the best description of darth maul going only by what is seen in the movies and not the EU at all is that darth maul is a design not a character. he has no structure or context other than bad guy after the good guys. sure he looks ******* bad ass im not denying that but he has no lines shows up kills liam neeson then gets chopped in half and its over
the best description of darth maul 3/4 of the Prequels characters going only by what is seen in the movies and not the EU at all is that darth maul 3/4 of the Prequels characters is a design not a character.
very true. like i saw them as a kid and i thought "awe cool light saber fights and big battles and flips and **** woo" and then when i re-watched them i realized how bad the acting and plot details were.
After he killed Qui-Gon, he should've almost killed Obi-Wan too, and then Obi-Wan escaped at the last moment. Then in AOTC, Yoda fights Maul instead of Dooku. Haven't thought what'll happen beyond that point though.
Darth Maul is forced to flee from Yoda and he returns in Episode III and duels Anakin and Obi Wan again. Obi Wan is defeated by Maul and Anakin gets revenge for him by killing him. It would make more sense than Palpatine having two sith apprentices at the same time.
palpatine doesn't have two apprentices at the same time...as soon as maul "Died" turns out he survived through pure hatred palpatine seduced Dooku with the knowledge that the jedi council did nothing to prevent qui-gon's death, even though he told him the jedi knew they were dealing with a sith.
no, Dooku was a jedi before he became a sith, they even say that in attack of the clones. he left the order after qui-gon's death, then palpatine seduced him with footage of qui-gon's death and he told him that the jedi knew it was a sith or some **** .
Oh yeah that's true. Unfortunately, since Obi Wan doesn't have any sort of augmentations that we could see in the original trilogy, we can't really have Maul injure him too much.
That just goes to show that the best bad guy is one we are told nothing about. We are left to fill in the blanks of our own impressions of what he would be like and so we tend to make him the best we can think him to be.
You couldn't really hear it, but when he first talks it's at the end of the first season.
In the second season they change his voice and it's significantly better. youtu.be/xTnpqjJae-g?t=599
Jedi aren't invincible. The incredibly skilled can overcome even Jedi.
Not to mention Grievous's fear tactics and generally intimidating features throw them off balance. It's hard to fight well and stay focused on the Force when you're scared ******** .
I'm not denying Grievous shouldn't be a well-trained duelist, but he shouldn't be so OP that he can take on 5 Jedi Masters (and at least 2 of them were council members) with practically no effort, and fear isn't something a Jedi tends to have, not to mention being scared ******** .
Again, they aren't invincible.
And they aren't beyond fear.
Not to mention this was after who knows how long or big of a fight between the clones and droids. They'd been trying to fight him for quite some time it seemed.
God. The episode where it shows the Gunship flying in and the clones just readying up was the best in the series if you ask me. A good second is the jousting one between Obi-Wan and that bounty Hunter.
Darth Maul is probably the most overrated character. Even more than Boba Fett. He had very few lines in Ep I and died with very short screen time. He had no character. He was just the "bad guy". He kills and gets killed. Nothing special. The only reason he lived is because fans were bitching about not having enough of him so through the power of money, they revived him because apparently you can survive being cut in half. To me, he always died right then and there and that's the end of it. Most EU is ******** . I love EU, but so much of it was so ridiculous. At least with Boba Fett it was relatively believable that he survived, but Maul was cut in half and fell down a huge hole. The impact alone would have killed him if he somehow survived. By making him survive really kills the point of a saber duel if you can survive such a devastating wound. I'm okay with him having back story, but god damn, he died on Naboo. He went the way of Boba Fett, but much worse. Fett only got more **** because he sold the most toys. Maul was the badass looking guy and sold the most merchandise in Ep I so he magically survived. Don't give me that ******** that he lived through hate. That is a ******** excuse and everyone knows it. Hatred ad rage can make Sith survive some serious **** , but what happened with Maul was too damaging. By making him survive it really makes fighting and beating a Sith really pointless if they can survive just about anything as long as they are mad.
