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Dumbest Thing I've Ever Seen. I recently found out about this twitter through someone I follow mentioning them and I checked it out and cringed at the stupidity

I recently found out about this twitter through someone I follow mentioning them and I checked it out and cringed at the stupidity spewed out of this twitter.

Feminist Frequency @ - Oct 13
d I' ll be discussing the reasons Bayonetta is so pernicious in my Fighting ****
Toy video. Bayonetta is a quintessential example of the trope.
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Feminist Frequency @ r Oct 13
Everything about Bayonetta' s design, mechanics and characterization is
created specifically for the sexual pleasure of straight male garners-
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Feminist Frequency @ - Oct 13
Disappointed to see most major Bayonetta 2 reviews completely ignore or
even praise its shameless sexism and flagrant use of the male gaze
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#5 - flnonymousseven (10/15/2014) [-]
I mean... she (bayonetta) is pretty fetishized...
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User avatar #18 to #5 - SirSheepy (10/16/2014) [-]
So is porn. I don't really see what the big deal is/
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User avatar #59 to #18 - flnonymousseven (10/16/2014) [-]
porn fetishized every "Character" equally

equal opportunity fetishization.

also, (and this is purely opinion at this point) fetishizing vidya characters is like watching porn for the plot, awkward and stupid. let porn be porn and let vidya be vidya.
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User avatar #26 to #18 - groulgarigon (10/16/2014) [-]
You go to porn for the fetishes. You go to video games for the (rarely fetishized) entertainment. At least most of them anyway. I typically tend to disagree with Sarkeesian and Quinn and most other extremists like them, but I am willing to agree with them that Bayonetta is pre- oooh my good stop talking about this **** already! I had hoped this **** would end after the funnyjunk server went down. I had hoped you would move on to some other stupid fad but nope! We have to keep talking about some stupid ******* social justice movement. Please tell me exactly what has come of these idiots talking about feminism and sexist views in video games! And don't give me the bull **** that Zoe Quinn changed everything! Games journalism like all journalism was corrupt and untrustworthy before her, it is during her and it will be after she's forgotten (that is, "if" she's forgotten, because as I mentioned before you people won't shut the **** up about her). All those 10s across the board for utterly bland games like Call of Duty and Borderlands? No yeah I'm sure those were fair scores and not handed out because the company payed them money to say it was a great game.

*sigh* All I'm saying is find some new thing to complain about. Because these social justice retards like Rebecca Watson, Anita Sarkeesian, and Zoe Quinn don't deserve to be given the time of day, let alone have us regard them with any amount of recognition.
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#37 to #5 - anon (10/16/2014) [-]
The thing is the developer is female. or the designer of her
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User avatar #13 to #5 - crispybomb [OP](10/16/2014) [-]
These days anything is a fetish. You see that pebble on the sidewalk? Someone wants to do sexual things with that pebble. You see the blimp/zeppelin in the sky? Someone wants to do sexual things with that blimp/zeppelin. But when a fetish involves a woman you better prepare your anus because the feminists are breaking down your door. Where are the rights for pebbles and blimps/zeppelins? There are none! Yet we're the bad guys.
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User avatar #58 to #13 - flnonymousseven (10/16/2014) [-]
the difference is Bayonetta is DESIGNED to be fetishized. all the sexy things she says or does, someone wrote her character to do and say those things specifically for that reason.

blimps are designed to fly (the also aren't representations of real people and thus don't effect societies subconscious perceptions thereof)
pebbles are not designed at all
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#25 to #5 - muffinssnuffims (10/16/2014) [-]
Right but it should be ok. Romance novels are pretty ******* fetishized as well as often pretty sexist, but that's ok. First off they have a certain target audience, and secondly they aren't ******* real.
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#9 to #5 - majordeadpool (10/15/2014) [-]
Its also a game marketed towards the group that would find it appealing, I see your point, but come on, there are worse things to get annoyed over than a video game character's design not being to your liking(Especially when you're not in the group the game is aiming for.) She is fetishzied, Ill agree to that, but take a look at Kratos from God of War and there you'll see a man showing a man with a chest you could crack walnuts on. At the end of the day, issues like this are nonexistent and pointless because they're an issue of taste. "I dont like how this character is dressed" isnt enough reason to have it changed.
Its also a game marketed towards the group that would find it appealing, I see your point, but come on, there are worse things to get annoyed over than a video game character's design not being to your liking(Especially when you're not in the group the game is aiming for.)

She is fetishzied, Ill agree to that, but take a look at Kratos from God of War and there you'll see a man showing a man with a chest you could crack walnuts on.

