Good Guy Sauron
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fadetometallica (07/11/2015) [-] Yeah we can just send him to Russia and he'll obliterate the whole country without breaking a sweat.
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baronvonhuckle (07/11/2015) [-] Better than Jeb.
**** , an ancient, malevolent being of near god-like power with the will to dominate all life would be better than jeb.
Oh wait.
**** , an ancient, malevolent being of near god-like power with the will to dominate all life would be better than jeb.
Oh wait.
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corsairjoshua (07/11/2015) [-] www.imdb.com/title/tt0079802/?ref_=tt_rec_tt
It's from the series of cartoon movies about The Lord of the Rings. There's also one for the hobbit. I adore them and the music.
It's from the series of cartoon movies about The Lord of the Rings. There's also one for the hobbit. I adore them and the music.
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corsairjoshua (07/11/2015) [-] They don't get talked about very much! They're rather enjoyable! The Hobbit especially so.
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luftvaffel (07/11/2015) [-] I've enjoyed 10 minutes and 47 seconds of it so far, and I damn well intend to enjoy the rest of it before too long. Thanks for enlightening me!
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eiaisqzbsesb (07/11/2015) [-] Just gotta say, the 1977 smaug is more intimidating if you ask me. He knows he is the dominant one during the entire conversation. He doesn't need to move around and stalk for Bilbo. He is in charge, he has the lead.
Peter Jackson's smaug is intimidating, sure, but he moves around too much, and seems far too unsure of himself.
Peter Jackson's smaug is intimidating, sure, but he moves around too much, and seems far too unsure of himself.
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jubajubejiblets ONLINE (07/11/2015) [-] For that matter, the Goblin King was was way more threatening too. I'll take the one that was about the bite Thorin's head off over the jolly ol' ****** that was in Jackson's movies any day.
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luftvaffel (07/11/2015) [-] Part of the moving around bit was probably them showing off how cool their special effects were.
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eiaisqzbsesb (07/11/2015) [-] Sure, but that results in Jackson's smaug just feeling insecure and almost a bit whiny. He is too animated, and when waking up, he is instantly on his guard. He stalks around and tries to look menacing, almost as though he is, to an extent, afraid of Bilbo.
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luftvaffel (07/11/2015) [-] Yeah. Whenever the effects are more important than the scene, it's never as good as it could have been.
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eiaisqzbsesb (07/11/2015) [-] Overall, I like the 1977 movie a lot better than Jackson's trilogies, since Jackson had the gall to challenge Tolkien. Jackson changed the whole feel and pacing of the story. He brought in his own fan-characters because "We need badass grills, mmmkay?"
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feelythefeel (07/11/2015) [-] Aren't the Goblins loyal to the Great Goblin as opposed to Sauron?
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hillbillypowpow (07/11/2015) [-]
I've read It might have been in a lotr fact comp on here that goblins are a type of orc, so maybe the great goblin is loyal to Sauron. Or he might have just forced them to fight.
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killerjhtwo (07/10/2015) [-] Sauron didn't create the Palantiri.
Elves did. Then they gave them to the men which they used to communicate between their kingdoms and keep the widespread empire of men in order. When the kingdoms fell and they got scattered/looted Sauron came across some and thought "Hey, I can use this"
It's also what drove Denethor a bit mad. He had one adn would spend hours staring into it and being manipulated.
Elves did. Then they gave them to the men which they used to communicate between their kingdoms and keep the widespread empire of men in order. When the kingdoms fell and they got scattered/looted Sauron came across some and thought "Hey, I can use this"
It's also what drove Denethor a bit mad. He had one adn would spend hours staring into it and being manipulated.
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Dakafal (07/11/2015) [-] It's not that he wasn't allowed to make them. If Sauron just showed up and was like sup guys, have these rings, they wouldn't trust it. So he convinced them to make them themselves. Then he secretly built his One ring to magnify his own power by feeding off of that of the others and controlling them.
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paddypancake (07/11/2015) [-] Good post but i think a few facts here are wrong. I'm not an expert on the topic so feel free to correct me.
I think the "9 random dudes" were great human kings who probably knew each other before they turned into wraiths after sauron forged the ring. Not sure how that exactly happened but since they lived at the same time i think they knew each other.
The PalantÃri were created before the sauron i think.
And all rings expect for the one were forged by the elves.
I think the "9 random dudes" were great human kings who probably knew each other before they turned into wraiths after sauron forged the ring. Not sure how that exactly happened but since they lived at the same time i think they knew each other.
