For all you lazy fucks. Lose some weight Get muscles. do TFA 'i? optics For all you lazy fucks Lose some weight Get muscles do TFA 'i? optics
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#9 - kingdaniel
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#31 - nickdaswagger
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#34 to #31 - ubercookieboy
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User avatar #1 - ajrin
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no
User avatar #2 to #1 - thewitchking [OP]
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fine stay fat
User avatar #8 to #2 - revios
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Wow okay mr.muscle
User avatar #3 to #2 - ajrin
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im not fat tho
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thewitchking: 0
#5 to #3 - thewitchking [OP]
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you win this time
you win this time
#7 to #5 - ajrin
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#17 - jtblip
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Everybody who favorited this post: "Yeah, yeah I'm going to do this, it's time to change my life."
User avatar #18 to #17 - jtblip
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Then I realized, I favorited it..
User avatar #15 - tombobbusama
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guys, I recently found out that the girl I like prefers skinny guys. Will this help me look muscly or just less fat?
#89 to #15 - anon id: 9f421196
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the only answer you need for now, is that this is an irrelevant question. Doing exercise of any sort is going to make your body look bigger

you will not become arnold overnight. in fact, you will not put on a great deal of muscle at all unless you eat a lot AND work really goddamn hard.
User avatar #32 to #15 - Tazdingo
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If you eat more energy than you spend, you'll gain weight.
If you eat less energy than you spend, you'll lose weight.
- Physics 101

If you work out while slightly gaining weight, you will start getting muscly and big, but it'll take you a while to get there.
If you work out while slightly losing weight you'll get some muscles and also lose fat so they show, a slim and fit look.

If you work out while significantly gaining weight, you will build more muscle but it won't show, assuming it doesn't at this moment.

If you work out while significantly losing weight, your body will burn a lot of fat as well as cannibalize muscle to try to keep you alive.

Since it's mostly bodyweight, his routine will leave you mostly less fat and in good condition, but you won't be seeing a lot of muscle anytime soon, however you might wanna look up on how to add additional excercises for shoulders, calves and arms, so your body doesn't grow disproportionately.

Oh and please don't go on any diet below 1600 calories unless you're an anorexic 16 year old girl weighing 40kg with a desire to lose weight. If you're a man and want to look fit, work out more, don't eat less. Going on a diet is just gonna turn you from a tub of lard into a miniature tub of lard, if you want to actually look good you need to work out.
User avatar #38 to #32 - tombobbusama
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awesome, thanks
User avatar #19 to #15 - jtblip
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It'll make you tone if anything.
#20 to #15 - ninjathomas
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If you want to get really fit heres the awnser to get skinny and Ottermode ok FIRST
#I if you have a smartphone download an app called my fitness pal and then make an account and puit your info and how much weight you want to lose
#Eat about 1400 calories a day if you want to get fit fast you can lose up to 5 pounds a week if your working out and eating smart
#3 Eat alot of protein Etc... Chicken like buffalo or BBq and red meats and lots of tuna and fish blah blah
#4 It will take about 3 months but you will get amazing results just by doing this because i did
# Enjoy your new body
PIc related its Ottermode
and have fun too! -tom
User avatar #24 to #20 - dederplaol
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eating 1400cals a day won't just burn fat, it will burn muscle too
User avatar #37 to #24 - tombobbusama
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holy **** you can do that?
User avatar #88 to #37 - dederplaol
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of course you can, it's like Tazdingo said
your body always chooses to burn what is needed to keep your organs running
my body burns 1400-1600cals a day if I just sit down and do nothing, it's the base amount that my body need to function correctly. So basically I need more than 2000cals if I burn 300 a day, I'll get fatter but I also get more muscle, that's what bulking is.
if I go below 1500 I start feeling slow after a few weeks and it pretty much defeats the purpose of working out since you do it to get healthier
eat until you get full, keep the candy down
work out and don't break the habit once you get it also rest a lot
never do GOMAD (Gallon Of Milk A Day, it's what they preach at /fit/.. unless you juice and work out constantly and breathe muscle tissue you will get obese, scratch that: you'll get fat either way)


