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User avatar #1 - muffincannibal (12/17/2015) [-]
Hot lady should be watching out for extremist wanting 'revenge' on her for saying such things.
#179 to #1 - anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Thank you muffincannibal for spreading awareness.

- Isis and confederation of bloody islam leaders of the world
User avatar #163 to #1 - captainprincess ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
especially those in american universities
User avatar #184 to #163 - elcreepo (12/18/2015) [-]
Most of the people on this site are from American universities...

It's really a very loud, obnoxious minority being all "hurr murrica bad terrorists r gud peple an I'm a vegan"
User avatar #200 to #184 - captainprincess ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-]
I didnt say anything about majority or minority though
thats just you being needlessly aggressive in identifying with the accused
User avatar #203 to #200 - elcreepo (12/19/2015) [-]
You said especially.

As if it's a far worse problem in American universities than anywhere else where young people tend to congregate, and as if only people who attend American universities think this way.

Most of the people on FJ come from American universities and are blatantly opposed to that kind of behavior, and that's all I was pointing out.

Not my fault you interpreted it as being aggressive.
User avatar #204 to #203 - captainprincess ONLINE (12/19/2015) [-]
And yet here you are
willingly taking upon the claim yourself, as though you identify with those people being mentioned

perhaps even just so you had an excuse to get huffy
User avatar #205 to #204 - elcreepo (12/19/2015) [-]
I identify with being an American college student.

And you are an insufferable eurofag.
User avatar #206 to #205 - captainprincess ONLINE (12/19/2015) [-]
oo spicy
User avatar #141 to #1 - advice (12/17/2015) [-]
hot lady should have security guards that "hopefully" aren't like that
#7 to #1 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
Yeah the US might stop giving BGM-71 TOWs to jihadists in Syria.
User avatar #185 to #7 - elcreepo (12/18/2015) [-]
Haven't done that since Bush did it once. It's been ten years now.
User avatar #2 to #1 - praemium (12/17/2015) [-]
It is a shame when "moderate" Muslims speak as if the "extremists" are just a fringe, when as soon as a reformer shows up, he or she is being shunned away by both factions.
#126 to #2 - fragman (12/17/2015) [-]
Which is why the concentric circle model that I think was mentioned by Maajid Nawaz and Sam Harris holds true. The one that caused Ben Affleck to ultimately show his unbound ignorance.
Imagine a set of concentric circles which represent Muslims. At the center you have Jihadists, spreading the ******** by the sword. The next layer is Islamists, people who want to spread Islam without violence but rather subterfuge and infiltration of policy makers. Those, according to Sam are about 20% of Muslims. Next you have conservative Muslims, who wouldn't want reform because forcing their 12 year old daughters to wear a hijab is a great idea. Those 3 groups are essentially fundamentists. And that's not an "extremist fringe", it's a majority.

This is why Islam (as it is practiced today) is a ******* problem when introduced into the western world.
#176 to #126 - anon (12/18/2015) [-]
Sam Harris is dumb ass who speaks out of his ass. Whenever someone asks him to back his **** up he goes on a tangent.
#156 to #126 - jujuface (12/17/2015) [-]
fundamentalists*

Can you cite those stats? Never heard of Sam Harris but his argument seems interesting. I wonder if it's considering that most muslims that move into the west are those that want to reform? I wonder what's the percentage of muslims in the west that actually wear hijabs?
User avatar #138 to #126 - praemium (12/17/2015) [-]
Very well written and also true. Good use of reference, Maajid Nawaz was the one I had in mind. We should demand Islam and Muslim reform, or else.
We ought to be careful, though, we don't want to discourage Muslims to do so by hating all of them. So often is the doctrine of Taqiyya brought up by flat out bigots, when a brown person says something anti-Islam and pro-Western, people who just have distrust of any kind of Muslim. I will grant people like Nawaz, Ed Husain and the Quilliam Foundation and the Kurds the benefit of doubt, I wholeheartedly believe them when they try to change the image of Muslims and Islam.
User avatar #13 to #2 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Nobody likes change, even if they aren't guilty of any wrongdoing. Give it time.
User avatar #16 to #13 - praemium (12/17/2015) [-]
How much time do we have, Mr. Shiny? We need to speed it up. Nuclear wars and powerful missiles are in the mix, as is economy. We have been discussing this question of modernizing and reforming Islam in Europe since the 90's, already then it was a problem. There are plenty of Muslim reformers or atheists from Muslim families who speak from experience and from their hearts. We don't want a race or religious war in Europe nor a famine and inflation caused by sudden overpopulation.
User avatar #18 to #16 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
...what? I'm just talking about church reform in Islam. It wasn't a statement on global current events.
User avatar #55 to #18 - thatoneiranianguy ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Which is inherently intertwined with global politics...
#66 to #55 - psycochildz (12/17/2015) [-]
The issue with middle eastern extremism has nothing to due with the dominant religion, it's the political instability and lack of education.

