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smartasshobo (08/30/2015) [-] 
Thing is, all of them are white, while Trump is not. ****** is orange, so by SJW standards he can't be racist
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blandbland (08/30/2015) [-] Didn't the first couple of people say something racist about a black person and trunk only said something racist about a Mexican
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calawesome ONLINE (08/30/2015) [-] Am I going to hell for sort of wanting to bang a racist loon?
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DeathclawRulez (08/30/2015) [-] Hot dogs can't be racist so Hulk Hogan should be in the clear.
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iqequalzero (08/30/2015) [-] Hotdog
Wrestling
Goddamit not im thinking about the Macho Man talk, with the whole "Grandstanding and hotdogging" bit.
Wrestling
Goddamit not im thinking about the Macho Man talk, with the whole "Grandstanding and hotdogging" bit.
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komandantmirkoo (08/30/2015) [-] oompa loompa dabble dee doo. i've got another puzzle for you
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thebluedream ONLINE (08/30/2015) [-] What all of those others did was try and apologize for it, and for some reason that kind of **** makes it worse. Trump on the other hand stood by his comments and people dig that
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morebuckets (08/30/2015) [-]
Plus people who understand what he said don't think it's that racist.
Aside from him generalizing all hispanic immigrants as mexicans (which is what sank him) all he said was that illegal immigrants are criminals
Aside from him generalizing all hispanic immigrants as mexicans (which is what sank him) all he said was that illegal immigrants are criminals
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morebuckets (08/30/2015) [-]
There's two parts to it.
The people who live here illegally, which isn't so bad. We just miss out on taxes
And then there are the people bringing drugs and just general illegal goods across the borders. Those are the real problems
The people who live here illegally, which isn't so bad. We just miss out on taxes
And then there are the people bringing drugs and just general illegal goods across the borders. Those are the real problems
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containlettersonly (08/30/2015) [-] Well that and since they don't pay taxes then send their kids to our schools (on everyone elses dime) then they don't learn english so the schools have to print everything in english and spanish (which costs more) they use our roads (taxes) and other public services they represent a net loss. Nothing to do with race, if canadians were flocking across our border in droves we would be doing something about that too.
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bakagaijin (08/30/2015) [-]
What I have a problem with is not that he's gonna be cracking down on illegal immigration and looking for those that enter illegally, but he also wants to send the children (who are american citizen and will begin paying taxes) back to their respective countries as well... and if you only have a problem with illegal imigrants not paying their fair share and not with Hispanics in general, how would you feel about building a wall, tripling border patrol and giving anyone who is still here citizenship so that way the government, the taxpayers and the aliens win?
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morebuckets (08/30/2015) [-]
But that's the thing, they're not really american citizens who pay taxes
they usually don't have ssn or anything, and they still live illegally...even though, technically, they are legal
they usually don't have ssn or anything, and they still live illegally...even though, technically, they are legal
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bakagaijin (08/30/2015) [-]
You get rid of 11 million people, you get rid of 11 million consumers... an illigal immigrant still pays taxes on a loaf of bread, they still pay taxes when they go to a restaurant and eat, they still pay taxes when going to the movies and when they buy a bottle of water. .. throughout the year consumer taxes make more money than income taxes and if you lose that resource, not only will the government suffer, but more jobs will be lost because small business owners can't afford to pay employees in heavy immigrant comunities the only people that will benifit would be export
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morebuckets (08/30/2015) [-]
11 million people is a drop in the bucket, really
4 million people are born every year in the USA, adding to a population of 320 million
Besides, most states don't tax food (which would be most of what a poor immigrant family purchases)
4 million people are born every year in the USA, adding to a population of 320 million
Besides, most states don't tax food (which would be most of what a poor immigrant family purchases)
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bakagaijin (08/30/2015) [-]
11 million is the estimate for Hispanic immigrants... (who are not even the majority) you forgot to take into consideration the europeans, the Asian, the Africans and all their children... it would make sense to enforce immigration laws and do it over time... doing it all at once is just begging for a massive riot
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bakagaijin (08/30/2015) [-]
That would make sense if you think of it spread out but that's not the case... illegal immigrants are usually in cities, not in spread open areas... its all a chain reaction... comunities collapse, then the city and then the state suffers... btw, where do you live? You seem to think that illegal imigrants are all mexicans living on top of each other in 1 bedroom apartments... that's usually not the case
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containlettersonly (08/30/2015) [-] "Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."
Jacob Howard, the man responsible for the line "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" in the 14th amendment
I'm not at all concerned with the government or illegals winning. If the families are not assimilated they need to go, those kids can come back if there is extended assimilated family already in the country. The real damage is when these foreigners are thrown into a city to change the political landscape because they are having their votes bought by the democrat party, that is why you see the "Murrieta style" protests across the country. I'm not apathetic to the people who want to come here for a better life, but we are already the most generous nation in the world when it comes to legal immigration and we cannot sustain ourselves like this. No one is saying don't go for the criminals first but most Americans do stand with Trumps position and because of that we will see some sort of compromise, he has stated as much himself "we will work with them".
