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#30 - themiddlegarden (09/19/2015) [-]
Is that head ok?
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#42 to #30 - shaddz ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
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User avatar #17 - willindor ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
I saw Hamlet a couple of weeks ago
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#38 - puttman (09/19/2015) [-]
Mexico
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#82 to #38 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
Yep, just google "Mexican four women" and you'll want to build the biggest wall ever between us and Mexico.
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User avatar #126 to #82 - vortexrain (09/20/2015) [-]
**** it, might as well.
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User avatar #127 to #126 - vortexrain (09/20/2015) [-]
Aight, that was something.
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User avatar #135 to #127 - majormoron (09/20/2015) [-]
I just got on the ******* internet and I already want to get off

I actually feel a bit sick
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#116 to #82 - stonecore (09/20/2015) [-]
Why you suggest looking that up?
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#2 - Sperit ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
a little off topic
How would a modern crusade work?
Would the Vatican take money from all of their donations or would co-operating countries donate?
and would they hire people and train them or have militias?
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User avatar #98 to #2 - norkasthethird (09/19/2015) [-]
Europe is too secular for a Crusade to be politically viable, sadly.
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#122 to #98 - anon (09/20/2015) [-]
"sadly"
Yeah it's so sad that people don't condone the murder or even genocide of innocents anymore.
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User avatar #125 to #122 - norkasthethird (09/20/2015) [-]
"murder"
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User avatar #124 to #122 - norkasthethird (09/20/2015) [-]
"genocide"
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User avatar #123 to #122 - norkasthethird (09/20/2015) [-]
"innocents"
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User avatar #47 to #2 - theoldfritz (09/19/2015) [-]
Thats debateable, but i think that it wont be that monotoneus
East German neonazi style - Burn down azylant centers like in Lubeck 1996, mass protestations, knock-on door assassinations, small organised bands attacking
Croatian spring style - fought outside of the borders, kidnapping political officials, plane hijacking, single person shootings, foreign support gathering
Reformation style(aka Attack on the Hugenotes) - mass open attacks on streets, blood and gore everywhere

Or just wait another year, in 2014 if someone would talk about white genocide, islamists and similar things, he would be proclaimed a nazi or a retard, now its a accepted tought.
This time is similar like the 1920 or even th fall of rome, economical crisis, muslims instead of jews, immigrants instead of barbarians
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User avatar #15 to #2 - vladhellsing (09/19/2015) [-]
The pope would probably just throw some holy water on a nuke.
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User avatar #53 to #2 - upunkpunk (09/19/2015) [-]
Just pay and arm a bunch of "moderate" rebels to overthrow the secular government.
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#77 to #2 - hollowedsouls (09/19/2015) [-]
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**hollowedsouls used "*roll picture*"**
**hollowedsouls rolled image**a modern crusade would be america, the uk or russia saying " **** it, i can't deal with those muslim pricks anymore" and launching some nukes but only after the vatican can no longer tolerate this **** but thats my optinion
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User avatar #86 to #2 - mrwalkerfour ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
the pope declares the crusade on (location)

this means all christian nations are obligated to aid in the crusade and fight, or you lose favour with the church (this was a BIG deal back in the day, it would maek your country an enemy of all christian natiosn adn therefore free game to be invaded)

these nations would send an army to (location) to fight
all christian nations in crusade are allies regardless of disagreements, and must work together for god.

once (location) has been culturally enriched by the christians, crusade is declared over and everyone goes home


in modern times, it wouldnt work, nobody is inclined to follow the orders of the papacy, so nobody would heed the call to arms

maybe religious zealots, small groups of people would do it, but these would be few and likely just mentally retarded people who dont know what theyre doing.

in the end though i imaghine the pope would be "kindly dealt with" by the other arch bishops, and a new pope would be elected.
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User avatar #99 to #86 - angelious ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
"few groups"


dude...there are literally millions of people who follow christianity to their blood and bone who hold money, influence and military experience under their belt who would gladly jump at the joy to go kill people in the name of god..
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#100 to #99 - bann (09/19/2015) [-]
This is true, but most of the church's supporters would condone that kind of behavior, probably losing them donations overall.

