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zenthos (08/01/2015) [-] Has a new programmer do you people really write that much buggy code?
Like I when I write the only time I have bugs is from memory leak or simply doing something that is stupid. Like lets be real memory leak is not hard to fix and if you use Java or anything besides c/c++ there is garbage collection 'magically'. Also like who uses a editer that does not have built in debug so you know before you compile that its not going to work.
Like I when I write the only time I have bugs is from memory leak or simply doing something that is stupid. Like lets be real memory leak is not hard to fix and if you use Java or anything besides c/c++ there is garbage collection 'magically'. Also like who uses a editer that does not have built in debug so you know before you compile that its not going to work.
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anon (08/01/2015) [-]
Haven't worked in industry, but in my classes, I have worked in teams. I think the problem stems from people (me included) writing code fast rather than "correct". Pretty sure I speak for the whole team when I say I don't understand the underlying game engine, but I will exploit the heck out of C++ to get it to do what we need.
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zenthos (08/01/2015) [-] Never thought of that. I have not worked in a team for programming yet. Different people doing different things I could see how it go wrong. I was thinking solo stuff.
I am to getting my 2 year done this fall and looking for a 4 year school now. How far along are you buddy?
I am to getting my 2 year done this fall and looking for a 4 year school now. How far along are you buddy?
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LocoJoe (07/28/2015) [-] You're getting paid dude. ******* want red? I'll red that bitch up. USSR wouldn't beat my amount of red.
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wowdahmelm (07/30/2015) [-] **wowdahmelm used "*roll picture*"**
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Very nice. Let's hope I can keep it shining.
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Very nice. Let's hope I can keep it shining.
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swagbot (07/29/2015) [-]
Amen, bro.
Many people (including myself) made the mistake of thinking of the products of a 9-5 job as 'Your own'. They're not.
Most jobs are just hamster mills, and most companies make a living on making ****** stuff. Go there, work 9-5, make your money, leave.
You wanna make your own super-pretty Web Site / piece of Art / Game?
Do it in your own personal project.
Many people (including myself) made the mistake of thinking of the products of a 9-5 job as 'Your own'. They're not.
Most jobs are just hamster mills, and most companies make a living on making ****** stuff. Go there, work 9-5, make your money, leave.
You wanna make your own super-pretty Web Site / piece of Art / Game?
Do it in your own personal project.
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civilizedwasteland (07/28/2015) [-] the whole getting paid part doesn't really continue if you let the game be **** .
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swagbot (07/30/2015) [-]
It does for a long, long time.
Just do your 'good' projects at home, and as the big, bulky, dumb companies fail, move in to fill the gap in the market.
Look at that the (good) indie games are doing to the gaming market.
Look at what Git did to the version control software market.
Small web dev studios still dominate the market, b/c they make their products with craftsmanship and care, not for some big, sluggish company.
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Just do your 'good' projects at home, and as the big, bulky, dumb companies fail, move in to fill the gap in the market.
Look at that the (good) indie games are doing to the gaming market.
Look at what Git did to the version control software market.
Small web dev studios still dominate the market, b/c they make their products with craftsmanship and care, not for some big, sluggish company.
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mobilebull (07/28/2015) [-] **mobilebull used "*roll picture*"**
**mobilebull rolled image** <- this is how its like to be a dildo tester
**mobilebull rolled image** <- this is how its like to be a dildo tester
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unpopulartruth (07/29/2015) [-]
Actually, they would probably test one from a whole batch and use that to judge the quality of the entire batch.
Lots of companies use that method cause it's impractical to actually test every single product. especially for consumables and other products that need to be at factory perfect settings.
Lots of companies use that method cause it's impractical to actually test every single product. especially for consumables and other products that need to be at factory perfect settings.
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rockergamer ONLINE (07/28/2015) [-] i've noticed when programming is that when you build off of something buggy
everything else becomes buggy
so when you fix the main buggy bit
everything else that was built around the buggy bit prefix now acts up
so you've practically gotta start from the ground up
everything else becomes buggy
so when you fix the main buggy bit
everything else that was built around the buggy bit prefix now acts up
so you've practically gotta start from the ground up
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mrselfdestruct (07/29/2015) [-] that's why Top Down Methodology is recommended
it wont solve all your problems, but it can certainly mitigate them.
it wont solve all your problems, but it can certainly mitigate them.
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narcissism (07/28/2015) [-] "main buggy bit"
That is if you find it, hidden errors (variable mistakes) and such takes time and has no ground to start from
That is if you find it, hidden errors (variable mistakes) and such takes time and has no ground to start from
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mangaexplain (07/29/2015) [-]
meanwhile currently in college to get into game-testing/QA because i enjoy doing monotonous tasks...
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neokun (08/01/2015) [-] Doesn't have to take years. It could take as long as a single weekend. Depending on the type of game your going for. Alot of successful games out there are pretty simplistic to make. Take flappy bird for example, that took a single weekend. And that guy got 50,000 a week.
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captchakid ONLINE (07/29/2015) [-] Dont give up man.
Im in college getting a degree in CompSci with a certificate for game design. When you do something like this, you have a much higher chance of being recruited into a company that creates games. My goal is Riot.
