school policy's can **** over more people then help if the students do poorly on tests. Their not wrong to trick you as there life's depend on you doing descent Or bad, at least inthe states

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#66 to #19 - iamchicken (12/15/2015) [-]

What a ******* roll.

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#23 to #3 - ordog (12/15/2015) [-]

At my college there is even an elective course named "videogames". You just play videogames and talk about them a bit.

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#68 to #23 - squishypyro (12/15/2015) [-]

We have an actual games development course, the teacher is chill as **** and you actually learn some pretty neat stuff there. We have dark souls competitions sometimes

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#40 to #3 - thesinful (12/15/2015) [-]

HS: "You'll need to memorize these formulas so you know how to do this without a calculator."
C: "Go ahead and use your calculator, your notes, and the book if you want. In real life, you'll have all those things available."

Also, my class was flat out told that only typed assignments would be taken. Professor didn't wanna try to read that damn many different handwritings.

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#58 to #40 - anon (12/15/2015) [-]

no calculators in the technical fields

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#16 - robuntu (12/15/2015) [-]

True story....

College used to be tough. Back in the day, only the exceptional students went to college. Either you were very smart/talented/hardworking or your parents were rich. Average kids couldn't get in.

A lot of your teachers growing up, went to college in the 50s and 60s when that **** wouldn't fly in college.

Meanwhile though, things changed. For a lot of reasons, our society all decided that college was the thing to do. Back in 1965 the US Government was all, 'Loans for every student that wants to go'. But colleges and universities, well, they're run by people and people are greedy.

So we had this massive change in higher education. Suddenly your students have blank checks signed by the government. And the people running the universities saw an opportunity.

1960 - Less than 3k students in public universities
1970 - More than double that.

But students weren't getting smarter. Universities just saw $$$. Instead of 20 kids, let's admit 40. And we'll get 2x as much money but hardly any additional cost. So that's what Universities did. Admission standards slowly got lower and lower.

Tuition also kept going up and up.

Instead of promoting high standards, Universities catered to the students. We didn't get better classes, but we got fancy dorms. Why? Because a high school student is more likely to pick the school with the super chill dorms than the one that will make them study every weekend.

Universities became a business.

Of course, at the same time, high schools were dealing with rampant grade inflation. So, in 50s an average student would be C student. Now they'd be a B student. All in the name of getting that high schools 'College rates' up. Now you've got dumb kids who are in the 'average' (non accelerated) classes who never had a chance in going to college in the 50s or 60s - who will have Universities lining up to take their money.

They'll pick an easy major, party for four years, get a degree and then go work at Starbucks or become an elementary/high school teacher.

So yes, college is mostly a joke these days. It was a joke when I went and got my rubber stamped degree.

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#38 to #16 - littlebigr (12/15/2015) [-]

I agree, but at the same time this depends on the school and major. The school i go to (University of Florida) and my major (Engineering) seriously ***** people up if you decide to live the stereotypical "college" lifestyle of partying every day and hardly paying attention to class. Of course, each individuals' experience may vary, but, generally, people in my school and major have to work pretty hard to even pass, let alone do well.
At the same time, i used to go to a community college elsewhere in the state, and that school was an absolute joke. I did nothing every day, and I got almost all A's. So like i said, it all depends on the school and major.

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#79 to #38 - plazmaflare (12/15/2015) [-]

Did you go to Valencia?

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#59 to #38 - taniv (12/15/2015) [-]

In Sociology and Engineering, double major at University of Calgary. The Arts are a breeze in comparison. While an A in Arts takes more work than an A in Engineering because the latter is more reliant on your intellectual ability, getting a B, or even just a passing grade, in the former is all but effortless. I got 83% on my last final for Soci, and I didn't show up for a single lecture in the past month and a half or read the two required books.

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#56 to #16 - taniv (12/15/2015) [-]

I'm in Engineer and Sociology, so I've got some insight here.

