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#26 - anonymous (10/15/2013) [-]
No I like what we actually did. **** Japan. They started this **** and we finished it. They deserved it. Don't mess with the bull or else you'll get the horns.
User avatar #31 to #26 - caseris (10/15/2013) [-]
There is killing soldiers and then there is civilian slaughter.
User avatar #68 to #31 - heartlessrobot (10/16/2013) [-]
The rape of Nanking.
#32 to #31 - anonymous (10/15/2013) [-]
You want your civilians to stay alive? Don't ******* attack us. Simple as that. They started this fight.
User avatar #34 to #32 - caseris (10/15/2013) [-]
The Japanese attacked a military base, no civilians. killing civilians in return is genocide and wrong.

America had all the right to fight the military of Japan in anyway, but causing major civilian casualities is just wrong, no matter which way your turn it. Mainly because they did not decide anything about the war.
User avatar #59 to #34 - alltimetens (10/16/2013) [-]
Nanking Massacre.... Look it up.
User avatar #69 to #59 - heartlessrobot (10/16/2013) [-]
Way worse than anything America's done. None were spared, not even the children. Especially the children.
#78 to #69 - sytheris (10/16/2013) [-]
Not only that, they were tortured. Burtally. Used as playthings for Japanese soldiers, essentially.
User avatar #80 to #78 - heartlessrobot (10/16/2013) [-]
Raped and thrown into a pile. Including infants.
#39 to #34 - anonymous (10/15/2013) [-]
Again, don't ******* attack us and we wont ******* attack you. They deserved what they got and I do not feel any sympathy for them. Japan needed to be punished for what they did. The government knew what they were getting in Not our fault they were ******* idiots.
#43 to #39 - caseris (10/15/2013) [-]
Are you even listening, we're talking about killing innocent civilians. People that did not decide to attack America. Imagine attacking LA with nukes to force a country to surrender, that would be wrong.

Really, the nuking of those places was questionable if not wrong.
User avatar #85 to #43 - meganinja (10/16/2013) [-]
Then that would be America's fault an American city got bombed.
#47 to #43 - anonymous (10/15/2013) [-]
Those civilians would have never died if Japan hadn't attacked us. The Japanese government piratically killed their own people by starting this fight. We had to punish Japan and how do we do that? By killing their people. They knew what they were getting in
#57 to #47 - slugnugget (10/16/2013) [-]
You're are obviously retarded or a troll.

Pick one and leave.
#61 to #57 - anonymous (10/16/2013) [-]
I'm neither. I'm being completely serious. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't make them a troll.
User avatar #127 to #61 - fgtometer (10/16/2013) [-]
Retarded it is, then!
#173 to #127 - anonymous (10/16/2013) [-]
I'm not calling you retarded because you disagree with me. That's really stupid.
User avatar #176 to #173 - fgtometer (10/17/2013) [-]
Okay, let me put your own point back at you.

9/11 was totally justified because of US aggression in the middle east. Those who died deserved what they got and I feel no sympathy for what they did. The US government practically killed their own people.

But make it 100,000+ people instead of 3,000.
#28 to #26 - scruffyguy (10/15/2013) [-]
even more innocent people died for no reason because of the nuclear bombings. in fighting the animal, we became the animal.
User avatar #42 to #28 - TCRCPRODUCTIONS (10/15/2013) [-]
That can be argued against, granted many innocent civilians died which is horrible, it probably saved millions of lives in the end. Here is why,

*Japan is a very mountainous country this gives them a strong upper-hand in battle.

