This is my worst nightmare. If I ever get a child, I hope for a daughter. There is something peculiarly beautiful about the cross-gender parent-child relationship that I envy. I am a total mama's boy, and my father has paid far more attention to my younger sister than he did to me. Every man dreams of a beautious daughter with charm, wit and intelligence and self-determinitive sustainance, who will help you and others in need and treat herself with dignity.
This entire female-sexual liberation thing has severly upped my fear of having said daughter, knowing there is a single chance she will grow up to be a cheap skank with horrible taste in men.
Wrong move. Girls are attracted to people like their dads. You'd just be making your daughter interested in people who are gym junkies, who are largely (Read largely, not all) total assholes
Strange, I was always a Daddy's girl, but my dad was emotionally abusive and raised me with a distorted, under-developed view of the world, which caused me to be a little ********* , so I always wanted a boy. I have one little girl now who of course I love more than existence itself...but like you said, I feel I would have a special bond with my son..
I'm scared ******** of having a daughter and ending up being sexually attracted to her.
I don't have any sisters so i honestly have never had a sexually attractive woman in my life that it wasn't okay to think about, but i guess the age difference would be enough maybe?
Mother maybe?
It's just a naturally neutral thing - like having a guy around, something hard wired in brain - you may be able to see that they tick "attractive" boxes, slim/symetrical/dress sense/"bright", but the lust thing wont be there
why would you wish for a daughter? its 5x more effort, time and attention with her
make one little mistake when she is 12 or so and she'll be a whore until she gets 30 (after that women go only uglier and they refuse to admit their age)
I mean its like filling a pot with water til the edge then carefully walking with that uphill without spilling a single drop. he level gets harder if she gets prettier and develops tits early.
bruh I have a 2 month old daughter and I hope the gender war happens before she turns 10, too young to be properly recruited into it, but not young enough to be deemed worthless.
Bruh, you'll be ok.
Lots of guys get nervous about having daughters because they're worried their girls will grow up to be whores or feminazis or completely dependent on men throughout their lives.
You know what kind of woman you want your daughter to grow up to be, and you know what kind of woman you want her to never become. You have your mother as an example of a good woman, and hopefully your wife will be a good role model too.
Seriously, if she turns out to be something you're ashamed of it's got to be through some ******* perverted twist of fate because you sound like a good (future) father.
I'm trying not to sound homo and feelsy, but something about your comment reminded me of my own dad, and he's ******* great. It was my mum that was a ****** parent, and he more than made up for her lack of... well, everything. They had 5 girls and 2 boys. And every one of those kids is respectable and smart and hard-working and all that good **** . So chill. I have a feeling you'll be a good dad so don't even worry about it.
For me, having a daughter would make me feel just horrible every time I think about her future and her children. I have an X-chromosome linked bleeding disorder and as such any daughters I have will be carriers and there's a high chance that their sons will have it, repeating ad nauseum. Even though the treatment is better than it was I just can't bear the thought of passing anything at all like what I've had to deal with on to anyone else.
Bruh i know the feeling. I've got a syndrome on the x-chromosome which is causing my body to slowly destroy it's own kidneys. It ain't cool knowing that if i get a girl, then she'll be carrier of the syndrome.. _
The trick is to start addressing those issues young, before they come up in her life. Also, because you have to get to your kids before the general rotten leftist-dominated culture does.
Also, regarding her posting half-naked / sexually provocative selfies and dressing that way. Simply explain to her that what she's doing is advertising herself in a way that attracts exactly the wrong sort of man, who will pump her and dump her. Tell her to dress more modestly and be chaste.
Side note: dressing modestly doesn't mean she should wear a potato bag. It means she should look "pretty", not "sexy".
Instead, she should promote her personality and values to attract a man that appreciates her for her personality and shares her values (which you instilled in her).
When they're married / engaged, she can a complete freak in bed IN PRIVATE.
She should only give the time of day to men who want her for her personality as much as her looks, who shares her values, and who isn't broke and can provide for her and her children.
