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anon (01/13/2016) [-]
British farmers hardly make a profit, just like super-banks put an end to smaller local banks, the same thing's happening to small farms, big farm companies buy up all the land and such, government subsidies don't really help. Small farmers make more money but just basically renting their own land to the super farms
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Jowi (22 hours ago) [-]
I don't know if you have any evidence to back these claims Anon but I live in rural Wales and have lived in similar areas of Scotland, England and Ireland and I have no experience of what you're saying.
"Super farms" make up a very small % of agricultural land use in Britain because any large farming company would probably have an intensive farming based business eg battery farms, poly tunnels etc to get a higher yield from small areas of land.
Where I've lived almost all of the farms are landholdings that have been passed down by the generations and a small number of them are tenanted farms (tenanted farms could be what you mean where landowners of large estates for example the Queen with her Duchy of Lancaster rent out portions of their lands for farmers to work a couple of acres as some of these estates cover hundreds of miles.
On top of this subsidies make a MASSIVE difference to farms in the UK. Currently UK farms recieve about £3bn in subsidies overall, not only are they given money to mechanise their farms by the EU but they are paid to produce certain crops/meat/dairy and then allowed to sell those crops/meat/dairy and keep the profits. They are allowed to grow crops based on a dynamic pricing system where the EU sets a certain price for whatever and then everyone grows whatever will make the most from said susidies, said crop is over-produced and leads to huge EU reserve sheds of rotting wheat like we've seen in the.
I know there is an argument that the system is at fault which is totally true but farmers who makes **** tons from this, but for the tax payer who indirectly pays for this. Hell farmers even make money from allow their fields to turn back into "Wildlife sanctuaries" where all they have to is leave the field untouched. Small farms are literally kept afloat by these wasteful subsidies
Farmers also don't have to adhere to certain building practices and are looked on favourably in for planning permission (certain buildings they can construct can be done without any permission at all), farmers abuse the rights of way they have on their land by blocking them because in their eyes the lands is theirs. Not to mention the power that the National Farmers Union has as a lobbying force allowing them to force on us the Badger Cull or basically undermining the fox hunting laws
Not to mention agricultural land is increasing in prices faster than land in Mayfair in London. These **** small farmers who have barely added anything of value to the economy and have been huge drains of money are then allowed to sell the land that we have helped them keep and the machinery we gave them with a bow ribbon wrapped around it as well and keep all of the profits.
TL;DR I think the EU serves a great purpose but the subsidies practices are ******* ridiculous and painting the small farmer as a peasant who doesn't do well with his lot in life is ridiculous. They're paid to do very little and then are paid again for it.
Any business that is as unsuccessful and as wasteful as agriculture is in the UK would have been bought out or bankrupted years ago and would have been replaced by a bigger form of the same thing. Why should farms be any different?
"Super farms" make up a very small % of agricultural land use in Britain because any large farming company would probably have an intensive farming based business eg battery farms, poly tunnels etc to get a higher yield from small areas of land.
Where I've lived almost all of the farms are landholdings that have been passed down by the generations and a small number of them are tenanted farms (tenanted farms could be what you mean where landowners of large estates for example the Queen with her Duchy of Lancaster rent out portions of their lands for farmers to work a couple of acres as some of these estates cover hundreds of miles.
On top of this subsidies make a MASSIVE difference to farms in the UK. Currently UK farms recieve about £3bn in subsidies overall, not only are they given money to mechanise their farms by the EU but they are paid to produce certain crops/meat/dairy and then allowed to sell those crops/meat/dairy and keep the profits. They are allowed to grow crops based on a dynamic pricing system where the EU sets a certain price for whatever and then everyone grows whatever will make the most from said susidies, said crop is over-produced and leads to huge EU reserve sheds of rotting wheat like we've seen in the.
I know there is an argument that the system is at fault which is totally true but farmers who makes **** tons from this, but for the tax payer who indirectly pays for this. Hell farmers even make money from allow their fields to turn back into "Wildlife sanctuaries" where all they have to is leave the field untouched. Small farms are literally kept afloat by these wasteful subsidies
Farmers also don't have to adhere to certain building practices and are looked on favourably in for planning permission (certain buildings they can construct can be done without any permission at all), farmers abuse the rights of way they have on their land by blocking them because in their eyes the lands is theirs. Not to mention the power that the National Farmers Union has as a lobbying force allowing them to force on us the Badger Cull or basically undermining the fox hunting laws
Not to mention agricultural land is increasing in prices faster than land in Mayfair in London. These **** small farmers who have barely added anything of value to the economy and have been huge drains of money are then allowed to sell the land that we have helped them keep and the machinery we gave them with a bow ribbon wrapped around it as well and keep all of the profits.