At the end of the day, issues like this are nonexistent and pointless because they're an issue of taste. "I dont like how this character is dressed" isnt enough reason to have it changed.
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#57 to #9 - flnonymousseven (10/16/2014) [-]
*devils advocation intensifies*

there's nearly nothing sexual about kratos though.
there's a difference between being sexy, and fetishized. you can have a character look good without sexualizing (almost) every aspect of their character or design.

It's not an issue of taste or opinion though. Think of it this way: racist cartoons in the 40s and 50s had a market as well, white people mostly, but that alone doesn't justify their existence. It wasn't a matter of taste. they were objectively ****** up. and now we don't stand for that **** anymore.

Listen, I don't like these feminist assholes any more than the next guy. but they do raise some valid points.
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#61 to #57 - majordeadpool (10/16/2014) [-]
Is the comparison between racists cartoons and a sexy video game character really valid? One was an attack and mockery of another group, made to make them seem stupid and incapable of much than slave labour. Bayonetta is about a woman who is sure of herself, kicks more ass than most, doesn't cover herself up because she enjoys how she looks. She isnt an attack, she is literally the kind of woman they claim to be. A strong, independent woman who doesn't need a man to fight for her. Though granted I see your point in differing between "sexy" and fetishzed, I just think Bayonetta balances the two out. (Imagine a dumb woman using sex as a weapon in extreme ways, she wears costumes, is treated like dirt by males and is considered useless. THAT is what we should look out for, not Bayonetta) Also worth noting, Id agree with some characters, some are just made as eyecandy or fetish fuel. But considering how this character goes above and beyond to be a strong female protagonist, I think the argument kinda falls flat. Despite the sometimes excessive fetish fuel. Yes, men will buy it because she's sexy, yes it sells but no it doesn't hurt women. A game like Duke Nukem is what theyre after, where women are nothing but a trophy for the strong man. Bayonetta and games like it, aren't sexist. Also about Kratos, while not fetishized, its a huge burly guy who can rip the heads off Gorgons without breaking a sweat. He's pretty much "perfect" by today's standards of how men 'should' look, big tall with muscles. Yet nobody is crying about the image of men being exploited, because it doesnt really matter to anyone. People who like GoW will keep playing it, and feminists out for blood would rather hunt down a female character with a slight cleavage than a male character sterotype. Basically, I agree with your point, but I dont think it applies to Bayonetta (Despite it HEAVILY proving your point in certain areas.)
Is the comparison between racists cartoons and a sexy video game character really valid? One was an attack and mockery of another group, made to make them seem stupid and incapable of much than slave labour.

Bayonetta is about a woman who is sure of herself, kicks more ass than most, doesn't cover herself up because she enjoys how she looks. She isnt an attack, she is literally the kind of woman they claim to be. A strong, independent woman who doesn't need a man to fight for her. Though granted I see your point in differing between "sexy" and fetishzed, I just think Bayonetta balances the two out. (Imagine a dumb woman using sex as a weapon in extreme ways, she wears costumes, is treated like dirt by males and is considered useless. THAT is what we should look out for, not Bayonetta)

Also worth noting, Id agree with some characters, some are just made as eyecandy or fetish fuel. But considering how this character goes above and beyond to be a strong female protagonist, I think the argument kinda falls flat. Despite the sometimes excessive fetish fuel.

Yes, men will buy it because she's sexy, yes it sells but no it doesn't hurt women. A game like Duke Nukem is what theyre after, where women are nothing but a trophy for the strong man. Bayonetta and games like it, aren't sexist.

Also about Kratos, while not fetishized, its a huge burly guy who can rip the heads off Gorgons without breaking a sweat. He's pretty much "perfect" by today's standards of how men 'should' look, big tall with muscles. Yet nobody is crying about the image of men being exploited, because it doesnt really matter to anyone. People who like GoW will keep playing it, and feminists out for blood would rather hunt down a female character with a slight cleavage than a male character sterotype.

Basically, I agree with your point, but I dont think it applies to Bayonetta (Despite it HEAVILY proving your point in certain areas.)
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User avatar #62 to #61 - flnonymousseven (10/16/2014) [-]
a solid argument. I suppose sexualization can be employed tastefully in cases. especially where empowerment is a factor. I learned things today.
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User avatar #63 to #62 - majordeadpool (10/16/2014) [-]
No worries, I will concede that Bayonetta does lean on the fetish appeal more than they need to/should. So you weren't wrong by any means.
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User avatar #64 to #63 - flnonymousseven (10/16/2014) [-]
why the **** can't more discussions of this topic be this reasonable?
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User avatar #65 to #64 - majordeadpool (10/16/2014) [-]
Honestly? I think a lot of people just can't handle being proven wrong/having to alter their view, so instead of accepting defeat they'll scream and rage, or simply cut the argument short while still claiming superiority.