Also, I think that would make them a terrorist group.
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User avatar #101 to #100 - angelious ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
kind of like isis. which is pretty much how modern day crusade would look alike...except maybe with a tad more funding considering the starting points of the two..well except for an organization the size of isis to rise there needs to be a huge power vaccuum in the general area it originates..and we dont have that in europe.


still. you get the general idea.
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#102 to #101 - bann (09/19/2015) [-]
Yea, it would be silly looking in the end. Better to just let them tear themselves apart and defend the borders.
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User avatar #103 to #102 - angelious ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
not gonna work with terrorist organizations tho...its a newer type of warfare that still doesnt really have a solid defense to...other than completely closing the borders to the terrorist country..and even that wouldnt work since any muslim could be a terrorist..and then we would have to go into semantics about that so...
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User avatar #109 to #86 - tzukaza (09/19/2015) [-]
would be a way to get rid of westboro once and for all, those fanatics would probably do it and die
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User avatar #110 to #109 - mrwalkerfour ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
i dont think they recognise the pope, considering he agrees with evolution, and isnt telling gay people they should die
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User avatar #32 to #2 - lilRican (09/19/2015) [-]
Sperit, we get it, you dont like brown people, but you dont need to make a comment about it every refugee post
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#39 to #32 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
It's funny because he's a beaner.

:^)
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User avatar #44 to #39 - lilRican (09/19/2015) [-]
And it also doesnt make any difference anyway
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User avatar #40 to #39 - lilRican (09/19/2015) [-]
He still does the same thing though
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User avatar #5 to #2 - vorarephilia ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
Good question. It's not like back in the middle ages where swinging a sword was the most skill needed, guns require a day of training at least to know what you are doing with no prior experience. even then you aren't going to be accurate.

As for supplies, either a country would donate weapons or the vatican would have to buy them with donation money, citing complaints abroad about "muh starving children"
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User avatar #118 to #5 - logiblack (09/20/2015) [-]
Swinging a sword is not necessarily easier than fighting with guns.
And on top of just swinging it wildly you need a high endurance.
Also Archers. Which takes significantly more time to be any good in battle.
Which is why we switched to guns in the first place - it's easier to learn how t effectively use a gun than it is to use a bow. The potential to kill lots of stuff very quickly came later on and only added to the benefits of a gun.
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User avatar #21 to #2 - logicstrike (09/19/2015) [-]
I'd be more curious as to how the UN would sanction it
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User avatar #31 to #21 - capps (09/19/2015) [-]
But my guess would be the crusade would be made by the western countries, who basically controls the UN?
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User avatar #33 to #31 - logicstrike (09/19/2015) [-]
but it would be clared by the pope from vatican city, tecnically not a country, than it would be voluntary participation I guess so really it would come down to how that is dealt with
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User avatar #3 to #2 - stealingbikes [OP](09/19/2015) [-]
Dunno why you got red thumbed for asking a question, but I guess such is life on FJ.

TBH I've never really thought of HOW a modern crusade would happen. It is an interesting subject to ponder though.
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User avatar #4 to #3 - mrtophaat (09/19/2015) [-]
indeed
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#7 to #2 - lulzdealer ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
It can't.

The Pope has to call for it, and Francis is a hardcore pacifist.

Don't get me wrong, he's a good man as far as Popes go, but he lacks the backbone to call modern Christendom to arms.
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User avatar #8 to #7 - Sperit ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
All men have to fight at one point
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User avatar #10 to #7 - arkis ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
Even if he had the backbone for that I doubt it would work, its not like in the old days where the pope was basically emperor of the bible thumping world, not as many people would follow suit if he ordered a crusade for a number of reasons. That being said, any war were religious people go to kill one another in non nuclear( long term world destroying) fashion is good in my book, but thats just my two cents
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#129 to #10 - anon (09/20/2015) [-]
"People should die simply for believing differently than me"
-You.
And don't say "only the radicals would be fighting and dying," because innocents suffer more than anyone in times of war.
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User avatar #156 to #129 - arkis ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
No it has nothing to do with different belief systems it has to do with the clear and present way that religion inflicts harms on the bodies and minds of people under it, stifling free thought by shunning dissenting views with fear of exile and or death, telling people that all their answers lie in books that preach tons about hatred and murder, while typically simultaneously saying you shouldn't hate and murder. All religions indoctrinate young for a reason because an older mind is harder to convince and lacks the ingrained convictions of someone who was force fed this clap trap while young. All religions have brought about murder, lots of it, in both murder of the religious person for their beliefs, and murder by the religious person for their beliefs.