Jacob Howard, the man responsible for the line "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" in the 14th amendment
I'm not at all concerned with the government or illegals winning. If the families are not assimilated they need to go, those kids can come back if there is extended assimilated family already in the country. The real damage is when these foreigners are thrown into a city to change the political landscape because they are having their votes bought by the democrat party, that is why you see the "Murrieta style" protests across the country. I'm not apathetic to the people who want to come here for a better life, but we are already the most generous nation in the world when it comes to legal immigration and we cannot sustain ourselves like this. No one is saying don't go for the criminals first but most Americans do stand with Trumps position and because of that we will see some sort of compromise, he has stated as much himself "we will work with them".
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bakagaijin (08/30/2015) [-]
Umm... he's trying to get rid of the 14th amendment... he's trying to get rid of anchor babies (such an ugly word) and turning the country from jus soli to jus sanguine... meaning that if you are born here, then you don't get citizenship unless at least one of your parents are american.... not only that, but you mentioned that they have to spend money on making the labels in spanish as well.. you sound like you're implying english is the national language of th united states..
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containlettersonly (08/30/2015) [-] No, he's trying to properly apply the 14th amendment. Are illegal immigrants freed slaves?
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bakagaijin (08/30/2015) [-]
This is why you can't run a country like a business... to be a politician you have to be a diplomat as well... its not diplomatic to insult your neighbor and your biggest threat during your speech to run for office
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xxsikoticxx (08/30/2015) [-]
the problem with the first part is that there are millions missing out on taxes
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robotvoice (08/30/2015) [-] people who act offended by these things arent actually offended.
they act offended because they gain power from it
we're turning into a society of victims
being unapologetic is the best possible choice.
they act offended because they gain power from it
we're turning into a society of victims
being unapologetic is the best possible choice.
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atheisttsiehta (08/30/2015) [-] I don't think Hulk Hogan actually said anything racist though. That came from a "leaked transcript" of his sex tape which I refuse to watch out of respect.
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ohemgeezus (08/30/2015) [-] >I don't think Hulk Hogan actually said anything racist
> I refuse to watch out of respect
what
> I refuse to watch out of respect
what
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ohemgeezus (08/30/2015) [-] And? They leaked it, that's all they did, doesn't mean it's fake. Hulk also apologized for it. Why apologize if it didn't happen?
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atheisttsiehta (08/30/2015) [-] Have you ever been accused of something you didn't do, but you still apologized?
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ohemgeezus (08/30/2015) [-] No because I'm not retarded. Why apologize for something you didn't do.
"Eight years ago I used offensive language during a conversation," Hogan says in a statement. "It was unacceptable for me to have used that offensive language; there is no excuse for it; and I apologize for having done it."
-hulk hogan
"Eight years ago I used offensive language during a conversation," Hogan says in a statement. "It was unacceptable for me to have used that offensive language; there is no excuse for it; and I apologize for having done it."
-hulk hogan
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cryingchicken (08/30/2015) [-] if you haven't apologized for something you've never done that that's great for you but it's still a very natural and understandable response, especially when under the scrutiny of the whole media attempting to defame you.
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ohemgeezus (08/30/2015) [-] CNN. Could also find it anywhere else by googling hulk hogan apologizes
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ohemgeezus (08/30/2015) [-] I liked him, too. It sucks a dude that stands for the American Dream is a racist
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atheisttsiehta (08/30/2015) [-] I doubt that he's still a racist, a lot can change in 8 years.
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wrestlingcomments ONLINE (08/30/2015) [-]
Thumbed you back up to neutral.
I don't think he was a racist then or now.
I don't think he was a racist then or now.
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wrestlingcomments ONLINE (08/30/2015) [-]
I'm sure fighting this point on the internet really going to be the best thing I've ever done in my life, but here I go again on my own.
You probably say racist **** all the time. Most people do and don't mean it. Sometimes you make it a joke. Other times you might get really really angry because your entire family watched you spend millions trying to make you all be closer together and now they all **** on you. That's what happened to Hogan. And on a bad day, maybe you'll say those racist things you usually say as a joke, but say something with a little more sting.
I don't think Hogan is racist. His family make him miserable by being non-negotiable assholes. I also think he can be a non-negotiable asshole with his family. It's a thing that happens. If you're talking with people in private you say different **** than when you're recorded. It's a thing we do as trusting human beings. He might admit we're all a little racist, but that doesn't mean he's a racist. I'm a little moronic but it doesn't mean I'm a full-fledged moron. You might be a little hispanic from your grandmother's side but it doesn't necessarily mean you're wholly a hispanic. People say bad things when they trust people and when they're angry. You have. I have. Nobody is without weakness. That's not racism.
You probably say racist **** all the time. Most people do and don't mean it. Sometimes you make it a joke. Other times you might get really really angry because your entire family watched you spend millions trying to make you all be closer together and now they all **** on you. That's what happened to Hogan. And on a bad day, maybe you'll say those racist things you usually say as a joke, but say something with a little more sting.
I don't think Hogan is racist. His family make him miserable by being non-negotiable assholes. I also think he can be a non-negotiable asshole with his family. It's a thing that happens. If you're talking with people in private you say different **** than when you're recorded. It's a thing we do as trusting human beings. He might admit we're all a little racist, but that doesn't mean he's a racist. I'm a little moronic but it doesn't mean I'm a full-fledged moron. You might be a little hispanic from your grandmother's side but it doesn't necessarily mean you're wholly a hispanic. People say bad things when they trust people and when they're angry. You have. I have. Nobody is without weakness. That's not racism.
