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User avatar #63 - heartlessrobot (10/03/2013) [-]
How about people stop trying to raise taxes for healthcare that won't even cover most medical procedures? It's like you people haven't even looked in to this Obamacare.
User avatar #150 to #63 - commontroll (10/03/2013) [-]
Obamacare is the worst way to take care of healthcare. Not to mention that the real problem is that the prices just keep inflating because insurance companies haggle the prices to 30% of the costs, so the hospitals keep raising it. And every hospital has a different chargemaster.

So I think if we just made hospitals lower their costs (some of the things are more than 25 times the cost as the same procedure in Canada) and then have the government take care of said costs by using taxes, versus forcing business owners to pay for their employees, since not every business owner even has profit. For instance, my mom and her business only gets her 100 bucks a month after all the costs of running it.
User avatar #72 to #63 - BraindeadBuddha (10/03/2013) [-]
Agreed. Whats needed is a much higher tax and complete universal healthcare so no one has to buy insurance and no one will have to live with and die younger because of curable diseases. Imagine that. What a beautiful thing that would be.
User avatar #75 to #72 - heartlessrobot (10/03/2013) [-]
Too bad it would never work. To increase taxes to the point where it would actually pay for any procedure needed would also raise taxes to the point where it would cripple the working class and send thousands into poverty. Unless of course you wish to lower Doctor's wages to the point where they might as well be flipping burgers for the money they're making.
#76 to #75 - BraindeadBuddha (10/03/2013) [-]
Except it totally works in many other countries. Many with much higher living standards than the US. So there's that.
#81 to #76 - freedomwitness (10/03/2013) [-]
some country we protect with our military at no cost to them
User avatar #99 to #81 - kinginyellow (10/03/2013) [-]
Like Canada? You don't protect us, we can handle ourselves. Plus the only enemies we'd have would be because we're stuck connected to US
User avatar #79 to #76 - heartlessrobot (10/03/2013) [-]
Those are also countries that aren't 8 trillion dollars into debt because they haven't been fighting for and against sand niggers for several years. Taxes are already rather high to fund the military that's defending Muslims from other Muslims.
#83 to #79 - BraindeadBuddha (10/03/2013) [-]
Yeah, that's also not true, Denmark for example has been involved in all the recent military operations of the US. Iraq, Afghanistan as well as Libya through NATO and so forth. And not just for fun, send more soldiers to Afghanistan than the US per capita.
Who am I kidding. I didn't expect you to know what you're talking about.
You're entitled to your opinion, but just try and read up on stuff before you argue that's all.
User avatar #84 to #83 - heartlessrobot (10/03/2013) [-]
That's per capita. That means percentage of population. When you take into account GDP, actual number of troops sent in, amount of tanks, planes, and boats, the US has contributed about 70% of all forces sent to the middle east. Also, we have a very large number of welfare leeches who are not contributing to society, we import most goods and only really export raw materials, we're putting ourselves down the shitter and this "Affordable" healthcare act will only make us go to shit even faster.
User avatar #92 to #84 - BraindeadBuddha (10/03/2013) [-]
Yes, I'm aware you carried the bulk, but the US is also the much larger country, (nearly 300 million people as compared to 6 million) point is, a country, albeit smaller, has universal healthcare and contributes to military operations all over the world alongside the US.

Also, these so called "leeches" are definitely not covered as well as the less fortunate are in countries with a Scandinavian welfare model, which of course puts a much higher strain on the economy so again, I can see what you're getting at, but I disagree.
And maybe it's my mistake for trying to make Americans see the benefits of this model.

I'm glad I live where I live is all, and I'm sorry for Americans and their problems, and although there are many factors that cause these, it seems to be mainly the extremely high inequality some of which would be changed with healthcare reform in my opinion.
I can for the life of me not see why anyone thinks Obamacare is a bad idea, but such is American conservatism I suppose.

I hope it'll be sorted out nonetheless, also for my Aunt and Uncle and their family and friend's sake.
User avatar #82 to #79 - cityofechoes (10/03/2013) [-]
Every poorly managed country is going to have debt, but the Federal Reserve has a bigger role in our current debt problem than mismanagement. Bring back government issued currency and we wouldn't be swimming in debt.
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