So honestly, people just need to grow the **** up and handle being wrong every now and then.
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#10 - lozarus (10/15/2014) [-]
Im so tired of her and the whole "Stop enjoying what I dont like" attitude.
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#27 - angelusprimus (10/16/2014) [-]
Hey! Bayonetta 2 is extremely erotic!
Look at her dressed like a whore!
I mean look at her exposed... uhh, no boobs are covered... but her ass... no wait, there is a cloak over the ass... LEGS! no, no she's wearing pants...
SHE HAS UNCOVERED HAIR AND ARMS! BY ALLAH THAT IS A DISGRACE!
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User avatar #42 to #27 - masterjogi ONLINE (10/16/2014) [-]
Her Arms are covered, except for her Hands
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User avatar #46 to #42 - angelusprimus (10/16/2014) [-]
Yeah.
No gloves or anything. Allah damn her for a whore.
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#48 to #27 - anon (10/16/2014) [-]
the game itself is very erotic, have you even played it?
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#4 - maeko ONLINE (10/15/2014) [-]
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User avatar #7 to #4 - thechosentroll (10/15/2014) [-]
No, it doesn't become the truth. It becomes politics.
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User avatar #11 to #7 - maeko ONLINE (10/16/2014) [-]
I think our friend who directed the Nazi propaganda ministry was getting at was that people start believing lies that they are told repeatedly.
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#2 - turkeyslapper (10/15/2014) [-]
Hfw
Hfw
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#52 - alleksi ONLINE (10/16/2014) [-]
>playing a 2 meters tall muscly strong empowering man like in literally every hack and slash fantasy action game
perfectly fine
>playing a 2 meters tall gorgeous strong empowering woman in...well...I guess in two games
SEXIST. BLASPHEMY. HOW DARE THEY.
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User avatar #36 - badmonkey ONLINE (10/16/2014) [-]
Has anyone ever really gotten horny from playing a game? I find that even H games that are made solely to be erotic fail to make me truly aroused due to the interactive nature of games simply distracts the brain from sexual stimulation
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#3 - aldkai (10/15/2014) [-]
OH YOU JUST FOUND OUT YOU WERE A TOOL OH NO ******* **** YOU REALLY DIDN'T SAW THAT COMING DIDN'T YOU YOU SERIOUSLY BELIEVED THEY ACTUALLY GAVE A **** ABOUT WOMEN
OH YOU JUST FOUND OUT YOU WERE A TOOL


OH NO ******* **** YOU REALLY DIDN'T SAW THAT COMING DIDN'T YOU


YOU SERIOUSLY BELIEVED THEY ACTUALLY GAVE A **** ABOUT WOMEN
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#24 - nimithecat (10/16/2014) [-]
Oh for ***** sake.

Why are you guys even fuelling these idiotic people?
Fueling their hate train just keeps them relevant longer you morons. And frankly, checking out their tweets and visiting their pages equals more views, which equals more likelihood of shares and likes.

Just let'em rot for christs sake, they've already picked a dead end path.
Your very existence is egging them on. Let's just play some damn games, treat everybody like a faggot indiscriminately, and call it a day.

No matter what race, gender, sexual preference, or pokemon you are, i will hate everybody that doesn't understand the concept of live and let live. These feminists have no control over "gaming journalism" if you don't read their **** .

You as the customer are the decider of who lives and who dies.
Telling from her extra views and **** , you guys are making her into quite a popular internet sensation. Negative attention is also profitable damn it.

I know our mothers and fathers told us this ******** advice of "ignoring bullies" but while it's ******** advice in real life, it's really effective online. Ignoring people is just enough to drive them broke due to the lack of ad revenue. Ignoring them gives them less reason to fight and fewer "enemies" to "justify" their position.

So in the reality, you guys are helping her.
**** , stop helping her! I can't stress it enough.
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#53 to #24 - anon (10/16/2014) [-]
Yeah femism did well by ingore its radicals you can't ingore them
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#55 to #24 - anon (10/16/2014) [-]
Yeah wu interview happen on t.v mate it wider than Internet now
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User avatar #43 to #24 - dalokan (10/16/2014) [-]
Ignoring them in the first place was the cause by which they all grew exponentially.

Everyone saw SJW's at the start and though "Hey this will go away."

Now that Gamer-Gate has exposed more and more stuff, it becomes clear which companies are forsaking clients in order to cater to this fanclub. You know BioWare? Yeah, they kinda sold out to them, even though they don't buy their games often.

So it's too ******* late to ignore. Deal with it, and hope that the mountains of corruption evidence GG found are enough to bury them under public attention.
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User avatar #60 to #43 - nimithecat (10/16/2014) [-]
Bro, it's simple.
When you don't like something, don't read it, don't buy it, don't visit it.
Your attention is profit.

