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rakogoki (09/09/2015) [-]
im pretty sure 90% of everyone here would do the same stuff if their country started getting ****** .
everyone starts shutting their borders to you, calling ******** /worthless trash/ **** refugees, dehumanize and make you out to be the villain because the extremists of your country were ********* and ****** your reputation. after losing everything all you want is shelter/food/secutiry/etc, however nobody wants to help you with "free hand outs" because all refugees are lazy and just want to leech, like not a single one of you wants to work a job, supply to your family, and live a normal life.
nobody realizes just how much they have until they lose it all.
everyone starts shutting their borders to you, calling ******** /worthless trash/ **** refugees, dehumanize and make you out to be the villain because the extremists of your country were ********* and ****** your reputation. after losing everything all you want is shelter/food/secutiry/etc, however nobody wants to help you with "free hand outs" because all refugees are lazy and just want to leech, like not a single one of you wants to work a job, supply to your family, and live a normal life.
nobody realizes just how much they have until they lose it all.
Theres a difference between being a refugee and a parasite.
******** , I'd have stayed behind and fought.
I'm no god damned deserter.
I'm no god damned deserter.
I'd be glad to fight for my country.
Those ******* could never pass basic anyways.
I can guarantee a lot of soldiers would have declared war too, and were just waiting for the orders from up top.
Those ******* could never pass basic anyways.
I can guarantee a lot of soldiers would have declared war too, and were just waiting for the orders from up top.
The problem is that you have no other choice than leeching of the society if you're a refugee. You cant find a job if you dont know anybody and you cant start an own buissnes because there is too many regulations here. If they came from a more civilized western country it would work out better.
But if you have lived all your life in some village and slaughtering goats on the streets is a daily custom, its very hard to open up a resturant here since even selling hotdogs on the streets is illegal.
But if you have lived all your life in some village and slaughtering goats on the streets is a daily custom, its very hard to open up a resturant here since even selling hotdogs on the streets is illegal.
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anon (09/10/2015) [-]
1) So you're saying that you'd leave your country if there was a civil war instead of either fighting, or finding a safe area within your country? You really are a bitch.
2) You don't speak for 90% of the people here. You only speak for the losers.
3) If I "needed" asylum, then I'd only expect to get it temporarily. I would expect another country to make me or my children citizens just because my country was currently screwed up. I'd go back as soon as possible.
3) If I moved to another country I'd try to secure a job first, I'd try to make housing plans for myself first, I'd learn the local language, laws and customs, I'd respect the local language, laws and customs, and If I became a citizen, then that's what I'd be. I wouldn't identify with my "home country" anymore.
2) You don't speak for 90% of the people here. You only speak for the losers.
3) If I "needed" asylum, then I'd only expect to get it temporarily. I would expect another country to make me or my children citizens just because my country was currently screwed up. I'd go back as soon as possible.
3) If I moved to another country I'd try to secure a job first, I'd try to make housing plans for myself first, I'd learn the local language, laws and customs, I'd respect the local language, laws and customs, and If I became a citizen, then that's what I'd be. I wouldn't identify with my "home country" anymore.
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anon (09/10/2015) [-]
1) a stalemate civil war isn't worth dying in. You have no wife or children you want to protect. Only a moron would prioritize fighting in the middle east higher than their family.
2) what do you mean? He just pointed out that you probably would do the same as the refugees. Counter argument, or you are the loser yourself.
3) Okay, this just proof you don't know the asylum system and you did not read the announcement i the paper. Nowhere does it say, that all asylum seekers want permanent residence. But they don't choose DK, because chances are much higher that their application will be rejected and they will be sent back to Syria. It only makes sense to go further north.
4) Nice dreams and all, but when you're a refugee, it's not that easy getting a job. It's not that easy in general to get a job, not when there are more workers than workplaces. If it is so easy to learn the language, adopt the costumes and forget about your past, I'll challenge you to a month in Japan. Do you honestly thing you'll get anywhere within that time frame?
2) what do you mean? He just pointed out that you probably would do the same as the refugees. Counter argument, or you are the loser yourself.