As far as I know, most of the professions or focused degree paths are relatively the same, save that some schools have lower course loads than others or previous years in Engineering, or they've vastly improved. The Arts on the other hand, as far as my experience goes with them (which isn't very far yet) are ridiculously easy. While, with Engineering, my grade is much more of a consistent rate of effort and intellect translated into results, I find with the Arts that I can put in the bare minimum effort and get a B or C+ just based on being smart, but if I wanted an A I'd have to be logging more hours than I care to put in. My experience with that is because understanding the core concept will net you the vast majority of available points, while the last points just out of reach are for those who memorize and perfect the obscurest of details that I just can't be bothered to study.

Long story short, I think a lot of it comes from the huge wealth of programs and courses that opened up in Universities for **** that doesn't matter. You can take a course in anything you want, and it's actually really awesome because that means that you can learn about anything that interests you. The problem is, the people have been sold on this grandiose lie that you need a degree to get a job. Not only do most degrees not lead you into any direct career path as opposed to the classical fields like Engineering or Medicine, but there's some ********** going on when you're using a degree in the Sociology of Criminal Deviance to give you credentials if you wanna work in, say, Law Enforcement, but to get that degree you had to take at least 20 courses that had NOTHING to do with your Major. I mean, I'm all for branching out and learning things outside your specialized area, that's how I ended up starting on the path towards a double major, but all these classes you don't need contribute to all the **** that's milking people for their ******* money. It's not a big deal in High School, when kids need to be learning standard schools of thought and understand the world around them, but when you have someone that has a set path laid out for them and they have limited resources, it's ******* gouging them to make them do even a single course that doesn't pertain to their career choice. Brutal **** .

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#60 to #16 - anon (12/15/2015) [-]

While I mostly agree with you, I'm an education major and that **** isn't easy at my university nor in my state. Plus the way you painted it sounded like you're denouncing the teaching profession when some of us want to get in there to ****** what some teachers have been doing for awhile due to their tenure. Even the ones who go for the education profession here who think it's easy drop out of it because of the classes and the steps to licensure in my university. I don't know if it was your college or what but I can't say that the entirety of colleges are blowoff years, it all depends on how much a professor values their position in education.

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#50 to #16 - goddamnwizard (12/15/2015) [-]

Damn son, I'm gonna have to copy this and use it later

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#18 to #16 - chigz ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]

Well it heavily depends where you live. Where I'm from, college/uni is taken very seriously. If you're good enough, you don't pay tuition. Classes are desinged to be difficult, challenging, to take a lot of time and a lot of effort, and are set up to an old system of schooling. We don't have campuses and such, it's incredibly different than american colleges.

On the other hand, students are given very little help. You're basically left to fend for yourself. I said they were difficult, but more often than not they are just unfair. The material you are required to process is humongeous, and often not useful in practice, most of it being outdated theorems and unimportant/ irrelevant, making you study stuff, but not actually learn it. So it thins out students by simple purging; a lot of people i know gave simply due to stress.

So in my opinion, american colleges are better(bar the tuition costs; those are retarded). But to be given free reign on your education is something i like; you don't have to study heavily, you're not insanely pressured, but all of the materials and options are given to you to use however you please; whether you excel or not is only on your shoulders, allowing you to truly achieve on your own; not feel like you just got propelled through a meat grinder and barely survived, which is what college feels like here in the Balkans.

Just my 2 cents.

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#20 to #18 - robuntu (12/15/2015) [-]

* I barely graduated high school because I was a lazy f*** who didn't do the work.
* I went to college and spent four years of my life getting drunk 3-4 times per week. I did sports, played video games, went to parties and rarely attended class.
* I paid the university 40k
* Learned almost nothing.
* Graduated with a degree.

That's what American college was like for me. It's a joke. You're just paying for the experience.

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#21 to #20 - chigz ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]

Due to not being american, i'm not someone how can confirm nor deny what it's like.

Most of what i said about USA colleges are from second hand sources.

