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#12 - sequel
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Why would vegetarians pay attention to what a plant that isn't the species they eat, eat?

That's like saying we should eat hay and grass because cows do.

Just saying this is a silly reason to tell why vegetarians are wrong.
#185 to #12 - anon id: 744eac26
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or, you know, it's a joke and you don't need to become a defensive preteen tumblr girl.

just a thought...
#210 to #185 - sequel
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No ****, although sometimes I forget this is funnyjunk when I read some anime posts.

Read my last line anon.
#1 - idanlavi
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#10 to #1 - sandniggatron
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this kills the plant
User avatar #14 to #10 - idanlavi
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last time i remember plans don't have lungs
User avatar #23 to #14 - doomfish
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seriously though, the amount of energy taken by the plant to hinge closed is hard to replace with out carnivorous intake, Ive heard 3 false closes in a day can kill it.
#68 to #23 - Bruceman
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Yea I got one when I was younger, poked all it's mouths cause it was cool it died
#21 to #14 - anon id: 96d421be
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things can kill these plants if left alone and the plant cant digest it.
User avatar #35 - melonman
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In reality, many vegetarians don't eat meant not because they think its "murder" or "wrong", but as protest to the meat industry in America, which is pretty ****** up and abusive right now. (See Food Inc. or Super Size Me)
#188 to #35 - anon id: ca471a97
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Super Size ME isn't a reliable source, it's been disproven in multiple ways
User avatar #163 to #35 - magtheicelander
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that is very true i have seen food inc and it is horrible how the food industry works over in america
User avatar #164 to #35 - thedeathaudition
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I do not wanna be that guy but the people they featured in Food inc were a small group. Say Tyson owns 300 different chicken facilities, odds are one of them are going to be below standards.
#15 - EmulateSnes
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#34 - kameken
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This comment section
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User avatar #126 - sciencexplain
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These "plants" don't think vegetarians are wrong. I'll put it simply for you:

The venus fly trap plant eats flies because it needs to. Unlike humans, the plant species hasn't undergone a rate of evolution like homosapiens, so they have not yet learned to adapt to other foods. They are limited with movement, so have less possibilities for food, whereas homosapiens can move and catch their food by pursuing it and waiting, but fly traps can only wait. Therefore, they have no choice of their food, and only eat whatever they can attract best. They eat the flies from convenience and because it is part of their adaptation.

Humans can be vegetarians because they have evolved to be able to live on a purely non-meat diet without dying. Our evolution process allows this, because we evolved at a rate that doesn't compare to any other organism on Earth. We have regulated and controlled environments to the point where we can control everything. The plants do what they must to get by and what is easiest according to their abilities and appearance, but humans have developed such a control that they can choose how they eat and what they eat. The plants don't "think vegetarians are wrong", the plants are just trying to live on what they can get.
#134 to #126 - glycogen
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Our rapid evolution happened as a symbiosis between humans and fruit.

leftinthedark.org.uk/

The most nutrient dense food on earth , that contains glucose and fructose, the substance our brains run on.

Humans are a frugivorous primate.
www.scribd.com/doc/228620267/Frugivore-of-the-Month-2010-Human-Beings
User avatar #147 to #134 - sciencexplain
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Oh god, the guy who wrote the foreword has the same last name as me....

And no, humans are omnivorous beings that have control over their dietary preferences and choices. They can choose to be vegetarian, primarily carnivorous, frugivorous, they can be whatever they choose. You can't tell a human they are a frugivorous primate, because they can easily choose not to be. Weightlifters and bodybuilders choose to be primarily carnivorous to supplement themselves with the need proteins for muscle mass development, vegetarians choose to abstain from eating meat for moral reasons or to protest the meat industry, etc. The list goes on. The fact of the matter is, humans are not a fixated dietary preference. They have control over their diets and food choices.

Referring to your sources, Left In The Dark writes of a theory and is not scientifically proven, only proposed. Therefore, you cannot say that whatever is found in it is absolutely true, but only used to structure a hypothetical statement with no conclusive terms. Your scribd source has 3 editors whom have no detailed qualifications to their names and upon reference checking, your authors are a no-show. That scribd article isn't worth **** and talks more of seed dispersal than anything else. I would have no reason to believe you anyways, seeing as all you do is go around and bitch about anything concerning eating meat like it was your god forsaken duty to be a total cunt.
User avatar #150 to #147 - glycogen
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Yeah there is no evidence in recorded history of humans being frugivores.

There is evidence of war, rape, genocide, infanticide, witch hunting, virgin sacrifice, disease and famine.

All consequences of removing humans from the symbiotic relationship with fruit and natural habitat in the tropics.

Very simple. Fruit is the only food on earth that is attractive in its unaltered state.

Nothing else is. It is our only preferred source of food. If we eat something else out of starvation. It does not change the fact.


We are clearly not omnivores.
www.adaptt.org/Mills%20The%20Comparative%20Anatomy%20of%20Eating1.pdf
User avatar #154 to #150 - sciencexplain
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Your parents must have dropped you on your head.

Witch hunting? The Salem witch incident was presumed to be a result of acid in the drinking water. Not a consequence of not having fruit, but poor location only. Entirely possible in other habitats.

