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hongkonglongdong (10/30/2015) [-] 
I get the joke, but I have raging autismo so:
America thinks about Europe a whole lot. The EU alone is a major power with the world's largest GDP, and Russia is making big gainz too. How often do you hear about Russia-America tensions? Or dealings between Germany and the US? I mean, when you take a look at the top ten countries by GDP...five of them are European.
America thinks about Europe a whole lot. The EU alone is a major power with the world's largest GDP, and Russia is making big gainz too. How often do you hear about Russia-America tensions? Or dealings between Germany and the US? I mean, when you take a look at the top ten countries by GDP...five of them are European.
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mistercookie ONLINE (10/31/2015) [-] It's pretty funny how people get so mad at each other. In the outernet, most people from europ don't care about america and vice versa. Except when a country does something internationally significant, then i'ts mentioned a lot in media. USA has been world police for a few years so they show up all the time.
In my experience, more people from the US think Europeans are exotic or interesting than vice versa.
In my experience, more people from the US think Europeans are exotic or interesting than vice versa.
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thegamegestapo (10/30/2015) [-] > America
> Culture
Buddy, pepperoni pizza and the phrase "I'm walkin' here" do not constitute culture.
> Culture
Buddy, pepperoni pizza and the phrase "I'm walkin' here" do not constitute culture.
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hankhillofthe (10/31/2015) [-] I really don't know why people say that. Even as a joke it's really ridiculous.
The things we've done for every form of media - music, radio, tv, movies, hell even games, are by far some of the most significant in history. Other countries are pretty good contenders as far as writing and especially art go, but for any of the stuff that was pretty much invented since the US was formed, we were on top.
And even though consumerism isn't the greatest culture to have, it is a culture. It's a part of American history. We love our advertisements. You know how much people pay for pieces of advertisement from 10's or even over 100 years ago? And a few generations of commercials all trying to be more interesting and make you want the product more than the other. Not something I'd personally say I'm proud of, but it is regardless, culture.
And for ****** sake, we inspired the world. Our idea of government was radically new, perhaps we weren't the first to think of it, but we were the first to get it up and running on such a large scale. Norway is one of the happiest countries on Earth right now, and you know what Norway did? They practically copied our constitution top to bottom. Our idea of politics isn't just part of our culture, it's one of the most influential things that any country has done in recent history. It changed the world.
We made computers, AND we made the internet. Which are both now a GLOBAL culture, largely influenced by us.
Not to mention the countless scientific achievements we've made, a lot of which related to our advancements in Astrophysics, Quantum Physics, Medicine, and everyone's favorite, Plastics.
The fact of the matter is, America has such a huge, wide, and influential culture, that it's hard to even notice, because it's so prevalent.
So I don't get it. If it's a trolling tactic then I can understand, but to say that "America has no culture" is like saying that steak has no protein.
The things we've done for every form of media - music, radio, tv, movies, hell even games, are by far some of the most significant in history. Other countries are pretty good contenders as far as writing and especially art go, but for any of the stuff that was pretty much invented since the US was formed, we were on top.
And even though consumerism isn't the greatest culture to have, it is a culture. It's a part of American history. We love our advertisements. You know how much people pay for pieces of advertisement from 10's or even over 100 years ago? And a few generations of commercials all trying to be more interesting and make you want the product more than the other. Not something I'd personally say I'm proud of, but it is regardless, culture.
And for ****** sake, we inspired the world. Our idea of government was radically new, perhaps we weren't the first to think of it, but we were the first to get it up and running on such a large scale. Norway is one of the happiest countries on Earth right now, and you know what Norway did? They practically copied our constitution top to bottom. Our idea of politics isn't just part of our culture, it's one of the most influential things that any country has done in recent history. It changed the world.
We made computers, AND we made the internet. Which are both now a GLOBAL culture, largely influenced by us.
Not to mention the countless scientific achievements we've made, a lot of which related to our advancements in Astrophysics, Quantum Physics, Medicine, and everyone's favorite, Plastics.
The fact of the matter is, America has such a huge, wide, and influential culture, that it's hard to even notice, because it's so prevalent.
So I don't get it. If it's a trolling tactic then I can understand, but to say that "America has no culture" is like saying that steak has no protein.
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dorfdorfdorf (10/31/2015) [-] hands-down the most kickass inventors/inventions in the past century?
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hongkonglongdong (10/31/2015) [-]
Doesn't really count if you take them. Most of 'em are famously German.