*Japan is full of crazy ************* that would kill themselves just to take out a few soldiers e.g. kamikaze

*Japanese soldiers had little fear back then and there were strict punishments for being a coward, even self inflicted punishments e.g. seppuku

This would make the Japanese very hard to fight and many lives would be lost on both sides, probably millions more than the bombings.
#29 to #28 - anonymous (10/15/2013) [-]
It was still worth it. Do NOT start a ******* fight you can not finish. They deserved everything that happened to them.
#35 to #29 - jaguarjam (10/15/2013) [-]
Wtf dude...seriously, sheesh. What are you talking here about is 80,000 people dying in a flash - imagine it, entire existences destroyed in a matter of miliseconds. Then you get people who die of radiation poisoning and injury. ******* imagine that happening to you, or losing your relatives to such a thing. Are you seriously able to say in clear conscience those people deserved it?
#66 to #35 - anonymous (10/16/2013) [-]
Don't ******* start a war if you can't handle the consequences. Their own god damn government is to blame for all of those people. They attacked us and we retaliated. Don't **** with us and we wont **** with you. Here's the thing too. They AREN'T my ancestors. "YEAH BUT WHAT IFFFFF" They aren't. They get no sympathy or empathy from me. **** them. War is hell.
User avatar #128 to #66 - fgtometer (10/16/2013) [-]
The state that Japan was in, with its supply lines cut out, their military infrastructure could have been absolutely annihilated. If you can have bombers anywhere on the island without fear of getting bombed, they have no chance of effective resistance. They were on the verge of surrendering anyway, with Russia on the cusp of declaring war. The secrecy of the US, and the power play of dropping the nuke so near to Russia also stoked a fire, and in the end caused the Korean War.

And thus, Admin was born
#30 to #29 - scruffyguy (10/15/2013) [-]
I don't think the people who died from the bombs or got poisoned by the radiation started any fight.
#33 to #30 - anonymous (10/15/2013) [-]
If the Japanese government wanted their civilians to stay safe then don't attack us. They are to blame for every single one of those casualties. Don't attack us and we wont attack you. The entire blame is on them 100%. That bomb would have never been dropped on them if they hadn't attacked us.
User avatar #54 to #33 - tehfalconguy ONLINE (10/15/2013) [-]
Okay, how about this. You're living in Europe, and your entire family and loved ones live in the US. Japan gets in a war with the US over something, and both side's causes are justified. Now, Japan drops a nuke on the US and all those people you love die, and the few that survive are killed by the radiation. Do you blame the US government for being in the war or would you blame the people who made the decision to instantly destroy tens of thousands of mostly innocent people, and completely obliterate any potential they could have had. One of those people could have been the man to find the cure to cancer.
Think about it.
#71 to #54 - anonymous (10/16/2013) [-]
Japan had absolutely no business or justification for attacking us. Fight China, I don't give a **** . Get involved in Europe, I couldn't care less. But do not attack the USA.
User avatar #83 to #71 - tehfalconguy ONLINE (10/16/2013) [-]
So that just makes it fine to kill a ******** of innocent bystanders who didn't do anything wrong?
#84 to #83 - anonymous (10/16/2013) [-]
Japan should not have attacked us. They had to deal with the repercussions.
User avatar #86 to #84 - tehfalconguy ONLINE (10/16/2013) [-]
There are better ways of administering "repercussions" than bombing cities full of people that had no role in what you're getting revenge for.
#89 to #86 - anonymous (10/16/2013) [-]
We had to send them a message. They learned their ******* lesson.