Sacrifices, war, genocide and infanticide? Potential results of religion, all due to the lack of human knowledge of their own planet and their choice to believe in a god. Tropical humans could have believed in a god too. Diseases can occur anywhere, simply due to the development of the bacteria or virus that causes it, and how it spreads by utilising other organisms. The tropics aren't exempt from disease, and famine could occur there if the fruit-bearing plants were destroyed.

None of those things are a result of a symbiotic relationship with fruit. Humans DO have a symbiotic relationship with plants and certain aspects of agriculture, but unless you can tell me the exact specifics with reliable sources, I have no reason to believe you.

Now, your source there is **** right from the get-go. The author, Milton. R. Mills, has not officially published a single available to purchase document. His job as a Doctor of Medicine is not to study humans in relation to other organisms, that is the job of a biologist. Secondly, all he has done is compare the traits of humans (not all of those traits are correct) to animals, simply looking at the correlation between features. Correlation =/= Causation, you should know that much. He hasn't proved anything, all he has done is said "a lot of human features which were obtained from homosapiens from long long ago have not changed, therefore they are not omnivores". That's all ******** in itself. We don't change features because we no longer need to. We are omnivores because we eat what we choose, that's it. You can't contest that. He can't find proper evidence to support his point, so he's looked at hereditary traits. Keep up.
#155 to #154 - glycogen
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spoken like someone whose veins are constricted with arachadonic acid.

You can think what you want.

The decline of humanity started when we left the garden of eden.

Stopped eating fruit, ended the bio-chemical communication. Complex hormonal relationship and permanent psychedelic state we occupied.

Human brain has been shrinking for 200 thousand years. Dont forget it.
User avatar #157 to #155 - sciencexplain
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Who on earth uses biased sites for their sources? And youtube videos? SERIOUSLY? It's like some stubborn kid who's only 12 years old and some creepy old pervert handed him some leaflet on the side of the road and now he thinks he's the "God of Knowledge". You couldn't even tell me the exact specifics of the bio-chemical communication you think we had.
User avatar #161 to #157 - glycogen
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You are probably unhealthy.

www.pcrm.org/clinical/publications/
User avatar #166 to #161 - sciencexplain
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I know I'm not healthy. I'm not healthy because I don't have enough money to buy highly nutritional food and be able to purchase a gym membership to utilise features like pools, classes and the gym. You practically lose your argument when you choose to attack a person for their personal traits instead of trying to prove them wrong.
User avatar #192 to #166 - inquisition
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THANK YOU

this guy said that I smell
User avatar #167 to #166 - glycogen
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Did you ignore all the science I provided?

Bananas are very cheap and are a highly nutritious food.

Rice and potatoes are very economical and low in fat.

Greens are cheap.


www.drmcdougall.com/health/shopping/books/starch-solution/
User avatar #169 to #167 - sciencexplain
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I don't know where you live, but it is not cheap where I live. I would be paying pounds for kilograms where I live, it's ridiculous. I know what is healthy, I know what is cheap, and the two never work alongside each other in terms of marketing and business.
User avatar #171 to #169 - glycogen
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Rice, potatoes, corn.

Lettuce.

Bananas and dates are both calorie dense fruits.

User avatar #175 to #171 - sciencexplain
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I'm not sure what you don't understand here. Health food here is expensively priced. Anything remotely nutritional for us is taxed and expensive.
User avatar #176 to #175 - glycogen
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Are you suggesting that rice, potatoes and bananas are out of your price range?

What are you eating that could possibly be cheaper?
User avatar #177 to #176 - sciencexplain
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Any foods that are frozen and are priced really cheap. I'm not "suggesting" that those foods are out of my price range, I'm telling you they are. I'm a Uni student working two jobs just to get by. I can't afford the luxuries of life. Do you know how ******* expensive potatoes can be in the UK?
User avatar #179 to #177 - glycogen
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I dont know where specifically you live. I do have friends in London with similar circumstances. They buy fruit on special and get stuff like rice and potatoes in bulk from markets or ask produce managers for deals.

Rice is incredibly economical in most countries it works out to be a dollar a kilo.
User avatar #180 to #179 - sciencexplain
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Rice is alright, but my digestive system doesn't exactly co-operate with them without having some nasty reactions. Uni campus rooms aren't that large, so I hardly have any space to store the foods, but I have considered rice and carb foods that are cheap as staples, if my body were to like them.
User avatar #182 to #180 - glycogen
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My friends youtube channel, she is the smartest girl I have ever met in my life.

www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-weSAzPkHxH4bZW_SxRA
User avatar #183 to #180 - glycogen
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I am going to bed, if you leave any more messages I will respond tomorrow.
User avatar #181 to #180 - glycogen
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Do you drink at least 3 litres of water a day?

Foods rich in carbohydrates demand more water be consumed.

To store glycogen and for the fibre content.
User avatar #184 to #181 - sciencexplain
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I drink 2 liters minimum, that's my one rule. I keep a 2L filled bottle with me throughout the day.
User avatar #218 to #184 - glycogen
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Dont love onions personally haha

for crunch I will usually go to shredded lettuce , finely diced cucumber or bell pepper

also like to add some fresh tomatoes into the sauce when I can for the juiciness

Actually that reminds me, presoaking the cut up vegetables in lemon/lime juice can be really nice...