I did not say they HAD to die, but that kind of brainwashing is to hard for most to undo or cast aside, it typically has been forcefully merged into most if not all aspects of their daily lives, and asking them to give it up would be akin to asking them to stop breathing. No matter how you slice it, religion how outlived any purpose it could have had to humanity and is now hampering progress with his stagnated and very dangerous belief system. There is a reason religion is grossly made up of the poor and or uneducated.
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#14 to #7 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
Backbone?

More like he lacks the stupidity.
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User avatar #121 to #14 - lulzdealer ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
Oh come now, with the rising threat of militant Islam can you really tell me there would be nothing to benefit from a united coalition of Christian warriors?
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User avatar #34 to #7 - forsakenas (09/19/2015) [-]
The pope can't even persuade catholics not to use condoms but he's gonna convince all christians to start WWIII? Get real, ***** .
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#18 to #7 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
Religion has to stay out of politcs what the **** .
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#19 to #7 - pureevil ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
That gif, I don't get it. The Aug is ambidextrous... The ejection port can be changed tot he other side. Why would you purposedly get hit in the face with shells?!
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User avatar #22 to #19 - roliga (09/19/2015) [-]
Because he's showing what it would be like it it wasn't ambi, it literally takes the smallest amount of common sense to grasp that.
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User avatar #23 to #22 - pureevil ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
Okay, thanks a lot. Could've been done without hitting yourself in the face repeatedly, but fair enough. No need to be an ass about it. Then again, you are quite the ass, I hear.
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User avatar #24 to #23 - roliga (09/19/2015) [-]
People don't like me because I call out stupid people for being stupid, something most people don't do.
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User avatar #25 to #24 - pureevil ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
Wow, our saviour. I hope it comes back to bite you in the ass at some point.
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User avatar #26 to #25 - roliga (09/19/2015) [-]
Don't worry, it wont.
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User avatar #27 to #26 - pureevil ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
Yeah, keep believing that.
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#48 to #27 - notajewishfag (09/19/2015) [-]
Seems like the kinda guy who doesn't tip waitresses/waiters
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User avatar #28 to #27 - roliga (09/19/2015) [-]
I've lived 25 years without it biting me in the ass, so I will, thank you.
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User avatar #11 to #7 - dellexe (09/19/2015) [-]
As a lefty shooter who'd like to shoot one of those one day....
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User avatar #41 to #2 - klina (09/19/2015) [-]
i'd join
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#85 to #2 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
A modern crusade would look a little like this
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User avatar #35 to #2 - dreadnaor (09/19/2015) [-]
I guess the Pope would call for one. After the initial outrage , a small militia of fanatics would form , and would go towards the middle east , possibly trying to help Nato forces with low priority tasks and some peacekeeping stuff. From there it has the potential to degenerate into terrorism or some other **** we would not remember fondly.
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#52 to #2 - vladi ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
No need for the Vatican, got you covered bro.
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User avatar #37 to #2 - riggyrigs (09/19/2015) [-]
a modern crusade wouldn't work since it's pretty retarded
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#43 to #2 - murrlogic ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
Bruh