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acdjackbauer (08/30/2015) [-] Stop apologizing for everything and people lose power.
Trump makes no apologies. What are you gonna do about it? Call him a racist more?
Trump makes no apologies. What are you gonna do about it? Call him a racist more?
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kaboomz (08/30/2015) [-] bacause people are tired of this pro-black faggotry
they want a change
they want a change
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pointblankhits (08/30/2015) [-] I think things are starting to change, White people are finally getting our ******* spine back
We are the only race that can be insulted and are not aloud to call it racist
We are the only race that can be insulted and are not aloud to call it racist
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ghostblaze (08/30/2015) [-] Thats just normal consequence, because people are tired of that political correctness fascism
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stonetomcat (08/30/2015) [-] It's all ******** . Hogan and Sterling were recorded in the privacy of their own homes, and Paula said it back when it was considered "ok". After being robbed. 50 years ago.
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upyoursnumbnuts ONLINE (08/30/2015) [-]
I don't see Trump as a choice but more a lack of options. I for one am sick of life long politicians thinking it's their turn to be president.
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CyborgNinja (08/31/2015) [-] What irks me is that he rails on Mexicans for being illegal immigrants, and wants Mexico to pay for a U.S. owned border wall, when in reality:
- A majority of illegal immigration is done by non-Mexicans
- It should be OUR responsibility to protect OUR borders.
- I don't see him bitching about all the other immigrants who leech off the social welfare system, and/or constantly trick the system into getting more money that they'll never pay back in taxes.
- A majority of illegal immigration is done by non-Mexicans
- It should be OUR responsibility to protect OUR borders.
- I don't see him bitching about all the other immigrants who leech off the social welfare system, and/or constantly trick the system into getting more money that they'll never pay back in taxes.
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severepwner (08/31/2015) [-] I don't understand why you're being thumbed down.
All Mexicans should hate illegal immigrants, they dirty your name and increase stereotypes.
All Mexicans should hate illegal immigrants, they dirty your name and increase stereotypes.
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donatelo (08/30/2015) [-] because he is blatantly stereotypical. he is ignoring not only the 45% who come from overseas and overstay their visas, but the fact that immigrants from other spanish speaking countries/central american countries are immigrating at an increasing rate than mexican immigrants (which has slowed down).
The fact that he is trying to scapegoat mexicans alone is blatant ignorance. Oh, and also implying he meant the majority of mexican immigrants are gangsters and rapists...these are not facts.
The fact that he is trying to scapegoat mexicans alone is blatant ignorance. Oh, and also implying he meant the majority of mexican immigrants are gangsters and rapists...these are not facts.
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priestoftheoldones (08/30/2015) [-] He said locking down the border would lower crime rate in the USA. The media just spun his words.
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raamageddon ONLINE (08/31/2015) [-] My ex-girlfriend was there when he first came out with his intentions to run for President in his Texas visit. Honestly, it's really not being spun out of proportion. He pretty much spent the entire time there railing away at Mexico, saying they were sending all of their criminals here, that they were all rapists, thieves, and general ne'er-do-wells, saying "Mexico is not our friend" and all this stuff. While I agree that stronger border control would be great, electing this dude would not do well as far as relations with our neighboring countries or those afar go. He also made a pretty similar point with China, too.
He didn't even talk about the actual politics of anything while he was there. He just kept rolling that " **** the minorities" ball pretty hard.
People hate our country now. With someone like Trump in charge, we'd create an even worse image for ourselves. I'm not saying we don't need a strong leader, because we do. But we need someone who can talk softly and carry a big stick, not a loudmouth with deep pockets. He's right about needing to crack down on immigration and ******* off with China, but alienating the rest of the world even further? It's... Not a wise decision for someone who is the face of our country.
At least, that's my perception of things. I can tell you for sure the racism stuff is pretty true, getting into the political aspect, well... I'm not a politician, just my two cents, and an explanation on why I personally feel that he's likely a poor candidate.
He didn't even talk about the actual politics of anything while he was there. He just kept rolling that " **** the minorities" ball pretty hard.
People hate our country now. With someone like Trump in charge, we'd create an even worse image for ourselves. I'm not saying we don't need a strong leader, because we do. But we need someone who can talk softly and carry a big stick, not a loudmouth with deep pockets. He's right about needing to crack down on immigration and ******* off with China, but alienating the rest of the world even further? It's... Not a wise decision for someone who is the face of our country.
At least, that's my perception of things. I can tell you for sure the racism stuff is pretty true, getting into the political aspect, well... I'm not a politician, just my two cents, and an explanation on why I personally feel that he's likely a poor candidate.
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anon (09/06/2015) [-]
Mexico is not our friend. They're constantly screwing us. We don't need them, but they do need us.
You said, "people hat our country now", well that's with a president who apologizes for our country. Look at Russia, they're invading countries, and are still respected because they have a strong leader. Our leader is a bitch. We need a strong leader if we want to be respected again. We shouldn't seek to get other countries to "like" us. **** them. They'll hate us as long as we're successful.