TL;DR I think the EU serves a great purpose but the subsidies practices are ******* ridiculous and painting the small farmer as a peasant who doesn't do well with his lot in life is ridiculous. They're paid to do very little and then are paid again for it.
Any business that is as unsuccessful and as wasteful as agriculture is in the UK would have been bought out or bankrupted years ago and would have been replaced by a bigger form of the same thing. Why should farms be any different?
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deathstare (01/13/2016) [-] It's extremely hard work, but it guarantees your families survival in the event of a food shortage. The government never starves farmers first.
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obesehobbo (01/12/2016) [-]
bubbles face when he finds out farming makes more money than selling hash
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xdiabolicx ONLINE (01/12/2016) [-] When the world runs low on farmers, show the Department of Agriculture this video.
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itskennyandjosh ONLINE (01/13/2016) [-] I heard you only make a little bit from farming because of all of the expenses though
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Dropkicksxxx (01/13/2016) [-] Right you are, not only equipment but you have personnel, maintenance on equipment, and a lot of farmers are having to buy seed every year due to patents on plants, then you have insurance to hire employees, and the outstanding property taxes. There are some farmers I've worked for though that are pretty well to do.
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mattdoggy (01/13/2016) [-] True, it's hard for small family owned farms to compete anymore these days.
For people farming you are kind of at the mercy of the demand at the end of your season and an available market. What could net you huge cash one year might be a bust crop next year when everyone is growing it. The best small farmers can hope for now is to get government aid and get paid to not grow things.
For ranchers their livestock can be difficult to maintain with the equipment and care needed to operate a legal and proper farm. Many ranchers have to take out large loans to afford the equipment and get stuck in debt forever. Also a single bad season can result in fewer funds or worse livestock being distributed to you so there's even lower chances for recovering for better days.
Don't get me wrong, you can get rich as a farmer or rancher. My family just got rid of our whole herd and with it were able to get a beach house and a new boat. Every farmer knows though that you don't get into farming for the money.
For people farming you are kind of at the mercy of the demand at the end of your season and an available market. What could net you huge cash one year might be a bust crop next year when everyone is growing it. The best small farmers can hope for now is to get government aid and get paid to not grow things.
For ranchers their livestock can be difficult to maintain with the equipment and care needed to operate a legal and proper farm. Many ranchers have to take out large loans to afford the equipment and get stuck in debt forever. Also a single bad season can result in fewer funds or worse livestock being distributed to you so there's even lower chances for recovering for better days.
Don't get me wrong, you can get rich as a farmer or rancher. My family just got rid of our whole herd and with it were able to get a beach house and a new boat. Every farmer knows though that you don't get into farming for the money.
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jasperthefennec (01/13/2016) [-]
You heard right, furfaggot.
All their money is generally tied up in equipment.
All their money is generally tied up in equipment.
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europe (01/13/2016) [-] Roosters tho
For almost half a year, my twat of a neighbour had one
If a rooster screaming at the top of its lungs at 5AM in the morning right next to your window won't wake you, I don't know what will
Not that it matter whether it did wake you or not tho
He'd do it again an hour or two later
and then again
For almost half a year, my twat of a neighbour had one
If a rooster screaming at the top of its lungs at 5AM in the morning right next to your window won't wake you, I don't know what will
Not that it matter whether it did wake you or not tho
He'd do it again an hour or two later
and then again
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smartythechicken ONLINE (01/13/2016) [-] "You see that?"
"they're MADE out of CHICKEN!"
"Eggs come outta they asses"
"they're MADE out of CHICKEN!"
"Eggs come outta they asses"
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Crazywarriorman (01/13/2016) [-] I used to work construction and the work was mainly agricultural. I built barns, poured **** pits, remodeled old barns, etc. With that being said I dealt with tons of farmers and I can say without a doubt they are some of the hardest working people out there. These guys have no time to waste and time is money to them. Sitting around is not tolerated and their financial situation isn't as grim as you may think. At least with the ones I work at, they seem to do just fine. This time last year we built a close-to-million dollar barn. They make a serious paycheck, but most of it goes right back into the farm.
Pic related.
Pic related.
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heartbleed ONLINE (01/13/2016) [-] Oh yeah, farmers make a **** ton, and they need to, to afford all that land they're sitting on...
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dontshoot (01/13/2016) [-] I want to make a million dollars farming. Quick some one loan me 2 million
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mondominiman (01/13/2016) [-] Not all roosters crow at 5 am. We have one that does it at midnight - 3am. We think it's retarded
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failtolawl ONLINE (01/13/2016) [-] that ******* nose tap cracks me up everytime. Is that some irish gesture or did this guy just make that up?
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failtolawl ONLINE (01/13/2016) [-] and by Irish I mean quite possibly anybody in the British Isles.
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brothergrimm ONLINE (01/13/2016) [-] Well i know touching your nose and pointing at someone is the Charades sign for "correct"........ idk about this though
