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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#1 - eunneland [OP]
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#84 to #1 - kolokainte
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lol what a ********
#246 to #84 - likeabox
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Why is he a '*********?
#417 to #246 - anon id: ffba4dc6
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are you stupid or something?
#276 to #1 - utarefson
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#121 to #1 - elmoose **User deleted account**
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he should have cooked meth
he should have cooked meth
User avatar #318 to #121 - jari
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Maybe he is.
User avatar #3 to #1 - lodisboeg
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From Wikipedia:
"He attended the technical secondary school Escuela Nacional de Educación Técnica N° 27 Hipólito Yrigoyen and graduated with a chemical technician's diploma"

A diploma from a secondary school is not a Master's Degree last time I looked.
User avatar #260 to #3 - yuukoku
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He has an ample understanding of science and that's what counts.
#214 to #3 - SILENCEnight
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**SILENCEnight rolled a random image posted in comment #24 at You are not Entitled for this title ** At least he believes in science.
#374 to #214 - masculino
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Nobody expect the Søren Ryge inquisition!
#239 to #3 - lildap
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Still sounds pretty damn good
#418 to #3 - anon id: ffba4dc6
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lol you dumb ****
User avatar #293 to #3 - stcronin
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"Before joining the priesthood, Bergoglio obtained a masters degree in chemistry from Buenos Aires University."
#259 to #3 - yuukoku
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#81 to #3 - anon id: f83eb17b
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Information from wikipedia isn't absolute last time I checked
#50 to #3 - anon id: 830b5c2b
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look again
#9 to #3 - anon id: e8daf3f1
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wikipedia is not a very good source the last time i looked
User avatar #10 to #9 - lodisboeg
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Well, here is Wikipedia's source:
You need to login to view this link
".va" is the Vatican's domain, so I guess that is a pretty reliable source when it comes to the pope. Feel free to crosscheck.
User avatar #68 to #9 - grimsho
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You haven't looked in a long time.
#6 - I Am Monkey
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#2 - anon id: c8903321
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lol open your eyes and get your dick out of that children, popefag
#287 to #2 - anon id: c9f8b797
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User avatar #329 to #2 - niggernazi
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i laughed
#176 to #2 - disasterbater
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As much as this is unnecessary, i still think "popefag" is semi-funny.
#311 to #2 - aleeyam
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#169 to #2 - snowshark
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User avatar #7 to #2 - I Am Monkey
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3edgy5me
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3edgy5you? haha faggot
4edgy6me
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(x)edgy(x+2)me
#168 to #15 - jmillenium
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Given that x is greater than or equal to 2.
#274 to #168 - jmillenium
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I see FJ doesn't approve of math jokes.
Or at least the bad ones.
User avatar #70 to #15 - nigeltheoutlaw
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I thought it was (x)edgy(x^2)me ?
User avatar #92 to #70 - opticmonkey
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3^2=5...?
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#91 - doctorprofessornv
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#106 to #91 - anon id: 6fc45426
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Considering that he excommunicated an Australian priest for endorsing female priests...

No.
User avatar #142 to #106 - apurpleliger
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If a Catholic priest is publicly going against Catholic dogma, what defense does he have against being excommunicated? Catholicism doesn't allow women to be priests, and "fired" someone who broke his vows to upheld and spread the Catholic faith? Oh the horror!
User avatar #125 to #106 - reginleif
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Let's disregard someone's positive traits because he doesn't abide by ALL my personal beliefs.

Because we don't all end up with unreasonable standards, and a world full of people who we feel are assholes.
User avatar #167 to #106 - rocksteady
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this anon is mentally retarded
User avatar #196 to #91 - merrymarvelite
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Well, he does seem less... you know... evil... than the last guy.
#218 to #91 - anon id: 9e3ee467
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yes
User avatar #302 to #91 - zahnrad
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Agnostic, but yes. I follow.
#331 to #91 - anonymoose
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User avatar #341 to #91 - monkeysniper
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Yep, I'm atheist and I love the new pope, rather than say we're condemned or something he's the way he is and I can respect him greatly
#326 to #91 - nextnextnextnext
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I like him, but he's just a single person, and a single person, doesn't matter how nice, isn't the whole church.