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dorfdorfdorf (10/31/2015) [-] you mean like how nikola tesla traveled form croatia to america to make his inventions?
you mean like that?
is that what you mean?
you mean like that?
is that what you mean?
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hongkonglongdong (10/31/2015) [-] Wernher von Braun.
But hey, why take one? You could have 1'500. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
But hey, why take one? You could have 1'500. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
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dorfdorfdorf (10/31/2015) [-] i counted a grand total of 1 invention (a missle) throughout that entire program
id say 'nice try' but i dont think you tried
id say 'nice try' but i dont think you tried
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dorfdorfdorf (10/31/2015) [-] a dickload of natural and man-made landmarks? formalizing a dickload of sports?
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hongkonglongdong (10/31/2015) [-]
>natural landmarks
Well sure. It makes up much of a continent. Doesn't make it, you know, culture.
>man-made landmarks
Lots of places have better landmarks, honestly. It's no big deal- the big powerful countries don't tend to have the big powerful landmarks, because that requires the kind of high concentration of wealth among the elites that the US doesn't have but Saudi Arabia, say, does.
To make this clear; of course I think America has a culture. I'm just arguing against it having the (subjectively) best culture.
Well sure. It makes up much of a continent. Doesn't make it, you know, culture.
>man-made landmarks
Lots of places have better landmarks, honestly. It's no big deal- the big powerful countries don't tend to have the big powerful landmarks, because that requires the kind of high concentration of wealth among the elites that the US doesn't have but Saudi Arabia, say, does.
To make this clear; of course I think America has a culture. I'm just arguing against it having the (subjectively) best culture.
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dorfdorfdorf (10/31/2015) [-] pardon my french but when the **** did i say america had the best?
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dorfdorfdorf (10/31/2015) [-] again, i dont recall saying that you did
maybe stop putting words in my mouth?
maybe stop putting words in my mouth?
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dorfdorfdorf (10/31/2015) [-] you: that doesnt count as culture because i dont think it counts as culture
me: well gee, i guess nothing is culture if it's based on what people 'think'
and this still isnt an answer to your idea of me claiming that america has the best culture. i literally ******* never said that. literally. ******* . never.
me: well gee, i guess nothing is culture if it's based on what people 'think'
and this still isnt an answer to your idea of me claiming that america has the best culture. i literally ******* never said that. literally. ******* . never.
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dorfdorfdorf (10/31/2015) [-] the wild west? the antebellum south? the roaring twenties?
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hongkonglongdong (10/31/2015) [-]
All subjective. I personally have always found them boring, but that's just me- I prefer dudes smacking sharpened hunks of steel into each other while wearing engraved plates of steel. Anyway, other countries have stuff like that too.
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hongkonglongdong (10/31/2015) [-]
Are all not unique to America or heavily influenced by other cultures. Alfred Hitchcock, anyone?
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dorfdorfdorf (10/31/2015) [-] sure, they arent unique anymore
because other countries adopted them
because other countries adopted them
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hongkonglongdong (10/31/2015) [-]
Nope.
Music? Mostly Britbong.
Comics? Heavily influenced by Britbong again, actually, but also Japan (of course) and France.
Hollywood? Again, Hitchcock. And Jews.
Music? Mostly Britbong.
Comics? Heavily influenced by Britbong again, actually, but also Japan (of course) and France.
Hollywood? Again, Hitchcock. And Jews.
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dorfdorfdorf (10/31/2015) [-] woah ho ho, i would absolutely LOVE to hear you try and explain how music is mostly britian. wow. what a story mark
actually no, though. yk, **** like batman, superman, fantastic four, iron man, captain america werent really influenced by britain one red cent
this just in: hitchcock is the only director ever
actually no, though. yk, **** like batman, superman, fantastic four, iron man, captain america werent really influenced by britain one red cent
this just in: hitchcock is the only director ever
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hongkonglongdong (10/31/2015) [-]
Beatles ************ .
>Marvel wasn't influenced by Britain
2000AD ************ . Famous for most of its writers ending up in charge of Marvel and DC, with...Batman, Superman, Iron Man and all...
Hitchcock is considered the best director of all time.
And what's with redthumbing a guy you're arguing with? Don't think your argument can stand up on its own or something?
>Marvel wasn't influenced by Britain
2000AD ************ . Famous for most of its writers ending up in charge of Marvel and DC, with...Batman, Superman, Iron Man and all...
Hitchcock is considered the best director of all time.
And what's with redthumbing a guy you're arguing with? Don't think your argument can stand up on its own or something?