Nothing he said was racist or wrong. He never said "they were all rapists, thieves" and such. That part you made up. Rapists and thieves do come across the border though. Maybe next time someone is raped by an illegal immigrant you can go down there and explain why their rape was necessary to maintain good relations with Mexico.
You said, "people hat our country now", well that's with a president who apologizes for our country. Look at Russia, they're invading countries, and are still respected because they have a strong leader. Our leader is a bitch. We need a strong leader if we want to be respected again. We shouldn't seek to get other countries to "like" us. **** them. They'll hate us as long as we're successful.
Nothing he said was racist or wrong. He never said "they were all rapists, thieves" and such. That part you made up. Rapists and thieves do come across the border though. Maybe next time someone is raped by an illegal immigrant you can go down there and explain why their rape was necessary to maintain good relations with Mexico.
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thebeatlesfan (08/30/2015) [-]
He said Mexicans crossing the border are criminals, drug dealers and rapists. And SOME he ASSUMED are good people. If that's not generalizing an entire group of people, I don't know what is.
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kibbleking (08/30/2015) [-] I don't know why someone wouldn't be opposed to preventing illegal immigration.
Why not? What would not be gained from that?
Why not? What would not be gained from that?
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balor (08/30/2015) [-] He didn't say he hated all mexican people, nor did he say he hated the culture.
He didn't say they commit crime because of their race.
He didn't say they were lesser than any given race.
All he ******* said was that the immigrants tend to commit alot of crime, so we should put tighter limits on immigration.
For ***** sake, do you guys want to end up like Sweden?
He didn't say they commit crime because of their race.
He didn't say they were lesser than any given race.
All he ******* said was that the immigrants tend to commit alot of crime, so we should put tighter limits on immigration.
For ***** sake, do you guys want to end up like Sweden?
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balor (08/30/2015) [-] The immigrants come in and commit crime and anybody who says anything is labeled a racist.
Nobody is blaming it on race either.
Let's say for example, you are a man who grows up in somalia or the congo.
You witnessed alot of ****** up things, you were encouraged to rape, you were probably raped yourself, and by the time you immigrate you are really ****** up in the head.
So you go to a first world country where people never have to be on guard and you see a vulnerable teenage girl, something would click in your mind and tell you that you have the perfect chance to rape her.
Nobody is blaming it on race either.
Let's say for example, you are a man who grows up in somalia or the congo.
You witnessed alot of ****** up things, you were encouraged to rape, you were probably raped yourself, and by the time you immigrate you are really ****** up in the head.
So you go to a first world country where people never have to be on guard and you see a vulnerable teenage girl, something would click in your mind and tell you that you have the perfect chance to rape her.
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anon (08/30/2015) [-]
Numerous studies show that immigrants have lower crime rates than natives www.immigrationpolicy.org/special-reports/criminalization-immigration-united-states
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donatelo (08/30/2015) [-] dont even see how i could be considered sjw by my comment, but i understand everyone here is so into the circlejerk that different opinions are branded as the equivalent of a witch or communist.
Thats not even remotely true, and even if it were that is not true with me...i am litterally racist myself. Its obvious that trump is demonstrating territory aggression and scapegoating that reflects historical similarities with immigrants in the past. Its also of no secret that he is playing the majority of racists like a fiddle.
Thats not even remotely true, and even if it were that is not true with me...i am litterally racist myself. Its obvious that trump is demonstrating territory aggression and scapegoating that reflects historical similarities with immigrants in the past. Its also of no secret that he is playing the majority of racists like a fiddle.
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unclelunchbox (08/30/2015) [-] Are you actually protecting that senile trust fund baby?
www.avclub.com/article/donald-trump-or-its-always-sunnys-frank-reynoldswh-222833
Here is a link for info and keks
www.avclub.com/article/donald-trump-or-its-always-sunnys-frank-reynoldswh-222833
Here is a link for info and keks
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unclelunchbox (08/31/2015) [-] medium.com/@jhermann/who-said-it-donald-trump-or-frank-from-it-s-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-b150d02cc0f8 I must know, what is your opinion on Donald Trump?
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unclelunchbox (09/01/2015) [-] "This isn't a reliable source" , why do you think that? What is a "reliable source"?
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unclelunchbox (09/01/2015) [-] Well I don't know what you consider credible. I don't honestly think our opinions will be swayed either way, so have a good day.
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balor (09/01/2015) [-] I looked through both of those articles.
You see, racism is when you want to belittle a race. I didn't see any of that here.
Nowhere did I see him belittle a race.
He discussed illegal immigration. He said he doesn't want illegal immigrants to birth their kids in america just so they can stay.
He didn't say mexicans or black people can't be legally american.
He said illegal immigrants and their children can't be legally american.
The other one also had nothing about him being racist was discussing accusations of racism which are quite ambiguous really and alot of those he said that he didn't care about the race.
I have yet to see anything about him belittling a race or culture.
So far you have not shown a single thing that would compel me to think he was the racist people make him out to be.
You see, racism is when you want to belittle a race. I didn't see any of that here.
Nowhere did I see him belittle a race.
He discussed illegal immigration. He said he doesn't want illegal immigrants to birth their kids in america just so they can stay.