User avatar #219 to #218 - sciencexplain
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Love onions and pepper, but I don't like the texture of tomato or cucumber. I'll eat it if I can hardly feel the texture in my mouth, but I can't eat tomatoes or cucumber on its own. Might do pre-soaking, just to give the zest, since I miss mango & lime chicken marinade.
User avatar #216 to #184 - glycogen
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Tomato sauce with pasta is classic. Low sodium is best.

I love adding some coconut sugar, a squeeze of lemon and a pinch of chili into my tomato sauce... plus watever herbs.

With rice u can cook it in a low sodium veggie stock, use a sweet chili sauce, tomato sauce, make a bit of a curry out of steamed root vegetables and almond milk.... chopped cucumber and tomato spread throughout with lime and black pepper .... or mix ketchup and mustard together...



User avatar #217 to #216 - sciencexplain
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That sounds ******* delicious. I'm gonna have to try that at some point. I'll probably use a chicken or beef stock if I can, because I prefer the meat taste to the vegetable stock, but I can adjust accordingly. Do you not put onion with yours? Cause I love a nice passata sauce with chopped onions for an extra crunch, or else the soft pasta gets too mundane for me. There's also that crunch from pepper if you want, too.
User avatar #214 to #184 - glycogen
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yeah thats cool you picked up on that, most people live in a state of constant dehydration.

dude i would suggest getting a rice cooker, with a steaming tray...

i got one for 25 dollars at target and it has been a huge help, the water evaporated and gets soaked into the rice so its really self contained. rice and veggies is such a good staple meal, can also cook pasta in it too
User avatar #215 to #214 - sciencexplain
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Ohh, I do love pasta. Just need a sauce, since all those carbs like rice and pasta are really, really dry. Any healthier sauces with a consistent and succulent taste? Or should I stick to passata?
User avatar #212 to #184 - glycogen
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Hey, I got banned for a while hhaha

Basically you want to to be well hydrated at all times. Increasing your water intake with exercise and when eating low water content meals.

3 litres is a good baseline. A minimum.

Cyclists use a guideline to ensure optimum hydration, they go by frequency and colour.

10-12 times a day.

Clear urine.

Is optimum.

This helps SO much with digestion and mental clarity.

The number one cause of daytime fatigue is dehydration.



User avatar #213 to #212 - sciencexplain
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Trust me, that's the one thing I focus on. I discovered early on in my Uni time that I had to drink to kill the hangovers, and the water just made me feel more content and clear. I drink well enough, it's the food dilemma from lack of finances.
User avatar #159 to #157 - glycogen
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William C. Roberts MD has five decades of experience in the field of cardiology, written over 1300 scientific publications, a dozen cardiology textbooks, and has been editor in chief of the American Journal of Cardiology for a quarter of a century. He is arguably the most highly regarded cardiologist in the world today.

In his 2008 editorial "The Cause of Atherosclerosis", published in the peer reviewed journal Nutrition in Clinical Practice, Roberts states that there is a single, sole cause to heart disease: cholesterol. If your total cholesterol is below 150 and LDL is below 70, you are essentially heart attack proof. What is the cause of high cholesterol? Saturated fat and animal products:

Atherosclerosis is easily produced in nonhuman
herbivores (eg, rabbits, monkeys) by feeding them
a high cholesterol (eg, egg yolks) or high saturated
fat (eg, animal fat) diet… And atherosclerosis was not produced in a
minority of rats fed these diets, it was produced in
100% of the animals! Indeed, atherosclerosis is one
of the easiest diseases to produce experimentally,
but the experimental animal must be an herbivore.
It is not possible to produce atherosclerosis in a
carnivore…"
He elaborates in an earlier editorial:
It is virtually impossible, for example, to produce atherosclerosis in a dog even when 100 grams of cholesterol and 120 grams of butter fat are added to its meat ration. (This amount of cholesterol
is approximately 200 times the average amount that human beings in the USA
eat each day!). (The American Journal of Cardiology, 1990, vol. 66,896.)

He then utterly annihilates the human omnivore myth in a single sentence. here it is:

***Because humans get atherosclerosis, and atherosclerosis
is a disease only of herbivores, humans also must be
herbivores.***
User avatar #168 to #159 - sciencexplain
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You're going to reference a source that goes against what you've already stated? "Humans also must be herbivores". If we are herbivores, our bodies technically would not be able to handle meat. But it can and it has for years and years and years. Meat was one of the prime nutritional sources for our bodies. Also, Atherosclerosis is not exclusive to herbivores. It occurs in humans, who are technical OMNIVORES. Therefore you've just posted a source that goes against what you've said.
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That is faulty logic if I have ever seen it.

Humans are not an anomaly. Just another herbivorous animal that gets heart disease.

We can processed food to, in fact I know some people that have sparsely eaten a piece of real food in their entire lives and they are not dead.

The human body is resilient, we can "digest" meat. That does not make us omnivores.

Just herbivores that have emergency mechanisms in place that let us eat flesh if we are starving to death. Ketosis.
User avatar #174 to #170 - sciencexplain
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Eating meat isn't a human "emergency mechanism". The organs we have are designed to do it repeatedly for as long as we live a regular lifespan. It's not like it will work for a few days.
User avatar #178 to #174 - glycogen
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You do understand that the precursor to activating the metabolic pathways gluconeogenesis and ketosis are the release of stress hormones... right?

Cortisol is released every time your body becomes glycogen depleted.

Cortisol is an immunological suppressant.