But would you say, that if you actually did study, did all your assignments and such, got good grades, do you think you'd have learned anything?

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#22 to #21 - robuntu (12/15/2015) [-]

That's the thing, I did get good grades. I failed a few classes, but the University just let me retake them. I finished with like a 3.2 GPA.

Now maybe it's different at MIT or Yale or whatever. But at a generic state school - it was a joke.

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#81 to #20 - infinitereaper (12/15/2015) [-]

I work pretty hard in college, maybe you just have a high IQ.

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#85 to #81 - robuntu (12/16/2015) [-]

Nah, I mean, I'd love to claim I'm really smart and stuff; but I'm not. I'm guessing you go to a more prestigious school or have a particularly hard major?

No doubt, really tough programs exist, it's just that there are so many easy ones.

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#86 to #85 - infinitereaper (12/16/2015) [-]

idk, I wanna study economics, which means a business associates, which means college maths and financial accounting (uuuggggghhhhh) and **** . It's an awful lot of work at times. Each semester seems to only get worse.

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#6 - crlmsonhazard (12/15/2015) [-]

Don't matter if you do well in college or not. Jobs are given out superficially. Ever see a ridiculously hot bum? Of course not. It's all appearances, connections and skin color. God help you if you are pure anglo-saxon. Our people are being persecuted by racist affirmative action policies that give Mongoloid felon gangsters jobs whilst the prodigy dies in an alley

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#32 to #6 - abesimpson (12/15/2015) [-]

I agree with the first half of what you said.

Connections and appearances are very important. And it's not about grades unless you're heading towards a masters or doctorate. Employers don't care that you were the top in your class or bottom (although it helps if you can prove you were in the top).

But connections and being outgoing is very important.

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#7 to #6 - kilgrave (12/15/2015) [-]

You again. I'm just gonna say it. You genuinely should violently off yourself. You by your own admission work a lowly part time job, have no plans to pursue a career, are a 28 year old kissless virgin and have no hobbies other than tossing off and *********** on Funnyjunk. You are ostensibly a fat **** . It's gone beyond being pathetic to just being nauseating. Clearly nobody will miss you. You will continue to be a drain on the resources of society and your parents until you get the balls to go through with it. Stop being a sissy and do it, no one likes you not even on the Internet. Coward

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#25 to #7 - emiyashirou ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]

He sort has a point though. I know people who were literally told they couldn't get promoted because the business was too small for employment quotas to allow any white people in management positions. (I live in South Africa)

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#62 to #25 - taniv (12/15/2015) [-]

While that is wrong, the reverse is much worse. Now two wrongs don't make a right, but you have the median income of a white person in South Africa is 7-8 times that of a black person. In my opinion, I don't think Affirmative Action is an effective solution to that problem, but we can't really say that white people as a whole have it worse. Those individuals you know did get the ****** end of the stick there, but that's what kind of sucks about macro-scale policies effecting groups only related by skin colour. It's wrong, it really honestly is, I will not defend it or say it's justified, but I will say it's not as bad as the problems faced by other ethnicities; I mean, part of the reason for AA policies was to combat the fact that business owners wouldn't hire highly qualified black people, or Universities wouldn't accept them, because they'd worry about their image or because they themselves were racist.

tl;dr AA probably doesn't work, and if it doesn't I don't have the stats on it , then it brings down another group of people so that everyone has a ****** lot

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#8 to #7 - steamly (12/15/2015) [-]

The pic you used for that was so ******* perfect in so many ways. If it's Killgrave from Jessica Jones and not just Tenant.

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#61 to #8 - taniv (12/15/2015) [-]

look at his username. now look at your comment. now back to the username. now back to your comment. sadly, he wasn't referring to tenant, but if you stopped using lady's scented body wash and switched to Old Spice you could be as "charismatic" as Kilgrave

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#76 to #61 - steamly (12/15/2015) [-]

...I did not see that, thank you.