He didn't say mexicans or black people can't be legally american.
He said illegal immigrants and their children can't be legally american.
The other one also had nothing about him being racist was discussing accusations of racism which are quite ambiguous really and alot of those he said that he didn't care about the race.
I have yet to see anything about him belittling a race or culture.
So far you have not shown a single thing that would compel me to think he was the racist people make him out to be.
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unclelunchbox (09/01/2015) [-] gawker.com/the-collected-quotes-of-donald-trump-on-the-blacks-1719961925 finally found a definitive answer
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balor (09/01/2015) [-] Some of these are really ******* stupid examples.
The others are likely made up, or taken out of context. And I am not saying that just because I don't want to change my opinion. Look at your sources man. Gawker has no journalist ethics. They are a gossip site.
gawker.com/conde-nasts-cfo-tried-to-pay-2-500-for-a-night-with-a-1718364339
This was an article that they took part in black mailing a cfo and outed him as gay. But since the article was taken down I will link you to a video discussing it.
That's just one example.
The others are likely made up, or taken out of context. And I am not saying that just because I don't want to change my opinion. Look at your sources man. Gawker has no journalist ethics. They are a gossip site.
gawker.com/conde-nasts-cfo-tried-to-pay-2-500-for-a-night-with-a-1718364339
This was an article that they took part in black mailing a cfo and outed him as gay. But since the article was taken down I will link you to a video discussing it.
That's just one example.
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unclelunchbox (09/02/2015) [-] I don't like him either way but maybe I was wrong, seeya
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unclelunchbox (09/01/2015) [-] Gotta bring out the big guns I guess mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/01/nyregion/trumps-instinct-for-racially-charged-rhetoric-before-his-presidential-bid.html?referrer=&_r=0
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xgrandmoffx (08/30/2015) [-] He isn't bashing corporations for making the decision to capitalize on cheap Chinese labor. He, himself, is a capitalist, and will trade with China as long as it's good for his company. Trump is bashing politicians in DC for making policy decisions that make trade with China the only way to stay competitive.
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urbanknightx (08/31/2015) [-] He should explain these things instead of saying the annotated explanation, which nobody understands and everyone misconstrues. I'm still for Bernie, but Trump is beginning to sound less evil the further I scroll down here.
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xgrandmoffx (08/30/2015) [-] How do you know he wasn't saying anything? Did you follow everything he said in years past?
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rockamekishiko (08/30/2015) [-] they pushed themselves when chinese do the work for 20 times less since americans enjoyed high wages and good livings
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tankeruber (08/30/2015) [-] Oh for **** sake, he outsources jobs to China to stay competitive, as he is a business man, and he has said that it's a shame he has to do that, but it's necessary to turn a profit that he is damn well deserving of. If it becomes cheaper to make his shirts or whatever in America, he would instantly bring production back home.
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tankeruber (08/30/2015) [-] You have a job crisis in america? I wasn't aware im just an europoor.
Why let so many mexicans into your country to take your jobs then?
Americans don't need sweatshop jobs, the chinese do and Trump as a smart businessman is using that to turn profit. So in short, no.
Why let so many mexicans into your country to take your jobs then?
Americans don't need sweatshop jobs, the chinese do and Trump as a smart businessman is using that to turn profit. So in short, no.
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heartlessrobot (08/30/2015) [-] We're trying to stop the mexicans from coming in, but other countries are acting like we're turning into Nazi germany because of it.
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ronyx (08/30/2015) [-] So i guess all those "MADE IN USA" clothing you can buy here in the US are losing a profit or not making a profit at all. Newsflash, Trump's clothing line ain't exactly a 10 dollar shirt so **** off with the "He is only doing it to barely get a profit". Trump is a greedy cunt who also exploits chapter 11.
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tankeruber (08/30/2015) [-] Is someone not entitled to making a profit if his buisness is working in a specific way?
**** off commie.
**** off commie.
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tankeruber (08/30/2015) [-] >focusing on me calling you a commie vs answering my question
Oh right, you can't answer without either reversing your ideals or admitting to being a communist.
Oh right, you can't answer without either reversing your ideals or admitting to being a communist.
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ronyx (08/30/2015) [-] Well he claims to be FOR the poor middle class and how illegals are stealing jobs he is outsourcing and how China is ruining the US while he makes his crap in China. Mate, if you're really a eurofag then you got no idea of the ******** trump spills out on his conventions. I already answered your question like 3 comments ago, but since you don't know what the **** Trump is all about then you're just wasting my time.
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insaneflame (08/30/2015) [-] tankeruber has some valid points
You're just making accusations with either false evidence or lose evidence heard from in reputable sources.
You're just making accusations with either false evidence or lose evidence heard from in reputable sources.
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insaneflame (08/30/2015) [-] Dis bitch be talkin **** even doh' she ain't got bros to back her up.
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anon (08/30/2015) [-]
I've been up-to-date on elections and stuff in the US, mostly because your military is literally the lifeline to a modern society, without you pampering us the EU is too pussyfooted to build up an army that could actually whistand Russians, the biggest causes of that being france pussying out, 2/5 of the countries claiming neutrality, 1/5 of the countries too plagued by muslims to care or not even wish to resist occupation by papa bear, Germany having flashbacks to nazism and going back to it's happy place in furryland, and other countries being the size of a singular state, and one of the smaller ones.