Hellsing even joked about this

>Oh I get it This here...IS A CRUDAE
>No Alexander that is politically incorrect. What do the American Pigs call it again?
>Peacekeeping?
>YES!
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User avatar #50 to #43 - alucardexplain (09/19/2015) [-]
That was Hellsing Ultimate Abridged.
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User avatar #57 to #50 - captainprincess (09/19/2015) [-]
better than the real show, arguably
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User avatar #90 to #57 - mrwalkerfour ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
id definately fund a full season and full episodes dubbed by the abridged guy,
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#83 to #2 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
Pretty much this, then 200 years of us bemoaning whether or not we made the right decision.
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User avatar #51 to #2 - andriod (09/19/2015) [-]
Vatican City is filthy rich. Just the sect that operates in the US pulls in nearly 200 billion per year. The Vatican would have no issues with funding a fighting force. Infact it would probably more well supplied then a great deal of nations
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User avatar #56 to #2 - kijajouteh (09/19/2015) [-]
how would a modern fag work

just read your comment history
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User avatar #45 to #2 - kristovsky (09/19/2015) [-]
We have been crusading the middle east since the 80's, only this time it's capitalism and democracy we are forcing on them not Christianity.
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User avatar #49 to #2 - failtolawl ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
considering the Templars and Hospitallar were nothing more than faith mercenaries and banks, yea I'm sure something like that would exist. I'm not sure how well the U.N. or NATO would think of them though.
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User avatar #12 to #2 - wedgehead (09/19/2015) [-]
Probably only by having hardcore christian being placed in a high ranking government position, who will then perform the crusade disguised as "anti terror war" or something.
But a real crusade that gets openly called like that isn't possible. Too many people would be against a holy war today.
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#54 to #2 - johndearc (09/19/2015) [-]
A Modern Crusade would be relatively difficult to pull off, though not impossible.

I think that since there hasn't been a Crusade in a long, long, time we should start off with examining the First Crusade:

To set some things in order, Muslims had been killing Christian Pilgrims to the Holy Land for quite some time. In addition, they were destroying Christian Holy sites (such as the Church of the Holy Sepulcher). To give it some context, the Church of the Holy Sepulcher is also called Calvary and is the place where it is believed Jesus was buried and subsequently resurrected.

The Church didn't call for a Crusade, even at this point. Byzantine Emperor Alexios called for help from all of what is now Turkey to fight off the invading Seljuqs. A short time later, he appealed to Pope Urban II for help defending his territory. The Pope agreed and went to his homeland of France to ask for support. It all cascaded from there into the First Crusade.

Therefore, I would suggest that for a Modern Crusade to happen, a country held in high regard by Catholics would need to be in immediate danger. In addition, major Christian Holy Sites would need to be at stake. The person who runs this country/state would need to then appeal to the Pope for help, who would then work on gaining support from countries around the world.

While I am not sure when/if this will happen, and I'm not too confident about my theory-crafting/guesswork to predict the future, I think the most likely candidate would involve Israel under direct assault by ISIS or some other group like it.

The reasons for this are multiple: Israel is a pilgrimage site for many Christians, and home to some of the holiest sites in Christiandom. It is run by a Jewish government, yes, but appealing to the Pope for help would probably come around the same time, if not at the same time as a request for aid from the United States. In the modern world, some of the most devout Catholic countries are in the Americas. If Pope Francis were to appeal to them for aid, there would no doubt be a horde of people willing to stand up and offer that assistance from South America. The US population of Catholics would join due to the current US culture of treating Middle Eastern people/Muslims as suspicious/enemies anyway mixed with an appeal from the Pope.

Christiandom takes a long time to get pissed off enough to Crusade, but when it does, it is a force to be reckoned with.

Personally, I do not think a Crusade would happen in our lifetimes unless things escalate dramatically in the near future, but then again, it can be hard to predict such things in my opinion.
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User avatar #55 to #54 - heine (09/19/2015) [-]
u smart
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#88 to #55 - verrek (09/19/2015) [-]
Click to show spoiler
u loyal
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User avatar #89 to #54 - mrwalkerfour ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
itll njever happen, the papacy is not what it once was.