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dorfdorfdorf (10/31/2015) [-] so just "the beatles". not gonna mention country music like george strait, johnny cash, conway twitty? blues like from louisiana or georgia? elvis? eagles? michael jackson, king of pop? aerosmith? springsteen? madonna? metalica? whitney houston? journey? neil diamond? prince? eminem? willy nelson? sinatra? earth wind and fire? hendrix?
pic related
is he though? and taking #1 means nothing if we also take #2 and #3. and 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, etc.
you salty about pixels?
pic related
is he though? and taking #1 means nothing if we also take #2 and #3. and 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, etc.
you salty about pixels?
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hongkonglongdong (10/31/2015) [-]
No, I'm not going to mention irrelevant artists. I'm not saying Britain makes up the entirety of music. I'm saying America doesn't.
Pic related is exactly what I'm talking about.
Are you?
Pic related is exactly what I'm talking about.
Are you?
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lordraine (10/31/2015) [-]
'Yuropoor ********** American culture'
'while wearing a Batman t-shirt and with an iProduct in their pocket'
Keep dreaming, Yuropoor. Face facts. Reality is a Civ game, and America won a Culture victory a hundred and fifty turns ago. Our culture is so ubiquitous you don't even see it anymore. You watch our movies, debate about our pop icons and fictional characters, eat our food right alongside your own, and wear our brands on all of your stuff.
And you still bitch that we have no culture. Grant you, I'm not surprised. That seems to be all Europe is good for these days. Orban is the only one out of all of you that still has a pair of balls or two brain cells to rub together. But I'm still disappointed.
It's a good thing I don't actually give a **** about Europe, or what's happening to you self-important ***** might actually be sad.
'while wearing a Batman t-shirt and with an iProduct in their pocket'
Keep dreaming, Yuropoor. Face facts. Reality is a Civ game, and America won a Culture victory a hundred and fifty turns ago. Our culture is so ubiquitous you don't even see it anymore. You watch our movies, debate about our pop icons and fictional characters, eat our food right alongside your own, and wear our brands on all of your stuff.
And you still bitch that we have no culture. Grant you, I'm not surprised. That seems to be all Europe is good for these days. Orban is the only one out of all of you that still has a pair of balls or two brain cells to rub together. But I'm still disappointed.
It's a good thing I don't actually give a **** about Europe, or what's happening to you self-important ***** might actually be sad.
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anon (10/31/2015) [-]
That's very picky and obnoxious of you to say that. Europe and the USA has had a very close bond over the years as they have all originated from Europe with USA not having much of their own culture other than the combination of almost all European cultures. It's really pretty weird to argue that one side is greater culturally-wise than the other because they both stem from the same root and everything found in the US can be found in Europe and everything found in Europe can be found in the US, with some exceptions. One can argue that because the world is wearing t-shirts and jeans, USA is leading culturally-wise. But the ones that made those concepts and improved them over the years had a European background and adhered to old European mentalities because USA was not westernized over time but rather born a western nation, founded primarily by Europeans.
There is no great switch where Europeans became Americans, nowadays there is a distinction but that distinction is very small and it the difference between, say, Spain and the US would be as big as the difference between Spain and Croatia, if not smaller. USA is a European nation on another continent, USA was molded from existing age-old cultures in Europe and continues to develop just like countries in Europe today, and they almost always develop in the same direction.
So when you say "Yuropoor" you are not far from saying "Amerifat". If you care so much for America then hating Europe would make you a hypocrite as what you love about America does exist in Europe and what you hate about Europe exists in the US. The icing on the cake is also that you decide to deem the European population of 711 million people a hivemind that only share one common thought and that thought is hatred of America and self-importance. Go educate yourself ****** .
/rant
There is no great switch where Europeans became Americans, nowadays there is a distinction but that distinction is very small and it the difference between, say, Spain and the US would be as big as the difference between Spain and Croatia, if not smaller. USA is a European nation on another continent, USA was molded from existing age-old cultures in Europe and continues to develop just like countries in Europe today, and they almost always develop in the same direction.
So when you say "Yuropoor" you are not far from saying "Amerifat". If you care so much for America then hating Europe would make you a hypocrite as what you love about America does exist in Europe and what you hate about Europe exists in the US. The icing on the cake is also that you decide to deem the European population of 711 million people a hivemind that only share one common thought and that thought is hatred of America and self-importance. Go educate yourself ****** .
/rant
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hongkonglongdong (10/31/2015) [-]
150 years ago America was still a backwater. For culture, you'd be looking at France. And to some extent Britain, but that was more of an economic thing.
