Good guy (yet ignored) Leo!. . WT!’ fun that #4425 Lee sailed. physicist directly responsible tor the creation of the Manhattan Project wanted lo have a test ex
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Good guy (yet ignored) Leo!

WT!’ fun that #4425
Lee sailed. physicist directly responsible tor the creation
of the Manhattan Project wanted lo have a test explosion
that could he witnessed by Japanese observers for them
surrender while sparing lives
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Submitted: 10/15/2013
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User avatar #1 - demigodofmadness (10/15/2013) [+] (68 replies)
To be fair, it wouldn't have mattered. We bombed Hiroshima and they still didn't give up. A test explosion wouldn't have scared them, it would've just cost us an extra atom bomb.
User avatar #3 to #2 - demigodofmadness (10/15/2013) [-]
It appears you're right, exclusively from information on wikipedia, I was taught in history classes, however, that this happened.

America: You should surrender
Japan: No
Ka-Boom
America: Seriously, surrender
Japan: No
Ka-Boom
America: Next is Tokyo
Japan: Lol I'm ******* out
User avatar #52 - superpats (10/15/2013) [-]
oh, they observed it alright
#18 - captainganto (10/15/2013) [-]
I'd comment utilising my history degree, but i remembered I'm on funny junk
#26 - anon (10/15/2013) [+] (46 replies)
No I like what we actually did. **** Japan. They started this **** and we finished it. They deserved it. Don't mess with the bull or else you'll get the horns.
User avatar #68 to #31 - heartlessrobot (10/16/2013) [-]
The rape of Nanking.
User avatar #106 - missrainbowdash (10/16/2013) [+] (17 replies)
they deserved what they got honestly, tokyo should have been first.
#114 to #106 - darthblam (10/16/2013) [-]
While it ended the war ultimately in both sides' favors.. I can't agree that they "deserved" a couple nukes..   
No nation, no matter their policies or any other 						********					 deserves a nuke in an inhabited town full of civilians.   
Sure they 						******					 up China.. sure they did bad things, but bad things happen in war.. either way.. no nation DESERVES such destruction.   
   
Now.. perhaps PEOPLE deserve judgement and suffering, like Hitler, Stalin, or Tojo. But the civilians of the nation, people who might not even agree with the government, do not deserve such things.
While it ended the war ultimately in both sides' favors.. I can't agree that they "deserved" a couple nukes..
No nation, no matter their policies or any other ******** deserves a nuke in an inhabited town full of civilians.
Sure they ****** up China.. sure they did bad things, but bad things happen in war.. either way.. no nation DESERVES such destruction.

Now.. perhaps PEOPLE deserve judgement and suffering, like Hitler, Stalin, or Tojo. But the civilians of the nation, people who might not even agree with the government, do not deserve such things.
User avatar #99 - infinitereaper (10/16/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Let's just hope Japan doesn't hold a grudge because if they ever build gundams we're all ****** .
User avatar #44 - princessren (10/15/2013) [+] (17 replies)
well...I mean....to be fair
we said, "hey we got this huge terrible bomb, surrender", and they were like "no"
and we were like "ok" and dropped it and they were still like "no"
not to mention all that like...cold war stuff....and scaring the Russians
I mean it was terrible....but if I could go back in time and stop it I wouldn't
#19 - anon (10/15/2013) [-]
The problem is they probably wouldn't have surrendered. The Japanese (during the War anyway) saw those who surrendered as not human--more like insects. Surrendering was the greatest dishonor a soldier could ever do, suicide was considered a better option.
User avatar #116 - thelastprothean (10/16/2013) [+] (2 replies)
It wouldn't have worked. The didn't surrender after the first hit. It took two bombs for them to surrender, and those two actually hit targets and killed thousands of people
User avatar #117 to #116 - darthblam (10/16/2013) [-]
And that was even after weeks of firebombing cities all the way to friggin' Tokyo.
User avatar #92 - chism (10/16/2013) [+] (4 replies)
seriously? like that would've done anything. we dropped 2. and the 2nd wasn't just a hey **** you. we dropped the 2nd because they saw the damage of the first one and still didnt surrender, so u think just seeing the fire ball would've done anything?
User avatar #134 - reican (10/16/2013) [-]
Well **** him, that'd ruin US' KDR Right?
User avatar #88 - mitchr (10/16/2013) [-]
That would've been nice, but might not have worked.


Also, another good guy was the Secretary of War, who kept Kyoto off of the bombing lists so that Japan's culture would be kept safe. Had they dropped the nuke on Kyoto, Japan's historical and cultural center would have been destroyed.
That guy is a good damn guy; he cared about not only his own people's children and future but the future and children of his enemy's. He had it taken off the list because he knew this.

Instead, they put Nagasaki on the list.
#175 - Demontank (10/16/2013) [-]
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't of worked. If anything they would of fought harder at the threat.
User avatar #143 - BoxSocial (10/16/2013) [-]
So, I'm noticing that a common argument against the use of Fat man and Little boy is that those who died were innocent civilians. But is it not true that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both major industrial and military cities? I picked that up from school, and of course Wikipedia since it's so readily available. If that is true, then would not killing those who directly aid the military by supplying them with machines, vehicles, and weaponry be near or equally justified as killing those who used those machines to carry out the slaughter of other nation's civilians?
#139 - anon (10/16/2013) [-]
What a great idea, I'm sure Emperor Hirohito would've loved to come hang out with FDR while they showed him a nuke. In fact, why not call the whole gang, Churchhill, Stalin, even Hitler, I'm sure they could set aside the fact they were AT WAR and just watch an explosion together.
User avatar #129 - whitie (10/16/2013) [-]
ultimately a countries job is to worry about itself and its people, after all a country is just a conglomerate of people that works in the groups best interest. Simply put it'd be flat out stupid to opt for invasion over dropping the bombs, that's like if you're in a fight and you slice off your finger in order to spare your opponents arm. in a humanitarian sense it was terrible, but as a nation goes there is no question it was the superior choice
User avatar #124 - gtobirilsrelbxw **User deleted account** (10/16/2013) [-]
I feel like there is some Mortal Kombat battle going on in the comments section between everyone's differences of opinion on right and wrong.

Very intriguing.
User avatar #91 - legendshalo (10/16/2013) [+] (1 reply)
That's a good idea! Save for the fact that they blew the bomb up IN JAPAN and the Japanese still didn't surrender.
User avatar #87 - bakinboy (10/16/2013) [+] (1 reply)
what? robert oppenheimer was the lead scientist
#53 - TRINDADE (10/15/2013) [+] (3 replies)
The way he wanted 'murrica would have looked much more badass.
But they wanted to test the bomb in a actual city, thus Hiroshima, and in a city on the hills to see if the terrain would interfere
#100 to #53 - lonelybaloney (10/16/2013) [-]
"the inevitable and complete destruction of the Japanese armed forces and just as inevitably the utter devastation of the Japanese homeland"
2 days later, Japanese Prime Minster confirms to reject the ultimatum of surrendering.

We were just testing, gosh.
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