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what's bad about this?
i know nothing about dry ice other than that it makes mist
i know nothing about dry ice other than that it makes mist
Yeah nothing really, other than he should get some fresh air inside. When I would bring ice cream home from school, they would pack it in dry ice and I would have fun with it. I did the same thing a few times and it didn't hurt anything. Although, it was pretty cool when you press it against the sink's surface, it makes a howling noise.
He is displacing the oxygen in the room with co2 but it should be fine as long as he has some sort of ventilation/ airflow.
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ainise (01/10/2016) [-]
Fires kill very few people caught in house fires. Yes, sure, fire is bad but it's the smoke that kills. Between the smoke and the raging fire DEVOURING all of the oxygen in the air, you have a recipe for disaster.
That kid's stunt for even 20 or 30 seconds could have ended up with him in serious risk.
CO2 is very dangerous, and not JUST for the asphyxiation risks. It changes the PH Balance in your blood. It can lead to Nerve Damage, Hypercapnia, Stroke, Brain Damage not to mention the hell it reaks on all of your organs until your blood has filtered out all of the acid.
Low surges of CO2 are perfectly fine, but 2 Deep breaths of that air could have easily sent him into a downward spiral he may have never returned from.
Always be safe when working with any dangerous materials, dry ice included.
That kid's stunt for even 20 or 30 seconds could have ended up with him in serious risk.
CO2 is very dangerous, and not JUST for the asphyxiation risks. It changes the PH Balance in your blood. It can lead to Nerve Damage, Hypercapnia, Stroke, Brain Damage not to mention the hell it reaks on all of your organs until your blood has filtered out all of the acid.
Low surges of CO2 are perfectly fine, but 2 Deep breaths of that air could have easily sent him into a downward spiral he may have never returned from.
Always be safe when working with any dangerous materials, dry ice included.
That is severely exaggerated, you're correct in the dangers of smoke that is due to the presence of the much more dangerous carbon MONOxide. You are also correct in that "dry ice" is the solid form of CO2 being carbon DIoxide, which can be dangerous and cause asphyxia in large doses as well as headaches, dizzyness, and vomiting. However CO2 is NONTOXIC and he could very well stay in that environment for some time without having any permanent health risks.
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ainise (01/10/2016) [-]
www.blm.gov/style/medialib/blm/wy/information/NEPA/cfodocs/howell.Par.2800.File.dat/25apxC.pdf
Yeah, No. At just 5% CO2 levels, you're already effecting the heart. At 30%, Coma, Convulsions and Death begin to show at around 5 minutes. That cloud he's laying in? At least 30%.
CO2 is NOT non-toxic. It's the very definition of Toxic. Exposure to CO2 at a high enough %(Like flooding your floor with it and lying in it) can, and will, kill you.
Low dosages can cause headaches, dizziness and vomiting. High dosages can cause respiratory failure, coma, brain damage, breathlessness, increased heart rate & blood pressure, distortions, migraines, impaired hearing, loss of consciousness, convulsions and death. Not due to asphyxiation - due to acidosis.
Yeah, No. At just 5% CO2 levels, you're already effecting the heart. At 30%, Coma, Convulsions and Death begin to show at around 5 minutes. That cloud he's laying in? At least 30%.
CO2 is NOT non-toxic. It's the very definition of Toxic. Exposure to CO2 at a high enough %(Like flooding your floor with it and lying in it) can, and will, kill you.
Low dosages can cause headaches, dizziness and vomiting. High dosages can cause respiratory failure, coma, brain damage, breathlessness, increased heart rate & blood pressure, distortions, migraines, impaired hearing, loss of consciousness, convulsions and death. Not due to asphyxiation - due to acidosis.
It sublimates into CO2 gas, which could make you go unconscious and die if you breathe too much in. So laying down in it is a dumb thing to do.
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iderpedintofj (01/10/2016) [-]
CO2 is carbon dioxide, not carbon monoxide (which is CO)
Your body triggers a panic reflex when you have to much CO2 in your blood. Suffocating that way is extremely painful, so if he did start to suffocate by laying down, he'd immediately scramble to get up into a more oxygen rich environment.
Carbon monoxide on the other hand is an industrial waste gas (also comes from car exhaust). It displaces oxygen in your blood, but doesn't trigger the panic reflex. It's a painless way to go, which is why CO detectors are a thing (and important to have if your house has any natural gas appliances like a gas furnace).
Your body triggers a panic reflex when you have to much CO2 in your blood. Suffocating that way is extremely painful, so if he did start to suffocate by laying down, he'd immediately scramble to get up into a more oxygen rich environment.