Trump has his flaws, the mayor one being creationism, but it's better than utter ruin that Hillary would bring or communism that Sanders would bring. The "socialist democrat dream" that bernie is foaming about is falling together in the northern states. (I should know, Estonia here, 2h boat ride to Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, all of those so-called dream example countries) Also, the cuck couldn't defend his mic from 2 raving ******* , how can he represent America, he'd be too intimidated by Putin to even speak, let alone confront him, unlike Trump.
Also, thanks for blocking me, faggot.
Trump has his flaws, the mayor one being creationism, but it's better than utter ruin that Hillary would bring or communism that Sanders would bring. The "socialist democrat dream" that bernie is foaming about is falling together in the northern states. (I should know, Estonia here, 2h boat ride to Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, all of those so-called dream example countries) Also, the cuck couldn't defend his mic from 2 raving ******* , how can he represent America, he'd be too intimidated by Putin to even speak, let alone confront him, unlike Trump.
Also, thanks for blocking me, faggot.
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cheddarcheesestick (08/30/2015) [-] he was a business man then, **** changes if he's the president.
like how black and white is the world for you?
like how black and white is the world for you?
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tankeruber (08/30/2015) [-] He said that because he was directly conforted by somebody claiming double standards and showing him that "made in china" tag on his shirts, no reason to mention it before, the tag was on the shirts.
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donatelo (08/30/2015) [-] Here is the difference then....for example, i dont like Cruz as a candidate, but when asked a few questions in the republican debates, he asnwered with policies and bills he has pushed and advocated before...showing that he atleast has tried before the election. Trump only has said this now, its not a matter of "oh nobody has asked me before"....its if, "if you are about it then show it...dont just say it."
If there was no reason to mention it before, then it is unlikely that he cared about it before...otherwise, he was in a business mind before. if so, you cant just jump into a political mind set now. I doubt trump would hurt his own private businesses in order to do something for the people.
If there was no reason to mention it before, then it is unlikely that he cared about it before...otherwise, he was in a business mind before. if so, you cant just jump into a political mind set now. I doubt trump would hurt his own private businesses in order to do something for the people.
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tankeruber (08/30/2015) [-] Actually, Trump not so long ago was a Liberal and ran for the democrats.
His business mindset might actually save America, he said himself he isn't a politician, so he isn't here to speak, he's here to do stuff, "Make America great again".
There was no reason to say "I want more jobs in America" with the "but I have workers in China", because with the second part comes the hard explanation of "Bad laws have made creating a competitive business with 100% American-produced goods hard, because labor laws and the like have driven all manufacturing to China, outsourcing to China would be cheaper than having them made here, so In order to both keep prices low enough that people would buy his shirts, and still turn a profit, the primary goal of a business, he was forced to outsource jobs to China. If he hadn't outsourced to China he would have either A) Made no profit from the business, thus making it redundant to even own it, thus he would have been forced to wipe the slate clean and get the funds from it to make another business, you get the funds by declaring bankrupcy, a common move when you have multiple businesses. B) If he had increased the prices, he would have made a profit, but wouldn't sell nearly as much as his competitors, thus earning marginally less, being able to expand much slower, and the business also becoming redundant."
Really, as an owner of many, many businesses, what he is doing is fine, in terms of outsourcing to China. He has promised to fix the labour laws, thus allowing him to bring production back to America, thus creating jobs in a competitive environment, thus boosting the economy. Literally best candidate 10/10.
His business mindset might actually save America, he said himself he isn't a politician, so he isn't here to speak, he's here to do stuff, "Make America great again".
There was no reason to say "I want more jobs in America" with the "but I have workers in China", because with the second part comes the hard explanation of "Bad laws have made creating a competitive business with 100% American-produced goods hard, because labor laws and the like have driven all manufacturing to China, outsourcing to China would be cheaper than having them made here, so In order to both keep prices low enough that people would buy his shirts, and still turn a profit, the primary goal of a business, he was forced to outsource jobs to China. If he hadn't outsourced to China he would have either A) Made no profit from the business, thus making it redundant to even own it, thus he would have been forced to wipe the slate clean and get the funds from it to make another business, you get the funds by declaring bankrupcy, a common move when you have multiple businesses. B) If he had increased the prices, he would have made a profit, but wouldn't sell nearly as much as his competitors, thus earning marginally less, being able to expand much slower, and the business also becoming redundant."
Really, as an owner of many, many businesses, what he is doing is fine, in terms of outsourcing to China. He has promised to fix the labour laws, thus allowing him to bring production back to America, thus creating jobs in a competitive environment, thus boosting the economy. Literally best candidate 10/10.
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donatelo (08/30/2015) [-] ********* ...i just wrote a long reply before my laptop reset. heres a summary of what i wrote.
-business=/= politics
-while i want corop jobs back in the usa, that plan along with his other ones (already estimated at 300+ billion) will give the US a huge economic gut punch that will either increase debt by borrowing or increasing taxes.
-its "fine" because of the de-regulated rules of the neo-liberal politics...to fix it would take regulation...which repubs is against.