Sleeping around is a big no-no. Getting pregnant while not married is also a no-no. Being a single mother is the one of the worst things that could happen to her, so teach her to avoid the behaviors that lead to single motherhood by avoiding the men who make single mothers and by restricting extra-marital sex to engagement and by having thoroughly vetted the man she's dating and still ALWAYS using contraception before they're married.
Just some friendly advice from a man who's been worrying about the same thing.
"Sleeping around is a big no-no. Getting pregnant while not married is also a no-no. Being a single mother is the one of the worst things that could happen to her"
So she gets to high school, gets told by a million boys "you're so pretty" and blows them off because you told her it's about more than looks. First guy she meets that can scribble some half-brewed poetry about her name and her hair, and she think "oh my god, he must be the one because he didn't mention my tits."
So she says "daddy, I'm in love with a boy" and you tell her to be careful, some boys lie to get what they want. Now, she's a teenager and (as someone who has had 3 teenage sisters so far) she isn't going to believe you. Because "how could something fake feel so real?" so she gives her body to him. They don't wear a condom because instead of "have safe sex" you taught her "don't have sex unless it's love". She gets pregnant, dude leaves, and now she's everything you taught her to hate. So as far as she's concerned, her body is worthless and so is she. And you taught her that.
How about you raise her like you would raise a son: "you're going to want to have sex. You shouldn't have a lot of sex, because that's dangerous. But sex will happen. When it happens, be smart about it. Make him wear a condom. If he won't, then you don't have sex with him. One day you'll have kids, and your entire life will be devoted to them. Until then, I want you to spend as much of your life devoted to yourself." Teach them about the dating scene, teach them about safe and healthy sex, and teach them that sex shouldn't make you feel ashamed because it's natural. TEACH THEM so that they don't get dropped into the real world with daddy's delusions guiding their actions.
"that can scribble some half-brewed poetry"
Let me restate the three qualifiers:
-interested in her personality as much as her looks
-Shares her values
-Isn't broke
I said SHE dresses pretty, Not she requires the guy to tell her to be pretty.
Some schmuck scribbling poetry doesn't demonstrate he share her values, it doesn't even demonstrate he admires her personality as it is vain flattery.
And poets are broke anyways. So he fails in all respects.
"So she says..."
Wow, I didn't know you had a crystal ball there.
>sex will happen.
>If he won't, then you don't have sex with him.
Oh so people, incl. women, ARE in control of their actions and can choose to abstain from sex until certain conditions are met.
I'd rather raise them to have moral agency, especially sexual moral agency. And the near helpless victimhood mentality of "things will happen". Yes, things in life will happen, but it is your duty to avoid the conditions where those things happen as much as possible. And there are certain things that just plain don't happen to moral and intelligent people. "Sex just happening" is one of them.
"her body is worthless"
Not it isn't. But like it or not, the higher a woman's notch count the lower her SMV, and the difference between her having taken 30 cocks and 40 cocks is much smaller than between 0 or 1. The more promiscuous a woman is, the worse she'll be at pair bonding with her monogamous life mate, and the less happy she'll be and this will follow her for the rest of her life. Better to keep her legs closed for someone who is serious material and who commits to her, which sucks until she's married (women get or can get married a lot younger than men) but she'll be a lot happier for the rest of her life.
"be smart about it."
How conveniently vague, and therefore content-vacuous advice. That's literally the worst kind of advice you can give your children. And the one they will hate and resent you the most for.
"you would raise a son"
Men and women aren't the same.
"One day you'll have kids"
No, don't have kids outside of marriage. Get married to a man who can support them and then have all the ******* kids your husband can support.
"Until then, I want you to spend as much of your life devoted to yourself."
Until then, devote your life to finding a suitable husband ASAP. None of the other **** matters to your happiness, not the shopping, not shoes, not the 1000 moronic things feminists tell you to do or tell you that matter, not your hobbies... Not even your college degree matters as much as a man's matters as you'll be using it a lot less than he will.
The thing that matters the most for your long-term happiness and well-being is a good marriage with a good man.
You will not find happiness riding a bunch of cocks that belong to men who don't give a **** about you (in their actions rather than just their words).
"Teach them about the dating scene,"
Of course, I will. Including all the dangers and ****** up **** and deceit and frustration that goes with it. I will teach her not to stay in it for long and get married ASAP.