If he manages to actually change something about the church I'll respect him, I'm speaking things like removing celibate.

He is a decent guy - and the fact that being a decent guy is enough to be such an improvement over Palpatine speaks for itself.

For example acknowledging the fact that you don't need to believe in God to be a good person - doing it isn't anything special. You'd expect to hear it from any good-willed human being with IQ>75. But the church got us used to hearing things like "Hurrr durrr, atheists are unredeemable sinners" medieval ******** so when the pope turns out to be a logical guy everybody flips their ****.

The one thing I truly admire about the pope is his modesty, he's basically trolling the bishops from my country who have no shame about their wealth.

TL;DR The pope gains good publicity by simply avoiding being a cunt and I don't loathe believers just because they believe it's the most retarded thing that both 'sides' do , so yes, I like the new pope.
User avatar #100 to #91 - therealdiscord
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He's alright.
He's at least a good person.
User avatar #164 to #91 - thebestpieever
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I am not a cristian, but I really liked John Paul 2 and I kind of like this dude.
#200 to #91 - TCRCPRODUCTIONS
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I am an atheist raised catholic, still am in fact. I do like the new pope, he is a huge improvement over Benedict. Although, just because he is a good guy doesn't change my paradigm.
#205 to #200 - arkfire
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How are you a catholic if you don't believe in God?
#221 to #205 - anon id: b7d192e4
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...he said he was raised catholic but is now an atheist
#211 to #205 - TCRCPRODUCTIONS
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Sorry that wording may seem confusing. I mean i still am an atheist and i am also still being raised catholic. I am sent to private catholic schooling and have since 4th grade. Although being sent to catholic schools and having to take 16 semesters worth of religion classes while being a critical thinker has made me an atheist.
Sorry that wording may seem confusing. I mean i still am an atheist and i am also still being raised catholic. I am sent to private catholic schooling and have since 4th grade. Although being sent to catholic schools and having to take 16 semesters worth of religion classes while being a critical thinker has made me an atheist.
#265 to #91 - killinkyle
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I like him. I think Religion is a powerful tool when used correctly, and can unite people together towards advancement and enlightenment, as well as give people hope and a sense of control over life which can lead them to live successful lives as productive members of society.

This pope only refines those goals and seems to be a major help in them- Tackling issues that only harm people and slow the progress of people as a whole.

You don't have to believe in god to realize that under the right hands it can be a game changer in the world as we know it.
#172 to #91 - xgrandmoffx
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Agnostic, raised Catholic reporting in.

Running diagnostic scans.

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Pope Francis checking out as this guy.
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User avatar #191 to #172 - shiifter
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Ah, agnosticism. The path of logic.
User avatar #251 to #191 - pkashp
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Indeed. I can't prove there is a God (or Cthulu) and I can't prove there isn't a God (or Cthulu).

