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GoT Alignment. I know theres a lot to discuss. LAWFUL GOOD The man who passes judgement should swing the sword" LAWFUL NEUTRAL The Iron Throne is mine by rights

I know theres a lot to discuss

LAWFUL GOOD
The man who passes judgement
should swing the sword"
LAWFUL NEUTRAL
The Iron Throne is mine by rights.
All those who deny that are my
foes"
A Lannister always pays his
debts"
I will not let those I have freed slide
back into chains."
Ply,
Never forget who you are, for
surely the world won' t"
A bag of dragons buys a man' s silence for
a while, but a quarrel buys it
forever"
I want to fight for the side, that fights
for the living.''
Tm the same as you . The only dif-
Terence is, I don' t lie about what I
Everyone is mine to torment"
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#44 - RandomFlavs (03/06/2015) [-]
<Rhyme about Stannis being a man>
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#17 - lordlad (03/05/2015) [-]
stannis for iron throne
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User avatar #35 to #17 - chasboh (03/06/2015) [-]
Stannis The Mannis

Stannis the Mannis
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#47 to #17 - anon (03/06/2015) [-]
John Snow is the real King!
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User avatar #57 to #47 - jusktiinah (03/06/2015) [-]
Jon Snow is dead.
oops, spoiler
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#60 to #57 - slackerbro (03/06/2015) [-]
Only read up to book 6, but couldn't resist Wiki'ing.
I thought he was only dying in the last book, not yet completely dead. Though from what I heard, I didn't think he'd be getting up from being stabbed a few dozen times...
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User avatar #67 to #60 - jusktiinah (03/06/2015) [-]
Yeah, especially with Melisandre at the wall...
You read to book 6? So you're from germany?
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#71 to #67 - slackerbro (03/06/2015) [-]
Belgium actually.
I don't know how you made that assumption though, it's been like 5 years ago.
When "A dance of dragons" finally came out, it had been so long that I just didn't care anymore.
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User avatar #74 to #71 - jusktiinah (03/07/2015) [-]
Easy. In the English version its only 5 books.
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#76 to #74 - slackerbro (03/07/2015) [-]
That's strange, since I read them in English.
You're the second person who's mentionned me this though. I guess in the story's been split up in various parts, depending on edition or publisher then. Weird...
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User avatar #22 to #17 - HarvietheDinkle (03/06/2015) [-]
Stannis the Mannis with the Plannis
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#24 to #22 - hillbillypowpow ONLINE (03/06/2015) [-]
The Bro-atheon baratheon
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#28 - Lambert (03/06/2015) [-]
&quot;I will not let those freed slide back into chains&quot; she says as she randomly slaughters the nobles of the city without actually figuring which ones disagreed with cruelty towards slave or even the slave trade in general. Dany has done some good things back she has also kind of taken on a smug, I'm always right, my moral crusade makes me punish without actually considering the ramifications of what I'm doing sort of vibe. [spoiler] Stannis the Mannis for king[spoiler]
"I will not let those freed slide back into chains" she says as she randomly slaughters the nobles of the city without actually figuring which ones disagreed with cruelty towards slave or even the slave trade in general.

Dany has done some good things back she has also kind of taken on a smug, I'm always right, my moral crusade makes me punish without actually considering the ramifications of what I'm doing sort of vibe.