"teach them that sex shouldn't make you feel ashamed because it's natural."
Sex itself is natural. It's the context in which sex is had. Sex should be private and with someone who loves you and is committed to you. Outside of that context, I'd rather she not do it in the first place by me warning her, than do it and then feeling bad about it afterwards.
But you know what? That entire rant, point-by-point? Meaningless. Because your mentality is laid bare in the last three bullets.
"get a man who can support your kids then have all the kids he can support"
"Devote your life to finding a suitable husband ASAP"
"None of the other **** matters to your happiness... not your hobbies, not even your college degree"
"get married ASAP"
I don't even have to ask what is wrong with you: those lines sum it up pretty ******* well. I mean.... Holy **** , you really believe these things? That a woman's happiness hinges entirely on the man she marries? That the limits of her life are set by first finding a suitable marriage? You tell her "wait for that right guy who treats you well and can support you" but also insist that she "get married ASAP", and you don't see how that can cause a conflict of interest that can only end in failure and sadness?
**** , dude... You're on the internet, talking like you're in the 1940s...
Okay, so you want to take this point by point...
Let me restate the situation I'm describing:
-high school.
-hormones
-social pressure
-a complete lack of real-world experience.
I said HE makes her feel like she's more than a pretty face, not that she is so vapid she requires poetic confirmation of how pretty she is. When she goes to high school and the boys you warned her about say "yo girl, let's **** " or "damn you've got a nice body" she knows to avoid them. Meanwhile the boy you told her to look for, and give herself to, is what every other guy is pretending to be. "I just enjoy hanging out with you" or "you're the smartest person I know" or "I love how much we get along!" are the pickup lines she'll fall for because you've trained her to believe that "most guys are douches, but there is a special one out there for you".
> Didn't know you had a crystal ball there
It's a hypothetical situation, you twit. And a very common one. If we're going to have that attitude about it, then your point is just as easily invalidated. "Wow, it's impressive that you know she'll take everything you taught her to heart and avoid the 'wrong' guys".
>sex just happening, doesn't actually happen
It really does, and saying "it doesn't happen to moral and intelligent people" is exactly the mentality that brews my next point:
>her body is worthless
I didn't say this. Not once did I say that anything that girl did would make her body worthless: I said that raising her to believe that sex is shameful will make her believe her body is worthless after the first penis she doesn't marry. Your misguided teaching "moral and intelligent people don't just have sex" will just worsen that image. She'll meet liars. She'll meet damned-good liars. Liars who say things like "it was your laugh that caught my attention. I just wanted to do everything I could to keep you laughing. And now I can see that behind that intoxicating laugh is the soul and personality of one of the most mesmerizing people I will ever meet" instead of "saw your tits from across the bar and I wanted to slap my dick on 'em". So she makes a simple mistake, sleeps with a guy who wasn't actually the chosen one: and now she broken your rules. She's had sex outside of marriage, decreasing her "SMV", and she had sex with someone despite her best interests not being there so she's lacking morals and intelligence because "sex doesn't just happen".
>how conveniently vauge
That sentence was an introduction to literally everything that followed. Sex ed, separate sex from self-worth, don't have kids too soon, liars on the dating scene: literally everything else I summed up in the last 10 sentences followed "be smart about it" so specifically that short of coming up with a scenario for each and every example I provided I couldn't even GET more specific.
>men and women aren't the same
They are a lot more similar than you're giving your hypothetical daughter credit for. Sex feels good for both parties, and both genders are prone to have sex. And my point was in how you prep them for the real world. Want to know the sex talk my dad gave me? "Well son, you're going to want to have sex. And hopefully, people are going to want to have sex with you. Put a condom on when you do. STDs are no joke and children are a permanent fixture. Go get 'em, skippy". Meanwhile my sisters each got a childhood of "find Mr. Right" and "don't have sex before marriage" and "kids are a wonderful thing but don't have them before marriage". I now have 5 nephews and a niece. I also have a sexually-active lifestyle including long-standing relationships and flings, but no kids.
>no don't have kids outside of marriage
Re-read everything I've told you about failed expectations. What happens when she does have a kid outside of marriage? She makes a mistake (like humans do) and now she has a kid. Re-read everything I said about how your rules will make her a subconscious failure to you and her self-worth.