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#10 to #6 - hotpiss (12/15/2015) [-]

waaaaaaaaaah

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#15 to #6 - TheVertigo (12/15/2015) [-]

Man, I'm very heavily Native American and I didn't get any special treatement when getting into my local university. You knew what helped getting into it? Not being a ******* who said " **** grades" and did nothing to excell in school. Get your head out of your ass and into a book. Then maybe, just maybe, you can do something with your life.

I know you're probably some troll ********** and the American education system is garbage. But I just wanted to tell someone off. Eh. C'est la vie.

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#26 to #15 - salarius (12/15/2015) [-]

you can get scholarships for being native american though.....just saying.

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#80 to #26 - lujan ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]

Not much anymore, and it's only for certain schools and for certain majors and you have to be affiliated with certain tribes. I'm Native American and I didn't get **** . But I did get some merit scholarships.

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#33 to #15 - abesimpson (12/15/2015) [-]

"Doesn't matter if you do well in college or not"

He's talking about life after college, not before it.

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#34 - anon (12/15/2015) [-]

College professor: Everything must be properly sourced according to the version of APA guidelines they used in Honolulu in 2007. They're going to expect this from you in the workplace.

Boss: Is the information in your report correct? Good enough for me.

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#13 - splendiddust ONLINE (12/15/2015) [-]

College prof: How would you describe their project methodology?
Class: Chaotic, anarchic, lax
Prof: Well personally i would call it a *********** but whatever.

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#69 - asotil (12/15/2015) [-]

MS math teacher: Even though it's the correct answer I'm marking it wrong, I don't care you got it it needs to be done this exact overly complex and inefficient way I was taught in 1942

HS math teacher: If you don't understand basic Calculus, how to find the volume of a theoretical cylinder containing 6 triangles and cubes which may or may not exist, without a calculator and using a pen, you'll be a failure at life and never succeed

75 y/o College Trig teacher, first day of school: Unless you're going to be an engineer, this class is basically credits. Even if you're going to be an engineer you'll use this stuff maybe twice, or you can just tap it out onto a calculator and negate this entire process. Anyway, did you know that seniors with the rewards card can get 4 cups of Starbucks tea for the price of one? *An entire class long explanation of this process and why Green is superior to Chamomile in every way*

HFW he knows all my previous teachers are having a ******* conniption fit as he teaches us why every method they ever taught us was incorrect overcomplicated ********

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#73 to #69 - frenzyhero (12/15/2015) [-]

but green tea is superior

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#31 - abesimpson (12/15/2015) [-]

The material in high school is considerably easier than in college, but they can be more strict in class or correcting tests because they want to make sure you end up having good study habits.

In college the teachers can be more laid back because they know their students are adults who are there on their free will. But when the time comes for an exam you better have been studying instead of eating milkduds every day.

In other words, the difference is that in high school they are breathing on your neck, while in college they let you organize yourself. But don't be fooled that college is easier, it just means you had a worse time in HS.

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#35 to #31 - littlebigr (12/15/2015) [-]

Anyone who thinks college is easier is in for a reeaal surprise. I took two years at a community college, and that was extremely easy. Now i just finished my first semester at a major state university, and i'm just about ready to disintegrate from the stress. ****** intense man

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#36 to #35 - abesimpson (12/15/2015) [-]

I wish I was a bit wiser when I was 18 and learned to study at a good pace, just a little bit every day instead of cramming 3 weeks before the test. But everything is new and fun and it's easy to get distracted.

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#39 to #36 - littlebigr (12/15/2015) [-]

**** man, 3 weeks prior is cramming to you? I'm used to cramming the two days before the test
Then again, those were customs from the community college i used to go to... that does not come even remotely close to working at this new school

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#43 to #39 - abesimpson (12/15/2015) [-]

I study veterinary medicine. Tomorrow I have my last final which I've been dragging for a while now (and yet, here I am)

It's about health inspection and it's the biggest pain in the ass. Nothing in my career is hard "per se" but the subjects can be very lengthy. I shoudlve started 2 months ago but now is not the time to regret anything. Just going to hope they repeat some questions and not go overboard with the exercises.