We just abuse these pathways.

User avatar #158 to #157 - glycogen
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1160 peer reviewed journals.....

The science should speak for itself.

And it is a recording of a speech that references clinical trials

You are just looking for reasons to ignore it.

I bet you eat meat, have lipemic blood and are unwilling to take responsibility for your actions.
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#186 to #19 - anon id: 744eac26
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did you learn all this **** from 4chan? You can do better than this. i believe in you. try a more interesting troll...
User avatar #65 to #19 - inquisition
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>not wanting to eat constantly
>anorexic

Do you even listen to yourself? I could say that you have a fatty mindset "eat everything but still stay slim!".

pls go shill elsewhere
User avatar #66 to #65 - glycogen
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I really fail to understand how a clinically proven diet that reverses numerous diseases is a fad. Or how eating as much as I want could be anything but positive.

It is hilarious though. You are eating body parts of animals and you cant eat too much because you will gain weight.
Good for you.

Enjoy being fat and dying of a stroke at the age of 55 from your lifestyle of moderation.

User avatar #67 to #66 - inquisition
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Enjoy being a skinny and uninteresting moron who's probably going to shun everyone he knows by forcing his lifestyle choices on them.
#69 to #67 - glycogen
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mmmmm thing is. You have physiological problems.

I dont.

You have corpses in your body. You restrict your calories.

Your blood is thick. Your brain does not have enough fuel.

You are developing disease. You are damaging your metabolism.
User avatar #70 to #69 - inquisition
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Wow, you actually don't think you have a psych problem. Admitting you have a problem is the first stage to resolving a problem, and you have some clear af problems m8.
#71 to #70 - glycogen
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My friends in this picture are all high carb vegans. The older couple just ran a marathon a day for 366 days around australia.

The guy on the left rode 568 kms in one day and 6500 kms in one month.

The girl on the right has a sub 20 minute 5 k time and eats more than you.

User avatar #72 to #71 - inquisition
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Impressive. So none of that would be possible for someone who eats animal products?

Oh wait, I forgot. Anyone who isn't a vegan will die at 55 of chronic heart failure, diabetes and depression after a quadruple bypass surgery.

Oh wait, that's ********.
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Janette cured her cancer on a vegan diet, then ran 42 kilometres a day for 366 days.

That would be impossible if she was eating meat. Because meat causes cancer and is low in carbohydrates.
User avatar #75 to #74 - inquisition
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That's got to be the least intelligent thing I've ever read.

Just go back to regurgitating "studies", at least your ******** looks more reputable then.
User avatar #76 to #75 - glycogen
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So an observable event and clinical trials are ********?

My mistake.


Keep eating corpses in moderation and living in a mental fog.
User avatar #77 to #76 - inquisition
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Nice 8 year old motivational language. Maybe if you say "muh corpses" enough you'll be clever.
#78 to #77 - glycogen
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You have corpses in your body.

I don't.
User avatar #79 to #78 - inquisition
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I think you need to say it a few more times, you're still sounding like a moron.
#80 to #79 - glycogen
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You are at risk of cancer and have decomposing flesh releasing toxins into your body
User avatar #81 to #80 - inquisition
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You are shilling pseudo-science over the internet.
#82 to #81 - glycogen
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A clinically proven diet that reverses heart disease. That is recommended by the American College of Cardiology. That I am telling people about.

It seems you are far in denial.
User avatar #83 to #82 - inquisition
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It might seem like that, but to most of the well read people in the world, you're in denial.
#85 to #83 - glycogen
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well read? You have no clue what you are talking about?

Everything I have said is objective and I have over 1000 clinical trials to back up what I am saying.

You are just repeatedly suggesting that it is pseudoscience, when it gets results in the real world.

Anyway, nothing more I can do.

Just remember you are never alone.................................

You have a corpse inside of you.
User avatar #86 to #85 - inquisition
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it's more fact, than suggestion

go tell people that physics doesn't matter

better yet, go tell them fairies exist and santy claus will come if they eat a kilogram of quinoa and rice every day
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Storing glycogen and fat oxidation from background carbohydrate catabolism. Does not defy the law of physics.

If that is your only argument........
User avatar #88 to #19 - inquisition
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"It is impossible to be healthy if you eat any animal products. The millions of people who live to old ages healthily who do eat animal products don't count."
User avatar #133 to #88 - crazyolitis
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He's a troll, mate. Don;t feed him anymore.
User avatar #135 to #133 - inquisition
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I gathered that.

He's upsetting himself now though and it's funny.
User avatar #143 to #133 - glycogen
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care to refute any claim I have made?
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Health would happen on an hour to hour basis. considering that one high fat meal from animal products impairs blood flow and causes inflammation. It truly is impossible.

www.nbcnews.com/id/14229538/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/just-one-high-fat-meal-can-be-bad-arteries/#.U9cAy_mSzT8



Your excuses are pathetic.
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It's amazing how much someone can research something, and STILL be ignorant.

I tip my ******* fedora to you bro.
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You have literally nothing to offer. No science or understanding.

You are just upset that I have pointed out that you are eating corpses and calorie restricting like a retard.
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Of course I am bro!

I'm totally mad, you thwarted me with your wit and understanding, all the information you gave is totally true, not warped or twisted whatsoever.

And hey, what does it matter if you make stuff up, you can just CLAIM it's true anyway!