-his solutions are longterm with a huge economic bite....even then its a gamble, dont know why we would gamble on the longterm withc such a huge econmic bite short term.
still sad i lost the long version lel. at the end of the day i will vote for whats best for the US, but sadly trump is not.
-business=/= politics
-while i want corop jobs back in the usa, that plan along with his other ones (already estimated at 300+ billion) will give the US a huge economic gut punch that will either increase debt by borrowing or increasing taxes.
-its "fine" because of the de-regulated rules of the neo-liberal politics...to fix it would take regulation...which repubs is against.
-his solutions are longterm with a huge economic bite....even then its a gamble, dont know why we would gamble on the longterm withc such a huge econmic bite short term.
still sad i lost the long version lel. at the end of the day i will vote for whats best for the US, but sadly trump is not.
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tankeruber (08/31/2015) [-] Business = Politics quite often, Banks--->Lobbyists--->Power to Politician A --> Politician A enpowers banks.
Trump cuts out the Banks and boosts his own power.
He was against increasing taxes last I checked.
Not willing to do any research on Neoliberalism right now, so I will concede that point.
Many of his solutions wouldn't take all that long to implement, and the "economic bite" isn't nearly as huge as what Bernie and Hillary are proposing.
Trump cuts out the Banks and boosts his own power.
He was against increasing taxes last I checked.
Not willing to do any research on Neoliberalism right now, so I will concede that point.
Many of his solutions wouldn't take all that long to implement, and the "economic bite" isn't nearly as huge as what Bernie and Hillary are proposing.
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donatelo (08/31/2015) [-] Bernie also wants to cut out big banks aka lobbyists, and refuses to accept donations from them, so if you want to make that point about trump might as well extend it to bernie.
The problem and differenec with trump, is that since he has historically donated to politicians for favors, he cuts out the middle man and grants the favors himself. against Tax increase to whom? taxes are essential brev.
i dont care about hillary, but bernies where are you getting that bernies plans are going to have a larger bite? Trumps biggest talking point is immigration, and his immigration plan is estimated at 300 billion alone.
The problem and differenec with trump, is that since he has historically donated to politicians for favors, he cuts out the middle man and grants the favors himself. against Tax increase to whom? taxes are essential brev.
i dont care about hillary, but bernies where are you getting that bernies plans are going to have a larger bite? Trumps biggest talking point is immigration, and his immigration plan is estimated at 300 billion alone.
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tankeruber (09/01/2015) [-] I know taxes are somewhat essential, but Trump is against increasing it for anyone, and would rather shift money from useless programms into better ones, not keep the worthless ones running and just get more funding for good ones by increasing taxes.
Bernie wants to turn America into Scandinavia, a "socialist-democratic heaven" that is right now falling apart due to 1% of the immigration you have, while having about 260 million people less. I should know it's falling apart, I'm from Estonia and within a 2h boat ride to any of the "example" countries such as Denmark, Norway, Sweden etc. and they are falling flat on their ass, when facts and things are being replaced by being progressive and helping every single person who even dreams about coming into the country. It's quite literally dying to it's own ideals.
Bernie wants to turn America into Scandinavia, a "socialist-democratic heaven" that is right now falling apart due to 1% of the immigration you have, while having about 260 million people less. I should know it's falling apart, I'm from Estonia and within a 2h boat ride to any of the "example" countries such as Denmark, Norway, Sweden etc. and they are falling flat on their ass, when facts and things are being replaced by being progressive and helping every single person who even dreams about coming into the country. It's quite literally dying to it's own ideals.
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donatelo (09/01/2015) [-] Bernie wont turn the united states to a socialist state...presidents simply do not hold that kind of power, the same people that continuously said Obama would rewrite the constitution and become a communist dictator are the ones saying that about bernie, and honestly have no idea how the united states government work.
What programs is he going to cut? He is talking about cutting veterans affairs office, which i dont think is useless. like i said, his biggest talking point is going to cost 300 billion, and even then it is not going to solve the immigration issue because mexican immigrant are on a decling rate, meanwhile central america, carribean, and overseas-visa overstayers are increasing (45% of illegals are visa over stayers).
The cost of his proposals need increase in taxes, its simple economics.....you cant just throw money around when there is none. Bush cut taxes meanwhile trying to keep his programs in place(he also cut "useless" programs for that extra money) and we already know how that ended. Taxes are not somewhat essential, its the reason how our government entities function so we dont end up like a **** country like greece.
What programs is he going to cut? He is talking about cutting veterans affairs office, which i dont think is useless. like i said, his biggest talking point is going to cost 300 billion, and even then it is not going to solve the immigration issue because mexican immigrant are on a decling rate, meanwhile central america, carribean, and overseas-visa overstayers are increasing (45% of illegals are visa over stayers).
The cost of his proposals need increase in taxes, its simple economics.....you cant just throw money around when there is none. Bush cut taxes meanwhile trying to keep his programs in place(he also cut "useless" programs for that extra money) and we already know how that ended. Taxes are not somewhat essential, its the reason how our government entities function so we dont end up like a **** country like greece.
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rockamekishiko (08/30/2015) [-] yeah but he said he was going to stop buying oreos because they're moving their factories to mexico. so is he a hypocrite or what ...?