1500 years ago Europe went through the same thing, the reason why was the fall of the roman empire. A massive centralized government collapsing and leaving all the regions to them self caused inner turmoil and violence towards each other and other countries.

Point is, the fall of the ottoman empire in the early 20th century is causing the same effect on the middle east. The decentralization of government has paved way towards corruption and violence. And it might for awhile.

I wouldn't be wary of a person based on their religion, especially in this case. It's a problem with education and lack of stability, NOT religion.
User avatar #95 to #66 - thatoneiranianguy ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Well sure it's a problem with education and lack stability but religious dogma is intertwined within the issues no matter how much you want to spin it.

The Middle East has been destabilizing in different regions ever since the fall off the Ottoman Empire (mainly as a result after WWI, there's a good book on this I just can't remember what it's called,) however to suggest that cultural and religious problems already present within the Middle East itself hasn't found a forefront in the conflict of control for itself is naive as traditionalist dogma and Islam radicalism has found its way to power due to the fall of strong secular governments in the middle east. Which is exactly what's going on in Syria - destabilization with a secular and religious front - both of which are all on different sides (government v. rebels) who all fight each other internally.

It's convoluted and ******* stupid, yes, but religion is much of an issue as the bigger picture is.
#130 to #95 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
Couldn't you say this about any kind of similar situation, though? The church has always stepped in to fill the state's gaps in power. So education and quality of life are useful in reducing fundamentalist influence.
#113 to #95 - psycochildz (12/17/2015) [-]
Haha, misread your post, sorry.

So, I really can't argue that now that i read it closely. Unless I go bigger picture about "Religion is only a tool to control people" type of philosophy, which is madly apparent in secular governments. But regardless, the Ottoman's secular laws throughout its entire history is a massive contributor to this. So, I'll be man enough to admit that you're right on that part.
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#108 to #66 - hecknuts (12/17/2015) [-]
Yes, Any Nation irrespective of caste, creed, Religion, Race when pursues Education and Health standouts from other Nations.
User avatar #125 to #55 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
A lot of things are, that doesn't mean I can't talk about one thing in particular.
User avatar #202 to #18 - reform (12/18/2015) [-]
I'm sick of people talking about me behind my back
#59 to #2 - allahrules (12/17/2015) [-]
Don't fix what aint broke. It's really that simple there isn't anything wrong with Islam. Just because some idiots pop up and start using Islam as an excuse for their murder doesn't mean Islam needs to be reformed. People with a similiar mindset have existed almost throughout the entirety of lslams history, but that they've always been that just a small sect of people who **** around. If there was a central Islamic power (as their should be) that works for the welfare and protection of islam and it's believers (as there once was caliphate is what it's called) idiots like isis, hizbullah, and all those murdering bastards would have gotten whats coming to them before this starts. Islam forbids the actions of these people, they aren't extremists they're just murderers, thieves, and rapists who finally got an excuse to do what they wanted. Islam doesn't need any kind of reform it needs the stability and community it once had. Post #12 gives a good example of why stuff like this happens, when countries become unstable and suddenly a minority of people, or a group of people with an unsustainable ideology are put into power the **** just hits the fan.
#73 to #59 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
Says there isn't anything wrong with islam, I distictly remember reading about mohammed appearing as a tree and telling someone "there is a jew behind me, kill it, kill the jew." Thats a religion of peace if I ever saw one.
#75 to #73 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
This guy reads the quran...
#74 to #73 - allahrules (12/17/2015) [-]
nope. no source means no proof,
#12 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Society and culture were rapidly modernizing in some Middle East countries, with the biggest cities being rather avant-garde, until Islamic revolutions set things back another half millennium. These regimes were very heavily protested at the beginning, but managed to stay in power through the same authoritarian indignity of human rights that turned people against the old leaders to begin with.