Personally though, if there is some kind of higher power, I don't believe it's a single entity. It sounds silly to say I believe in The Force, but that's the closest thing to what I think it actually is.
#310 to #251 - infinitesinz
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Silly non-Eywa follower (Avatar reference), I hope I spelled that right.
User avatar #400 to #251 - fathis
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not at all... I believe in energy, everyone has it, it's either bad or good and can be changed and exchanged... the more good things you do, the more you emanate, people feel it, it's like a sixth sense i believe ;)
#330 to #251 - anon id: de807ff5
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But by that reasoning, I don't think you can't prove anything.
User avatar #271 to #251 - newforomador
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Belief in more than one god is Polytheism. The most common form of Polytheism nowadays is Paganism. I am a Pagan and do believe that there are multiple gods. Wanna have a religious conversation tomorrow at least, because I am about to go bed.
User avatar #389 to #191 - rennat
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Well, Agnosticism answers a different question. Can we know if there is or isn't a God? Agnostic. Do you think there is a God? Atheist/Christian/All them others.
#340 to #172 - fffffffuuuuuuuuuuu
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This man taught me that I was, in fact, agnostic.
You should watch BigThink, interesting stuff on there.
#73 - fzbarbeque
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Is the Pope perfect? No, of course not, but he is moving the Church in the right direction and is a major improvement over Benedict.
User avatar #294 to #73 - stcronin
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The church has always believed this though, he hasn't changed anything so far
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User avatar #447 to #434 - stcronin
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Thats not true at all
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whats not true about it and i will gladly correct it i dont really know much about the topic
User avatar #449 to #448 - stcronin
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"the church even goes against him on it" The church for a very long time have believed in everything the pope has said. He isn't changing our views on beliefs at all he is just restating them. Plus he is more accountable and getting more done. But as far as faith he is following what has been said for 2000 years
User avatar #450 to #449 - quotes
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well look its 2am im tired i cant sleep and im coughing a lot so im not in the mood to debate with you
i dont want to look and try and find the source of what i said so ill assume i was wrong
thanks for correcting me ill have to look more into it some other time
also im taking down my other comment
User avatar #451 to #450 - stcronin
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Well goodnight sir. Many people have misinformation its okay Or they read the information incorrectly and assume things, but this is for another time.
User avatar #452 to #451 - quotes
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its based on something that happened a while ago its not worth much and its probably changed even if it was true origionally cya around
User avatar #453 to #452 - cya
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you have an interesting username
User avatar #454 to #453 - quotes
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you do as well
User avatar #459 to #454 - cya
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thanks (:
User avatar #319 to #73 - daentraya
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He seems to be a good guy. The major flaws he still have seems to be bound in the religion he believes in, so he believes he believe the right thing, but beyond that, he seems humble and such
Also, he uses twitter.
I find this fact utterly hilarious.
User avatar #328 to #73 - thekame
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but Benedict saved us against Hitler, how can you improve upon that?
#93 to #73 - bobfaget
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Church doctrine never changed. He's just restating what we already believed.
User avatar #131 to #93 - iamnuff
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well, the old pope would disagree with you.


diffrent people and diffrent preists have diffrent views on stuff like this, but the previous pope's official stance was

non-Christians burn in hell, no contraceptives, people in Africa shouldn't use condoms to prevent the spread of aids, no abortions and defending child-molesters (not a joke, he actually said for years that it never happend, then when it was proven, he said he would "forgive" them, and so should everyone else.)
User avatar #247 to #131 - rockamekishiko
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me and all my family are christians. my best friend is atheist i don't think he would go to hell. he's a good person. I've always believed that your actions are what save you, not your beliefs
User avatar #416 to #247 - iamnuff
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that's nice I guess.


Completely besides the point though.


lots of Christians believe like you do, and some believe completely different things

but the official stance of the Catholic Church is whatever the current pope says it is.

Benedict (the previous one) held all the views that I have just mentioned, Thus, they were the official views of the Catholic Church.
#422 to #416 - bobfaget
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This is actually 100% false. Well, 80% false haha Church teachings don't change. Its just a matter of what the Pope brings out to the media. I would like you to find one quote in which Pop Benedict said that non-Christians should burn in hell. He never said that, nor would he say something of the sort. All Catholics, at least the practicing ones, believe contraceptives are wrong. All Catholics, including Francis, would believe that condoms are bad, they prevent the miracle of child birth. Pope Francis would also say to forgive the child molesters, I'm not sure why Benedict didn't excommunicate those priests right away, but he didn't. Also, Benedict is more of a philosopher. He specialized in what is called "Platonic" philosophy. So he was more of a "Sit in the office and write letters" kind of guy. Francis is more of a Jesuit, and a Jesuit will go out and try to help the poor. So he's more of a "In your face" kind of guy. He is also using social media very well to his advantage. But he gets taken out of context sometimes. Yes, atheists can go to heaven. Benedict never said they couldn't. Its just much more difficult because you won't really know how to live correctly according to Church teaching. That's the basics of it, but all Popes most certainly believe in forgiveness. Like Pope John Paul the Second said, the Church isn't filled with perfect people, it is more of a hospital for the spiritually hurt and the sinners.
User avatar #423 to #422 - iamnuff
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hmm. nope.


the stance of the catholic church has changes dozens of times on the same issues, every time a new pope comes in.