America's cultural rise only really started after the First World War.
America's cultural rise only really started after the First World War.
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anon (10/31/2015) [-]
It is only as large as it is because Britain spread it across the world. Without British imperialism, English would not be as popular as it is today.
Also,
American English is in my opinion easier to learn when it isn't your first language. This isn't very surprising because USA was from the very beginning a cultural melding pot and the dialect made most popular is perhaps the one easiest to learn for those who didn't speak English, maybe? I personally found it easier to learn from American English than British, even if I think British sounds better.
Also,
American English is in my opinion easier to learn when it isn't your first language. This isn't very surprising because USA was from the very beginning a cultural melding pot and the dialect made most popular is perhaps the one easiest to learn for those who didn't speak English, maybe? I personally found it easier to learn from American English than British, even if I think British sounds better.
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hongkonglongdong (10/31/2015) [-]
Debatable. Many people prefer to teach British English, as it still carries connotations of "properness" even if it isn't actually how most people speak it. Kind of like how people learn Spanish Spanish, not Mexican Spanish.
This is especially true in formerly Imperial places like India or Singapore.
This is especially true in formerly Imperial places like India or Singapore.
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theattackmaster (10/30/2015) [-] I know it is hard to tell since most of European culture is adopted American culture, but please try harder next time.
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thegamegestapo (10/30/2015) [-] I'd forgotten how the Louvre is full of great American works.
I mean this isn't really a debate, Europe has a proud history stretching back to before Rome was founded. America has a few hundred years, most of which were spent being either a colony or a second-rate cattle ranch.
To be honest I think Shakespeare has the edge over Teen Wolf.
I mean this isn't really a debate, Europe has a proud history stretching back to before Rome was founded. America has a few hundred years, most of which were spent being either a colony or a second-rate cattle ranch.
To be honest I think Shakespeare has the edge over Teen Wolf.
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xxbutthurtxx (10/31/2015) [-] I don't think getting blown the **** out was part of his plan tho.
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akkere ONLINE (10/30/2015) [-] You don't exactly have much right to boast about the Louvre when you have such ignorance to cultural development that you refuse to correct.
America's built up its culture since it established self-sustaining towns and fostered everything from artistic development (which, our landscape artwork as a result of the rise in artists is actually in the very Louvre you ignorantly brought up) to political thought and later music. The Roaring Twenties probably saw more developments in culture built up in a decade than most countries could cultivate in a century.
The nonsensical idea of "America has no culture" is so ridiculously ignorant, it's unbelievable that in a time where access to all sorts of information regarding global history, people like you still prefer to wallow in your arrogance.
America's built up its culture since it established self-sustaining towns and fostered everything from artistic development (which, our landscape artwork as a result of the rise in artists is actually in the very Louvre you ignorantly brought up) to political thought and later music. The Roaring Twenties probably saw more developments in culture built up in a decade than most countries could cultivate in a century.
The nonsensical idea of "America has no culture" is so ridiculously ignorant, it's unbelievable that in a time where access to all sorts of information regarding global history, people like you still prefer to wallow in your arrogance.
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theattackmaster (10/30/2015) [-] McDonalds, the Internet, Jeans, do I need to go on? Thing the europeans do every day are things started in the united states. Even the use of the word ok originated in the states. I'm not saying that Europe doesn't have culture, but pretending America doesn't is simply asinine.
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notagainpls (10/30/2015) [-] Founder of the internet Tim Berners-Lee was from the UK, which is in Europe.
The jeans fabric was first made in Italy and France...Europe I guess.
And the ancestors to the burger with all kinds of varieties of patties served are from...Asia actually.
The jeans fabric was first made in Italy and France...Europe I guess.
And the ancestors to the burger with all kinds of varieties of patties served are from...Asia actually.
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theattackmaster (10/30/2015) [-] ARPANET developed in the US, which is in north america.
www.history.com/topics/inventions/invention-of-the-internet
Blue Jeans patented by Levi Strauss in 1873
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeans
And while Burgers may have originated from Asia, McDonalds, a company which sells burgers in every continent with the exception of Antarctica, was started in the US.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald%27s
www.history.com/topics/inventions/invention-of-the-internet
Blue Jeans patented by Levi Strauss in 1873
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeans
And while Burgers may have originated from Asia, McDonalds, a company which sells burgers in every continent with the exception of Antarctica, was started in the US.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald%27s
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notagainpls (10/30/2015) [-]
Because you patented "jeans" doesn't make it your invention. Inventor is from Russia using things made in Europe.