3) Okay, this just proof you don't know the asylum system and you did not read the announcement i the paper. Nowhere does it say, that all asylum seekers want permanent residence. But they don't choose DK, because chances are much higher that their application will be rejected and they will be sent back to Syria. It only makes sense to go further north.
4) Nice dreams and all, but when you're a refugee, it's not that easy getting a job. It's not that easy in general to get a job, not when there are more workers than workplaces. If it is so easy to learn the language, adopt the costumes and forget about your past, I'll challenge you to a month in Japan. Do you honestly thing you'll get anywhere within that time frame?
Our countries aren't ****** because our people are good and our law and order are strong. Our militaries are strong and our civilization is well maintained. About half of those people commit or condone violent terrorist organizations, and adhere to values
counter to western civilization. Any punishment they receive is one they've brought upon themselves.
If they were truly good people, and the extremists so minor a portion, the extremists wouldn't be able to take over like this.
counter to western civilization. Any punishment they receive is one they've brought upon themselves.
If they were truly good people, and the extremists so minor a portion, the extremists wouldn't be able to take over like this.
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anon (09/10/2015) [-]
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA wow the extremists have taken over, half of them commit or condone terrorism, our military is strong our civilization superior. You sound like youve been watching too many nazi videos on youtube. Stop pretending like you know whats best, these are real people who are scared.
what is a dictatorship and indoctrination? learn geopolitics faget
They aren't just escaping from the war and trying to build a new life, if they were they'd stop somewhere closer. Problem is, they're being leechy assholes and only wanna go to rich countries while they leave an ocean of trash behind them. I mostly hate them though. They're too scared to fight for their country when the whole thing is on the line. Look back at the stats in the infograph, they aren't ass pulls. These are almost all military aged men that don't have the balls to fight. It's much easy to **** kids in England or kill women in Sweden.
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anon (09/10/2015) [-]
Hypothetical don't matter when real and significant effects are already reverberating because of cultural differences.
It's not my fault that their country is ****** up. It's their fault as a collective for going along with the incredibly messed up society they have for so long.
People seem to forget how much Western Europeans of the past sacrificed in order to progress society to what we have today where medical care is almost universal and there are very few people worrying about whether or not they're going to live to see the next day.
Meanwhile 400 years later the Middle East hasn't even had a ******* period of Enlightenment. You can say "BUT MUH WESTERN IMPERIALISM" all you want, it doesn't matter. You know who else had to deal with Western Imperialism?
WESTERN ******* EUROPE. THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA. SOUTH EAST ASIA. EVEN IF SOME OF THOSE COUNTRIES HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS AT LEAST THEIR CULTURAL PHILOSOPHIES HAVE MADE IT PAST THE ******* DARK AGES.
You can empathize with these people all you want, it doesn't change the fact that their society is ****** up to the point where they cannot currently be integrated into Western Society without severe consequences. These are people who have been raised under a COMPLETELY different philosophy that is in CONFLICT with Western Society. You can't change that overnight because muh feels. That's not how humans work. That's something that came AFTER the Age of Enlightenment.
Do I feel sorry for them? Sure. Do I like the fact that they're suffering? Not in the slightest, the opposite in fact. But that doesn't mean that their life is suddenly my responsibility. They're people too. They can take responsibility for themselves. And until they can adopt a moral standard aligned with similar values to myself and my company, I'd rather not associate with them.
It's not my fault that their country is ****** up. It's their fault as a collective for going along with the incredibly messed up society they have for so long.
People seem to forget how much Western Europeans of the past sacrificed in order to progress society to what we have today where medical care is almost universal and there are very few people worrying about whether or not they're going to live to see the next day.
Meanwhile 400 years later the Middle East hasn't even had a ******* period of Enlightenment. You can say "BUT MUH WESTERN IMPERIALISM" all you want, it doesn't matter. You know who else had to deal with Western Imperialism?
WESTERN ******* EUROPE. THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA. SOUTH EAST ASIA. EVEN IF SOME OF THOSE COUNTRIES HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS AT LEAST THEIR CULTURAL PHILOSOPHIES HAVE MADE IT PAST THE ******* DARK AGES.
You can empathize with these people all you want, it doesn't change the fact that their society is ****** up to the point where they cannot currently be integrated into Western Society without severe consequences. These are people who have been raised under a COMPLETELY different philosophy that is in CONFLICT with Western Society. You can't change that overnight because muh feels. That's not how humans work. That's something that came AFTER the Age of Enlightenment.