"Teach your daughter that women who have a lot of sex are worthless."
See, you're falling into exactly the trap so many parents do. So if your daughter did have sex, even once, whether due to peer pressure, drunkenness, or even rape, chances are good she'd hate herself for it. Chances are she'd hate women in the same position.
ive actually been dealing with this fear for a while.
ive seen so many women used and abused by douchebags because of their terrible taste and terrible self esteem. I can't bear to see it happen to someone I actually care about, let alone my own daughter.
It would likely literally be my worst nightmare
This. People have no idea how significant this is.
Women who grow up with fathers who abuse their wives or them will get that as their image of how a husband figure is supposed to behave. In fact, probably the greatest indicator that a woman had a terrible father is that she likes men who treat her like crap. If you have a daughter, always treat her and your wife with respect and care so that your daughter knows that that is the kind of man to look for.
Just don't let your wife walk all over you either, or your daughter will grow up to be a feminazi.
Then you get princess syndrome, which is just as bad on the opposite end of the spectrum. Thwy preserve themselves, wait for a good guy, marry, but it doesn't end there. It's in their head to always go for more: they in turn latch onto the next great guy who has more. Then they end up alone at 36 because they aren't worth anyone's maintenance.
I said, "Teach your daughter what a respectable man looks like," not, "tell your daughter she deserves the entire world and then some, so she should act like a total ******* wacko entitled bitch and jump ship if she doesn't get what she wants 100% of the time."
I think you need to come off the "All women are inherently evil" bandwagon, because you're basically suggesting that no matter what a father does, his daughter will turn out a bad apple.
Additionally, you're also teaching her what a respectable woman looks like as well, so she'll know that always chasing the new thrill is not what a respectable woman does.
Where the **** did I say all women are evil?? Y'all are the ones over here cowering in fear that "oh no my daughter might actually enjoy dick during her lifetime! Not my pure maiden of a daughter!" like pre-marital sex is the source of all female strife.
What I said, and what you clearly misunderstood, was telling a girl "look for Mr. Perfect" is setting them up for failure as badly as telling them nothing at all. Because there is no perfect guy. But you're going to convince her there is. A guy who wants more than her body (literally millions of men in the world) a guy who will treat her right (literally the mass majority of men in the world) and someone who will make her feel good. So what happens when she finds someone who makes her feel better? And that's where you guys miss the ******* point:
You're terrified she'll go through a bunch of douchebros who treat her like **** . Like she'll end up losing control of her better sensibilities after some jock asshole takes her virginity in the back of his Ford Focus. So you miss the real threat. Poetic little ***** who tell her she's worth the moon. Comedic ***** who can make her laugh and feel good. And worst of them all? Hormone-addled teenagers who can't tell the difference between a boner and true love and have her just as convinced because she herself is a hormone-addled teenager who can't tell love from desire because you sheltered her from sex so ******* hard she might as well be churning butter at the commune. "Good guys" who don't trigger the "typical guy" radar. THAT'S who she'll burn through instead. Those are the guys she'll **** one after the other because you made her feel that her body was a temple and she let it be defiled after that long-haired faggot in the sweater wrote her a notebook full of ****** poetry.
Yeah, I didn't read past "Look for Mr. Perfect" because as I said previously, the advice I gave wasn't to tell her "look for Mr. perfect." it was "Look for someone who treats you with respect and don't accept disrespect." That's literally all I ******* said. I didn't say anything about extra marital sex being a bad thing. I simply said to keep your daughter from a lot of heartbreak, you should be the example of a respectable man, so she knows what to look for in a man. You basically said that if I teach my daughter she deserves better than a blow and go, she'll just take it to the other extreme, no holds barred. While you teach your daughter what a respectable man looks like, you (and hopefully her mother) are also teaching her what a respectable women looks like: i.e. not a spoiled ass princess as you insinuated earlier. In short, you don't know what the **** you're talking about.
I didn't say I disagree. I said I didn't take time to take it in because your entire counter argument is based off of something I never said (look for Mr. Perfect). No, I won't take the time to reflect on your strawman.