You're quite the hero.
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It is clinical science.

In this case you are making wild claims.

If you want to be take seriously. You need to understand science and provide relevant case studies.

You actually have no idea what you are talking about. You are unhealthy and unethical. You have body odour and corpses in your body that cause it.

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"You have body odour"

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>"I want to be taken seriously"
>"You have body odour"

You are precious.
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I dont really get this act you are putting on. You are laughing at me, yet you have no scientific understanding and you are unhealthy.

I am providing you with information that could transform your life.
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Mate, you used "you smell bad" as an argument after talking about how you want to be taken seriously. That's funny as ****. No one will ever take you seriously, and I stopped taking you seriously after you said that calories in calories out doesn't matter.
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You have no evidence otherwise.

I have access to over 100 thousand science journals through my university while I am doing a doctorate.

Your body odour is just one of many symptoms that arises from having decaying flesh crawling through your digestive tract.
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Aside from the fact that I don't have body odour.

Sort yourself out lmao.
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What are you doing? I am educating someone and exposing witnesses to life changing information.

You are pretending to be amused, yet have no evidence to give and are being embarrassed.
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"You are being embarrassed"

Oh golly, have I disgraced myself to someone who used "you smell" as an argument?
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See, what are you doing? I have provided over 1100 clinical journals and now you are pretending like the sulfates leaking out of the corpse in your intestines is my only argument.......
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I didn't say it was an only argument, I said it was a moronic argument that makes you look like a retard. Which it does. You also bring emotion into your arguments which is a sign of a weak debater who wants to win over simpletons.

Don't worry, you'll get better at this eventually.
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You have a corpse calling your body a home. You are a discount graveyard.
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The corpse isn't calling my body anything.

The corpse is dead.
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taking a figurative phrase literally.

You are dumb and have a corpse inside you
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I have multiple corpses, actually.

btw you're not winning anyone over with the whole "your body is a graveyard" approach, it just makes you sound autistic.
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You obviously don't understand what autism is.

By the way, "corpse" refers to human remains as opposed to animal remains, gj personifying to be more emotive.
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corpse [kawrps] Show IPA
noun
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a dead body, usually of a human being.
2.
something no longer useful or viable: rusting corpses of old cars.
3.
Obsolete . a human or animal body, whether alive or dead.

The definition also includes non-human animals. Aside from that legal definitions don't change what something is.
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just mind your own ******* business please
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"Especially of a human being"

Again it doesn't specifically exclude animals. In fact the term is derived from the latin word corpus meaning literally body, a definition that includes non-human animals.

If you're going to be a corpse eating sociopath atleast don't try to sugarcoat it.
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I'm not sugarcoating anything you stupid prick.

For a fat ******* tranny you're not half judgemental. Now kindly **** off.
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You're trying to sugarcoat the fact that you eat corpses by conviently trying to change the name to make it sound less horrifying. The fact remains that you're eating a corpse because you're too lazy and irresponsible to take up a proper vegan diet.
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Are you seriously starting this again.

Taking advantage of a resource isn't lazy. Eating a varied diet isn't lazy. Doing exercise isn't lazy. You calling dead animals corpses is just an appeal to emotion anyway. I know what I'm eating is dead, it was once alive and now it is dead. Call it a corpse, carcass, body or w/e.

And lmao @ "proper vegan diet" as if it's your way or no way.
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It's not an appeal to emotion, if anything it's an appeal to reality, i'm calling it how it is.

Taking advantage of a sentient life in order to furfill your gluttony just because you feel like you can't take up a vegan diet even though most of your food is vegan anyway is lazy, it's irresponsible, and it's just looking for excuses.
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Excuses for what exactly? No one is ever going to feel the need to prove themselves to a whiny prick such as yourself, especially when you take it upon yourself to initiate arguments then call people out on being "lazy and irresponsible". You think the only reason that people eat meat is because they're lazy, you won't listen to anyone else. Do you seriously think anyone will take you seriously?

You sound just like a tumblr bitch, just go back to friendly and be a fake slut then whine about tfwnogf or something, Jesus.
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> "you're too lazy and irresponsible to take up a proper vegan diet."

Literally kill yourself, holy **** how can you be this dense?
People aren't automatically lazy and irresponsible for not sharing your hippie vegan lifestyle.
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"People aren't automatically lazy and irresponsible for not sharing your anti-slavery lifestyle"
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lmao you're retarded
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Great rebuttal there.
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There is simply nothing else to tell you
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It just shows that you have no proper arguments. There no logical way to justify the murder of sentient life.
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I don't need arguments to tell you what a dense retard you are.
Go suck off a beanstalk
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If you have no arguments then you have no logical reason to accuse me of that. I could call you a retard back but unless i have sufficient arguments to show that your arguments are retarded i would have no case.
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No arguments is better than ******** arguments spraying **** all over the place.

I like plants, you aren't allowed to eat them.
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Oh my mistake. carcass.

You have body parts inside you.

whatever.
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Saying "whatever" as if it invalidates the point.

Textbook ********.

Babby's first internet argument.
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I am walking away now.

Know that a plant based diet can save your life.

Goodbye.
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Diddums.
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this is some mad misinformation
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ik about the health risks about whatever types of diet, it's just that you can't say that any diet will be fundamentally better for weight loss, seeing as that's determined by how much you eat, rather than what you eat.