#424 to #423 - bobfaget
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Please name some haha It doesn't change. Doctrine doesn't change. The last time we really altered the Church was Vatican 2 which was in the 60's. And that only changed the way we celebrated mass. The changes you are probably referring to are very miniscule. The Church doesn't really change its views. And it probably never will since they've been the same for 2000 years...
User avatar #425 to #424 - iamnuff
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"Doctrine doesn't change"


so the pope still advocates burning witches and stoning gays?
#426 to #425 - bobfaget
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Haha he never did. That was protestant stuff along with single priests in that area. But there was never Church doctrine that said "Hey, if you see any witches make sure you kill them. Especially the gay ones." We are a religion of sinners. We don't kill people because they mess around with toads.
#427 to #426 - iamnuff
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Something tells me you don't know your religion as well as you think you do.

#428 to #427 - bobfaget
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I never said there were bad popes haha Like I said before there are sinners in the Church, such as the molesting priests, but we never claimed to be perfect. We just follow a set of laws that Jesus basically spelled out for us. Again, I don't see any doctrine saying to kill someone because of their religion or something. The people in the Church have flaws. The morals, catechism, and doctrine are all correct.
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"all popes believe the same things, their views never changed"

"there were some bad popes"


******* pick one.
#430 to #429 - bobfaget
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You're not understanding what I'm saying. Okay, so there were bad popes okay? They cannot change Church doctrine without the Bishops of the world coming together. The Church was at one point corrupt. That was before the protestant reformation. As far as being the religious leader, they believe all the same things. They believe that gay marriage is wrong, they believe atheism is wrong, however, and you could literally ask any pope this with the exception of like 2 of the bad ones, and they would all say that an atheist person could go to heaven. They would all say abortion is bad. Abortion is not a new subject in the Church, it has been around since the beginning. The Church has always been against it. So when I say they believe the same things I mean as far as doctrine goes, with the exception of like 2 as I said before, they were not all holy men. But saying that Pope Benedict hated gays, and saying that Pope Francis thinks that being in a gay marriage is perfectly fine is 100% wrong. They both believe that it is fine to be gay, however practicing gay tendencies is wrong. Am I making any sense to you?
User avatar #431 to #430 - iamnuff
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the pope doesn't "change" church docterine, he completely changes it.

which is why the standards of christianity have changed so much, and some of the more ... shall we say "socially unacceptable" parts from the bible are politely ignored.


like the ones about burning witches, or stoning gays, or whipping disobedient children, or executing people who work on the sabath and all the passages about slavery.


don't you sit there and say the stance of the catholic church has never changed, that just makes you sound ignorant about your own religion.
#432 to #431 - bobfaget
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It doesn't change hahaha Its funny that you are trying to make me sound stupid when you yourself cannot find any flaws in what I am saying. Please cite one thing. All that stuff about the witches or whatever took place in Spain. I assume you are referring to the Spanish inquisition btw. Even then, there was nothing in the Church's Canon law that said it was okay. People thought they were doing God's work by killing gays and "Witches." I don't recall anywhere in history about Catholics stoning people who work Sunday.. Whipping disobedient children huh? Protestant one room school houses back in the 1800's are notorious for that. Sure there were mean Nuns who would smack kids with rulers, but that wasn't in Church doctrine.. That was just a was to discipline.. I think there is one passage in the bible about slavery.. And it just says to be obedient. Actually the Catholic Church has always been against slavery. Look up when the Spanish came to America and enslaved all those people. Catholic missionaries tried to stop it, and also set up schools for the indigenous people. It didn't change, and you still haven't proven anything. You're the one sounding stupid here buddy.
User avatar #433 to #432 - iamnuff
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umm, no. i was referring to the Catholic Church Doctrine, and passages taken directly from the bible.

exactly like i said i was.

listen, if you don't have any way to refute what i'm saying, then thats fine, admit that you were wrong, saying "you can't poke flaws in this" when I obviously just did, just makes you sound like you don't know your own religion.

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

shall I go on?

yes, most of these quotes are from old testament, but jesus himself said it stil applies, thus until the last couple of hundred years, the church still supported murdering gays and people of the wrong religion.

rape victims and babies who cry too loud, ect ect ect.