Iran's in particular was caused by the US and UK replacing Iran's neutral-but-not-really king with his pro-Allied son during World War II, a quick and dirty attempt to cut the Nazis off from the oil industry. Sounds fine, right? After the war ended, however, Iran democratically elected a new Prime Minister that decided to nationalize the oil industry to help the country become economically self-sufficient, which the Western powers didn't like, so the CIA and MI6 (presumably while James Bond plowed some powerful figures' cute daughters) organized another overthrow and once again put the Shah in power. Even though he was secularist, he was still a huge asshole that abused civil rights and basically let America and Britain do whatever they want, so what the common citizen wanted more than anything was freedom from corruption, giving the Islamic ultraconservative sect an opening to appeal to the masses, going as far as garnering support from Iran's leftist political groups that just wanted the oil cocksnots to leave, which turned out real well for them.

User avatar #17 to #12 - skumbaner (12/17/2015) [-]
This sounds intriguing. Do you have something more like that to share?
#58 to #17 - tanitakavirius (12/17/2015) [-]
Yes.
- Chile 1973 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d'%C3%A9tat US special forces helped Pinochet take over Allende's socialist government that wanted to nationalize its copper mines.

- Iraq 2003, the US, and the Bush family in particular, wanted revenge on Saddam Hussein and regain control of the region's oil and resources. They made the whole region unstable.

- Libya 2011 (that was France and Nicolas Sarkozy), Qaddafi wanted to stop its partnership with BP and Total (British and French oil companies) in favor of Russian and Chinese companies. France helped the rebels and killed Qaddafi. The country is a feudal mess now.
#60 to #58 - allahrules (12/17/2015) [-]
dont forget honduras and the united fruit company!
User avatar #63 to #60 - tanitakavirius (12/17/2015) [-]
There are many examples. I couldn't list them all.
You could even go back in history for political stuff and make Game of Thrones look like a children's story.
User avatar #117 to #63 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
A few centuries ago, GoT probably would be a children's story.
#67 to #63 - allahrules (12/17/2015) [-]
I've always found that really interesting the way america as a nation keeps on putting the wrong people in power just because they do want we wanted at that moment. it's a damn shame really
User avatar #68 to #67 - tanitakavirius (12/17/2015) [-]
The US aren't the only ones. But they are indeed notorious for it.
#69 to #68 - allahrules (12/17/2015) [-]
true that
#86 to #58 - tealcanaan (12/17/2015) [-]
>without Pinochet Chile would be a ******** like Venezuela now
do you want a ride in my helicopter?

User avatar #114 to #86 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Allende may have ended up corrupt at some point, but he was a democratically elected leader that got replaced with a murdering dictator on a whim. There is no excuse for that.

Besides, the "Miracle of Chile" was about to tank the economy before the Pinochet regime was forced to regulate it again when the first few years of rapid growth wore off.
User avatar #120 to #114 - tealcanaan (12/17/2015) [-]
And of course you have to regulate at some point, you can't have constant rapid growth, chicago boys knew that.
User avatar #118 to #114 - tealcanaan (12/17/2015) [-]
Allende wasn't corrupt, he was just a dumbass commie about to bring in a wave of marginal starvation and hyperinflation due to mismanagement, like commies always do.
User avatar #122 to #118 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
So he wasn't doing anything objectively wrong, and hadn't even been in office long enough to, but he still should have been disposed of because you don't like him. Got it.
User avatar #124 to #122 - tealcanaan (12/17/2015) [-]
Meh, he was parceling out land, crops were failing, welfare lines were becoming long, manufacturies were closing. I was really quite rapid.
User avatar #127 to #124 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
In as little time as he spent in office, that's not much of a reason. Brief low periods are par for the course, regardless of political orientation. My point still stands: an arrogant psychopath ignored the will of the people and made himself dictator, which is never a good thing. He did far more harm than good to Chile by the time he left.
User avatar #131 to #127 - tealcanaan (12/17/2015) [-]
That's a bold faced lie m8, he made chile into the wealthiest per capita south american nation, that is a fact. and no, it wasn't a "brief low period" It was the scaring off of foreign investors due to nationalization of factories, land grabs, and the nationalization of mining equipment. They scared off foreign engineers/professionals who kept factories running, they lost food production due to land being parceled out to peasant class who knew nothing of mass production of food, and they slowed mining operations to a crawl due to incompetence.
User avatar #133 to #131 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
He made it the "wealthiest nation" by making it a safe haven for moguls doing business in South America. Very little of this wealth made it to the people. Allende didn't scare off investors by mistake, he flipped them the bird because they were exploiting what to them were just dumb foreigners. A difficult transition was inevitable. One could easily argue that said transition would not be worth it, but this is getting beyond the point.