[spoiler] Stannis the Mannis for king[spoiler]
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#46 to #28 - sacrilegious (03/06/2015) [-]
I think that was rather the point ... have you finished that season yet?
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#49 to #46 - Lambert (03/06/2015) [-]
It just funny that they point that line on the alignment chart while saying that she is Neutral Good. Some of the lines are not appropriate contextually.
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#48 to #46 - Lambert (03/06/2015) [-]
Yes
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#2 - bigmanblue (03/05/2015) [-]
yeah deanerys is not good
shes evil or at least closer to evil then good
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User avatar #25 to #2 - undeadmaus (03/06/2015) [-]
daenerys is a dumb bitch
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User avatar #69 to #2 - sirformidio (03/06/2015) [-]
Daenarys is more Chaotic Good than Neutral Good, whereas Jon is more Neutral Good than Chaotic Good. Slight misstep.
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User avatar #58 to #2 - jusktiinah (03/06/2015) [-]
Did you read the books or watch the show? Because I haven't seen S04 yet but I've read all of the books, and Dany fits Neutral Good. She doesn't, at any point, want to declare war, war just happens to her and she happens to win. Like, honestly. You see someone approaching you with an army and dragons? Nah, just declare war on them, seems like a good idea. Every master who died deserves it, I mean, come on. She offered you peace.
Also, per se Dany has to be good as she IS most likely the prince that was promised.
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User avatar #64 to #58 - evilmagic (03/06/2015) [-]
Wanting to do war=/=being evil. There are good reasons to declare war and there are bad reasons.
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User avatar #68 to #64 - jusktiinah (03/06/2015) [-]
Nah, a warmongering country is nearly always evil. The galactic Empire? Evil. Mordor? Evil. If you read fictional literature, the ones that lead into war are always evil.
Not so in real life, but GoT is way far away from my real life.
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#15 to #2 - igelior (03/05/2015) [-]
wouldn't agree - she cares about her subjects and freed a whole lot of slaves - she did kill their masters though but then again they would have been pretty dangerous in the future and they committed atrocities against the slaves before

(spoiler in case there is still someone out there who hasn't watched the show up to now)
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#18 to #15 - bigmanblue (03/06/2015) [-]
she butchers vast numbers of people
overthrows cities and leaves them in chaos leaving new worse people to take over in many of them and wants to invade and the 7 kingdoms and rule because .....well......she wants to
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User avatar #23 to #18 - themongoose (03/06/2015) [-]
not because she wants to, but because she has legal right to rule. When you kill a king, you better make sure you kill the entire family because they end up coming back for the throne. Especially when their homies are dragons and people who have sex with horses.
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#29 to #23 - Lambert (03/06/2015) [-]
She has a legal right rule in Westeros. She is taking over cities because she doesn't like the slave trade and wants to get rid. In other words because she wants to.
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User avatar #32 to #29 - themongoose (03/06/2015) [-]
ah true, i missed the 7 Kingdoms part.

But hey, no one really calls Alexander the Great evil - Daeny is just expanding her empire. Doesn't mean she's evil.
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#34 to #32 - Lambert (03/06/2015) [-]
We don't call them evil because what they did was impersonal to us. It happened a long time ago on the other side of the world (depending on where you are from). With Dany we have an objective view what she is doing, even if we then interpret here actions from our point of view.

I also don't think she is evil but she makes everything very personal and tends to go overboard and/or act without really thinking about the repercussions because she is inexperienced. Even if her intentions are positive she is still doing bad **** at the same time as she is doing good **** , so I wouldn't call her good. Few people in Westeros or Essos are objectively good.
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User avatar #36 to #34 - themongoose (03/06/2015) [-]
I see your point, but I'm kind of a Marxist, so i kinda dig the whole revolution/free the slaves/humans are all equal thing.
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#38 to #36 - Lambert (03/06/2015) [-]
I get that and I agree that "slavery is bad/ **** this the nobility can do whatever it wants to the lower class with no ramifications" but she is doing it in a really ineffective way to a society that is not ready for that.

For example she left a freed city of slaves behind her and it immediately got taken over by a new tyrant.
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User avatar #37 to #36 - themongoose (03/06/2015) [-]
Also, I'm expecting some interesting things out of the next book. Dance with Dragons was disappointing, especially after having to wait YEARS for it. I haven't watched to show so I don't know where you are with her story.
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#40 to #37 - Lambert (03/06/2015) [-]
I read the books (awhile ago) but I'm fairly familiar with her whole plot line.
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User avatar #41 to #40 - themongoose (03/06/2015) [-]
Ah ok.