Im in college getting a degree in CompSci with a certificate for game design. When you do something like this, you have a much higher chance of being recruited into a company that creates games. My goal is Riot.
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gearshift (07/30/2015) [-] Doing a it systems degree with majors in game developoment and multimeda development.
Aiming for any game company, but really a fan of Gearbox and their games, and then theres a illustrious secret society of valve employees...
Since 2k australia is the only largely known company i can get to here, I'll try for them first.
Aiming for any game company, but really a fan of Gearbox and their games, and then theres a illustrious secret society of valve employees...
Since 2k australia is the only largely known company i can get to here, I'll try for them first.
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scozie (07/29/2015) [-]
1) Get computer science degree.
2) Get graphical design degree.
3) Spend a year designing some stuff.
4) Make a portfolio.
5) Go to game companies.
6) Drop off your portfolio.
7) Wait anywhere up to 3 months for a reply.
8) Review offers.
9) Attend interviews.
10) See what you get.
Yeah, you're right, there are a lot of people that just grow up with video games and then think "hey, I wanna make video games, too!" despite not having any qualifications or experience beyond "well, I played them for a while."
Above is what I did to get my job at Ubisoft and, yes, it took about 5 years - but that's what getting the job you want to get takes.
Enjoy it
2) Get graphical design degree.
3) Spend a year designing some stuff.
4) Make a portfolio.
5) Go to game companies.
6) Drop off your portfolio.
7) Wait anywhere up to 3 months for a reply.
8) Review offers.
9) Attend interviews.
10) See what you get.
Yeah, you're right, there are a lot of people that just grow up with video games and then think "hey, I wanna make video games, too!" despite not having any qualifications or experience beyond "well, I played them for a while."
Above is what I did to get my job at Ubisoft and, yes, it took about 5 years - but that's what getting the job you want to get takes.
Enjoy it
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gearshift (07/30/2015) [-] Hey there dood, congrats on getting a dream job.
Currently working on majors for game development and multimedia development with a degree in it systems.
Any tips you can give a first year uni student? Anything i should start preparing now like portfolio projects and stuff?
Currently working on majors for game development and multimedia development with a degree in it systems.
Any tips you can give a first year uni student? Anything i should start preparing now like portfolio projects and stuff?
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scozie (07/30/2015) [-]
Definitely your portfolio. Start straight away and just put anything you think is good in it. Have a physical portfolio to show work-processes and end results and, if you can, have an online one with screenshots and short captions so that your potential employers can just look at that if they want to.
Just spend like 30 minutes a day developing your own skills in anything - do a small project, work on presenting your work, just learn to write, whatever you feel like. The biggest hint I can give you is one that most people don't really like doing because it is kinda difficult, but learning a second language (anything really) almost triples your employability.
I can't really give more specific help than that since I don't really know anything about you
Good luck, though!
Just spend like 30 minutes a day developing your own skills in anything - do a small project, work on presenting your work, just learn to write, whatever you feel like. The biggest hint I can give you is one that most people don't really like doing because it is kinda difficult, but learning a second language (anything really) almost triples your employability.
I can't really give more specific help than that since I don't really know anything about you
Good luck, though!
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gearshift (07/30/2015) [-] Cheers fo the tips.
Ive done a lot of work in C++ with small projects, and with oracle databases which i manage for my uncle's company (dont get paid for it though)
Havent worked with any actual game engines like unity or source that much. Worked with flash though.
Ive done some model work in blender and 3d studio (only recently got 3d studio so still practicing) and can do visualisation artwork pretty well.
The main question is what exactly should i include in the portfolio? Since im not yet sure if i want to go for the aesthetic or code (or both) side of game development, im not sure if i should just chuck everything in or make 2 seperate folios or what. Do companies get pissed if you put too much stuff not directly relevant to the job youre applying for into your folio?
Ive done a lot of work in C++ with small projects, and with oracle databases which i manage for my uncle's company (dont get paid for it though)
Havent worked with any actual game engines like unity or source that much. Worked with flash though.
Ive done some model work in blender and 3d studio (only recently got 3d studio so still practicing) and can do visualisation artwork pretty well.
The main question is what exactly should i include in the portfolio? Since im not yet sure if i want to go for the aesthetic or code (or both) side of game development, im not sure if i should just chuck everything in or make 2 seperate folios or what. Do companies get pissed if you put too much stuff not directly relevant to the job youre applying for into your folio?
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whathaveyoudone (07/28/2015) [-] >game tester
companys dont use those anymore, how else do you explain games being release with a **** ton of bugs
companys dont use those anymore, how else do you explain games being release with a **** ton of bugs
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rampagindragon (07/29/2015) [-] **rampagindragon used "*roll picture*"**
**rampagindragon rolled image** Implying older games didn't also have a ton of bugs despite the programming being trivial compared to what's released today.
**rampagindragon rolled image** Implying older games didn't also have a ton of bugs despite the programming being trivial compared to what's released today.
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fuzzyballs (07/28/2015) [-] it's only because steam enables them to automatically update their games, duh
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anon (07/29/2015) [-]
Bigger companies use random people online as free testers frequently but you then have the problem that the people who sign up are super hardcore fans with no sense of reality.