#440 to #433 - bobfaget
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Is that so? Do you also believe that Catholics shouldn't eat pork? Do you think that we celebrate passover every year? According to you it still applies. Its funny how you refer to Jesus but fail to realize that he brought mercy to the world. He was actually friends with the tax collectors, which at the time, were about as bad as it got. He forgives prostitutes. Did Jesus seem like a man of hatred to you? That is a very protestant way of looking at things, and if I were Lutheran I would probably have to agree with you. Many of the laws of the Old Testament don't apply to Catholics anymore. Actually if you look at the Old Testament you will see a great deal of violence. And it makes sense if you look at the time period. The people then were very barbaric, and having a strong army would do wonders for a country. Especially a nomadic one like Moses in the desert. Anyway, I will not deny that the Bible says that. If anyone knows about the law of the Jews its the early Christian. Look at Stephen the Deacon, he was stoned for preaching Christianity. Also, if you look at the Muslim religion, they actually send Jehads at the Christians long before the Crusades. Even then, only the first Crusade was commissioned by the Pope. I just think it is weird that you are trying to say the religion that supports the lives of unborn babies hates gays and "Witches." Have you ever actually looked at a Catechism?
User avatar #441 to #440 - iamnuff
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yes, because i said all these things still apply. that was my point.


oh wait, no it was exactly the opposite.

my point was that church doctrine has changed dozens of times, as easily evidenced by the fact that the church can no longer get away with endorsing things like murder of gays.



don't try and move the goalposts, you were wrong,
#458 to #441 - bobfaget
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Alright, we'll call it quits. Interesting arguing with you sir.
#456 to #441 - bobfaget
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If you are suggesting that we never added onto our doctrine you would be 100% false. The religion does grow. We never had backtracking.

I would like to know some of these things, and please cite church doctrine that said to do that. Like idk, the Catechism. Or any other canon law or Dogma. Islam is much much much different that Catholicism. The only thing we believe in together is the same God, but even then Islam has a totally different stance on who that God is. The only way the stance of the Church changed is if we added something to it. But that is just to explains something mostly. Did the early Christians kill gays? No! I honestly don't know where you get this stuff from, but your original argument that says the Church changes with the Pope is false. All the Doctrine stays the same unless some council adds something to it. Like the First Council of Nicaea or the Council of Constantinople, more recently the Second Vatican Council. During these councils, we add to the doctrine, but never take away.
User avatar #457 to #456 - iamnuff
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so if you "never took away" then how do you explain all those parts that used to apply and don't anymore?

because it ******* looks like they were taken away to me!

"did early Christians kill gays, no!"

ok, that settles it, you either have no idea what your own religion has done/condoned in the past, or you are just trolling me now.

either way, theres nothing to be gained from continuing this.
#446 to #441 - bobfaget
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What do you mean everything applies or it doesn't? Yeah the Church changed, I will admit that. But not in the way you think. Our teachings have grown, but never have backtracked. Yeah, we believe in the God of the Jews, but we don't believe in killing gay people. That's a dumb argument you are making.
User avatar #455 to #446 - iamnuff
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you yourself said that your religion's teachings have changed, but they haven't "grown" that would imply ADDING something, not removing it.

thats the very deffinition of backtracking.


things used to be said by the pope, and by priests during mass, which are no longer culturally acceptable, so they don't say them any more.

the Church Stance has changed with the times.
it had to, if it didn't then we would still be living by the Catholic equivalent of sharia law.
#444 to #441 - bobfaget
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No goal posts were moved haha Actually the doctrine never changed. To be exact, they built on each other. We never agreed on doctrine and then took it away. We never had doctrine that said killing gays was okay. That's a very literal sense of the bible you are taking, and the Church never said that the killing of gays was okay. Maybe in Jewish law it was okay, but actually a lot of Jewish laws never carried into Christianity. Just think, do you really think that Jesus would have wanted us to kill gays? Probably not. He was actually a very merciful person. Also, you have failed to point out any dogma or doctrine that the Church put out saying that we should kill gays.. Probably because it doesn't exist. Even Martin Luther, the guy that was fed up with the Church, still called himself Catholic till his death.
User avatar #445 to #444 - iamnuff
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either everything still applies, or it doesn't.