Pinochet was a brutal dictator that replaced a democratically elected leader. This democratically elected leader was not himself "disappearing" people.
User avatar #134 to #133 - tealcanaan (12/17/2015) [-]
"dissapearing people"

Dropping a few marxist rebels from helicopters or putting them against a wall isn't too horrible in my mind. And no, median household income is highest in Chile as well, try again.
User avatar #144 to #134 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Outliers increase both median and mean values in a set.

"Dropping a few marxist rebels from helicopters or putting them against a wall isn't too horrible in my mind."

If you accept that killing people over political differences is okay, you are beyond help. ****** sake.
User avatar #146 to #144 - tealcanaan (12/17/2015) [-]
Naw, they're maxists, they need to be purged before they completely reck your homeland, it's really the only way to deal with them.
User avatar #147 to #146 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Marx and Engels were socially conservative, but okay. Have fun getting lined up against the wall when your Great Leader no longer finds you useful.
User avatar #148 to #147 - tealcanaan (12/17/2015) [-]
What does them being socially conservative have to do with anything? And they are only socially conservative by today's standards lmao. Marxists are evil because they are globalists, they are against property rights and traditional manifestations of one's culture, they destroy everything fundamental of a nation state and replace it with the state apparatus streced globally.
User avatar #149 to #148 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
You are not objectively wrong, but the "Marxists" in Chile didn't shoot and smash their way into power. They asked to be put in charge for a term and enough people said yes. If you do not respect this, how can you possibly claim to want what is best for them?
User avatar #150 to #149 - tealcanaan (12/17/2015) [-]
Not really a fan of of general elections tbh, or you know, blanket suffrage.
User avatar #152 to #150 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Then you're at odds with pretty much the entire developed world.
User avatar #153 to #152 - tealcanaan (12/17/2015) [-]
This experiment in the west of universal suffrage and democracy has only been around a brief 100 years buddy.
User avatar #155 to #153 - Shiny ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
And space travel has been around for less than that. If you want go back into your cave, I won't stop you, but don't expect everyone to follow you willingly.
User avatar #88 to #86 - tanitakavirius (12/17/2015) [-]
I bet you think Hitler did nothing wrong.
#89 to #88 - tealcanaan (12/17/2015) [-]
GIF
Well, he lost.
User avatar #91 to #89 - tanitakavirius (12/17/2015) [-]
Well, he killed Hitler.
User avatar #92 to #91 - tealcanaan (12/17/2015) [-]
Better that than be paraded by mongol russians.
#72 to #17 - godofhorizons (12/17/2015) [-]
Try reading 'Killing Hope' by William Blum.
#62 to #12 - allahrules (12/17/2015) [-]
this right here it's always good to know the truth of these kinds of situations.
User avatar #109 to #12 - badnewsanon (12/17/2015) [-]
I study history. Specifically, the British Empire. I like you.
User avatar #160 to #12 - angelusprimus (12/17/2015) [-]
True except for one thing.
Iran's revolution was started by pro-democracy and pro-socialst groups. Mostly students and young union workers.
But they were soon joined by Islamists and then Islamists co-opted and took over the revolution.
User avatar #198 to #160 - Shiny ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-]
Ah, right. I was trying to talk about the general unrest before the coup and got a little muddled.
User avatar #199 to #198 - angelusprimus (12/18/2015) [-]
Really good post, though, bro.
Its good to see posts like that here.
#56 to #12 - freed (12/17/2015) [-]
I agree with you completely.

Monstrous acts create monstrous people
#52 to #12 - schneidend ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
GIF
Goddamn our interventionist ******** . I am so sad to be an American when I think about how ******* short-sighted our black ops apparatus is. Why do competent shadow men who think ten moves ahead only exist in fiction?
User avatar #82 to #52 - jdrinfantry (12/17/2015) [-]
You wouldn't know what really goes on behind the curtain.
We all sit here, with each our own guess on who the bad guy is, and we so much like to point at our own governments, yet each elected person we've had has seen behind this veil which is our reality. Which shields us against knowledge that could end up in Nuclear War.