She's impetuous, fiery, but she honestly believes she's doing the right thing. That's what I like about her. She's looking to upset the balance and make a statement. Like you say, her biggest problem is that she does things on a whim which, in a Game of Thrones, doesn't really work. I know she will be in the end game and most likely with Jon REAL SPOILER -> except the part where he got stabbed by the black brothers , but how she gets there remains to be seen.
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#42 to #41 - Lambert (03/06/2015) [-]
Alright, I can't really disagree with that because its your opinion (well I could but there is no point because this about interpretation of a fictional characters). She will probably be in the end game but I feel like its primarily a fan interpretation that she will end up with Jon. With George RR Martin you can never really be sure.
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User avatar #43 to #42 - themongoose (03/06/2015) [-]
Ain't that the truth. Frickin Ned, Man. You just never know.
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#19 to #15 - anon (03/06/2015) [-]
shes a self righteous and self entitled bitch
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#33 - I Am Monkey (03/06/2015) [-]
Chaotic Evil: Ramsay Bolton &quot;I will cut off your dick because&quot;
Chaotic Evil: Ramsay Bolton
"I will cut off your dick because"
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User avatar #39 to #33 - poccylane (03/06/2015) [-]
Yeah Ramsay is a ******* ass for all the **** in the main series, but I can never forget what that little **** did to Ethan.
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#45 to #33 - phobiaexposure (03/06/2015) [-]
I saw it more like &quot;I will cut your dick off to make my daddy proud.&quot;
I saw it more like "I will cut your dick off to make my daddy proud."
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#59 to #33 - slackerbro (03/06/2015) [-]
OMG. Simon from Misfits is in GoT?!
And he's evil?!

I guess Nathan really got to him in the end...
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#51 - stianan (03/06/2015) [-]
stannis the mannis with the plannis
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#16 - khepri ONLINE (03/05/2015) [-]
Stannis the Mannis, one true king of Westeros.
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#21 to #16 - sideoffreedom (03/06/2015) [-]
Thats my Steam name
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#50 - WAKEFIELD (03/06/2015) [-]
Wait, why is Tyrion the only one in the middle column that has a true trait?
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#52 to #50 - justabass (03/06/2015) [-]
Just different naming conventions. True Neutral sounds better than Neutral Neutral, I guess.
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User avatar #53 to #52 - WAKEFIELD (03/06/2015) [-]
Why aren't the others' true good and true evil? Surely it's no surprise that petyr is true evil.
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#55 to #53 - justabass (03/06/2015) [-]
It's purely a naming convention. There isn't really any particular reason to it. I personally like it as it is - it makes visualizing a 3x3 grid (as the content) simpler. Not all D&D editions use the same alignment notations, though. Fourth Edition simplified things to Chaotic Evil, Evil, Neutral, Good, and Lawful Good.
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#66 - legionex (03/06/2015) [-]
Comment Picture
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#30 - tnzeratul ONLINE (03/06/2015) [-]
Whens the next season? i need to mentally prepare . . .my torrents since i dont get the channel on tv
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User avatar #65 to #30 - evilmagic (03/06/2015) [-]
April 12th I believe is the start of the new season
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#73 to #65 - tnzeratul ONLINE (03/06/2015) [-]
thanks
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#20 - thehalfman (03/06/2015) [-]
Well, what can I say. The world hates a dwarf. It's better to wear it like armor so that it can't hurt you.
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User avatar #1 - turtletroll ONLINE (03/05/2015) [-]
stannis is pretty evil though

Burning everyone under him who doesn't worship the lord of light
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#3 to #1 - roosterblah (03/05/2015) [-]
The mannis only ever burns people after they have committed a crime. If he burned people who didn't worship the lord of light davos wouldn't be alive. Targarayans fed people to dragons, starks cut peoples heads off, the mannis burns people. every body executes people differently.
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User avatar #4 to #3 - turtletroll ONLINE (03/05/2015) [-]
He tried to kill Gendry for his kings blood.