Do I feel sorry for them? Sure. Do I like the fact that they're suffering? Not in the slightest, the opposite in fact. But that doesn't mean that their life is suddenly my responsibility. They're people too. They can take responsibility for themselves. And until they can adopt a moral standard aligned with similar values to myself and my company, I'd rather not associate with them.
I wouldn't try to actively convert the culture of the country whom is housing me. I wouldn't try to rape their women and children. I wouldn't just sit around and do nothing, living off government welfare checks. **** these economic migrants.
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anon (09/10/2015) [-]
No no no. There is no excuse for the way they are acting. In my childhood, my family knew homelessness. When someone offered us a little bit of money did my mom say "that's not enough!", no. She said "thanks." I get needing food and shelter but you don't get to ******* riot and attack officers because they don't give you" enough".
"Hurr durr they don't like me because 90% of my fellow immigrants are being dicks and rioting, I should be a dick and riot because they won't let me in."
I don't care if they want to go to rich European countries, but they can't destroy that country because they don't have enough for all of them.
"Hurr durr they don't like me because 90% of my fellow immigrants are being dicks and rioting, I should be a dick and riot because they won't let me in."
I don't care if they want to go to rich European countries, but they can't destroy that country because they don't have enough for all of them.
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kaboomz (09/10/2015) [-]
I WOULD NEVER PUT MY KIDS ON A CARDBOARD RAFT TO CROSS THE ******* OCEAN TO GET TO A COUNTRY THAT INVADED MY OWN IN SEARCH OF INVISIBLE NUCLEAR WEAPONS KILLING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENTS BY MISTAKE IN THE PROCESS AND THEN WALK 328917694306 KM TO THE RICHEST COUNTRIES IN THERE WHILE BEGGING AND STEALING FROM ANYONE I CAN FIND
i would go straight to turkey or israel
probably israel
i would go straight to turkey or israel
probably israel
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anon (09/10/2015) [-]
If only they were leeches. They aren't just taking far more "shelter/food/security" than a person actually needs, they are also then raping, killing and converting the hand that is feeding them. The fact that they are pouring into a single country, and one that is hard to get to at that, makes it very obvious. Not all refugees are criminals, but the ones going into Sweden of all places most definitely are.
Sweden is being ****** really hard right now. How long do you think it will be before, as you claim, 90% of the people in Sweden start migrating out of their **** hole? Because that is where they are headed. And I agree with your prediction that nobody is going to want to open their borders to these extremist lefties. But to then repeat the same mistake with this inevitable new wave of refugees is retarded at best.
Sweden is being ****** really hard right now. How long do you think it will be before, as you claim, 90% of the people in Sweden start migrating out of their **** hole? Because that is where they are headed. And I agree with your prediction that nobody is going to want to open their borders to these extremist lefties. But to then repeat the same mistake with this inevitable new wave of refugees is retarded at best.
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hansdieterli (09/09/2015) [-]
Holy **** , I am sure glad to see atleast one person here who isn´t outright racist and realizes what the situation really must feel like. I like you. Youre a good guy.
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hansdieterli (09/09/2015) [-]
Yeah ...sure there are black sheep, but what some people are saying here or elsewhere is absolutely disgusting.
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anon (09/10/2015) [-]
Have you even been listening to what the media has been saying about the refugees?
If anybody's been affected by the media it's white apologists who blind themselves to what in reality is a severe cultural disconnection in order to look more progressive and nice. This is a legitimate issue with legitimate concerns. Marking off those legitimate concerns as racist is unreasonable and just plain backwards thinking. And no, I'm not talking about the people calling for mass murder and lynching, I'm talking about people who are arguing for closed borders or something of the sort.
If anybody's been affected by the media it's white apologists who blind themselves to what in reality is a severe cultural disconnection in order to look more progressive and nice. This is a legitimate issue with legitimate concerns. Marking off those legitimate concerns as racist is unreasonable and just plain backwards thinking. And no, I'm not talking about the people calling for mass murder and lynching, I'm talking about people who are arguing for closed borders or something of the sort.