Also it gave us a perfect chance to test our nice new bomb.
#90 to #89 - tehfalconguy ONLINE (10/16/2013) [-]
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#101 to #90 - anonymous (10/16/2013) [-]
They got themselves into this mess. I promise you they regretted it after those bombs were dropped.
User avatar #102 to #101 - tehfalconguy ONLINE (10/16/2013) [-]
No **** . The point I'm trying to make is how ethical is it to kill so many innocents to send a message?
#115 to #102 - anonymous (10/16/2013) [-]
We wouldn't have killed all of those innocents if Japan hadn't attacked us in the first place. I have no sympathy for someone who starts a fight and then gets the **** kicked out of them. You don't push the biggest kid on the playground, that's just stupid.
User avatar #38 to #33 - fanciful (10/15/2013) [-]
When I read this, I imagine that anon is talking to the ghost of a japanese girl, around five or six years old, trying to explain why it is her own fault that she didn't wake up on August the 6th, 68 years ago.
User avatar #45 to #38 - averagemcgee (10/15/2013) [-]
I'd like for you to try to explain to the thousands of young men who were forced to take up arms to protect their family by an invading force, to stop them from getting raped, murdered, tortured, as no doubt would happen if Americans every came under occupation by the japs back then, how ending the war with the death of a few hundred thousand Japanese (more died in conventional bombing then nuclear, but you don't seem to care, because nukes are scary) and save the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans, millions of Japanese, and probably some Russians too. You tell that to the poor boys who were sent over seas to fight a enemy they never wanted too, to die on some God forsaken island, never to live, have children, have a life, love. All cut short, thanks to the Japanese, you tell that too those "Ghosts".
#136 to #45 - fanciful (10/16/2013) [-]
I think the soldiers already understand, because, well, they must: they became soldiers. There's even an explanation in your comment. Besides, all I'm saying is that just because there was justification for what the US did does not make it "fair" or "deserved" for a majority of those vaporized. Anon #40 is the voice of wisdom here. It's the people he's talking about who should have been vaporized.
User avatar #160 to #136 - averagemcgee (10/16/2013) [-]
i find it funny how everyone woes and cries about those Japanese dying, and try to take the higher road. When they leave out the Japanese slaughtering millions of Innocent civilians in far more brutal ways. They treated humans as animals, and treated them as such, the US never did anything as horrible as them. A flash, a quick vaporizing, and some had to go through radiation poisoning, but not all. Compared to the millions who were raped, murdered, tortured, humiliated, etc. by the Japanese. And while there were civilians, these were cities supplying and manufacturing goods for the war effort, a tactical strike. No one cares about the fire bombings of tokyo, the mass air raids of Berlin, but because nukes were used, somehow it's worse. Those "innocent" civilians would brutally murder any American if they saw them, for their "god" the emperor, they were just as dangerous as any enemy combatant.

I'd rather they suffer for the war they started and supported, than young American men sent off to fight a war they didn't ask for.


P.S. - these soldiers were also humans, you act as if the civilians were the only ones to love, laugh, live, have familys, dreams, hopes, etc.


User avatar #167 to #160 - fanciful (10/16/2013) [-]
Also, it would be hilarious if "fanciful" had a debate with "average". Just saying.
User avatar #166 to #160 - fanciful (10/16/2013) [-]
You make a lot of valid points. It's just that, with nukes, nobody can pretend like it was only monstrous people who died. Some kids had to have died. Kids who weren't monsters yet. That's why you get such an imbalanced reaction.... I think.

I'm just pointing out the stupidly obvious: it was wrong to kill those kids. Maybe it was also the best course of action, I still don't know, but that part of it was not good.

You want to see me as sympathizing with all of the japanese, but I'm not. In fact, I'm hardly saying anything about that at all. It's only, people want to see things black and white, and I feel compelled to try and stop them.

#40 to #38 - anonymous (10/15/2013) [-]
Blame whoever decided to attack Pearl Harbor. They are the people who are to blame, not us. They shouldn't have attacked us.
#37 to #33 - jaguarjam (10/15/2013) [-]
As if US didn't ever wage wars all-around to globe. By the same logic, do you think YOU are responsible for 9/11?
#41 to #37 - anonymous (10/15/2013) [-]
But the thing is we can FINISH it, not just start it. Don't start a fight you can't finish.

They attacked our towers, we go **** them up. That's what 9/11 was about. It's their fault.
#151 to #41 - biermagnet (10/16/2013) [-]
That makes literally no sense.

Its the other way around. "You" started it and they finished it(with 9/11) and "won" ( seeing the US 10 years later and its paranoia it was huge win.)

So basically they were right to do so cause you guys weren't prepared to finish what you started?
Well then...whatever works for you best.
User avatar #184 to #151 - fgtometer (10/18/2013) [-]
I like how the popular American view of 11/9 ( **** those backwards dates) is that some assholes, living in a cave on the other side of the planet, thought, "I really hate how Americans get to vote, and how women there don't have to wear a niqab", and then began an elaborate scheme to get revenge on the freedoms.

Because the US has never done anything to warrant being attacked, of course.
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