You could get fat eating plants, arguably it's more difficult because of calorie density but it's misinformation to say "eating a plant based diet will make you skinny".
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It seems you lack a fundamental understanding of how the body processes different macro-nutrients.

Calories in/calories out is irelevant.

Carbohydrates are stored as glycogen (sugar in your muscles)

Fat is stored as adipose tissue (body fat)

You lose weight eating unlimited calories on a low fat vegan diet.

Fat burns in the flame of carbohydrates. sports science 101
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>Calories in/calories out is irelevant
>thermodynamics is irrelevant
>"lose weight eating unlimited calories"

Holy **** you are actually for real. Tell me where these unlimited calories disappear to.
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Turning sugars into fats is a process called de novo lipogenesis. Pigs and cows use this process to convert carbohydrates from grains and grasses into calorie-dense fats. That’s what makes them so appealing as a food source. Bees do it too, converting honey (simple carbohydrate) into wax (fatty acids and alcohols).
We humans, on the other hand, are very inefficient at converting carbohydrate to fat; we don’t do it under normal conditions. (The cost for this conversion is 30 percent of the calories consumed.) Subjects overfed large amounts of simple sugars under experimental laboratory conditions, however, will convert a small amount of carbohydrate to fat. For example, both trim and obese women fed 50 percent more calories than they usually ate in a day, along with an extra 3 ½ ounces (135 grams) of refined sugar, produced less than 4 grams of fat daily (less than 1/8 ounce). That’s just 36 extra calories stored as fat per day. You’d have to overeat all of those extra calories and table sugar every day for nearly 4 months just to gain 1 pound of extra body fat.
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xcerpts from THE STARCH SOLUTION by Dr. John McDougall
With all those efficient calories, you would think that starches would promote excess weight gain, but they don’t. That’s because your body efficiently regulates the use of the carbohydrates you get from starch. Even if you consume them in excess, the body will burn them off as heat and energy rather than store much of them as fat.
Worldwide, populations with the highest consumption of starch are the most trim and fit.
Excess Starch Does Not Turn To Body Fat
A widely held myth holds that the sugars in starches are readily converted into fat, which is then stored visibly in our abdomen, hips and buttocks. If you read the public research you will see that there is no disagreement about this whatsoever among scientists, and that they say that this is incorrect! After eating, we break down the complex carbohydrates in starchy foods into simple sugars. These sugars are absorbed into the bloodstream, where they are transported to trillions of cells throughout the body for energy. If you eat more carbohydrates than your body needs, you’ll store up to 2 pounds of it invisibly in the muscles and liver in the form of glycogen. If you eat more carbohydrate than you can use (as your daily energy) and store (as glycogen), you’ll burn the remainder off as body heat and through physical movement other than sports, such as walking to work, typing, yard work and fidgeting.
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Really? The law of thermodynamics has nothing to do with your body's storage mechanisms. No matter is lost.

Its not a black hole. Its called glycogen.

Humans can store 15 grams of carbohydrates per kilo of bodyweight in the liver and muscles.

For an 80 kilogram man this can be more than 4000 calories of carbs, stored directly as sugar. No conversion to fat.

And no I am not retarded just because you are unfamiliar with this.

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This is pseudo-intellectual as ****. You're literally saying that the laws of physics don't apply to our bodies. That is exactly what you're saying. I don't need to read the rest of these fad diet vegan books to know that you're full of ****.

Go post some content then delete all the comments or something, jfc
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You mean data based on clinical trials by world leading doctors?

How does it have anything to do with breaking the laws of physics.

It is really simple. Sugar is stored as glycogen in your muscles.

Fat is stored as body fat.

Like what is so hard to understand about that . It could not be more straight forward. It is in the first chapter of every physiology book ever.

The fat you eat is the fat you wear. Eat less fat, be less fat.

The body uses carbs to fuel exercise, eat lots of carbs so u have energy to exercise.


Did you read something you dont want to hear? are you suffering on a low carb diet or calorie restricting?

The leanest cultures on earth get the majority of their calories from carbs. Kenya, Thailand, China, Uganda etc....
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Now I'll explain my points in easy bullet points for you.

Energy from carbs is stored as glycogen in muscles.

When glycogen stores are full, and energy expenditure is BELOW energy intake, the carbs will have to be stored as something!

Literally calories in, calories out.

I'm not sure what you're finding so difficult to understand.
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Fat burns in the flame of carbohydrates.

This means that you need a sufficient supply of glucose (carbs) in your body to sustain exercise and once you are depleted of carbohydrates (blood glucose, stored glycogen), any intensity of exercise will become difficult. Even though typical 'fat burning exercise' is lower intensity (fats are metabolised greatly at lower (up to moderate) intensities of exercise), you still need blood glucose to keep exercise pace without fatigue. So in other words, without glucose, you have restricted chances of utilising fats because glycogen and glucose depletion are what cause enhanced local and whole-body symptoms of fatigue during exercise.

A: Burning Fat in a "carbohydrate flame" is more than just maintaining the BGL and Glycogen stores to maintain exertion over longer periods of time. This statement acknowledges that fact that there are common pathways that both fat and carbohydrate substrates are oxidised and that fat metabolism is dependent on a background level of carbohydrate catabolism.