Literally the start of humanity. But as an example, in the medieval period people used to have kids out of wedlock all the time (often with their parents full consent, as it sort of proved to the guy they were ******* that they were able to have kids-- they'd often be ******* their probable future husbands). Another one is just the simple fact that girls (and people in general) have always wanted to look good. What "good" means will change over time, but corsetry for example is basically the same as getting fake boobs and ass jobs nowadays (emphasising the breasts and hips, and making the waist look ******* tiny).
besides, sluts are not a bad thing. who are we to judge who someone bangs.
this is just my two cents, but it seems that some people on this site fantasize having sex with multiple different people, but when they see a person who has probably done that, they hate and resent them. I mean, it's natural to feel intimidated that someone succeed in something you only fantasize about and it might make you feel jealousy, but jesus christ, grow a pair and stop being a little bitch. it's worse to be a bitch than a slut.
You spergs really love that word...
Who cares if another dick was in there? Do her looks actually degrade? Is she any less sexy on a empirical level? Or does the idea of another dick in her just sicken you? It doesn't feel different, it doesn't look different it doesn't even SMELL different unless the dick was literally just in her. But somehow, her having sex with another dude 5 months ago turns your stomach and makes you think she's tainted product.
That's your ingrained Christian guilt speaking: externalizing the shame of sex you were trained to have. And it's ******* pathetic.
You do know that sluts have really low standards? You just need to be less gay. "Sluts" are the ones who will jump on your dick at the moment she sees you, implying you are atractive. Dont fall in love to them since they will probably dump you after the first sexual encounter. Women who are not sluts will be much more job. As a guy you only want to pump her ass with your semen, not listening to their dreams and other **** you dont care about. These are the women who test your patience and waste your time since they want to spend the rest of their lives with you and you have to read their vague signals and have tediously long text message sessions with and try to figure what the **** their smileys/emojjis are supposed to mean. The reason im still a virgin is that i hate trying to read their vague ass signals. And that prostitution is illegal doesnt really help my case either.
taking that as a "no." Showing off the body you've built doesn't make you worthless. In fact, you have nothing to base your assumption on aside from the fact that she's showing off her hotness in some of her pictures.
I know she's showing off her body. I know she's hot as **** . I know that if I was equally as hot I'd be showing off too. And I know that if it was a guy who was ripped posting pictures of himself in a bathing suit or whatever you wouldn't immediately assume he's "worthless."
Besides, she has the value of giving people throbbing boners, but so far I haven't seen anything of worth come out of you.
She's... Taking attractive pictures that emphasize her physical qualities for the sake of entertaining millions? Stroking her own ego to the applauds and innuendo of a million men (and women) who all look at her and say "I want her."? Clearly pissing off spergs like you who can't differentiate moral clarity from ingrained Christian guilt?
What a ******* ripoff. You post a picture of innocent pictures next to sexy ones, and link a blog, and what do I get? Some ******* autistic ramblings about how terrible females are and how they're all just running a scam.
Look, you wanna go at those girls on an individual basis? More power to you. Make a blog where each post is about a specific female doing something you don't approve of. That'd be cool.
But calling it "females exposed" and then posting nothing but bogus articles that say women control the wealth and bitching about Jennifer Lawrence? It's misleading for starters. But it's also really ******* cringy.
Please, quote me on where I was white knighting.
Was it the part where I said "expose females on an individual basis, with each post being a specific female, that'd be cool"? Or where I pointed out that the picture is literally nothing to indicate the blog it was linked to? Or was it because I called a anti-female conspiracy blog with thirteen posts about Jennifer Lawrence linked to literally bogus research about wealth distribution favoring females was autistic and cringy?
Clearly you have no idea what a white knight is.
Who said anything over offending women?
Look, there are pictures that are **** that take pictures of girls in amateur porn (like casting couch or bang bros), then find their Facebook pages and **** . They show them in their "innocent girl" form, even screencap posts where they talk **** about slutty girls or pictures of them with their BF/husband, and put them right next to pictures of them getting ************ by three different dudes.
They're hilarious and sexual. Awesome combination. The blog OP linked is just autistic ramblings about how females are terrible...