We speak of saddams nuclear weapon as a farce, or Gaddafi, Syria and all those as if they don't have weapon suppliers capable of delievering powerful biological agents, or chemical compounds.

This is happening, this is being used by our enemies; Anthrax letters, small pox pandemics, there are biologists this very second working on weaponizing lethal diseases to harm us.

And we sit here and question the people who work around the clock to prevent us from harm?
Excuse me, but I trust the intelligence Agencies we have in the west, it is not like they're inexperienced. They've dealt with tough, classified information for decades.
User avatar #84 to #82 - schneidend ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
The problem isn't their ability to gather intelligence or act on it, but their lack of foresight or culpability in proactively attempting to engineer the geopolitical landscape. Stopping a terrorist cell from detonating a dirty bomb in downtown Major City, USA is great, but deposing Dictator A because he's not the hero we need right now in favor of Dictator B doesn't protect me. Shoot the bad guys who are legitimately about to murder tons of innocent, don't replace a guy with his psychotic uncle just because the uncle is willing to stop selling oil to a guy who is only going to be your enemy for another couple years.
User avatar #87 to #84 - jdrinfantry (12/17/2015) [-]
While you all sit there and act as if we've meddled in affairs we shouldnt have, I sit here amazed by the fact that we're working WITH Iraq as their allies, and that Iran is ACTIVELY helping Iraq, a former archenemy.

I think what we've intervened in is necessary. Without our help, we would've seen another Serbia rise, and kill those they despise. Our role hasn't been to obliterate the enemy, it has been to track down, a small number of international terrorists, while at the same time support our allies in the region.

We can argue about 'muh oil' or 'no WMDS duuh' all night, or we can sit here, with gratitude that the NATO led coalition won with a casualty rate of something like 1/1000 in 2003, which I believe is amazing. Not only is it amazing, it also the biggest accomplishment in military history, EVER.

Wanna look on the negative side? Or you want to praise countries like Kuwait, Qatar, Kenya, Egypt, Iran etc for developing into something that is providing for each other, in humanitarian ways, but also strategically.
User avatar #93 to #87 - schneidend ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
I'd like to do both. I'd like to drink to our accomplishments while at the same time not wondering about how many monsters we created with our various blunders. We keep training and supplying geurillas, and they keep becoming the next wave of terrorists because when we intervene we do it to annoy and foil our enemies, not to actually do any good. If we focused our efforts purely on stopping actual problems, instead of imagined ones like Communists, there'd be a lot more victories and a lot fewer horrifying ******** that bite us in the ass. Assad isn't our problem, he never was, and once we made him our problem we contributed to the unfixable *********** that Syria has now become.
User avatar #96 to #93 - jdrinfantry (12/17/2015) [-]
You can't supply someone with stupid ideas.
They got that all on their own.
User avatar #98 to #96 - schneidend ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Yeah, but if their stupid idea is to blow themselves up, you can at least not be the guy who gives them C4 and then explains how to use it. You can easily be that guy, by just not being a ******* jackass who hopes he blows up that other guy you hate.
User avatar #103 to #98 - jdrinfantry (12/17/2015) [-]
Well, if you want to hear a good story I'll tell you one
I blew up a bomb making facility in Afghanistan in 2013.

And to be perfectly fair, I've never actually experienced being shot at by US manufactured weapons, or licensed manufactured weapons.

Despite what the media is making it out to be, we are very effective at enforcing embargos.
If we make an embargo on Afghanistan, every sparepart to an engine, bolt in a weapon and wheel on a car will be checked, and if that serial number or the like is tracing back to the US or other embargoed countries, it wont enter the country.

And if we want to beat the same dead horse as we always do, lets bring up the 80's where we supplied "the taleban" with stinger missiles and other weapons.
Except the taleban didnt exist back then. In fact Karzai the president we supported in Afghanistan was a spokesman for the mujahideens we supplied. Which means we supported the same man that we support today. A section of the mujahideens just turned rogue.
User avatar #166 to #87 - cleomech (12/18/2015) [-]
What do you know about the Serbian conflict?
User avatar #201 to #166 - jdrinfantry (12/18/2015) [-]
i meant the balkan conflict in the 90's. Where 1 million bosnians and croatians were killed by serbs
#30 to #12 - arreatface (12/17/2015) [-]
jesus **** i love you
no matter what political orientation you have, one should always know his history before presenting opinions on political matters.
#39 - Deavas (12/17/2015) [-]
>for 1400 years we have been slaughtering each other