If you consider the Citric acid cycle, many of the intermediates are products of glucose catabolism; eg oxaloacetate. Both carbohydrates and fats must be broken down to acetyle CoA before they enter this stage of aerobic metabolism. If you deprive your body of adequate carbohydrates many of the intermediates of the Citric acid cycle will be "borrowed" in synthesise glucose (gluconeogenesis) to maintain BGL's. If you remove the intermediates that are required for oxidation of fat there will be a reduced capacity to burn fat.

Moral of the story: low carbohydrate diets will ultimately fail in maintaining lasting weight loss because your ability to burn fats is blunted because fat oxidation is dependent on background carbohydrate catabolism.
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For a 80 kg man it would take 6000 calories to exceed glycogen storage capacity.

Then an insulin mediated dietary thermogenesis is activated. Which burns up the excess as body heat.

To get the body to store fat from carbs. To active DNL you need to eat way past glycogen storage capacity.

The thing is, I said unlimited carbs, not infinite. So unless you are force feeding yourself until it is properly painful. It is impossible to exceed glycogen stores.

So yeah, you can eat as much as you want a day, with no calorie restriction and lose weight.

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www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16164885


Why are you so angry? have you been starving yourself or is your blood thick with animal fat?
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You sound brainwashed as **** mate, I'm coming across about as angry as you, and I haven't taken it upon myself to thumb down everything you say.

Calling someone angry doesn't make them angry.

Furthermore, down there you've acknowledged that weight loss and gain IS determined by energy in and out, which is all I wanted to say, now please stop talking, because you're embarrassing yourself.
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I really do wonder what you are eating.

All high carb vegans are skinny long term.

It really is that simple.

If you want to make a point that you can gain 5 grams of fat eating 7000 calories of potatoes a day and claim that as a victory that is up to you.

Whole plant foods are very satiating so it really is hard to eat that much unless you are running marathons.

Oh well. What can I say. The science is straight forward. The fat you eat is the fat you wear.

I am 6 foot, 67 kgs, eat 4500-5000 calories a day and am the happiest I have ever been. Storing glycogen keeps your blood sugar stable.

Have fun with "thermodynamics", keep calorie restricting and be miserable.

www.youtube.com/durianriders
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AHAHAHAH YOU ACTUALLY LINKED HIS YOUTUBE CHANNEL

oh man lmao, stay brainwashed mate
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I dont understand. It is basic physiology.

I am lean eating as much as I want.

Is there a better alternative?
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Oh yea, one more thing.

Supposed there's 6000 calories stored as glycogen. That energy isn't going anywhere unless you burn it. If your bodyweight maintenance is, say 2000 kcal, and you eat 2500 kcal, with ALREADY saturated glycogen stored, that excess 500 kcal will have to be stored as fat, there's no other place to store it (apart from muscle, if it's used to repair, but that's different). It doesn't matter if that 500 kcal is from fat or carbs, it will get stored as fat, there's nowhere else for it because your glycogen stores are full. Those 6000 calories don't just disappear every morning mate.
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What diet do you eat?

You really have no idea.

Do you know how hard it is to saturate your glycogen stores?

even then if you do, your body will naturally regulate your hunger drive with hormones, and you will easily become active as it is hard to sit around with that much energy.

So as I said before, you can eat unlimited calories from carbs and lose weight.
Because there is no limit on how much you want to eat. You wont want to eat that much if you actually do manage to saturate your glycogen stores.

You really have nfi.

www.youtube.com/Freelea Sexy girl that eats 3500 calories a day.
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I eat an omnivorous diet of moderation, I don't buy into fad diets or people such as yourself trying to shill ********.

You've basically ignored what I said anyway, so I'll ignore what you said.

And **** me, you linked freelee too, you're amazing.
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hahahahaha you fool. You eat animal products that make you fat, and have to restrict calories to prevent weight gain. Oh what a miserable existence. Not to mention your blood being clogged with fat. Oh boy.

The whole foods plant based diet is used to reverse heart disease and diabetes. Dr Neal Barnard and Dr Caldwell Esselstyn

It was determined to be the most disease preventative diet by the worlds largest epidemiological study. The China Study.

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So you've ignored it AGAIN to give me an ad hominem? You're a funny guy mate.

And yes, my existence is miserable, how do I survive without eating a ******** of carbs constantly. Damn, it sure is horrible to not eat all the time.
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Oh so you have an anorexic mindset and are afraid to eat big meals of low calorie density foods. That explains it.

You are destroying your health and metabolism.
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However that may be eating meat isn't something from culture or tradition. When cooking meat was discovered, it gave our race a jump start as it fueled the human body better than anything else.

Your argument is almost completely based on fitness - HOWEVER, the majority of people with meat based diets are actually in good shape or form, otherwise you would see obese/generally unfit people more than fit people. Anything poll related would generally propaganda, as it's unclear who they chose. This goes for meat eaters, as well.

Also, if you didn't know, glycogen is a important thing for survival, as long as you don't be a fat ****. The human body uses this stored glycogen if the body isn't taking in enough resources, which could happen to anyone in several situations. The nutrients from meat also help growth, generally making the human body a fitter body.

I appreciate your opinion and I see where your coming from, but going vegan isn't a perfect solution; it's something that can also damage your body.
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The human brain has been shrinking for 200 thousand years. This coincides with the time since we have started to eat meat regularly.