back in those days what they said went, ther papacy would essentially use religion to guilt trip nations into fighting, "if you dont fight for us you are an enemy of god)= we will get the rest of europe to invade you

so by doing this they got the crusades going

but the pope doesnt hold that sway over the nations now, if he called for crusade hed likely just get diposed and replaced because theyd assume hes gone a little mental.
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#107 to #89 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
If someone were able to convince the majority of the leaders in the Vatican it could happen, but their funding would be through donations and their soldiers/support would be from volunteers.
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#62 - vortix (09/19/2015) [-]
when was the last time you saw anyone other than a white guy shooting a school? sorry but i have to ask.
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#80 to #62 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
when was the last time you saw anyone other than a white AMERICAN guy shooting a school?
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#84 to #62 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
Umm... almost every ******* day in Chicago and Detroit. Usually a nig-nog who kills the wrong person in a cowardly assed drive by shooting.
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User avatar #70 to #62 - sketchE (09/19/2015) [-]
virginia tech is the first one that comes to mind
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#66 to #65 - vortix (09/19/2015) [-]
its a joke mate.
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#72 to #66 - Jeff C (09/19/2015) [-]
"When have you seen a non white guy school shooter? I just had to ask"
Gets list
"It was a joke bro"
????
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#73 to #72 - vortix (09/19/2015) [-]
sorry, ill never make a joke again. Jesus.
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#74 to #73 - Jeff C (09/19/2015) [-]
No ones saying you shouldn't, just maybe indicate it's a joke next time lol
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User avatar #75 to #74 - vortix (09/19/2015) [-]
the original picture had a comment in it saying " sorry but i had to ask," right under the picture. i was making fun of that. i thought it would be clear.
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#76 to #75 - Jeff C (09/19/2015) [-]
Oooooo, I didnt see that. See now I feel silly
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#68 to #66 - theinvisibletheift (09/19/2015) [-]
Ah. Thought you were genuinely curious based on the other spoiler you left.
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#20 - PSpepper (09/19/2015) [-]
Various serial killers and cannibals.
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#71 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
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#46 - concetrationcamp (09/19/2015) [-]
germany is the next sweden
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#114 to #46 - anon (09/20/2015) [-]
Why you block?
myreadyassyolk
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#79 - garlikk (09/19/2015) [-]
yeesh, talk about "Illegal Aliens".
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#78 - rototornjik (09/19/2015) [-]
pretty sure these too are kebab

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User avatar #92 - ImmortalBaconEater (09/19/2015) [-]
Give the cartel and all the warlords in africa some respect. geeze.
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User avatar #1 - anonymoussarcasm (09/19/2015) [-]
It is becoming very clear that I am going to have pull a Christopher McCandless and move to Alaska to be alone in order to escape all of this other ********
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User avatar #93 to #1 - dorfdorfdorf (09/19/2015) [-]
and then they came for alaska

and there was no one to stand up for me
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User avatar #6 to #1 - vorarephilia ONLINE (09/19/2015) [-]
**** off I had that Idea first. Nome Alaska is mine fgt.
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User avatar #13 to #6 - ifightdragons (09/19/2015) [-]
**** you both im on my way already started in florida now in washington alaska is mine
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#9 to #1 - speedosnake (09/19/2015) [-]
How does the whole " ******** yourself to death" thing factor into all of that?
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User avatar #87 - demandsgayversion (09/19/2015) [-]
I don't see people holding heads very often, so I have to say that question isn't very valid to much of anything.
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#16 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
He's wearing a coca cola shirt
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User avatar #128 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
Can someone explain to me how cutting someones head off is worse than killing them in other ways?
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User avatar #130 to #128 - sugoi (09/20/2015) [-]
Not only are you killing them but you're parading them around like a trophy.
I mean for the person being killed it depends on how quick it is but for the family, friends and what not it's pretty bad.
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User avatar #132 to #130 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
Maybe it's just me, but I'd be more concerned about if he went through a lot of pain (and I'm assuming the decapitations are quick, but I may be wrong) or not mroe than someone parading with it. I understand that it can be more painfull for the fmily, but it seems like we're acting like it's the very action od decapitaction that is bad when a lot of western countries US including has (in my opinion) worse and more painfull ways of killing someone
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User avatar #164 to #132 - cannibalvegan (10/02/2015) [-]
Maybe the other guy already said this, but I don't feel like reading through the whole thread.