so uh

i dont mean to be that guy but

thats pretty much exactly around when islam came to be

i love being that guy not to say it wasnt anybody elses fault either, but. yknow
#61 to #39 - tanitakavirius (12/17/2015) [-]
Muslims couldn't have been fighting each others before the creation of Islam for obvious reason. But people from the Middle East (and from everywhere else too) have always been fighting each other. You know Babylon, Assyria, Egypt, Sumerians, etc.
User avatar #180 to #61 - thelastamerican (12/18/2015) [-]
A thumb for your dick map.
User avatar #43 to #39 - seniorawesomesauce ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Yes
that's her point
Muslims have been killing muslims for 1400 years
That's why she points out that it's because of religious difference
because she's talking about the different branches of Islam.
#65 to #43 - allahrules (12/17/2015) [-]
The infighting that happened in islamic history is almost always one sided, in that a new sect (the shiates back in the day, or the khawarij the forefathers of isis) decides that everyone who doesn't agree with them deserves to be slaugheter. The majority of Muslims who are sunni almost never came to the same conclusion, for a sunni anyone who say's there is no god but allah is a muslim, but these new groups and sects always came to the conclusion that everyone else was not a muslim because they don't agree and decided to kill everyone else. its not islam, islam in it's pure unadultered form doesnt condone any of the murders carried out under islams banner.
#169 to #65 - anon (12/18/2015) [-]
So you're blaming shiites for ISIS now huh? You must be sunni trash.
#193 to #169 - allahrules (12/18/2015) [-]
cmon are you even trying. Isis and shiates are radically different in belief and ideology but they both end up doing the same thing, killing everyone who doesn't agree with each other. They're both a mindset and a school of thought that is harsh and unislamic but sunnis (as in mainstream classic islam) suck it up and just try and deal with them as best we can. In the past whenever the shiates or other sects starting acting up they were put down silently and quickly before they could do any damage, but as long as they go their seperate ways and don't start killing and raping

tl;dr isis and shiates are like east and the west but they both end up coming to the same place killing people that don't agree with them
User avatar #44 to #43 - Deavas (12/17/2015) [-]
yes because this was soo extremely obvious with the context given
#45 to #44 - seniorawesomesauce ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Yeah
YEAH IT WAS.
She's talking about people demonizing the west from a group of people that have been fighting each other over religious differences. That seems pretty on-the-nose to me.
User avatar #46 to #45 - Deavas (12/17/2015) [-]
no it doesnt at all
User avatar #64 to #46 - dharkmoswen (12/17/2015) [-]
Then you're just an idiot and need to stop trying to understand this.
#48 - kingtravis (12/17/2015) [-]
"I am the wrath of God. If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like ME upon you." ~ Genghis Khan
User avatar #76 to #48 - sphincterface (12/17/2015) [-]
I always assumed Genghis Khan was a pagan?...
User avatar #81 to #76 - kingtravis (12/17/2015) [-]
Attila the Hun was considered the Scourge of God and he was around during the Ancient Roman times while Genghis Khan lives 1000 years after him. Also both Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan were not Pagans or Christians, they were Sons of Tengri, and followed Tengriism.
#94 to #81 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
Attila honestly didn't do **** compared to Genghis Khan. He bummed around roman provinces for a bit and was likely poisoned he didn't even sack Rome. Attila wiped out most of the population of the middle east, destroyed a whole ethnicity of asians and conquered China.
User avatar #101 to #94 - kingtravis (12/17/2015) [-]
I think you mixed up their names... at.... somewhere.... in there.....
User avatar #99 to #94 - phtholognyrrh (12/17/2015) [-]
sounds like attila was real busy after all
User avatar #136 to #76 - vorarephilia (12/17/2015) [-]
I think either he or one of his sons listened to some missionaries.

Regardless, and assuming the line was really said, Khan was an expert at psychological warfare. Lines like that backed with intentionally released survivors telling stories of towns being razed in one night, is decimating to the morale of opposing nations.
User avatar #80 to #76 - Sethorein ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Horse gods are pretty wrathful
#162 to #48 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
The quote I know is a little bit different but history is like that,
it was so many years ago he probably said "hur dur i'm here for chicken"
but either way i've never enjoyed this quote,
by his logic I could go out right now and starting raping and murdering people and claim to be the wrath of god,
this is a quote that ISIS would genuinely believe of themselves.
#14 - funnaycraptwo (12/17/2015) [-]
She sure does like the number "1,400."