Inventor who got the http things to work is from the UK using tools provided by a load of scientists from all over the world.
I'll give you the burger one because it's a longshot to the patties. May McDonald's be with you.
Inventor who got the http things to work is from the UK using tools provided by a load of scientists from all over the world.
I'll give you the burger one because it's a longshot to the patties. May McDonald's be with you.
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notagainpls (10/30/2015) [-]
And the origin of the word "ok" is quite a longshot because there seem to have been various cultures using similar arrangements of letters and abbreviations.
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theattackmaster (10/30/2015) [-] Do you know who Van Buren was? The Eight President of the United States, located in guess where, North America. Doesn't sound like Europa to me, how about you?
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hongkonglongdong (10/30/2015) [-] Tell that to Tumblr.
Faggots can't stop thinking about Dr. Who, Sherlock and House.
And then there's Wakfu...
Faggots can't stop thinking about Dr. Who, Sherlock and House.
And then there's Wakfu...
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lordraine (10/30/2015) [-]
The majority of Who fans are hipsters who want to appear nerdy but never actually liked Star Trek or Star Wars. You can tell who they are, because they hate the old Doctors. The Dr. Who fandom (along with the Sherlok fandom) is bouyed by faux-nerds and hormonal immature women who masturbate to to the actors.
House was always a series for leddit edgelords who enjoy countertipping to House's metaphorical fedora. Most people stopped caring when they watched five episodes and realized the plot never changes and nothing interesting ever happens.
As for Wakfu, I'd call that proof for what I already said. Europe imports American and Japanese culture wholesale to replace their own. Wakfu is nothing more than a French-produced anime.
House was always a series for leddit edgelords who enjoy countertipping to House's metaphorical fedora. Most people stopped caring when they watched five episodes and realized the plot never changes and nothing interesting ever happens.
As for Wakfu, I'd call that proof for what I already said. Europe imports American and Japanese culture wholesale to replace their own. Wakfu is nothing more than a French-produced anime.
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hongkonglongdong (10/30/2015) [-]
I'm not disagreeing with you. But calling people idiots doesn't stop them from being American idiots.
Of course France is inspired by Japanese animation, do you even know anything about France? They were the guys that introduced anime to the west. And anyway, by that logic; Avatar. And RWBY.
Of course France is inspired by Japanese animation, do you even know anything about France? They were the guys that introduced anime to the west. And anyway, by that logic; Avatar. And RWBY.
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lordraine (10/30/2015) [-]
Sure thing The SJWs who are tripping over themselves to let in the economic migrants in Europe? They're not hipster idiots at all. America totally has a monopoly on them. You bet.
And also, you ******* what? Anime exists because the Japanese copied Disney and Betty Boop. From America.
Maybe France introduced anime to Europe, but you sure as hell didn't introduce it to America. We don't give a **** about France or what they do.
If anything made anime and manga blow up in America, it was the rise of the big three; Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach. France didn't have ******** to do with that.
And also, you ******* what? Anime exists because the Japanese copied Disney and Betty Boop. From America.
Maybe France introduced anime to Europe, but you sure as hell didn't introduce it to America. We don't give a **** about France or what they do.
If anything made anime and manga blow up in America, it was the rise of the big three; Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach. France didn't have ******** to do with that.
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hongkonglongdong (10/30/2015) [-]
Never said Americans have a monopoly on them. Just a very large proportion of them. Most tumblrtards are American, and it shows- how often have SJWs been accused of Amerocentrism? Or what about that Polish and Czech thing regarding the Witcher and Kingdom Come? That was very definitely Americans trying to tell Yuros what their own countries were like. And think about gamergate; how many of those against it are american? Most, by far.
Anime has nothing to do with Disney mang. Well, not in the way you're describing. There's more to animation than Disney. The Russians were widely considered the best animators.
>Maybe France introduced anime to Europe, but you sure as hell didn't introduce it to America. We don't give a **** about France or what they do.
Sorry mang. But it's true. You might not give a **** about what they do, but pretentious animation nerds do. France is pretty much the place to go to for animation, after all. And from there, it just spread.
Anime has nothing to do with Disney mang. Well, not in the way you're describing. There's more to animation than Disney. The Russians were widely considered the best animators.
>Maybe France introduced anime to Europe, but you sure as hell didn't introduce it to America. We don't give a **** about France or what they do.
Sorry mang. But it's true. You might not give a **** about what they do, but pretentious animation nerds do. France is pretty much the place to go to for animation, after all. And from there, it just spread.