It's really not that hard, unless you have an obese way of eating and eat like 4000+ cals a day
don't cut down on fat, cut down on carbs
because the body burns what you have a surplus of, so eating less fat is counterproductive while eating less carbs helps your body burn the fat faster
if you notice that you gain weight(jnot the good kind) you should take a glance over what you've been eating lately and cut down on the obvious bad stuff
User avatar #41 to #37 - Tazdingo
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When your body starts running low on amino-acids which are needed to replace tissue in your organs, it starts disassembling the muscles it built in order to keep your vital organs running. If you continue with the diet, the body tries to save itself from starvation by going into what you might call an energy saving mode where it slows down the metabolism in order to conserve the fat for as long as possible, since it doesn't know how long you might go on without an adequate amount of food.

This happens whenever you have a large calorie deficit.
#45 to #41 - anon id: a3222dde
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"This happens whenever you have a large calorie deficit and fall under 5% bodyfat"

ftfy

Starvation mode is usually largely a non-factor in diets, and if you're overweight you're not going to hit it on 1400 calories a day.
#25 - pkmnexplain
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I can't even remember where I am when I wake up and you expect me to do this 3 times?
I can't even remember where I am when I wake up and you expect me to do this 3 times?
#11 - blacktemplar
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I prefer this one.
User avatar #33 - xgreenmaidenx
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I only do 10 push-ups.

But not because I wanna get strong or ripped, but because I don't wanna turn into a fatty
User avatar #36 to #33 - auryn
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Actually strength exercises will more likely add weight, well muscle that is, but you'll hardly burn any fat.

If you want to burn fat you should do cardiovascular exercises.
User avatar #57 to #36 - Funnel
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Its humanly impossible to gain muscle mass without gaining fat tho.
User avatar #58 to #57 - auryn
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You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Muscle is build from the amino acids derived from proteins, bodyfat is build by an excess of carbs and dietary fats.
Although it's not the most efficient way, you could very well build some muscle while also burning bodyfat or stay at the same percentage bodyfat.

It all depends on your work-out routine and diet.

In practice however it's more efficient to be contantly on a slight caloric surplus with your body having acces to all the essential nutrients it needs for optimal growth.
User avatar #64 to #58 - Retardio
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Missinformation much? Your body needs 2-3 times as much carbs as it does protein to build muscle, protein does pretty much nothing without a good dose of carbs. And you talk as if protein doesn't turn into fat, well it does, protein breaks down into glucose(sugar) and is stored in your fat cells, that is unless you have just worked out and have excess calories in your diet(some of it will still turn into fat tho).

Thus to gain muscle, you must be willing to gain fat.
The **** you talk of is just misinformation used by salesmen to sell bad products to lazy and stupid people who think they can get a six-pack while watching TV munching on junk and sipping on soda, while everyone who is actually getting results are also packing on fat that they later shred off, tho it seems like more work, its the only way that does work.
User avatar #71 to #64 - auryn
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A valid point regarding the protein break down.

But It's perfectably possible to find that equilibirum where you eat just enough for muscle gain, but not gain any bodyfat, while burning some bodyfat during the exercises in the process.

Although the rate of both muscle gain and bodyfat loss would be pretty slow.

When I did bodybuilding for a couple of years I used to bulk too, simply because it's more efficient.



User avatar #73 to #71 - Retardio
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What you are talking about is not muscle gain, its strength gain. Not the same thing.

Doing the same thing over and over will make your body better at it, that includes lifting, it enables you to lift heavier but it does not equal getting bigger. Just cause you lifted heavier and retained more water than before you exercised does not mean you built muscle.
User avatar #79 to #73 - auryn
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I'm definitely talking about muscle mass gain.

You don't necessarily need that many carbs in the range which can lead to storage of bodyfat for a sufficient protein synthesis that would lead to muscular hypertrophy.
In fact, although carbs might be more benificial for a better training (higher energy levels) a quicker repair (due to glycogen and spiking insulin) they are not necessarily needed for protein synthesis at all.

There are plenty of studies on this.
User avatar #62 to #58 - Funnel
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Except the human body refuses to use protein to build muscle unless you're on a calorie surplus.