either things changed or they didn't.


make up your mind.
User avatar #134 - I Am Monkey
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I just read in the news today that he found out a German Bishop was living in a multi-million dollar mansion and he suspended him and turned it into a soup kitchen/refugee center.
By God can this man Pope.
#157 to #134 - avarius
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do you mean this scum? if so, the pope just suspended him apparently
I'd prefer your version though
#308 to #157 - breekibree
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I'm from Germany and I can confirm that. His Name is Franz-Peter Tebartz van Elst. He build himself a 31 Million Euro mansion and the construction is currently on delay, because the pope is discussing the oppertunities they can turn that thing into. Many catholics are upset here, because they now really see what their "churchmoney" is used for.
#320 to #308 - tesarrior
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that is the most punchable face i ever seen in my life.. jesus penus
that is the most punchable face i ever seen in my life.. jesus penus
#335 to #308 - futtef
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his personal bathtub alone costs 15.000 €.
User avatar #376 to #335 - trivdiego
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15 dollars seems pretty cheap for a bathtub. wait dont you guys use periods instead of commas over there?
#268 to #157 - worried
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#43 - arnoldbusk
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That's because they want you to think he is a good guy. After people realized the church were bad guys, they made sure to make their new mascot likeable. Idiots
User avatar #51 to #43 - mechaemperor
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Indeed. It's a market, they want to cater to young people.
User avatar #44 to #43 - TheHutchie
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Didn't he say that homosexuality was okay? Or am I making that up?
User avatar #47 to #44 - nylak
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No, he didn't. He said he won't "judge" gay priests, as long as they do not act on their sexuality, and admit that it is a sin to be homosexual and work to better themselves in the eyes of the lord by renouncing their previous lifestyles.

So, he basically said it's fine to be gay, as long as you stop being gay.
#74 to #47 - Berzer
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you are half right. His quote was "who am I to judge" in regards to gay priests who search for God with all their hearts. However what you have wrong is that it is a "sin to be homosexual" he is on record saying, and is even mentioned in Catholic doctrine, that being homosexual is not a sin. it is acting on homosexual thoughts that is the sin. So in other words, Being a guy and liking other guys romantically is ok, but having sex with those guys is bad. Its the same view really that they have for sex out of wedlock.
User avatar #153 to #74 - nylak
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But it's also impossible, in the eyes of the Catholic church, for gay couples to marry.

Soooo.
#165 to #153 - Berzer
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Well yes, but that is a completely different argument from the one you had posed in your previous comment. The Catholic church's views on gay marriage are due to its position as a Christian denomination. And as with many other Christian Denominations, while they believe that homosexuals should be treated with love and kindness, they view a union of that kind to be sinful.
User avatar #180 to #165 - nylak
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Well, that's precisely what I'm saying in response to your previous comment. You can't exactly use, "Well, any sort of premarital sex is a sin, so clearly homosexual sex is a sin, and that's not showing bias at all!" as a defense if you don't allow homosexual couples to marry.

If you allowed fags to legally shack up as a married couple and ****, then you can rag at them all you want for ******* without being married. Otherwise, it's not a defense.

Either way, the bottom line is that the current pope, like every other pope before him, does not condone homosexual relationships, and actively fights to suppress the basic human rights of homosexual couples and individuals (which is not at all unusual for the Catholic faith). It's aggravating when people think that he does, and praise him for being so open, loving and accepting. That's literally all that I'm saying.
User avatar #48 to #47 - TheHutchie
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Well that's not very nice at all. Now we don't even think he is a good guy.
User avatar #52 to #48 - nylak
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I'll admit that he is not the worst pope ever. He has done a lot of extension work, and is familiar with doing the dirty work in terms of charity that most high-tiered religious figures won't stoop to, including getting out on the streets himself and helping people directly. He's certainly more down to earth than a lot of folks that take up shop in the Vatican.

