German Army rules. Who would have thought?. THEV WINK llel] HUMAN . FEW. B. Actually every country that has signed the Geneva Convention has that rule
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#52 - tavafanduvill (12/28/2013) [+] (14 replies)
Actually every country that has signed the Geneva Convention has that rule
User avatar #5 - therealtjthemedic (12/27/2013) [+] (9 replies)
What if they disobey that?
User avatar #17 to #5 - biomedic (12/27/2013) [-]
A black hole opens and consume them where they stand.
#3 - akho (12/27/2013) [+] (4 replies)
For you see, he who has done evil will learn from himself - he will overcome himself and from ashes rises a new man -a Supermensch. It is in defeat where he is victorious.
A man that is surpassed by no others, a man who is target of his own prophesy.
#13 - anonymous (12/27/2013) [-]
idk it might be because of like the cold war or the vietnam war
#47 - traffy (12/28/2013) [-]
#6 - tobloi (12/27/2013) [-]
As a general rule in any militant law you can disobey an order if the outcome of the order could mean death on a large scale of innocent people, it's hard to tell which orders are going to have that outcome without hindsight
#28 - anonymous (12/27/2013) [+] (3 replies)
In the US, we are also obligated to disobey any illegal order. An illegal order being one that violates human rights or the constitution of the US to which we swear an oath.

That does not however mean, that is how it works in practice, as we've seen in recent years with things like Abu Ghraib. I recommend reading about the Milgram Experiment. It helps to understand how people get drawn into violating their own principles when challenged to by authority, and understanding that psychological influence can help resist it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_Experiment
#220 - Imabur (12/28/2013) [+] (1 reply)
after that whole 'nazi' thing, i feel like it was kind of mandatory for them to make this rule...
#43 - TARDIS (12/28/2013) [-]
Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes
#204 - fyaq (12/28/2013) [+] (7 replies)
Its part of the geneva convention.

I'm sure the armchair activists here don't even know what that is.
User avatar #95 - thegrayfox (12/28/2013) [+] (8 replies)
Dude, after two world wars, I'm surprised they even have an army.

At least Japan had the decency to make themselves unable to declare war through their constitution.
#97 to #95 - mrpavelowgrimm ONLINE (12/28/2013) [-]
Making yourself do something is rather easy when getting nuke into oblivion is the second option.
Making yourself do something is rather easy when getting nuke into oblivion is the second option.
#229 - alexanderthefunny (12/28/2013) [+] (1 reply)
The obligation to disobey an order which violates human dignity is a choice that people with morality make, regardless of what army they are a part of.
#181 - cobrafan (12/28/2013) [+] (1 reply)
American military personnel are not allowed to follow any order that defies the constitution, which is why they can't say, "I was just following orders," in court.
#193 - Soviet Savior (12/28/2013) [+] (8 replies)
Obviously this is a newer rule...
#159 - firefaux (12/28/2013) [+] (1 reply)
here is a list of all the reasons you are wrong.   
1. This applies to the entire German Armed Forces   
2. They are FREE to disobey any order they may find unethical, immoral, or that compromises the terms and agreements made during the Third and Fourth Geneva Convention (a.k.a. Grave Breaches)   
3. This also applies to the other 194 countries and armies belonging to said countries that also ratified its treaties.   
   
This is stressed more in Germany however because of the fact that Germany has no military court, so they could possibly be charged with murder during a firefight because the court does not subtly acknowledge the fact of war and it would take money and time to fully explain it to the judge, so it's stressed to save the hassle.
here is a list of all the reasons you are wrong.
1. This applies to the entire German Armed Forces
2. They are FREE to disobey any order they may find unethical, immoral, or that compromises the terms and agreements made during the Third and Fourth Geneva Convention (a.k.a. Grave Breaches)
3. This also applies to the other 194 countries and armies belonging to said countries that also ratified its treaties.

This is stressed more in Germany however because of the fact that Germany has no military court, so they could possibly be charged with murder during a firefight because the court does not subtly acknowledge the fact of war and it would take money and time to fully explain it to the judge, so it's stressed to save the hassle.
User avatar #64 - useroftheLOLZ (12/28/2013) [-]
Uh, most modern militarizes have similar rules of engagement. In the USA, in every branch, if your commanding officer issues an order, that you believe to be cruel, or inhumane, due to the circumstances of the situation, you are able to belay that order, and report to the next commanding officer, AKA the boss of your boss. There, they will judge it. And depending on what happens, your CO may be reprimanded, or you may be just sent on your merry way. Or, if you know that there is something seriously wrong about the situation, you may continue up the chain of command, but it becomes increasingly more difficult to get someone to listen to your story. So, in truth, OP's post sucks because only back water, butt fucking, insane countries have rules of engagement like this. Prime example being Best Korea, or Soviet Russia during WW2.
User avatar #308 - vicecomx (12/28/2013) [+] (6 replies)
I respect the people who live in the German culture. They learn from their mistakes.
#44 - sethbean (12/28/2013) [+] (5 replies)
In the US Army, we're told to disobey any orders that are illegal, or immoral.
#300 - anonymous (12/28/2013) [+] (5 replies)
**anonymous rolls 99**
User avatar #50 - mettih (12/28/2013) [+] (52 replies)
Isnt it something about Germany doesnt have an army?
User avatar #87 to #86 - ivoryhammer (12/28/2013) [-]
Actually yeah, English is kinda "the universal" language. Blame England for that, if you think it's a bad thing.
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