So often they are more concerned something doesn't look like the source material than if entire parts of the game don't function.
So often they are more concerned something doesn't look like the source material than if entire parts of the game don't function.
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cactaur (07/28/2015) [-] I always feel bad for community managers.
They get **** on for so many things they had little to no involvement in.
They get **** on for so many things they had little to no involvement in.
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grimdareaper (07/29/2015) [-]
Oh, cactaur, you're joining my list of "I mention these people when there's relevant content."
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timmity (07/28/2015) [-] In my case, they get **** for punishing me for something that isn't even against the rules, or in one case, getting demodded and then banned because I spoke up about the owner giving a disliked user admin status... because she had a crush on him.
This actually happened.
This actually happened.
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frankstein (07/28/2015) [-] Aight. HAte when people do that **** . They ruin more then they think.
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grammarofficer (07/28/2015) [-] If he added a comma, it would be correct!
Not factually, though. The twats that do this ***** never think.
Not factually, though. The twats that do this ***** never think.
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rebornpotato (07/29/2015) [-] And meanwhile i'm sitting here studying to be a game modeler and getting ready to have about zero job security with unpaid overtime.
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sphincterface (07/29/2015) [-] 99 little bugs in the code,
99 little bugs.
Take one down,
patch it around.
127 little bugs in the code.
99 little bugs.
Take one down,
patch it around.
127 little bugs in the code.
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karenoniks (07/28/2015) [-] Once when I was working as a programmer for my friend I had one game breaking bug, basically whenever player tried to look for secrets in the final level the system ran out of memory and it crashed, so there was no way to explore the level because going out of the path caused crashes.
Fixing the glitches caused insta crash on launch, so we decided to put an NPC saying that greed will kill you and a monster called The Beast Of Avarice that haunts the player down when he goes out of the main path.
Fixing the glitches caused insta crash on launch, so we decided to put an NPC saying that greed will kill you and a monster called The Beast Of Avarice that haunts the player down when he goes out of the main path.
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securityexplain ONLINE (07/28/2015) [-] Couldn't you just dealocate some of the unused stuff? No clue what real problem is here, I'm genuinely interested.
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karenoniks (07/28/2015) [-] You are right. Well, I was a little nooblet back then, 4 years ago, delocating some of the unused content and deleting all the useless decoration would indeed make the game not heat up your computer when rendering garbage, I didn't really think that through, if I was more experienced then maybe I would do that but it was only my third or fourth game I ever developed.
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whitegamedeveloper (07/28/2015) [-] **whitegamedeveloper used "*roll picture*"**
**whitegamedeveloper rolled image** What it's really like being a programmer.
**whitegamedeveloper rolled image** What it's really like being a programmer.
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fekke (07/28/2015) [-] Are you this guy? www.youtube.com/channel/UCUza7tWMHDQVnGUF00YBTRg
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whitegamedeveloper (07/28/2015) [-]
Yea, after i finish a crypto-currency exchange bot I'll start uploading again.
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awesomedewd (07/28/2015) [-] I don't understand why it should be so hard for a community manager.
Sure, you're getting **** at. But that's your job, if you can't handle that, quit it.
In fact, why did you even get this kind of job?
I'd love to be a community manager.
Sounds like my kind of job.
Sure, you're getting **** at. But that's your job, if you can't handle that, quit it.
In fact, why did you even get this kind of job?
I'd love to be a community manager.
Sounds like my kind of job.
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anon (07/29/2015) [-]
The game was a complete scam to begin with, with them claiming they don't have enough money to add features they advertised the ******* kickstarter with even after they got more money than the kickstarter set.
But Dina was a huge filthy feminist of the worst social media badgering type with all the "Why isn't the main character of your game a woman? Are you sexist?" ******** . She got hired because her "BF" worked there. She banned people in masses because she's extremely irritating and lolsorandom. Then, when gamergate started, she was blocking people on twitter and banning them from the forums of the game they paid to support just for being pro-GG. She finally left the company shortly after she threw a fit and started demanding people pirate the game because she hates them so much.
The fact she lasted so long while failing so dramatically at her job made pretty much everyone who isn't an SJW lose all faith in the project. Now, Mikami's latest kickstarter is failing to make enough money.
Worst of all though, the game just looks bad. Really unimpressive **** .
But Dina was a huge filthy feminist of the worst social media badgering type with all the "Why isn't the main character of your game a woman? Are you sexist?" ******** . She got hired because her "BF" worked there. She banned people in masses because she's extremely irritating and lolsorandom. Then, when gamergate started, she was blocking people on twitter and banning them from the forums of the game they paid to support just for being pro-GG. She finally left the company shortly after she threw a fit and started demanding people pirate the game because she hates them so much.
The fact she lasted so long while failing so dramatically at her job made pretty much everyone who isn't an SJW lose all faith in the project. Now, Mikami's latest kickstarter is failing to make enough money.
Worst of all though, the game just looks bad. Really unimpressive **** .
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epicextreme (07/28/2015) [-] why would anyone think that since they studied art their whole life people must respect their opinion?