Meat when cooked produces heterocylcic amines and polyaromatic hydrocarbons, known carcinogens and DNA mutagens.

A whole food plant based diet lacks no vitamins or minerals and is used to reverse numerous diseases.
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It is just a really simple observation.

This is 1160 peer reviewed clinical trials implicating animal products and low carb diets as a risk factor for cancer, diabetes, heart disease, rheumatoid arthritis and osteoporosis. www.atkinsexposed.com

Here is more clinical science in the links throughout the articles.

nutritionfacts.org/topics/meat/
nutritionfacts.org/topics/milk/
nutritionfacts.org/topics/eggs/
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Some people can't eat meat for medical reasons
not their fault
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I don't **** on your beliefs, please don't **** on mine.
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I am vegan..
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I know. check out his speech

www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6U00LMmC4
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Being a vegetarian has been proven to be a healthier alternative to normal dieting. There is less obesity, cancer, and a longer life expectancy for vegetarians than people who aren't vegetarians. So, the only people who think that vegetarians are wrong, are people who haven't bothered to actually learn anything about it.

To be honest, it makes you sound like an American meme. "NOOO MUH BACONS!"
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longer life expectancy, huh?
hitler was a vegetarian and died when he was 56 years old
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Cause he killed himself
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because he probably realized how ******* stupid it was for him to become so.
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Hitler was not vegetarian. That is an urban legend.
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The only reason you need to eat meat: It tastes good.
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yeah and then 5 seconds after the taste has faded away your blood thickens and your arteries harden, and then you have piece of flesh decomposing in you as it takes 2 days to leave your body.

www.nbcnews.com/id/14229538/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/just-one-high-fat-meal-can-be-bad-arteries/#.U9jYWvmSzT9
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Go eat your ****** rabbit food and let people eat what they want you ******* cunt.
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Fruit, rice, potatoes, pasta yeah that stuff sucks....
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Meat tastes better than all that ****.
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Nothing tastes as good as being healthy feels.

5 second taste for 2 days of constipation, body odour, mental fog, impaired blood flow and low energy levels. Not a good deal.

I would rather eat mangoes or a rice dish and feel great.
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Why are all vegans preachy faggots? Does seeing other people eating good food while you have to eat **** make you butt-flustered or something?
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Why did people try to end slavery?

Because they see injustice and take responsibility for the society they live in.

User avatar #106 to #105 - thewaronbeingcool
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The animals we eat were bred to be eaten. It is their purpose.

******* weren't bred to be slaves.
#111 to #106 - glycogen
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That does not make it ethical.

It takes 16 kilograms of grain and 10 thousand litres of water to produce 1 kilogram of beef.

If you don't care about animals, then how about the 20 thousand children that starve to death daily because their food is being fed to livestock?
User avatar #113 to #111 - thewaronbeingcool
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Nah I don't give a ****. The world's overpopulated enough as it is, so who gives a **** if some useless, little **** in the 3rd world who'd never amount to anything anyway dies?
#115 to #113 - glycogen
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Ok. Humans are actually compassionate by nature. so you are living in denial and experiencing discomfort as a result.

User avatar #118 to #115 - thewaronbeingcool
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No.

If they were white I'd probably give a ****, but I honestly do not give a **** about some stupid niglet starving somewhere. Blame those countless charities trying to get money by shoving pictures of starving ******* in your face. You get desensitized to it and stop giving a ****.

And that picture is dumb. Most animals can provide multiple meals.
#121 to #118 - glycogen
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Ok so you think infanticide is acceptable if they are black.

Again. humans are by nature compassionate.

you cannot think that without suffering.
User avatar #127 to #121 - thewaronbeingcool
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Nope. I'm sick of useless ******* and muslims swarming into my country and ruining it, so the idea of some of them dying doesn't effect me in the slightest.
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Ill just pretend that you meant that.

What about the white people dying of heart disease and cancer.

Over 60% of deaths in western countries are diet related.
User avatar #145 to #129 - thewaronbeingcool
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My taxes go to plenty of things I dislike (foreign aid). I suck it up and deal with it.

That's your opinion, and you're a ******* vegan anyway so who cares what you think about meat?

And meat substitutes? lol

The future of meat is cloned flesh, not some processed mushroom that tastes like a mockery of the real thing.
User avatar #132 to #129 - thewaronbeingcool
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It's their choice to make.

Most will choose to eat meat, because it tastes nicer than the vegan equivalent.
#136 to #132 - glycogen
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It is costing you money as a taxpayer. Heart attacks cost 250 grand to treat.

Meat does not taste nice. It is always covered in plants to make it palatable.

I eat mostly fruit and whole foods, so i would rarely ever have it,, but mock meats have come a long way, and I have had some that were pretty ******* good. Bill gates has actually invested a few hundred mil into them... He is quoted as sayin the future of meat is vegan.



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User avatar #13 to #4 - holycrapimacupcake
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Less protein, less muscle growth, bones become weaker due to a lack of calcium, also bacon.
#57 to #13 - anon id: dee7304f
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Patrick Baboumian.

Holds world strength records.

Vegan.

Go back to the middle ages with that tired propaganda.
User avatar #209 to #57 - holycrapimacupcake
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My food eats your food.
#40 to #13 - anon id: f7b76b3c
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There are successful vegan bodybuilders let alone vegetarian, you can get enough protein and calcium from plant foods.