Anyway, most decapitations I've seen online has been with a machete or a large knife, I haven't seen any video were someone chops the head off, usually they kind of saw it off. An example would be the American journalist that was beheaded by an ISIS member I think it was fake, but I'm not gonna get into that. where he used a regular knife. It's relatively quick, but it's a pretty horrible way to die, many times worse than a shot to the head. You also have to take into account that the person being executed usually knows it will happen, just imagine laying there waiting for someone to ******* cut your head off, it's a lot worse than being shot in the head.

Also, the way they laugh and throw around your head is degrading, in the 90's some muslims played soccer with the enemies' heads while filming and laughing.
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User avatar #165 to #164 - fishandkids ONLINE (10/02/2015) [-]
No he didn't.

I was talking as a way of gouverment execution and beheadings in general compared to other gouverment executions and not by a vigilantie/terrorist

In my opinion once you're dead you're dead. I couldn't give a **** what soemone does to my corpse. I mean you can cut a hole in by nose have sex with it if you want and I don't care.
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User avatar #134 to #132 - sugoi (09/20/2015) [-]
It's generally quick if you have the right tool, like how in the medieval ages they hade a guillotine or a very big axe to the point of calling it a halberd or something.

These guys are using machetes so I assume it will be a lot slower and thus more painful. Plus a lot of western countries in modern times don't have worse and more painful ways of killing people and that's what we're talking about, modern times. In Murica I'm pretty sure you just get lethal injection which is like going to sleep and most other countries have abolished capital punishment.
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User avatar #137 to #134 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
I thought they used those curved swords that made it really quick, but like I said I might be wrong. They do use injection, but it's not always painless. Very often it is extremly painful for the person dying (we're talking over 7% were botched, compared to 0% of firing squads).
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User avatar #138 to #137 - sugoi (09/20/2015) [-]
I've never seen them in modern times use a curved sword.
You got a picture or something?
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User avatar #139 to #138 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
Never mind I was infact wrong (in the way I thought they did atleast), but it does seem like they use very big, heavy and sharp swords I still think it's the same as lethal injections were almost 8% go wrong.
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User avatar #140 to #139 - sugoi (09/20/2015) [-]
What, they use very big heavy and sharp swords? you got a picture of that? I only see them with machetes.

I can't imagine them using or even getting their hands on a broadsword or something.
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#141 to #140 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
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Not sure if I should post it, but here. They're all black and white for some ******* reason.
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User avatar #142 to #141 - sugoi (09/20/2015) [-]
Maybe because they weren't in modern times which is what we're talking about?
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User avatar #143 to #142 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
They're all in black and white (the ones that look like are done by the gouverment atleast) except movies and simply the pics that are only swords and nothing else. Should also note that most of them hang their people now instead, and that had a higher clear kill procentage than injection.
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User avatar #144 to #143 - sugoi (09/20/2015) [-]
Hanging isn't exactly that much better, if you're unlucky enough not to have your neck snap you get to enjoy being strangled to death.

You keep bringing up lethal injection and kill percentage, are you saying there are people surviving or what? first you said 7% then 8% of them "going wrong" so what, they aren't dying?

It's generally (when it succeeds) less painful than getting your head cut off mate and that's still a 92-93% chance mate.
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User avatar #145 to #144 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
It's still better than leathal injections.

I said higher than 7% and then I said almost 8% and ofcourse I'm bringing up lethal injection when you can easily see that so far that is one of the worst way to kill someone humainly in history.

When I say go wrong, I mean putting the guy that is being killed in a lot of pain.

When you have your head cut off cleanly there's no pain and 93% (let's just use 7% from now on) is still to low.
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User avatar #146 to #145 - sugoi (09/20/2015) [-]
Reaaaaaalllyyy? Worst wawys to kill someone humanely in human history? Are you reaaaallly sure about that?

Crucifixion not that high up there? What about spike through the arse?
Iron Maiden?
Iron Bull?
Drowning?
Quartered?
That Chinese way of having your limbs tied to horses before they run away and rip you apart?