He rounded up all the none believers in dragon stone and burnt them as an offering so he can complete the sacrifices needed to relight his sword lightbringer.
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User avatar #27 to #4 - undeadmaus (03/06/2015) [-]
He tried to do that because the red woman told him to and she has helped him a lot. Also she might have questionable methods but she's actually doing the world a service by directing attention to the imminent white walker invasion.
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#5 to #4 - roosterblah (03/05/2015) [-]
i only remember him burning the statues of the seven for that, but if he did burn actual people i would imagine they were criminals. and are we going off book or show because you said gendry and he only got leaches on the dick.
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User avatar #6 to #5 - turtletroll ONLINE (03/05/2015) [-]
They said they needed more but Davos helped him escape because he didn't want him to be killed for his kings blood stannis needed more

And it was melisandre who burnt the non believers but he also didn't do **** about it because he thinks he needs it to become this chosen one
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#7 to #6 - roosterblah (03/05/2015) [-]
can you give me a chapter or episode where the non believers are burnt, because as it stands i can only find 7 ( alester florent, who was a traitor, guncer sunglass (stannis wasn't present for that his wife ordered it, rattleshirt, two murderers, and 3 cannibals.
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User avatar #8 to #7 - turtletroll ONLINE (03/05/2015) [-]
Okay you're right it's been a while since I re read the books

I think in the books it's Edric Storm he tried to kill not Gendry but in the show it's gendry for some reason
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#9 to #8 - roosterblah (03/05/2015) [-]
yeah davos got him the **** out of dodge. show stannis is kind of a prick. like he didn't try to kill davos after he let edric go and **** . it was more like "dude what the **** " and davos was all like "i didn't want you to murder your nephew and **** " and mannis was all like "hey thanks duder lets go merc wildlings up at the wall"
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User avatar #10 to #9 - turtletroll ONLINE (03/05/2015) [-]
he did put him in jail for a while and said if they didn't get the loan from the iron bank he would kill davos

Got to feel kind of bad for him. Plays a huge part in the revolt and then gets shafted out of the stormlands
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#11 to #10 - roosterblah (03/05/2015) [-]
i thought he put him in jail after he tried to shank melisandre
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User avatar #12 to #11 - turtletroll ONLINE (03/05/2015) [-]
I thought it was for letting gendry/edric go
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#13 to #12 - roosterblah (03/05/2015) [-]
there is a chance we are both right
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User avatar #14 to #13 - turtletroll ONLINE (03/05/2015) [-]
In the show it was definitely because of the eric/gendry thing

Eitherway there aren't many people in GoT who aren't evil. Robb Stark and that's pretty much it for the leaders
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#54 - anon (03/06/2015) [-]
jon snow dies at the end of book 5.
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#56 - anon (03/06/2015) [-]
Aegon Targaryen (nephew of Daenerys) is not dead. He meets Tyrion in the next season and he comes back to Westeros to fight for the iron throne.
Kevan Lannister will be killed by Varys.
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#63 - redbannerman (03/06/2015) [-]
Trying to read the series and compare it to the show is ******* pointless. The characters are almost portrayed completely different from each other.... Except Joffrey. Joffrey's still a cunt. And, ho boy look at dem spoilers.
Trying to read the series and compare it to the show is ******* pointless. The characters are almost portrayed completely different from each other.... Except Joffrey. Joffrey's still a cunt. And, ho boy look at dem spoilers.
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User avatar #62 - notmadguy (03/06/2015) [-]
Tywin isn't even a bad guy though...
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#70 to #62 - snoozecriminal [OP](03/06/2015) [-]
I was thinking about it, maybe he's Lawful Neutral, but he seems pretty evil to many people.
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User avatar #72 to #62 - stifflimb (03/06/2015) [-]
Considering how selfish and greedy he is I would not place him in neutral or good, he's somewhere between evil and neutral.
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User avatar #61 - alfrebecht (03/06/2015) [-]
No offense, but this may be one of the worst representations of D&D morality I've ever seen.
Ok, some offense. This is awful. <Maybe> three of these are right.
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#31 - anon (03/06/2015) [-]
switch dragon mom and jon sneeeeeeeeeeew because she does whatever the hell she wants and hes more straight laced but bends the rules more than his dad.
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#26 - reycall (03/06/2015) [-]
I respectfully disagree with your opinion on who fits where on this chart. especially for Tyrion, Snow, and Tywin. I will proceed to continue with the customs of our people and make fun of you with a silly image. &gt;how my experience of this post went
I respectfully disagree with your opinion on who fits where on this chart. especially for Tyrion, Snow, and Tywin.

I will proceed to continue with the customs of our people and make fun of you with a silly image.

>how my experience of this post went
 
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