The PalantÃri were created before the sauron i think.
And all rings expect for the one were forged by the elves.
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majordeadpool (07/11/2015) [-] The rings were still by his design and it was he who helped make them, wasnt he? He helped with the 9 for the humans, the 7 for the dwarves, but Celebrimbor figured him out and hid the 3 elven rings, wasnt it so?
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skebaba (07/11/2015) [-]
He was there influencing over the lesser rings, but the 3 elven rings were made by Celebrimbor when Sauron wasn't there, so they weren't under his ring's influence unlike the others he oversaw the elves doing. The lesser rings were only apprentice works to show that they have graduated by making them. The greater rings were a lot more powerful, because they were made by the greatest Elven smith of the Second Age, Celebrimbor.
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anon (07/10/2015) [-]
I think one of the points of Lord of the Rings was the dangers of industry, since Tolkien literally lived through the industrial revolution, and watched the city grow, as it consumed his small town. From interviews with both him and his children, he seemed to have great disdain for industry. So in Tolkien's eyes, Sauron creating industry was not a good thing.
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anon (07/11/2015) [-]
It's about death, not anti-industry. Also, never say that LotR is about opposing war , it's about death - in Tolkien's own words: "I might say that if the tale is 'about' anything, it is not, as seems widely supposed, about 'power.' ... It is mainly concerned with Death and Immortality."
www.cracked.com/article_22688_7-pop-culture-classics-that-dont-mean-what-you-think.html - see entry 6
www.cracked.com/article_22688_7-pop-culture-classics-that-dont-mean-what-you-think.html - see entry 6
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mysisterismywaifu (07/11/2015) [-] **mysisterismywaifu used "*roll picture*"**
**mysisterismywaifu rolled image** What Sauron did for me ....
**mysisterismywaifu rolled image** What Sauron did for me ....
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anon (07/11/2015) [-]
There's a fan-written LotR book by some russian author called "The Last Ringbearer" that is based on a "what if Sauron was a good guy?"-perspective.
It's okay, it's not the most well-written stuff, but it's decent enough and sheds a new and quite interesting light upon Sauron, Mordor, the orcs, the ringwraiths as well as the elves, the dunedain etc. Might be the translators ****** it up when they translated it to english, but I dunno.
It's okay, it's not the most well-written stuff, but it's decent enough and sheds a new and quite interesting light upon Sauron, Mordor, the orcs, the ringwraiths as well as the elves, the dunedain etc. Might be the translators ****** it up when they translated it to english, but I dunno.
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mrwalkerfour (07/10/2015) [-] imagine the nazgul talk though
sauron- "hm, the horses sucked, here, take these giant evil winged beasts"
wring wraiths "dude, why did you not give us these first? do you realise how ******* easy it would have been to get your ring with these? we coulda just flown over that ******* river, we coulda just eaten them on weathertop. you had these ******* things in your wardrobe but you said 'nah **** it have some damn horses"
sauron:" because that would spoil the story"
sauron- "hm, the horses sucked, here, take these giant evil winged beasts"
wring wraiths "dude, why did you not give us these first? do you realise how ******* easy it would have been to get your ring with these? we coulda just flown over that ******* river, we coulda just eaten them on weathertop. you had these ******* things in your wardrobe but you said 'nah **** it have some damn horses"
sauron:" because that would spoil the story"
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mrwalkerfour (07/11/2015) [-] why undercover? by the time word reaches anybody of power that they have the rng, theyd be in mordor
and even if they got pursued afterwards...who's gonna pursue them? nobody can fly, gandalf maybe could fight them, but they can just fly away faster than he can ride after them, they can cross the continent in a couple weeks at most. only the eagles would be a risk, but word would have to reach them, time enough for the nazgul to be close to mordor, they could meet up with a bunch of orcs and kill the eagles if needs be
and even if they got pursued afterwards...who's gonna pursue them? nobody can fly, gandalf maybe could fight them, but they can just fly away faster than he can ride after them, they can cross the continent in a couple weeks at most. only the eagles would be a risk, but word would have to reach them, time enough for the nazgul to be close to mordor, they could meet up with a bunch of orcs and kill the eagles if needs be
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plutosmarket (07/11/2015) [-]
Actually, Sauron didn't make the palantirs himself, but rather he obtained them. They were given to men at the end of their golden age by the elves, as a sign of friendship. There were a few of them, but all of them were either lost or destroyed, except for Saurons and I think two others~
But yeah he's totally awesome!
But yeah he's totally awesome!