I wonder if she's taken in 1,400 cocks.
#128 to #14 - morebuckets (12/17/2015) [-]
???

it's because of the split between sunni and shiite you stupid ****
User avatar #23 to #14 - reggaemortis (12/17/2015) [-]
You funny man. I kill you last.
I am lying of course.
Die.
#24 to #23 - funnaycraptwo (12/17/2015) [-]
Thanks, but I'm gonna keep living for a few more years.
User avatar #25 to #24 - reggaemortis (12/17/2015) [-]
It is not your decision, funny man
User avatar #33 to #28 - reggaemortis (12/17/2015) [-]
You are
deep inside
User avatar #4 - tormain ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
We've always been blaming Britain.
#70 to #4 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
More and more British are blaming Britain too.
#47 - thearcher (12/17/2015) [-]
Well, everyone needs a scapegoat....
#170 to #47 - iamchicken (12/18/2015) [-]
Success breeds jealously.
#190 to #170 - thearcher (12/18/2015) [-]
Success being one of the best empires in Earth's history
#191 to #190 - iamchicken (12/18/2015) [-]
Empire which even after falling then turned into the glorious Anglo Sphere.
#192 to #191 - thearcher (12/18/2015) [-]
May the sun never set on the glorious reaches of Britannia!
#90 - anotherhaloguy (12/17/2015) [-]
People have been blaming the British for the past 200 years; even when we're not involved
God I love being English, but I sure do get **** from Americans and Main Land Europeans about it, its not just the Middle Eastern countries, I'm more bothered about why the price of Freddo's is so damn high than people blaming world problems on my nation
User avatar #189 to #90 - fjacctfucku (12/18/2015) [-]
i've never seen another american blame the uk for anything.. mostly just 'we're better than you, and we know it' stuff
User avatar #3 - emptysuperman ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
I'd love to listen to you lady, but I can't hear you over the sound of my erection.
User avatar #37 to #3 - paddypancake (12/17/2015) [-]
If your erection makes sounds its time to visit a doctor.
User avatar #41 to #37 - emptysuperman ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
WHAT??
#143 to #41 - keshasdick (12/17/2015) [-]
SHE SAID THAT IF YOUR ERECTION MAKES SOUND ITS TIME TO VISIT A DOCTOR!!!
User avatar #151 to #143 - emptysuperman ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
SHE SAID MY INFECTION TAKES POUNDS OFF LIMES, MIDGETS, AND SOCK SORES???
User avatar #50 - hcp (12/17/2015) [-]
Arab Intellectual - Muslim Failure I foound this guy a while ago. Interesting man. His name is Abd Al-Hamid Al-Ansari.
#71 to #50 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
Damn, that was actually better than I thought
User avatar #51 to #50 - RandomMRTroll (12/17/2015) [-]
This made me happy.

didn't even need to read subtitles >
#10 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
SHES FULL OF ****
OH THE USA WANTS TO REPLACE ANOTHER COUNTRIES LEADER?
THEY DID THAT IN IRAQ AND IT HAVE BIRTH TO ISIS... CREDIBILITY GONE
#40 to #10 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
ISIS was formed after a schism among Al-Qaeda forces fighting in SYRIA. Iraq had nothing to do with it.
#36 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
yeaaaaaahh... except americans don't just pray. isis wouldn't probably exist without american intervention in the middle east. you can't sweet talk it, most of the time cunts just wanted some oil from there. plus I guess it kinda is necessary for americans to constantly have a wars since their economy is based on constant war.
#42 to #36 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
Yeah they would, they'd just find somebody else to get pissed at, like Israel, or Russia.
#57 to #36 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
You're conflating the American people with the American government. American theists praying != military intervention. The government wanting more oil = military intervention. American soldiers weren't deployed to the Middle East for religious conquest. ISIS, if they could deploy troops in the traditional sense, would definitely do it for religious reasons.

And the American economy isn't based on war. It's based on the resources held by other countries, which the US government seems to enjoy taking via warfare. Now you're conflating the means with the end.
User avatar #79 - Sethorein ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Because America, England, and France are directly responsible for some of the most recent (past century) problems in global politics.

