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New York is a state in the Northeastern and Mid-Atlantic regions of the United States. New York is the 27th-most extensive, the third-most populous, and the seventh-most densely populated of the 50 United States. New York is bordered by New Jersey and Pennsylvania to the south and by Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Vermont to the east. The state has a maritime border with Rhode Island east of Long Island, as well as an international border with the Canadian provinces of Ontario to the west and north, and Quebec to the north. The state of New York is often referred to as New York State, so as to distinguish it from New York City.

New York City, with a Census-estimated population of over 8.3 million in 2012,[8][9] is the most populous city in the United States.[10][11] Alone, it makes up over 40 percent of the population of New York State. It is known for its status as a center for finance and culture and for its status as the largest gateway for immigration to the United States. New York City attracts considerably more foreign visitors than any other US city.[12] Both the state and city were named for the 17th century Duke of York, future King James II of England.

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1 know this isn' t going to be a popular opinion, but I' m gay, and T
don' t think there' s nearly as much discrimination as people claim.
Don' t get me wrong, I' experienced discrimination. But it hasn' t
been a huge factor in my life. Heel like a lot of people bring
discrimination on themselves by getting in people' s faces too
much. They like to saw 'Accept me or else!' They go around
demanding respect as a member of a group, instead offereing
respect as an individual. And that sort of behavior invites
discrimination. Ne never demanded respect because horas gay,
and I haven' t experienced much discrimination when people find
out that I am."
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#5 - dephira (02/19/2014) [+] (15 replies)
It's nice for that guy that he was able to live his life without much discrimination, but as long as there are gay teenagers kicked out by their parents and being killed in some countries for being gay. And even in the US, yes, I might not be beaten up for being gay, but if I hold hands with my boyfriend I will get weird stares (in liberal states) or verbal abuse levied against me (in less liberal states). So it seems a bit short-sighted of this guy to generalize his experience onto an entire population of people, a lot of whom have had it a lot harder than him.

No one who's gay demands to be respected as member of a group; from the get-go, they are less respected for being part of that very group and then, if they manage to stand out as an individual, they might be regarded with respect: "oh, for a gay person, you're actually really cool". **** that. As a straight person, you start out neutral, and if you do something bad, you'll lose respect. As a gay person, you start out facing prejudice and if you do well, you'll advance to the neutral ground. Let's not even get into the fact how wrong the statement "they go around demanding respect as a member of a group is" when in fact everything you do as a gay person will reflect back on the whole group, because that's how the rest of society sees us. As long as we don't have the luxury of being judged as individuals, gay discrimination clearly exists.
User avatar #2 - shaftyface (02/19/2014) [+] (5 replies)
Gay & Feminist activist groups need more people with this guys mentality.
User avatar #34 - JwBread (02/20/2014) [+] (1 reply)
I'm gay and I hate it when other gay people do the 'omg I'm gay don't discriminate' routine. A friend of mine is also gay, but the more flamboyant, feminine type. We went out to a club with friends a few times and all night he'd be grinding against straight guys, hugging and kissing girls in front of their boyfriends (it would only be a peck on the cheek, but still) and then just acting like a general huge faggot. Once people knew he was gay, which wasn't hard to be honest, he'd add a hostile comment amongst the lines of 'and I'm proud so if you don't like it, tough'

Towards the end of almost every night, he'd start crying about how hard it is to be gay, how people discriminate against him and all the usual ******** . I've personally never had anyone be mean to me to my face because of being gay, because I don't shove it in people's faces.

Long story short, If you don't want to be treated different, don't act like you're an exception and that the world owes you something.
#1 - agreatusername (02/19/2014) [+] (16 replies)
Well, he's not wrong. I don't like being treated like **** for the actions of the rest of the group that Im in.
User avatar #6 to #4 - vpngtn ONLINE (02/19/2014) [-]
please, even if this is a joke, lets keep it in ponytime.
#26 - nerdrugger (02/19/2014) [+] (42 replies)
this guy was fortunate to not face that much prejudice, but not all are as lucky as him to live in a place where being gay wasn't a big deal. If this guy lived in the south, Russia, India, the Middle East, much of Africa, he would probably be singing a different tune

people should be judged and treated by who they are as an individual person

but when a group of people are being unfairly discriminated against, that is when they have to stand up for their rights.
#164 - jackjr (02/20/2014) [+] (4 replies)
I've never had any issues with discrimination for being gay...    
   