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#52 - mathmanchris (12/15/2015) [-]

Pretty accurate though. From my experience, teachers in high school are much more likely to be assholes or very strict about stuff.
I've worked for a maths prof and he had this "oh **** it" attitude. This one time we had a student who failed her exam and he re-corrected my marking by giving her ~6% of total score so that she would pass and not come to see him and complain.

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#53 to #52 - anon (12/15/2015) [-]

that mostly because dudes in college are there for a reason
school kids are pure concentrated cancer for the most part

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#55 to #53 - mathmanchris (12/15/2015) [-]

Yep, true.

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#65 to #52 - stonetomcat (12/15/2015) [-]

GIF

When I was in high school, they gave pretty much no ***** .
Kindergarten was the strict year for me. One day, I was pushed off the swing in recess, and I was scolded for hogging the swing I was there for a minute. The kid who pushed me was on there for the other 29 minutes, and got nothing. Same day at lunch, I was hit in the face with a salad. Had some sort of disgusting dressing on it.
At the end of the day, we were singing "If you're happy and you know it clap your hands". I thought, as an American citizen with the right to opinions, I was allowed to be honest. I got put in time out for not clapping.
I think that's why I was a compulsive liar for the rest of elementary and middle school. Because the truth gets you in trouble.
Gif unrelated

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#46 - Deavas (12/15/2015) [-]

my professors dont say "yall" because theyre educated

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#17 - belikea (12/15/2015) [-]

I laughed...and then went to a final where the teaching team had laid out a table of baked goods

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#9 - brickfest (12/15/2015) [-]

that reminds me of that time one of our professors came with a pack of gummy bears and crossword... whoever knew the answer got a gummy bear

I love my college

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#70 - ruraidhri (12/15/2015) [-]

'The ***** a milkdud? Been to uni and never heard of it.

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#72 to #70 - OtisMcWonderful (12/15/2015) [-]

Lumps of chocolate covered caramel.

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#75 to #72 - ruraidhri (12/15/2015) [-]

Ah..

I thought it was some kind of drug. My bad.

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#82 - coolios (12/15/2015) [-]

... what the **** are milk duds they look like malteasers

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#77 - alpako (12/15/2015) [-]

**alpako used "*roll picture*"**
**alpako rolled image** heck if i know, im in high school.

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#74 - bhartigan (12/15/2015) [-]

Milk Dud? **** , if it wasn't on the syllabus we aint getting ****

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#63 - mooghens (12/15/2015) [-]

MS: Look kids this is the internet, use our Proprietary search engine (Which was ******* **** ) to find all the sources you need for your assignments
HS: Don't use wikipedia! It's full of errors and unconfirmed facts
College: **** it, just cite wikipedia and lets get ********* !

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#54 - mattdoggy (12/15/2015) [-]

My professor to give us a break for finals, in a level 5000 class, gave us a movie and candy bars.

College is a lot more like daycare than you'd imagine.

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#49 - goddamnwizard (12/15/2015) [-]

Drill Instructors: "you'll get your ass beaten in the fleet"
Combat instructors: "in the fleet, NCOs are different, you don't just approach them like you do us"
MOS school instructor: "the fleet is different. You don't just go and talk to NCOs"
Fleet NCO: "what's up Lance Corporal?! We getting drunk tonight or what?"
probably not like that in infantry tho Any Marine or navy bros here?

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#67 to #49 - lolollo (12/15/2015) [-]

Military is a different beast, though. Often times what'll happen is you'll join at the same time as someone, and one of you will get promoted to E-5 first. It might go further that that based on career plans and intentions. It's a real test of character whether or not you're the sort of person to look at a colleague who's now formally lower than you and act like a hardass with them.