Carbon monoxide on the other hand is an industrial waste gas (also comes from car exhaust). It displaces oxygen in your blood, but doesn't trigger the panic reflex. It's a painless way to go, which is why CO detectors are a thing (and important to have if your house has any natural gas appliances like a gas furnace).
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limberlarry (01/10/2016) [-]
There is no such thing as CO2 poisoning so goolge assumed it was a typo. CO2 is non toxic, but it displaces the air so it will suffocate you if you breathe only it, CO is a poison that binds to the hemoglobin in your blood meaning your blood can;t carry oxygen and you die
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ainise (01/10/2016) [-]
CO2 poisoning is called Hypercapnia or CO2 Retention. At just 6 minutes, 7% CO2 in the air can cause mental confusion and dyspnea, potentially keeping you from escaping your scenario. This can onset much faster at higher %s. The fumes he's inhaling is probably around 60%.
CO2 is, by definition, a toxin to your system. It's one your system lives with, but at a cellular level it is toxic.( - www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16499405 ) Once you break 10%, long term exposure can lead to severe negative responses from your body. At 30%, at only about 5 minutes, it can send you into a coma and if not treated, even take your life. The cause of death is due to a PH balance issue in your blood stream and your kidney/s basically doing its job.
Just some readings, if you care enough:
inspectapedia.com/hazmat/Carbon_Dioxide_Hazards.php
www.blm.gov/style/medialib/blm/wy/information/NEPA/cfodocs/howell.Par.2800.File.dat/25apxC.pdf
CO2 is not a safe material. Always be careful with any material you work with.
CO2 is, by definition, a toxin to your system. It's one your system lives with, but at a cellular level it is toxic.( - www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16499405 ) Once you break 10%, long term exposure can lead to severe negative responses from your body. At 30%, at only about 5 minutes, it can send you into a coma and if not treated, even take your life. The cause of death is due to a PH balance issue in your blood stream and your kidney/s basically doing its job.
Just some readings, if you care enough:
inspectapedia.com/hazmat/Carbon_Dioxide_Hazards.php
www.blm.gov/style/medialib/blm/wy/information/NEPA/cfodocs/howell.Par.2800.File.dat/25apxC.pdf
CO2 is not a safe material. Always be careful with any material you work with.
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iderpedintofj (01/10/2016) [-]
I wasn't trying to be a dick, just trying to get you on the right track. No need to get all defensive.
It's frozen carbon dioxide, and it displaces the oxygen. If you don't know what that means, basically it "pushes out" the oxygen from an area, in this case the floor, and replaces it with itself, making the floor lethal within a minute or 2.
Nitrogen is probably the "best" displacing gas. In a room it will push out ALL oxygen, it's insanely dangerous
Nitrogen is probably the "best" displacing gas. In a room it will push out ALL oxygen, it's insanely dangerous
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madvulture (01/10/2016) [-]
Carbon monoxide is pretty ugly too! It's 200 times easier for the lungs to absorb and you dont feel that you are running out of air like you do with CO2. Also it absorbes oxygen that is already in the blood.
thats not how carbon monoxide works. It doesn't absorb oxygen thats already in blood, it just competitively and irreversibly binds hemoglobin more readily than oxygen causing less oxygen to be taken in
mixing dry ice with water is known for making that kind of fog in special effects but you can'y breath it so having it in such a closed environment is incredibly dangerous.
Had a friend who was a chef, he was keeping dry ice open in a walk in freezer for a special event. To get to the freezer he had to walk through a long attached cooler. When he opened the door to the freezer a wall of co2 hit him and he lost his balance and fell down. Someone found him unconcious in the cooler, when he walked in he left the outer door open and it let fresh air. If he had closed the door he probably would have died.
This is why you always store dry ice in a smaller container or freezer never a walk-in.
This is why you always store dry ice in a smaller container or freezer never a walk-in.
you can breath it provided you are also breathing oxygen, it is essentially what humans exhale after all. what i am saying is the heavier gasses sink to the floor and he was lying down in it completely submerged. he must have been holding his breath or he could have passed out from oxygen deprivation and died.
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iderpedintofj (01/10/2016) [-]
He wouldn't have passed out. Too much CO2 is extremely painful.
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myjunk [OP](01/09/2016) [-]
It's frozen carbon dioxide.
At atmospheric pressure it sublimates to form the gas state when it heats up.