That might be because I'm straight though.
I've never had any issues with discrimination for being gay...

That might be because I'm straight though.
#49 - slenderwolf (02/20/2014) [+] (1 reply)
I live in Texas, so I've heard more than my fare share of horror stories about coming out. This man was lucky he wasn't discriminated against, but there is no clear equation on how you will be treated no matter what group you are a part of.
#128 - wanicochil (02/20/2014) [+] (6 replies)
If I came out if I was bi in my area I would be ridiculed and outcasted, if I said I had a crush on a guy, almost every guy would avoid me and I would be left a very lonely person   
   
It depends on where you live, not one person can speak for everyone, he is making baseless points based on his lifestyle, not researched through many different peoples lives and locations, everything isn't black and white, there are about 1000000 different shades of grey   
   
Example - We asked one of my guy friends who is a huge homophobic that if his best friend of 15 or so years came out gay, they would still be friends, and he said no, he would hate his bestfriend with a passion   
   
Now imagine that in a catholic school, but everyone has that state of thought   
   
And I most likely would of been kicked out by my parents, but that's a different story
If I came out if I was bi in my area I would be ridiculed and outcasted, if I said I had a crush on a guy, almost every guy would avoid me and I would be left a very lonely person

It depends on where you live, not one person can speak for everyone, he is making baseless points based on his lifestyle, not researched through many different peoples lives and locations, everything isn't black and white, there are about 1000000 different shades of grey

Example - We asked one of my guy friends who is a huge homophobic that if his best friend of 15 or so years came out gay, they would still be friends, and he said no, he would hate his bestfriend with a passion

Now imagine that in a catholic school, but everyone has that state of thought

And I most likely would of been kicked out by my parents, but that's a different story
#69 - xxxsonic fanxxx (02/20/2014) [+] (1 reply)
One of my favorite streamers and youtube personalities didn't come out as gay. Someone asked him in his stream and he replied "Do I give the impression I'm gay? Do I seem gay?" to which everyone responded yes/no and then he just straight up said (no pun intended) "Yeah guys im gay tho" and that was it no giant ******* IM OUT THE CLOSET INTERNET, he just said "yup im gay" and that was it. He hasn't lost any viewers, he hasn't gained any viewers. He treated it like he was telling the internet what his favorite kind of ice cream was, so thats how the internet treated his response.
User avatar #17 - lurg (02/19/2014) [+] (6 replies)
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personally my coming out experience was meet with a fair amount of support from both parents and friends which was incredibly refreshing and unexpected. honestly this guys mentality is pretty awesome but id like to add the point that telling any and every one is both pointless and wrong. its no ones business but my own, if people are interested then they ******* ask and i tell but i find no need to tell for the sake of telling. I find it particularly annoying when friends take it upon them selves to tell people, sometimes out of spite and sometimes because they are assholes and yet other times they do it because they don't think it matters.
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#22 to #17 - phoenixactual (02/19/2014) [-]
Gay is one thing, it almost seems that, by telling random people, you're expecting special treatment. You want to try challenging, try being trans and coming out. People in your life are going to have to know eventually anyways, and you WILL lose friends
#178 - jakols (02/20/2014) [+] (2 replies)
as a straight man i really have no saying in this but, i think this guy got a point...
i don't feel like the discrimination is happening because of the sexual orientation itself,
but rather because the person him/herself and the persons behavior.
A rather "stereotypical" overthetop gay man isn't frowned upon for being attracted to
other men, as much as he is frowned upon for being "all up in yo face with that **** ".
For some reason the word Gay and "Camp" (Feminine) have been mixed up.
A gay man is nothing else but a man who likes other men.
There is absolutely no relation between being attracted to men and having fabulous fashion sense...
I really do fail to see the connection between ******* men in the ass and complete control over color-coordination for decorating living rooms.
So in my opinion its the "Campness" people get all worked up over.
All the "IM GAY"! *makeup and tight clothes* "LOOOOOK AAAAT MEEEE"!*bent hand* that's whats bothering the **** out of people... There is absolutely no valid reason for the "overthetop" gay men to suddenly start talking "gay". you all know what i mean... that incredibly aggravating tone of voice and the ******* lisp "Liek Ohmahgaaawd thats shsick"
im not saying that all gay men does all of this, but the few who does is also the ones who yells "Discrimination" the loudest in the media. The Stereotypical Gay man.
As any other minority group there is a few who ruin it for the many.
even tho i don't live in the US myself I feel that i't would be "Easier" being gay in Europe, which is a shame really.
just the fact that the US have a really strong presence of the catholic church with over 80% of the country being Christians, people tend to have more Conservative views of things than eg. The UK.
Sorry for the rant people, it's just something i've been thinking about every time i see one of the "Being Gay" posts here on FJ.
anyhow just my two cents.
#96 - xxxsonic fanxxx (02/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #98 - GLJR (02/20/2014) [+] (2 replies)
"Doesn't want any attention" as he's wearing a $495 Burberry scarf.
User avatar #104 to #98 - loneranger (02/20/2014) [-]
I didn't see any fruit on his scarf.
#74 - nibbero (02/20/2014) [+] (2 replies)
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#158 - phatsno (02/20/2014) [+] (1 reply)
respect, but what is the point of the puffin? enlighten me fj
respect, but what is the point of the puffin? enlighten me fj
#162 to #158 - mindmatter (02/20/2014) [-]
The puffin is "unpopular opinion puffin"

