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Edward Snowden.. Edward Snowden wants YOU to take back the net!!! Normally i do not care for thumbs, but this is important. If you value internet privacy, then

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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#1 - daddycool
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A lot of people say that we need the NSA to combat terrorism. Well, I have to ask "what terrorists have they foiled?" I mean, seriously, the only reason the time square bomber didn't get his job done was because he was incompetent. The Boston Marathon bombing went off without a hitch. The underwear bomber was only foiled by his own incompetence and other people on the plane. The Forthood shooter did his stuff while being a part of the government.

What good is this massive security doing us? I could understand giving up the meta data of phone calls and what-not if it really would help national security, but the only reason we haven't been hit by 9/11 style terrorism seems to not be because we're winning but because they can't pull their heads out of their own asses long enough to murder us.

That's what leads me to believe that this isn't about fighting terrorism, it's about controlling people through intimidation. Someone saying things you don't like? Well, we have a lot of your internet traffic, and wouldn't it be a shame if everyone knew you were a bit too friendly with your dog? Find someone that actually is clean? Well, it's not like we can't manufacture something that will make you look icky.

Anyone remember the Firefox CEO that was outed as against gay marriage? Anyone know where the information that got him fired came from? Oh, yeah, someone in the government leaked that information.

Makes you think...
User avatar #6 to #1 - therealtjthemedic
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(06/05/2014) [-]
The problem is that stopping terrorist attacks in secret can never show merits for it.
I mean, if your job is to stop people from detonating venus, you're doing a great job, because who's ever detonated venus?
#14 to #6 - anon id: 7a7703fb
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(06/05/2014) [-]
That still does not prove they have been useful. Its the perfect disguise for a redundant organisation. The former director said something along the lines of "if I could show Snowden the damage he's done", but he knows that will never happen and no one can request such information for fear it might compromise some unknown people.
User avatar #3 to #1 - theblacksheep
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(06/05/2014) [-]
"what terrorists have they foiled?". Their job is to stop them not to make a public address of each success. I'd imagine it involves a lot of shady ****, but to me that's fine as long as their goal to protect Americans stays constant. And sometimes the biggest threat to an American is another American, but I can definitely see the issue with mass surveillance of non-threatening Americans. If we just profiled people (assuming we don't) it'd be a lot quicker but I can understand how a press statement announcing racial and political profiling wouldn't go over well. So for me it seems trying to stop terrorism is one of those things that has a lot of grey area.
#30 to #3 - daddycool
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(06/06/2014) [-]
"What terrorists have they foiled?" 1 or 2, according to NSA Chief

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/2/nsa-chief-figures-foiled-terror-plots-misleading/?page=all
User avatar #32 to #30 - theblacksheep
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"Gen. Alexander also acknowledged that only one or perhaps two of even those 13 cases had been foiled with help from the NSA’s vast phone records database. The database contains so-called metadata — the numbers dialing and dialed, time and duration of call — for every phone call made in or to the U.S."

Good source, thank you for that. To me stopping even one terrorist plot is worth it, but everyone has their opinions. I can definitely see both sides of the argument as having valid points.
#40 to #32 - anon id: d7b06fed
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(06/06/2014) [-]
I agree exactly. For me, it's the same with Gun Control. If we can impose any sort of extra control/law/guideline that prevents even ONE murder- isn't it worth it? If you think no, then that means you believe you can essentially put a price on a life.

For National Security, when the "X1 always on" thing was a hot topic I honestly didn't give two *****. If you have nothing to hide then what's it matter? People want privacy and security, yet they don't understand that you can't have both in the modern world.
#35 to #32 - daddycool
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I disagree, but I respect your honesty.