Vietnam? America and France.
The radicalization of Iran? England and America
The radicalization of Iraq? NATO vs Russia via proxy war
The banana wars? America
The Iran-contra scandal? America.

We routinely destabilize other countries for our own benefit. But feel free to pretend we are sinless.
#115 to #79 - bwiedieter (12/17/2015) [-]
Don´t forget China, they ****** everyone in their vicinity over pretty bad whenever give an excuse.
User avatar #100 to #79 - kibbleking (12/17/2015) [-]
I think you're cutting Russia way to much slack.
User avatar #102 to #100 - Sethorein ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Russia has been pretty ****** I suppose...

I just don't feel like it is very successful with its ********** . It might annex Georgia or Crimea, but that doesn't really compare to destabilizing iran's oil economy...
User avatar #104 to #102 - kibbleking (12/17/2015) [-]
You SUPPOSE? You're ranging these problems in the past century, and RUSSIA is hardly being considered for problems in global politics?
Rhodesia?
Korea?
Germany?
You even listed the Vietnam war and left them out!
User avatar #111 to #104 - Sethorein ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Could you tell me more about those other conflicts I'm kinda in the dark?

Also I didn't include them in Vietnam because to be honest, if france had given Vietnam their independence after wwii there would have been no war.

I coulda sworn China was more of a proxy fighter than Russia in Vietnam and Korea. Could be wrong.
User avatar #135 to #111 - kibbleking (12/17/2015) [-]
After WWII, Korea and Vietnam were split between the allies the USSR to aid in repairs. afterwards, the soviet union decided that they owned what they had 'repaired,' and turned North Korea and East Germany into Socialist states, and then proceeded to fund anti-capitalist groups in North Vietnam like the Vietcong.
They also funded the ZANU and ZAPU (both socialist organizations) to attack Rhodesia, and effectively tore it down. It is now known as the most worthless and impoverished African nation, Zimbabwe.
User avatar #142 to #135 - Sethorein ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Welp... tu quoque I suppose... **** everyone, let's drink.
User avatar #154 - ubercookieboy (12/17/2015) [-]
Well to be fair, we Brits DID **** a lot of **** up when we were a relevant global power
User avatar #174 to #154 - feelythefeel (12/18/2015) [-]
>we ****** up the new world by making a world power and a slew of secondary powers in the making
>we ****** up Asia by making it home to world-class centers of business and industry
The only regions we failed to dramatically improve were Africa (Because they gleefully threw away the chance we gave them at improvement) and the middle east (Because we didn't really bother with it.

You're a part of one of the greatest peoples on the face of the Earth, act like it.
User avatar #175 to #174 - ubercookieboy (12/18/2015) [-]
So were the Romans, but they were still a bunch of evil bastards, even though they DID bring civilization to a lot of the world.
User avatar #177 to #175 - feelythefeel (12/18/2015) [-]
How were they evil? In the words of Ashin Wirathu, you can be full of kindness and love, but you cannot sleep next to a mad dog. If you're surrounded by wild tribes of feral men like the Romans were, you're either a tough ************ or a dead ************ . If the Romans didn't do what it took to survive, we wouldn't be talking about them right now.
#6 - anon (12/17/2015) [-]
I've been asking this question since I learned middle eastern history in middle school.
#15 to #6 - randomuploads (12/17/2015) [-]
Didn't learn much then did you.
User avatar #178 - sorenlolz (12/18/2015) [-]
I don't know what Kanye ever did wrong either.
User avatar #187 to #178 - elcreepo (12/18/2015) [-]
-takes sharp, deep inhale-

***** ***** ***** ***** , ***** ***** ***** *****
BITCHES AND HOES, BITCHES AND HOES
***** ***** ***** ***** , ***** ***** ***** *****
I LOVE ME, THANK YOU.

And that's why nobody likes Kayne. He's not a musician, he's not even a rapper.
#195 to #187 - sorenlolz (12/18/2015) [-]
But he's not a rapper
User avatar #196 to #195 - elcreepo (12/18/2015) [-]
So all the black people saying he's their favorite rapper, they're wrong?
User avatar #197 to #196 - sorenlolz (12/18/2015) [-]
But you said it. You obviously didn't understand the reference.
Supa hot fire VS b-bone (first battle ORIGINAL)
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