Since it's heavier than air it tends to sink down (especially in confined spaces with low air circulation) and when you inhale it, it replaces the oxygen in your lungs.
So just lay down, take a deep breath and relax. Forever.
At atmospheric pressure it sublimates to form the gas state when it heats up.
Since it's heavier than air it tends to sink down (especially in confined spaces with low air circulation) and when you inhale it, it replaces the oxygen in your lungs.
So just lay down, take a deep breath and relax. Forever.
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peasantlaborer (01/09/2016) [-]
Him laying down in carbon dioxide is the equivalent of placing a plastic bag on your head. Stupid, but not abruptly deadly. Typically, humans have a strong reflex to get fresh air. Plus carbon dioxide doesn't take the place of oxygen. It can't. Carbon monoxide, on the other hand...
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myjunk [OP](01/09/2016) [-]
It doesn't replace it in the hemoglobin (in the bloodstream) but you'd still be breathing a gas that contains no oxygen.
Yes, the body has some reserves but and an increased CO2 in the bloodstream s0hould trigger a strong urge to breathe. If you're smart you'll get up then - if you don't get it and keep down you might get into trouble.
With the plastic bag at first you still have normal air and the only CO2 is the one you produce over time. When you take a deep breath of almost pure CO2 the effect is more instant and much stronger. Not abruptly deadly but at the point you loose consciousnes and are alone (which he gladly isn't) you might be done for
Yes, the body has some reserves but and an increased CO2 in the bloodstream s0hould trigger a strong urge to breathe. If you're smart you'll get up then - if you don't get it and keep down you might get into trouble.
With the plastic bag at first you still have normal air and the only CO2 is the one you produce over time. When you take a deep breath of almost pure CO2 the effect is more instant and much stronger. Not abruptly deadly but at the point you loose consciousnes and are alone (which he gladly isn't) you might be done for
Just make sure you never touch the dry ice with your bare hands
its at -109.3F or -78.5C
its at -109.3F or -78.5C
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thatginger (01/10/2016) [-]
ive held dry ice before, in my chemistry class... you can hold it for a few seconds as long as you keep it moving, thanks to the leidenfrost effect
I have a similar scar where someone burned me with a piece of metal (they did this thing where they pressed metal 'nails' (can't remember the word, the stuff you use to pin papers to soft surfaces) through an eraser, rubbed it on a desk surface so it would get super hot, then pressed it against someone.
The part on my hand where they did this 5 years ago is still significantly darker than the rest.
The part on my hand where they did this 5 years ago is still significantly darker than the rest.
Carbon dioxide is a trace chemical in the Earth's atmosphere. It was historically in concentrations of about 260 parts per million but today is about 400 parts per million (0.04%) due to burning of fossil fuels. When you get lots of carbon dioxide in an enclosed space it becomes poisonous, and even slightly elevated concentrations have been shown to impair cognitive abilities. Dry ice is 100% frozen carbon dioxide.
I have seen this webm before, being the uber lurker that I am, and wondered if that might present a health problem doing something like this but no one seemed to criticize the guy's intelligence until this OP. Maybe it is dangerous, I am not sure.
I have seen this webm before, being the uber lurker that I am, and wondered if that might present a health problem doing something like this but no one seemed to criticize the guy's intelligence until this OP. Maybe it is dangerous, I am not sure.
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BloodyTurds (01/10/2016) [-]
Actually, though it is dangerous, because of suffocation. Its not exactly harmful, because all it does is take the physical space of much needed oxygen... The problem is 2 fold, firstly from a laying position, going unconscious means you are unable to stand up, and get out of the fog. and secondly the oxygen in a single breath of air, can actually last quite a while.. so by replacing that oxygen, your actually causing yourself to suffocate faster than your instincts believe possible (so instead of that feeling you get when you cant hold your breath, you simply pass out) But once it has left your lungs.. there is no lasting damage..
Carbon Monoxide on the other hand, binds directly to the oxygen receptors in your lungs.. so even if you successfully get to fresh air, you could still potentially die from lack of oxygen... (basically you'll just feel really tired.. and may or may not wake up)
Carbon Monoxide on the other hand, binds directly to the oxygen receptors in your lungs.. so even if you successfully get to fresh air, you could still potentially die from lack of oxygen... (basically you'll just feel really tired.. and may or may not wake up)
you can touch it in a similar way to touching embers. just like... kinda bounce it around your hands.
and you can definitely touch dry ice with thin gloves just not for over like 20 seconds i guess
and you can definitely touch dry ice with thin gloves just not for over like 20 seconds i guess