The NSA has way too much information and has way too much power. If it's not corrupt now, it will inevitably be corrupt and that will lead to a lot of harm for the US.
User avatar #37 to #35 - theblacksheep
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I'm not sure what the current process is for the NSA to view this data, if they have to get a warrant to search a person and related persons, or if it is free roam. But if it requires a warrant for them to access specific information, and nothing beyond a reasonable branching off of that lead, I don't see how it's any different than a cop getting a warrant and searching your house. But if it is not required to have a warrant then I would agree with you that it is over stepping.
#7 to #3 - anon id: a01037c0
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another is law maker may deidce make those record acces to law enforce change laws for certain thing make illegal get youthat way i know this sound paranoid but tis also possabile to do so hmm alot of people that are agasitn our new policy also like toasted marsh meells in there asshole lets make htat illegal arrest them i know im make stragne thing about it just seem that next step there going to take i agree with it has alot of grey areas this being part of it imena pot was made illege by nixon for protetor who were agsint war gnerally smoked it of ocurse not all which made it easeir to get ride of those appose that war os it not really streach that was within alot ofpeopel lifes time lets not forget cia help drug reach amraicne to found it allies but no other country can say it not the same or done somthing slimair uk opumim wars with china we gave hong kong back in 1996 we live strange world
User avatar #10 to #7 - theblacksheep
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I really tried to read this.. really.. but this is illegible
User avatar #13 - sethbean
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Can anyone verify validity and/or safety for this program? I mean this guy just spent a year in Russia as a US enemy. For all I know it could be the beginning of skynet.
User avatar #25 to #13 - snerus
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's open source. You can look at what it does for yourself.
#17 to #13 - CommonJoo
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(06/06/2014) [-]
I agree with this guy. Not gonna just download something without knowing **** about it and I don't care enough to research
User avatar #23 to #13 - raidaltamimi
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I'm with this guy.
#33 - anon id: 23a2452e
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Yeah, like I'm going to trust a program championed by a guy who's been hiding in Russia for the last few years. No thanks.
#34 to #33 - pineapplepeople
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Obama, what are you doing on funnyjunk? It's a joke ******, don't get your panties in a bunch INB4 secret service hunts me down for having Obama and ****** in the same post.
#24 - anon id: e40441ed
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(06/06/2014) [-]
**** Edward Snowden, and **** reset the net..... that is all...
**** Edward Snowden, and **** reset the net..... that is all...
#19 - anon id: b9006cfc
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Edward Snowden is a ******* pussy, he runs away from america to the most repressive government in the modern world. I agree the nsa should not be so invasive, but snowden's a ******* douchesnonozzle
#26 to #19 - anon id: f4c0e2e2
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(06/06/2014) [-]
well the fbi was kinda after him...
User avatar #28 to #19 - thesoulless
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>implying he wouldn't have been killed and buried where he'd never be found if he hadn't left the US
#41 to #28 - anon id: 18e059af
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> implying his 'evidence' actually proved anything illegal going on.
#18 - anon id: 1317893c
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(06/06/2014) [-]
Alright, for the most part, now I think Edward is a cunt. And before you scream at me becuase "erh mah gerd, he was telling you about your governement spying on you!!!!!!" Yes, that was good of him, and I would still look at him as a hero IF! he had left it at that, but no, rather then jsut beign a whistle blower and telling us about how the government was spying on us, he stole THOUSANDS of documents related to activities BEYOND the governemt spying on it's people that had a SEVERE impact on U.S. national security. To me, that makes him a traitor, I can respect how it started, and how he wanted to help protect U.S. citizens privacy, wehat I cannot respect is the fact that he went well beyoind what was necessary and into teh realm of stealing documents that were unrelated to the NSA's spying of american citizens
User avatar #38 to #18 - avengeralpha
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Did he release any of those files? If he didn't then taking them would have most likley been an insurance policy so he had cards to play when the US gov came looking for blood.
#42 to #38 - anon id: 18e059af
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He released them all. The extent was such that even the newspapers decided to censor them since they were an obvious security threat.

Also worth noting is the fact that among these documents were the court orders and documents detailing how everything being done was within legal bounds.
#8 - golfbob
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(06/05/2014) [-]
I agree with this, but **** Edward Snowden.
#9 to #8 - anon id: 889def28
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(06/05/2014) [-]
Why? because when the U.S keeps secrets it's okay but when ONE person shares those secrets he's the criminal?
#21 to #9 - anon id: c5696d2a
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Well, you see, every nation does this ****, so I don't see the problem with it.
If the government wants to spy on other countries, I have no problem with it.
If the government spies on it's own people, I do have a problem, but even so, **** Snowden. The information he leaked has quite possibly compromised america's stance in the world, which will cause prices to go up, and force us to make concessions, which is bad for our superiority. And he compromised our agents in other countries, which means we lose influence in those developing nations we want to control.
So yeah, **** Snowden.
#36 to #21 - diddlydum
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(06/06/2014) [-]
The problem with that is that you're defending the government for spying on everyone. We need to end that ****, not promote keeping it a secret. And we don't need the influence in those developing countries. We need to keep our hands to ourselves for ******* once.

American government is like the bully on the playground that the teachers love so they won't do anything about it. All the other kids already hate them, and they're just gonna grow up to be a piece of **** who expects everyone to bow to them. Looks like we're already on the way.
#43 to #36 - anon id: 18e059af
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The problem is that although we all use the internet, very few people seem to actually realise how it works and what systems are in place. It made it a ripe opportunity for a ********* to be kicked out of nothing. Once you realise the extent of what the NSA was actually doing - from a technical standpoint - you realise it was less 'spying on everyone' and more 'having less info about you than google.'
User avatar #39 to #36 - avengeralpha
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Yeah I agree and it is stupid to think that every nations government is spying on its population many simply don't have the capability or the funds to run such an operation..
User avatar #31 to #9 - Sethorein
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well... revealing the international secrets of one country kinda puts it in an awkward place, see?
#11 to #9 - golfbob
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(06/05/2014) [-]
If he didn't like what the government was doing he should have just left the project. Not stolen all sorts of secrets and released them.
User avatar #15 to #11 - nanako
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(06/05/2014) [-]
i don't think the word "should" means what you think it means.

what you describe is what would have been smart to do, selfish, self preserving, and safe. Those are words that would describe that action. Should is not a word that can describe them. what he Should have done is exactly what he did.
#16 to #15 - anon id: 4171bcab
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I think the bigger problem are the documents he stole that weren't related to the surveillance...things that could end soldiers lives.
User avatar #22 - rarityrarityrarity
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>fighting back
>on the internet

lel
#12 - icefried
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#2 - anon id: af1e0c11
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Uhh well it's almost 6th so i guess i wont bother
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