However, since I'm gay myself, I still don't like him. And yes, he was the pope that said that allowing homosexual couples to adopt children was a form of child abuse/discrimination against children, and was among the movement that claimed that it was better for all orphaned children to continue to live their childhoods out in an orphanage or foster care than to risk one child being potentially adopted by a homosexual couple. I love me some radical Catholics.
#83 to #52 - christianthejew
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The pope said that the adoption of kids by gay couples is child abuse? since when does the catholic church know anything about child abuse?   
   
wait..
The pope said that the adoption of kids by gay couples is child abuse? since when does the catholic church know anything about child abuse?

wait..
#59 to #47 - chancevance
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It's not okay at all.

IT's okay but you have to change.

It's okay but you should change.

Meh.

Let's hope we get to stage four soon. I'm not even gay but have friends who are.
#266 to #47 - worried
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well, he said not to act on their impulses not because of them being gay, but because when you take up the cloth, you take a vow of abstinence... same sex or otherwise
#94 to #47 - applescryatnight
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i mean, if you are a priest, you arent supposed to act on your sexuality in any way.
last i checked, priests arent allowed to have straight or gay stuff.
User avatar #161 to #94 - nylak
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But at least "heterosexual" priests don't have to renounce any previous lovers and publicly admit that loving them was an abomination in the eye of their faith, even if they were previously in a long-term, committed, monogamous relationship with that individual and had a family with them. They just have to stop ******* them.

...Or, at least they have to stop ******* them publicly.
User avatar #90 to #47 - beefymuffin
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thats not how he said it though...
#71 to #47 - therobsorensen
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But he's also said to show love and compassion to everyone including homosexuals. I think there is a Bible verse that says something along the lines of "Love the sinner. Hate the sin." Which really should be the cornerstone of Christianity, and I think that is what the new pope is going for.
User avatar #158 to #71 - nylak
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Which is fine, which is why I also said in a comment down there that he isn't any worse than any other pope we've had recently. It's just a Catholic thing, which we've come to accept.

It's still not ideal that he's considering homosexuality a sin that needs admonishment and begrudging "acceptance," while also fighting tooth and nail to deny homosexual couples basic human rights that heterosexual couples are granted without hesitation.
User avatar #127 to #44 - Crusader
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Yes, no kind of, nylak is right, but he has also said stuff closer to "no matter you religion, sexuality, etc as long as you are a good person, I will not judge you, and you are not likely to be condemned by god" that of course is paraphrasing.
#45 to #44 - nottoointeresting
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Nope, Isnt he the one that fought agasint gays in Brazil being able to adopt. I thought that was him.
User avatar #46 to #45 - TheHutchie
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Man **** it, we clearly don't know enough about the guy to make an intelligent observation.

arnoldbusk, I take it you do not personally know the new pope, do you?
#219 to #43 - anon id: 604a3f2d
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Calm down, achmed.
User avatar #56 to #43 - sketchE
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hey your still around
User avatar #62 to #43 - hudis
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That'd be a valid point if the Church didn't protest every time he said something less traditionally catholic than previous popes.
#107 - theluppijackal
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Amazing, it's almost like he's representing christinaity more appropriately
User avatar #327 to #107 - seratyo
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The Pope is the head of the Catholic church, buddy...
#110 to #107 - houseofwolf
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Thumbed for the ******* Bokuman pic...
User avatar #111 to #110 - theluppijackal
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Bakuman*
But thank you, you have excellent taste friend
#113 to #111 - houseofwolf
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Bakuman... Jesus christ how tired am I right now?!
User avatar #366 to #110 - kabasta
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DON'T WATCH AN ANIME LABLED BOKU. DON'T DO IT ***** !
BOKU.wmv (original)
#392 to #366 - anon id: 1982b38d
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boku wa tomodachi ga sukunai, go watch it
#248 to #107 - drizztrocks
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He represents Catholicism not Christianity, I am prepared to be thumbed down.
#166 - synthesised
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#184 - kaslin
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I'm an Atheist and I'm down with this new pope. I may not agree with everything the Catholic Church does or stand for, but this guy is alright.   
MFW new pope is dope
I'm an Atheist and I'm down with this new pope. I may not agree with everything the Catholic Church does or stand for, but this guy is alright.
MFW new pope is dope