Reaaaallly think lethal injection which puts you to sleep then kills you is one of the worst ways to kill someone humanely in history? are you really sure about that?

They aren't going to cut it cleanly, cutting off a human skull is not that easy, not only do you gotta cut through the skin and muscles but unless you got the sharpest sword around and you're a trained professional, you gotta cut through bone or cartilage which you'll probably miss since you're not a professional so you're gunna have to go scraping their neck till you find the cartilage before sawing through. Why the hell would you ever romanticize beheadings?!
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User avatar #147 to #146 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
Yes those people were really trying to kill people humainly weren't they? When they executed Jesus, they though, "you know what will kill him quickly is? Nailing him to a cross."...

I'm not saying it's good (also that is such a stupid example because now you're talking about random people and terrorist groups in which case I can point out non muslims that have beheaded people in just the US, I'm talking about a gouverment way of execution), I'm saying lethal injection is also easily a very horrible form of execution aswell yet people seem to ignore that. In a lot of cases it dosn't "slowly put you to sleep" it tortures you slowly until you die.
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User avatar #148 to #147 - sugoi (09/20/2015) [-]
Yeah there were bad methods but we're talking about modern! modern!
And you say "in a lot of cases" but even your statistics say it is only in 7-8% of cases, that's not a lot at all!
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User avatar #149 to #148 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
Yes mordern. In which case when trying to kill someone quickly the lethal injection has been less sucessfull than hanging, firing squad, the chair and the ******* gas chamber and so on. And yes 7% is a ******* . 4% would be way to many, 2% would be pushing it.
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User avatar #150 to #149 - sugoi (09/20/2015) [-]
Again you're romanticizing beheadings and everything else.
You for whatever reason assume they will all lead to quick and painless deaths but this may shock you.

Firing squad relies on humans to perform the punishment meaning human error. Not only is there a chance of missing and thus leaving a man shot but alive, but you're leaving the shooters with psychological harm as well what with the whole "my job is just to kill people, I'm not even on a battlefield protecting my country, I just kill people." So have fun with that.

The electric chair? it wasn't uncommon in the least for it to be botched as well leaving the victim to be burned alive instead of shocked and killed and being burned alive is pretty damn bad.

Gas chamber are you kidding me? how slow do you wanna go? but I'll at least give you that it's painless, then again you could just put a plastic bag over their head and get a similar result.

Yes 7% but you wanna know why it was so high? because they were ******* around with which chemicals to use due to shortages and research to find a better chemical to reduce those failure rates.

This whole arguments seems less about humane punishment and muslim beheadings and more about your apparent vendetta against lethal injection.
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User avatar #151 to #150 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
Explain how I'm romaticizing beheadings please.

Funny that it had a 0% failure rate.

Still ****** up far less than lethal injections.

rather take my time and go painless then spend hours in agonizing pain.

Don't **** around with it then and do it proporly and when it get's close to 0% I won't hate it for being such a horrible way of killing someone.

What is it you're not getting? I hate all kinds of executions, I do not hate lethal injections (more than beheadings and so on) I hate the ******* stupid mindset that so many people have that their way of killing people are so better then others.
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User avatar #154 to #151 - sugoi (09/20/2015) [-]
Way to ******* back peddle.

#151 "Funny that it had a 0% failure rate."
#151 "rather take my time and go painless then spend hours in agonizing pain. "
#145 "It's still better than leathal injections. "
#145 "When you have your head cut off cleanly there's no pain"
#128 "Can someone explain to me how cutting someones head off is worse than killing them in other ways?"

You do nothing but ******* praise beheadings as if it's the best way in the world. And so many countries my arse we've only talked about America and people in the Middle East.
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User avatar #155 to #154 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
Talking about firing squads. As a direct argument to your point in #150
Talking about gas chambers. Same #150 (do you even read your own comments)?
Yes, I do think it's better than litheal injection if done properly by trained people and not Ahmed off the street with his kitchen knife.
Talking about how people for some random reason only consider beheadings as horrible. (the thing I said in #153)
Well since most people on this site is from the US and not China, Taiwan or some other asian country I thought it was better to bring up the US as an example.