Just by STANDING with 7 other friends at one of their seminars to curse at them you're still adding 8 extra seats and made her look popular.

Your views are indiscriminate, so no one can really know if you're visiting on negative terms or positive.
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#45 - tiagodisouza (10/16/2014) [-]
When i look at this i dont even get angry anymore i just feel sorry for these idiots
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User avatar #33 - hantervan (10/16/2014) [-]
never played bayonetta, i remember picking up the case though and looking it over, had a quick read and deduced it was likely crap
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User avatar #39 to #33 - joeofold (10/16/2014) [-]
you sir need to level up your deduction skills. bayonetta is a great game that does everything right and bayonetta 2 is a vast improvement on that.
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User avatar #40 to #39 - hantervan (10/16/2014) [-]
hmmm maybe one day ill give it a go, but I do find it rather difficult to get into games with a lead female protagonist... i find it hard to identify with a character who I cant draw direct parallels with (put tomb raider down within an hour of picking it up)
p.s. how does it play? ie. like god of war, AC, etc...
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User avatar #44 to #40 - joeofold (10/16/2014) [-]
its the best example of a good action game. it plays like devil may cry with better characters and level design, the first one also has a better learning curve than most combo games whilst remaining challenging. its also not a very story heavy game so i found that you don't really need to identify and if you haven't played dmc some of the story would be confusing.
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User avatar #54 to #40 - zazonion (10/16/2014) [-]
>Need to identify with the character.
>Casual
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#47 to #40 - Lainge (10/16/2014) [-]
" i find it hard to identify with a character who I cant draw direct parallels with "
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User avatar #32 - shunkahawolf (10/16/2014) [-]
im gay, i like bayonetta, its designed only for straight men.

apparently someone did something wrong here
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User avatar #6 - FrankReal (10/15/2014) [-]
inb4 people call her out for her **** again and she fakes another death threat
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#30 - anon (10/16/2014) [-]
Wait, isnt bayonetta designed by a woman?
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#34 to #30 - woodoo ONLINE (10/16/2014) [-]
Yupp, designed by a woman, who wanted to make a game with a strong female lead model who is not sexually repressed. Anita whatsherface, the person in charge of feminist frequency, is of the opinion that women can not in any way shape or form have any form of sexual thoughts in any way. Funny she seems to think that makes her a feminist.
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#49 - captainganto (10/16/2014) [-]
he crucial mistake is this. the internet has a piss weak attention span. most of us have moved on from her
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User avatar #41 - themagicofaword (10/16/2014) [-]
Is it me or have the favourites and shares of her post staring to go down ?
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User avatar #38 - joeofold (10/16/2014) [-]
technically she is completely naked.
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#31 - hypocritical (10/16/2014) [-]
The people complaining about "misogyny" in video games are ******* retarded. They would get scoffed at and put down if this wasn't about video games but about pretty much anything else.

For example, if people started crying at the Lord of the Rings books because there is mainly a male leading role in the series, the guaranteed response from the populace is to shut the **** up.

However, because this is about video games, people suddenly listen to these "SJWs" and even agree with them. If reading a book doesn't cause a ********* of "misogyny" outcry, why should a game, even though they may be on the same topic?

Just because we can now see the action with video games, doesn't suddenly make it "taboo".

tl;dr the entire topic of misogyny in gaming by all accounts, doesn't make any sense.
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User avatar #28 - cozer (10/16/2014) [-]
Girls supposedly want badass LEAD female characters in games right? They want equality right? Every woman should want to be beautiful, just like how men want to look manly. Bayonetta is hot, but she's also a very strong woman, yes she is nice to look at, but she is also a character that I really like for many other reasons besides tits and ass. I'm sure girls want lead male characters that look hot and that are also very good guys. Feminism is suppose to be about equality and when I game tries to make a sexy and badass female character these "video game journalists" attack them and try to remove their legitimacy to their relatively small fanbase they have acquired. In my opinion what a lot of these women are doing is counter-intuitive. Women want equality? Women are wrong, men are wrong, women are right, and men are right. We're all human beings, a lot of us make mistakes and sometimes have mis-informed opinions whether we are male or female. Many men are being attacked in this gamergate debaucle simply for being male. "Men are pigs!" This is a statement that implies that some "feminists" want females to be superior and not equal which is basically some women using something to their advantage to get ahead of men. We're already all equal, no one race or sex is un-equal in this day and age. Yes some sites, games, movies might be favored, but these are individual peoples opinions and you can't take that away from them no matter how ******** it is. We're all equal, but some people of varying genders and races believe they are superior and that's how it always will be. Not men or women, but all of humanity needs to grow up and realize this.
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