That is why everyone who gain muscle also gain fat. You can't skew your macros to create loopholes in physics, if your way worked everyone would be doing it, but there has been 0 proven cases of it worldwide so far.

You can however gain strength on a calorie deficit or on calorie maintenance, but not muscle mass, this by the help of the nervous system, not magic loopholes.
User avatar #63 to #62 - auryn
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It's not a simple as just a caloric surplus or deficit. You cannot simplify it like that, a lot of other factors are into play. It's not a loophole, you're taking a lot of things out of account.

It's about eating the right amount of the right things at the right time.

"but there has been 0 proven cases of it worldwide so far." Did you just make that up?
#72 to #63 - tipsyjenny
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Show me a legit source of how to gain muscle without a calorie surplus without them trying to sell me something.

I will show you boobs.
I won't show boobs. But I will give you a thumb, fresh out of the oven
User avatar #86 to #72 - auryn
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First ask yourself the question on the exact reason why you think you necesarily need a calorie surplus.

Could you please elaborate, maybe I can help you understand or get some misconceptions out of the way?
User avatar #40 to #36 - xgreenmaidenx
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And what is "cardiovascular exercises"
User avatar #44 to #40 - auryn
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Generally, light-to-moderate intensity activities that are sufficiently supported by aerobic metabolism can be performed for extended periods of time.
For instance: running/jogging, swimming, cycling, and walking.

Although you could do it with bodyweight exercises or weights too, but the emphasis should be on extended periods of time. Basically anything that involves stamina / endurance.

The main difference is with strength based exercises you deplete the glycogen in the muscle for fuel, if you only do short, low repetion count sets you'll hardly burn any fat.
With cardiovascular exercises your body starts to burn bodyfat as it's energy source.
#65 to #44 - brainbruce
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Actually, many short burst of high intensity exercises is proven to be the best at burning fat. Cardio is an outdated idea and has been disproven of being the best fat loss exercise.
User avatar #67 to #65 - auryn
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Yes, that's called interval training and it can be applied to any cardiovascular exercise.
#74 to #67 - anon id: 89fae60a
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you can place every exercise known to man under the genre cardio if you want, cause all exercises require blood..

but when people say cardio exercise they refer to low intensity workouts and you know it, what #44 is talking about is HIIT(High Intensity Interval Training), not "low intensity interval training"
#75 to #74 - anon id: 89fae60a
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i mean #65 but whatever, brainbruce
User avatar #49 to #33 - starJOCK
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hey mate,
dont listen to auryn. strength training is a great way to stay in shape and lose weight. the added benefit of of strength training is you will still be burning calories hours after a workout. dont just do a cardiovascular program.
you will lose weight, this is true, but you will also lose muscle mass and still look kinda flabby. a balance of both is what you want. never favor one over the other unless it is specific to something you are training for
#80 to #49 - tipsyjenny
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^this

Start up by doing a low intensity cardio for a short while to warm up, then hit the weights, then do cardio(preferably high intensity in short burts.

Not only is resistance training healthy and make you more attractive, it is also effective at burning consumed carbs and the glucose in your body and your body will never burn fat before glucose or available carbs.
User avatar #50 to #49 - auryn
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Ofcourse he could do both. Actually I highly reccomend it.

But he clearly states he doesn't want to get strong or ripped, and bodyfat was his main concern.
With this in mind, clearly cardiovascular exercises is exactly what he's looking for.

And indeed strength training could also be a relatively good way to stay in shape or lose weight, that is if you do proper workout routines, but the truth is doing a few sets of 10 pushups will virtually have no influence at all on him turning into a fatty or not and will hardly burn any calories at all.
User avatar #55 to #33 - Funnel
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1 pushup for a normal person (i.e not a heavy bodybuilder or a whale) burns about half a calorie, that means you burn extra 5 calories a day with your exercise routine.

In other words, your exercise routine is so small it would be impossible for a human to notice a change in your body if you stopped working out, this also includes yourself.
User avatar #23 - dederplaol
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"do this routine 3 times" more like 6 times
l2workout properly..
User avatar #10 - demonchain
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Sorry, I'm already ripped enough.