And again, you miss my point completly. maybe I need to write it in all caps or something. BEHEADINS ARE HORRIBLE, BUT PEOPLE SHOULD STOP ACTING LIKE WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES ARE DOING ARE SO MUCH BETTER WHEN IN FACT THAT IS ALSO INHUMANE AS **** .
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User avatar #152 to #151 - sugoi (09/20/2015) [-]
Because while for lethal injections you consider a "failure" as in "tortures you slowly until you die", you consider beheadings all 100% successful because they all die, completely ignoring the fact that I already explained beheadings rarely go with a quick slice unless you have the proper tools ei a guillotine or a massive halberd esc weapon.

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Take a look, 3:30 nice and quick and painless isn't it?
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User avatar #153 to #152 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
At no point did I ever say it was always a great sure way of executions. The only thing I have ever said in this entire conversation is that lethal injections are ******* horrible aswell and people should get off their ******* high horse when so many countries are doing something so inhumane aswell. That's it, nothing else. In no way are beheadings good, but neither is what the US is doing.
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#131 to #128 - anon (09/20/2015) [-]
The beheading itself isn't the issue. It is the large-scale publicized murder of helpless and restrained innocents.
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User avatar #133 to #131 - fishandkids ONLINE (09/20/2015) [-]
Then shouldn't the point be that and not about the beheading?
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User avatar #117 - letting (09/20/2015) [-]
...Do we tear the heads off of fetuses when we abort them?

If not, I don't understand the comparison.
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User avatar #61 - runescapewasgood (09/19/2015) [-]
weird... it's almost like the media picks certain things to report about..?
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User avatar #67 to #61 - Einsty (09/19/2015) [-]
And it is a problem that needs to be adressed.
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User avatar #69 to #67 - Einsty (09/19/2015) [-]
Wait, that was badly worded. I should stop posting.
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User avatar #91 to #61 - dorfdorfdorf (09/19/2015) [-]
the media is **** , indeed. but islamic terrorism is still a big ****** deal
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User avatar #157 to #91 - runescapewasgood (09/20/2015) [-]
I'm not denying that. But let's get real, it's not the only thing going on in the world.
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User avatar #158 to #157 - dorfdorfdorf (09/20/2015) [-]
there's a lot of problems connected directly to it. europe's refugee crisis, crazy heightened security in the USA
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User avatar #159 to #158 - runescapewasgood (09/20/2015) [-]
i digress, you're right, but we can't forget that much of it was caused by modern western powers to begin with.

it's pretty much them cleaning up a mess that they made
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User avatar #160 to #159 - dorfdorfdorf (09/20/2015) [-]
islamic terrorism......was created by the west

um
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User avatar #161 to #160 - runescapewasgood (09/20/2015) [-]
Have you not read up on the history behind this? Before the early 1800s (pre-imperialistic era), the Middle East was a very peaceful place.

You think terrorist groups just randomly sprung up and started killing people? lol dude
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User avatar #162 to #161 - dorfdorfdorf (09/20/2015) [-]
>middle east
>had a period of peace since the beginning of time

choose well, for you can have only one.
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User avatar #163 to #162 - runescapewasgood (09/20/2015) [-]
That quote came directly from Dr. Richard Bulliet, a professor of history at Columbia University who specializes in the history of Islamic society and institutions, the history of technology, and the history of the role of animals in human society.

Also, Hilal Khashan, a professor of political studies and department chair at the American University of Beirut, would agree with me, as per his book, "Arabs at the Crossroads: Political Identity and Nationalism".
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#36 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
I wish another kind of Hitler would show up instead to kill all Muslims
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#120 - anon (09/20/2015) [-]
Well until you decided to post it in your public feed for everyone to see I'd never seen anyone holding a head, you ******* ass.
And yeah sure, there's no intricacy to this, he simply beheaded that man BECAUSE he's a muslim right?
"Oh I'm a muslim, better behead a guy"
No, not how the world works.
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