It's a meme.
User avatar #107 - justinsane (02/20/2014) [+] (3 replies)
You live in NYC. Try growing up in the dirty south
User avatar #67 - drunkasaurus (02/20/2014) [+] (3 replies)
This is true, I'm gay and can confirm. Every time someone finds out I'm gay it's either because they're being nosy and ask me or find out behind my back, or because I've become close enough with them to talk about relationships so my sexuality has to become a topic of conversation or I'd be lying. At no point do I put on a tank top with rainbow penises embroidered upon it and ask for unconditional acceptance from everyone in my life. Yes, I get **** from my flamboyant friends for not "being myself" and sure, part of me would love to flaunt my sexuality and let it be known to the world, but that's simply annoying to most people, and that is not how homosexuality will come into full acceptance. The reason the majority of people change their mind about gays is because they know a close friend of family member, one that always acted "normal" who suddenly comes out to them and explains what hell its been keeping it a secret from them... It sucks, but that's how you gain acceptance, not demanding it while wearing a dragon dildos on your forehead and women's jewelry.
User avatar #39 - richardstiffy (02/20/2014) [-]
That's his personal experience. There's obviously a ton of discrimination going on. I agree with what nerdrugger said: "this guy was fortunate to not face that much prejudice, but not all are as lucky as him to live in a place where being gay wasn't a big deal. If this guy lived in the south, Russia, India, the Middle East, much of Africa, he would probably be singing a different tune "

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States

thinkprogress.org/security/2013/12/20/3093931/uganda-passes-kill-gays-anti-homosexuality/#

rt.com/news/man-killed-homophobia-russia-198/

www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/131219/latin-america-homophobic-killing-lgbt

Ignorance is bliss.
#189 - bitchesbanthymine (02/20/2014) [+] (1 reply)
Personally I don't have a problem with gay people, but a lot of the gays I know do try to wedge it into conversation more than should be humanly possible.
User avatar #135 - muertealosafricano (02/20/2014) [-]
Holy ******* **** I actually agree with a faggot for once.
Too bad this guy is the 1% and the other 99 are out sucking dick in front of school kids.
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