It's american, so what is a flag? For those of you not in america most if not every classroom has a flag in it (mine had the american and state flag) and every single morning all of the boys and girls start chanting ritualistically saying both the american and state pledge with out hands over our heart looking at the flag. It's creepy as hell when you think about it
Dirty unpatriotic European here wondering if I own the flag of my country at all? I reminder it being blue..-ish? that's ****** up tho, being happy about the country you live in is one thing
the words are also super uncomfortable.
"i pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the united states of america, and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under god, for liberty and justice for all"
that's off the top of my head and i haven't said it in over 11 years. private schools don't do it.
Actually, it's, "I Pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the United States of America, and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under god, indevisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Pretty close though. Haven't said it in a long time myself.
For those of you who don't know, it's not out of patriotism that kids say it every morning at school. It's required.
>>#22, Connecticut does that too. At least, the American flag - I've never seen the state flag hanging in a classroom. **** , I don't even know if Connecticut has a state pledge.
The only part that's optional is the moment of silence because it's for prayer and there are non religious people. The pledges are "optional" in you can not say them but you can also get screamed at for not saying them.
Yes, yes it is optional. If you had wanted to, you could've refused to say the pledge and there's jack **** they could've done about it. Don't start calling it a creepy ritual when you didn't have the balls to say no to your teachers.
It's optional like choosing to not wear nice smelling clothes is optional. If you don't do it, (No-one should do it anyway, it's creepy indoctrination and one of the 14 signs of fascism www.ellensplace.net/fascism.html ) people think you're weird.
At my school we were all British, and we had something similar because it was a catholic school and if you refused to pray at the start of every class, like I did, which was well within our right, we'd get teachers angrily telling us to pray, and you'd get weird looks.
i cant speak for anyone else but we never did in norway, and when i first saw an american class do the pledge it really freaked me out, it looked like the firebender schools i had just watched avatar tlab
I 100% agree with you on the "creepy" part. One day I thought about this whole topic myself and wondered why the **** are kids forced to do such a thing. I graduated high school some 8~ years ago but we still had to do it back then. In fact, the principal's office would do it and the whole school would join in every day. And it felt like, I don't know, a very "fascist" thing to make kids and teenagers do. And you know who else was forced to salute and praise the flag? The nazis.
< In fact you know up until WWII kids and society basically used the "bellamy salute" to the US flag. Look familiar?
You see, if that flag represents what they say it represents, we shouldn't have to say a pledge, period. You know what another ****** up thing in this country is while we are at it? Mandatory jury duty. "Hey, you're free, but every four years we want you to come to a courthouse to be interrogated in front of a judge and a lawyer's where we ask about your background history and past run ins with the law and then force you to be a juror for an unspecified amount of time."