I'd say you should read his origin miniseries of comics before bashing Darth Maul so much, they really flesh him out and give him a cool origin story and he comes across as a well-written character. I get discounting him based on just the movie alone, but don't assume he's only ever liked because of Episode 1, he has other stuff.
Also, it's not too hard to believe he survived. Lightsabers cauterize wounds and he was cut pretty low on the waist, not to mention it's not a big stretch to assume he has different organ placement.
That's partially what I am saying. I'm fine with him having a backstory, but because fanboys cried so much he was brought back to life through the magic of merchandising and somehow survived a killing blow.
He was cut in half and fell down a massive pit. If you don't die from that then how else do you kill a Sith? If they can survive extreme **** like that, it's pretty much pointless to fight them. With that logic, Vader shouldn't be dead either. He only had his hand(a mechanical one mind you) cut off and then electrocuted. That is somehow more lethal than being chopped in half and falling down a massive pit? That pit where Maul fell was so deep you couldn't even see the bottom. The impact alone would have splattered him all over the ground. I get that the force can make you survive a lot, but that is way too much. To me he is dead and stays dead.
" The only reason he lived is because fans were bitching about not having enough of him so through the power of money, they revived him because apparently you can survive being cut in half. To me, he always died right then and there and that's the end of it. Most EU is ******** . I love EU, but so much of it was so ridiculous."
You do realize he survived in both EU AND Clone Wars right? He ended up with robotic legs in both. I also never even mentioned Clone Wars so you're kind of pulling it out of your ass. I never even implied I was talking about Clone Wars(I do think that was BS too, but that's another story). The whole rant was talking about EU. Nothing even mentioned Clone Wars. The only thing that could be taken as Clone Wars was that he survived, but he survived in the EU too.
I do realize that, but his EU appearances were little more than glorified cameos, and given that many of the time he "returned" in it amounted to magic or holograms, I assumed you defined his appearance in Clone Wars as EU as it is the vastly more famous example of him returning with prosthetic legs
He still survived in the EU and had robotic legs. That's what I was talking about. I was talking about EU so you should assume I was talking about EU Maul rather than a different version.
agreed. never really read any of the books, but i played that rpg type video game with his face on the cover. never got to him, but the little i saw of him freaked me out
Darth Maul was a male Dathomirian Zabrak Sith Lord who lived during the waning years of the Galactic Republic. Maul was born to Mother Talzin and raised as a Nightbrother on Dathomir, before being taken by Darth Sidious as his apprentice. Maul learned the art of lightsaber combat and took on a dual-bladed lightsaber or "Saber Staff", becoming a weapon to be used against the Jedi Order.
During the Trade Federation's invasion of Naboo, which Palpatine orchestrated as part of the Sith plot to take over the Republic and destroy the Jedi Order, Maul was dispatched to locate Queen Padmé Amidala, who had escaped Federation custody and whose capture was vital to the invasion plans, and tracked her down on Tatooine. There, he fought Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn, revealing the Sith to the Jedi for the first time in a millennium. After the queen and the Jedi returned to Naboo to fight the invasion, Maul once again faced Jinn, as well as Obi-Wan Kenobi, in combat. The Sith Lord killed Jinn, but Kenobi was able to defeat Maul, slicing him in half. Maul then fell down a seemingly endless reactor shaft.
I only think Grievous looked cool, he had 4 arms and lightsabers and could not handle a guy with just 1 saber.
Maul on the other hand fought 2 jedi at the same handling them so he could kill one, got cocky and lost to the other when he thought he already won, Jango was more awesome than Boba imo.
Then again I prefer the prequels over the originals, episode 1 was the first I ever saw and then 4-5-6-2-3, 7 awaiting atm.
Yeah I saw it, though I'm having a hard time taking the fight canon due to how over the top it was with his moments that made no sense, and the fact most of those children where padawans, Grievous is not weak but he dont really scream out biggest badass either as soon as he's paired up against Jedi, as said he did not just get defeated by Obi Wan, he got owned big time.
Darth Maul did not have a character. He had a lightsaber.
People who blindly think that A). That fight at the end of Episode I wasn't **** and B). He was cool without even knowing about any of the EU get on my nerves