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tankeruber (08/30/2015) [-] He also said he supports creationism, never said he's perfect, and that is valid criticism onto him as he probably should have thought about the oreo business and staying competitive with dominos, but his faults are made up by him being overall the best candidate.
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rockamekishiko (08/30/2015) [-] dominos? he's not the best candidate, he's not even the least bad candidate. He is stupidly confident and for some reason you retards love that
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tankeruber (08/30/2015) [-] Dominos are the Oreos of europe, made in china, real cheap, slightly softer cookies than oreos. We have both here.
Historically anytime the republicans proposed a non-extremist right-winger as their potential president, the democrats won, so the other republicans are out of the picture, last I checked Trump has only promised things that the president can change, compared to utopian ******** Bernie and Hillary spew, any other candidate proboably won't make it to the final 1v1, I wager it's going to be Bernie vs Trump, and Trump is going to win. The only policies I don't agree with are his support of creationism and the continued teaching of it in some states, but other than that, Bernie will whittle America into a communist state, I've seen the signs all before in 1934 Estonia, with the second constitution, and Hillary is really a joke candidate, focusing on emotion instead of facts. The fact that he is extremely confident and strong-minded is good, because bitchboy Obama can't say "No" to Putin, while Trump might have the backbone to actually do it. He promises simple things to the simple american, and that's why he is a great candidate, and since I'm an EU fag and your military keeps us safe, if Trump wants to improve your military I'm all for that, while Bernie wants to leave us in the cold by reducing spending, making further budget cuts to the military and reducing your military a neccessary move, witch ******* sucks for any 1st world country, as Russia and China pour as much money into Military as they can without having to worry about bitchy baby-boomers being mad about it, and America will have to either face backlash from half it's community and leave EU in the cold, losing potential business partners, or suffer backlash anyway because any money that isn't spent directly benefiting baby boomers is money ill spent, apparently.
Historically anytime the republicans proposed a non-extremist right-winger as their potential president, the democrats won, so the other republicans are out of the picture, last I checked Trump has only promised things that the president can change, compared to utopian ******** Bernie and Hillary spew, any other candidate proboably won't make it to the final 1v1, I wager it's going to be Bernie vs Trump, and Trump is going to win. The only policies I don't agree with are his support of creationism and the continued teaching of it in some states, but other than that, Bernie will whittle America into a communist state, I've seen the signs all before in 1934 Estonia, with the second constitution, and Hillary is really a joke candidate, focusing on emotion instead of facts. The fact that he is extremely confident and strong-minded is good, because bitchboy Obama can't say "No" to Putin, while Trump might have the backbone to actually do it. He promises simple things to the simple american, and that's why he is a great candidate, and since I'm an EU fag and your military keeps us safe, if Trump wants to improve your military I'm all for that, while Bernie wants to leave us in the cold by reducing spending, making further budget cuts to the military and reducing your military a neccessary move, witch ******* sucks for any 1st world country, as Russia and China pour as much money into Military as they can without having to worry about bitchy baby-boomers being mad about it, and America will have to either face backlash from half it's community and leave EU in the cold, losing potential business partners, or suffer backlash anyway because any money that isn't spent directly benefiting baby boomers is money ill spent, apparently.
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heartlessrobot (08/30/2015) [-] And none of them should be in a lick of trouble for what they say.
It's words, if they hurt you, then you need to grow a spine, this ain't Harry Potter, words don't do **** . This isn't preschool, people.
It's words, if they hurt you, then you need to grow a spine, this ain't Harry Potter, words don't do **** . This isn't preschool, people.
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tkfourtwoone ONLINE (08/30/2015) [-] Oh, just words, eh?
"heartlessrobot's entire ******* family is subhuman and should be maimed & killed" - what, you find that offensive? Lol, grow a spine, you will get over it!
"heartlessrobot's entire ******* family is subhuman and should be maimed & killed" - what, you find that offensive? Lol, grow a spine, you will get over it!
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heartlessrobot (08/30/2015) [-] I don't give a **** dood.
I've told myself worse while out for a jog to keep myself motivated.
I've told myself worse while out for a jog to keep myself motivated.
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heartlessrobot (08/30/2015) [-] No but people are acting like these people are satan because they said ****** .
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donatelo (08/30/2015) [-] nobody is acting like that. sponsors pulled them for what they said, and the media reported on it. as from what i have observed, nobody cares about paula...hulk fans and alot of other people are supporting him, the nba owner no one cares about either but he was a known asshole and drunk so theres that. The only one who people care about and who act like is satan is trump.
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therealfell (08/30/2015) [-] yeah actually they ******* do
those are private companies they work for
they want to keep their jobs and make the money that they do, all they've got to do is keep their **** together
not be racist cunts
not throw ******* plantation style weddings where the blacker you are, the further back in the kitchen away from the guests you stay
and then cry about how your great great granddaddy lost everything when the slaves were freed
yeah. that's ALL they have to ******* not do
those are private companies they work for
they want to keep their jobs and make the money that they do, all they've got to do is keep their **** together
not be racist cunts
not throw ******* plantation style weddings where the blacker you are, the further back in the kitchen away from the guests you stay
and then cry about how your great great granddaddy lost everything when the slaves were freed
yeah. that's ALL they have to ******* not do
